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#1169542 - 03/19/07 09:18 AM DETAILING CHIT CHAT (formerly PC 7424 thread)
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As time has gone on, this thread has become a center of some great information. With that being said, it is now a sticky. If you make a new post re: the PC7424 after reading this thread, you're a moron. Anyways, stick to this thread for a detailing discussion. THIS IS THE PLACE FOR DETAILING TALK!

I have noticed time and time again you recommend this buffer. I am set on purchasing one when the sun finally breaks and is out for good.

However I have been notcing ALOT of different accessories when it comes to pads/bonnets/etc.

Any links or info on what I should purchase, or make sure it comes w/?

Thanks


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#1171449 - 03/19/07 06:59 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Make sure it comes with a pad that allows you to affix polishing pads with Velcro backing. Griot's Garage sells all that stuff for the PC machines.
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#1171647 - 03/19/07 07:45 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: CORONA.ESQ]
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Yes, absolutely get the velcro backing pad, that makes it exceptionally easier to change pads.

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#1172428 - 03/19/07 11:07 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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I'm going to be trying these out soon for mine:

http://www.autogeek.net/bf200.html
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#1184459 - 03/23/07 10:01 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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I am going to be getting one of these soon..

I will start gather up the waxes/etc....lol..

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#1204169 - 03/29/07 01:12 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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As for the pads, how long do they last?

How do you all clean them?

I can't afford to be buying pads all the time..

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#1204200 - 03/29/07 01:19 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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They should last a long time. Just be careful because the velcro will peel off the back if you rip it off too fast from the backing plate.

Theyre easy to clean, just a bucket of warm water and whatever that pad cleaner shit is.
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#1204246 - 03/29/07 01:27 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Originally Posted By: PurduinaSi
They should last a long time. Just be careful because the velcro will peel off the back if you rip it off too fast from the backing plate.

Theyre easy to clean, just a bucket of warm water and whatever that pad cleaner shit is.



Ok, cool.

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#1210529 - 03/31/07 01:19 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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pinch the pads under running water. Works great.

Now, the pads have to be dry, or they'll start forming mold. Ask me how I know ;\)

You don't want to wring out the pads, especially the velcro-backed pads, because the backing will start to separate. Go outside, FAR AWAY FROM YOUR CLEAN CAR, put the pad back on the buffer at low speed, and just spin the water out. IT only takes a minute or so and the pad will be completely dry, but it will fling water all over the place.
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#1213590 - 04/01/07 10:25 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: CORONA.ESQ]
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I have a lambswool pad on my orbital craftman buffer I have now...I have done that w/

I wanted something I can put the wax on w/that would have a little more "cutting" power...

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#1324357 - 05/03/07 10:53 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Best price on the unit is on eBay..

170 w/pads and such?

Good kill, or is there a better deal to be had elsewhere??

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#1327617 - 05/04/07 01:09 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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I paid $150 from Griot's Garage, but that was probably a decade ago.

I actually just ordered a replacement velcro backing pad for my P/C, as the original rubber is dry and badly cracked.

Other than some polish "fling" stains and other signs of use, my P/C is still running as good as new. Well worth the money. I've probably polished various cars over a hundred times with it.
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#1328140 - 05/04/07 09:22 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: CORONA.ESQ]
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There is no question it will last..I have a portal cable sander...thing runs like a champ for many yrs..

I figure the pads/etc would be the wear items..

Just looking for a good reputable/reasonable place to purchase said unit...

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#1329618 - 05/04/07 03:18 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Heh- if you wanna help a bud out- go to http://www.detailingfaq.blogspot.com and click on the Amazon link through there to buy it. Comes with a pad and I believe its only 110.00 there.

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#1361365 - 05/07/07 09:30 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Originally Posted By: 2000CivicStud
Heh- if you wanna help a bud out- go to http://www.detailingfaq.blogspot.com and click on the Amazon link through there to buy it. Comes with a pad and I believe its only 110.00 there.

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Sounds decent enough...however what all do I need to come w/it..

Waxes/Extra pads..want to get it all @ once..

??

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I looked @ the link...read about the waxes...but didn't see anything about the pads I should purchase as well.

Links/stores/etc?



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#1362171 - 05/07/07 12:45 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Hit me on AIM Adam, mgpsicnc.

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#1363315 - 05/07/07 03:15 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Hit me on AIM Adam, mgpsicnc.

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Will do...

Thanks.
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#1364856 - 05/07/07 10:18 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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No problem.

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#1432587 - 05/14/07 02:20 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Btw..I am ready to buy this..what pads should I look into buying for my first attempts?

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#1432762 - 05/14/07 02:56 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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I like the Griot's Garage orange polishing pads. Get a 3-pack for $30.
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#1432782 - 05/14/07 02:58 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: CORONA.ESQ]
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Originally Posted By: SVTNate
I like the Griot's Garage orange polishing pads. Get a 3-pack for $30.



I saw this...

Good buy?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porter-Ca...sspagenameZWDVW

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#1432805 - 05/14/07 03:02 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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I am looking for a guide..

Step 1 use x pad
Step 2 use x pad
Step 3 ....
etc...

Basically so I know what pads to use...and in what order.

Thanks
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#1434476 - 05/14/07 08:55 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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I'm in a similar boat as SiAdam.
I've kinda narrowed down my selection to 3 different kits.

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/son-daspol-kit.html

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/son-sfxpol-kit.html

http://www.autogeek.net/hk7424.html


Opinions?
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#1434617 - 05/14/07 09:18 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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I think kit #3 is your best bet as it comes with the most stuff. With that being said, Adam- the thing you need to know is you begin with a cutting pad (whether it be light, medium, or heavy cut), and then just work your way back down, going to a polishing pad, and then a finishing pad. For my pads, I go yellow, white, black, and I *think* I got my kit off of autopia somewhere, its been awhile though.

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Also, feel free to post these in the detailing thread!
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#1434692 - 05/14/07 09:40 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Originally Posted By: SiAdam
Originally Posted By: SVTNate
I like the Griot's Garage orange polishing pads. Get a 3-pack for $30.



I saw this...

Good buy?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porter-Ca...sspagenameZWDVW



Is this a good buy??

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#1437859 - 05/15/07 08:33 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Meh, its alright. It doesnt come with a finishing pad or a heavy cutting pad. I would get one that comes with one pad for the following:

Heavy Cutting
Medium Cutting
Light Cutting
Finishing

With that being said, I think youd be better off buying one of the above kits.

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#1438021 - 05/15/07 09:15 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Originally Posted By: 2000CivicStud
Meh, its alright. It doesnt come with a finishing pad or a heavy cutting pad. I would get one that comes with one pad for the following:

Heavy Cutting
Medium Cutting
Light Cutting
Finishing

With that being said, I think youd be better off buying one of the above kits.

-Matt



Like #3?

I am seriously thinking about pulling the trigger today...just afraid it won't be here by friday...where is that place located?

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#1438151 - 05/15/07 09:47 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Originally Posted By: 2000CivicStud
Meh, its alright. It doesnt come with a finishing pad or a heavy cutting pad. I would get one that comes with one pad for the following:

Heavy Cutting
Medium Cutting
Light Cutting
Finishing

With that being said, I think youd be better off buying one of the above kits.

-Matt



Like #3?

I am seriously thinking about pulling the trigger today...just afraid it won't be here by friday...where is that place located?




lol...I called them..They are located in Fl.

She said it should be here by Friday..so well see...??

I am thinking it over and will prolly order it soon..

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#1438215 - 05/15/07 10:02 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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It's on the way

http://www.autogeek.net/hk7424.html

See what happens..

Wish me luck...lol.

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#1438564 - 05/15/07 11:26 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Good luck! Dont hesitate to hit me on AIM for any pointers.

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#1438743 - 05/15/07 12:12 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Good luck! Dont hesitate to hit me on AIM for any pointers.

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I've already got some..lol..

I watched a vid regarding it...I'll post the link in a min.

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#1442644 - 05/16/07 08:30 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Light Swirl Removal

Intermediate Swirl Removal


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#1442856 - 05/16/07 09:45 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Cool, thanks!

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#1443478 - 05/16/07 12:07 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Cool, thanks!

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No problemo. They are nice vids...figured they would help others see how the equipment is used correctly.lol.

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#1446523 - 05/17/07 12:17 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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You said you go w/this order Yellow, White & Black.

I have
White 6.5 inch Polishing Foam Pads
Less dense foam formula for the application of waxes, micro-fine polishes and sealants. This pad has very light cutting power so its perfect for pre-wax cleaners.

Gray 6.5 Inch Finishing Foam Pads
Composition is firm enough to withstand added pressure during final finishing to remove buffer swirls. It has no cut and will apply thin, even coats of waxes, sealants, and glazes.

Blue 6.5 Inch Finessing Foam Pad
Flat pad has soft composition for applying glaze, finishing polish, sealants, and liquid waxes. Flat pad provides full contact with paint surface to minimize the pressure applied by the user.

Orange Low Profile Foam pads
The 5.5 inch pad will remove light to moderate scratches and swirls and light oxidation. Firm, high density foam for scratch and defect removal. Use this pad with polishes and swirl removers. It’s an all around pad that will work on most light to moderate imperfections.


Ok, w/all that out of the way..what order should I use them ?

Also, w/what combination of waxes should I use. I have a sealer liquid wax that a local detailer uses, called liquid Glass I believe..

Everything else I will need to purchase locally. What other waxes/cleaners/polishes/glazes/sealers/etc do I need.

I am going to wash/clay before I start...got a big show on Sat to attend.

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#1447329 - 05/17/07 10:07 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Orange
White
Grey
Blue

Thats the order if you're doing a swirl remover, polish, sealant, and carnauba. However, if you only have one wax, there is going to be no benefit to using all those pads. You really need to get a dedicated swirl remover, polish, sealant, and carnauba for it to work out best.

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#1448365 - 05/17/07 01:57 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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I know, thats what I am looking forward to getting tonight..

I have meguirs swirl x, I think thats the name...is that a good oxidizer remover/swirl marks?

Then what polish?

Wax?

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#1448774 - 05/17/07 03:24 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Go to autogeek.net and order Poorboy's SSR2.5 to use with your Orange pad, Poorboy's SSR1 to use with your white pad, Poorboy's Exp Sealant to use with your black pad, and Mother's Carnauba to use with your blue pad.

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#1449589 - 05/17/07 07:03 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Go to autogeek.net and order Poorboy's SSR2.5 to use with your Orange pad, Poorboy's SSR1 to use with your white pad, Poorboy's Exp Sealant to use with your black pad, and Mother's Carnauba to use with your blue pad.

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I wish I would have known, as I need to do this tomorrow..

I made some trips around town to get some waxes..

I'll post up what I got..

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#1451431 - 05/18/07 09:06 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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I picked up what waxes I could locally. Best I could find..a few I had prior.

90% of the stuff is bran new..here is a complete list w/picture. Assuming the Porter arrives today...

Here is what I plan to do, maybe someone could double check my list/order/products to make sure I am on the right track. I am no n3wb to waxing/claying...just new to a buffer & multi-step process.



2 bucket washing (dishsoap) w/new sponge.
Dry w/absorber.
50/50 mix of water/rubbing alcohol use Mothers Clay Bar.
Wipe down car again w/the 50/50 mix to get all the residue off.
Orange Pad & Turtles Polishing Compound or Meguirs Scratch X ??
Wipe off w/Microfiber towel.
White Pad & Meguirs Professional Series Show Car Glaze.
Wipe off w/Microfiber towel.
Black Pad & Liquid Glass.
Wipe off w/Microfiber towel.
Blue Pad & Meguirs NXT Tech Wax.
Buff out w/orangepad covered w/microber bonnet.

Clean Windows/Tires/Interior?

Well??

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#1452194 - 05/18/07 12:09 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Use scratch x with the orange pad first, its better to try a combo that will be too weak than one that will be too strong. Also, when you clay- just use the soapy water from your car as it will be a better lubricant. Just do the liquid glass OR the NXT, they are the same thing, and Id recommend the NXT personally. The one product Ill STRONGLY recommend which you can get locally is Mother's Carnauba Wax. It smells like cherries, so you'll know you got the right thing. Its a good, thick Carnauba which has a good run-off factor too it (how well water runs off), and even after weeks, a quick mist with a quik detailer makes it look good as new. If you have any questions, you know where to ask...

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#1452347 - 05/18/07 12:46 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Ok,I'll try the scratch X first..

As for the Mothers, I couldn't find it..

Looked @ Walmart, Auto Zone and Advanced Auto...

No luck, so I am going to stop @ a detailing place after work..but no promises..

If not, whats my next best option?

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#1456454 - 05/19/07 10:23 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Meguiar's Yellow Carnauba isn't half bad. Sorry I didn't respond earlier, our internet was out at home. :-(

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#1456571 - 05/19/07 11:55 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Looks like you have a decent head start. Have either of you tried the Sonus brand? I just picked up their swirl remover and I love it. I'm using similar pads, 6.5" with a backing plate.

I usually start off with the Meg's professional light/medium/heavy cut cleaner, then the Sonus SFX2 or Meg's #9 Swirl remover (if needed). I'll follow up with the Meg's #7 glaze and a lighter pad. After that, I'll seal it with a nice carnuba wax. Meg's #26 works good, but for nice cars, I'll use Klasse (lasts long) and then a finishing coat of P21S. I actually REALLY REALLY REALLY recommend that stuff, it's well worth the money for a finishing wax. Here's a link to some of the products:

The pads I use
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/son-sfxpad-kit.html

P21S
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/p21-127.html

Sonus Brand (made by autopia)
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/index.html

They are a new favorite site of mine, as they carry Sonus, Meguiar's, Klasse, P21S, Stoner, 303 Products, Clay Magic, and even sell Porter Cables! The customer service was also good...
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Everything you recommended is good. Thanks for the insight! I might make a sticky of where to buy detailing stuff for beginner's!
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#1456985 - 05/19/07 03:49 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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The thing I would do is dump the dish soap... You don't want to use that. At the least pick up a cheap auto soap. I Like the NXT Soap... YOu can also use that for the bar, but I prefer to use the Quick Detailer.
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#1458503 - 05/20/07 12:47 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 04silvrSI]
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I disagree. He is wanting to do a full detail from scratch. Odds are, he has built up swirled wax over the years by doing it by hand, and if he in fact wants to start entirely over, the dish soap will remove all of the old build-up. So for people doing an all new detail for the first time, I recommend using dish soap; but for someone who cleans their car on a regular basis, you're right, use regular car wash, (but not ones with wax in them as they streak sometimes).

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#1458781 - 05/20/07 02:59 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Sorry, but I have to disagree. This is a myth spread by zaino that you have to remove wax for a better shine... Or that wax builds in layers over the years. There are mineral spirits in wax that allow it to be soft and spreadable on to the finish. These spirits also strip the wax, so there really isn't a "build up of wax." plus it serves no useful purpose other then working great to remove the wax from the applicator.
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#1458807 - 05/20/07 03:06 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 04silvrSI]
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I see what you're saying, but what it all comes down to is preference. I never use it anymore, but if I all along was detailing the wrong way, and I wanted to start with a clean slate, I would use dish soap. The fact of the matter is that it wont HURT your car's paint. Granted, it isn't as soft as legit "car wash", but if he wants to use it this one time, would be the best time. From here on out he needs to use an actual car wash.

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#1460908 - 05/21/07 08:34 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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I'm w/you..

Dish soap for the first wash of the season helps get all the road grime/grease off.

The paint actually looks dull when you are done..so I know it cleans it all off.

I got the thing done..

Probably spent 9 hrs waxing and all..

Car not only looks amazing, but feels soooooo smooth. Everyone I showed was absolutly amazed...

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#1461165 - 05/21/07 10:05 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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TAKE PICTURES!!!!!!!!!

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#1461530 - 05/21/07 11:50 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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TAKE PICTURES!!!!!!!!!

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I snapped a few that day, but the sun was so bright they all washed out..

So..I am going to get some more here soon..car is in the garage..so it's not gonna get dirty..lol.

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#1461636 - 05/21/07 12:11 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Here are some more helpful detailing tips..

http://autogeek.net/detailingtips.html

I will be buying all my stuff from here....great place..

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#1461796 - 05/21/07 12:48 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Yea man, I LOVE Autogeek.net, it is a great website.

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#1462166 - 05/21/07 02:10 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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yup, autogeek and autopia FTMFW
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#1463667 - 05/21/07 08:18 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Yea man, I LOVE Autogeek.net, it is a great website.

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Here are a few pics of mine using Pinnicle Souvern Paste Wax. This stuff is just awesome. Makes the paint look so wet and reflective. The pics don't do it justice.


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#1472664 - 05/24/07 08:29 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 04silvrSI]
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I snapped a quick pic after playing tennis the other night...stopped for some italian ice...

I'll get some more to post up...



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#1472988 - 05/24/07 10:35 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Lookin good! Get a direct-sunlight picture so we can all see how you really did!

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#1472989 - 05/24/07 10:35 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Lookin good! Get a direct-sunlight picture so we can all see how you really did!

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#1473390 - 05/24/07 12:16 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Lookin good! Get a direct-sunlight picture so we can all see how you really did!

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Ha ha...I was cheatin..lol..

The hood/top/bumpers/sides are all mint. The top of the trunk & wing has what looks like acid rain etched into the clear...

I figure some wet sanding should relieve that..then re-apply waxes/sealants.

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#1473461 - 05/24/07 12:36 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Rub vinegar on it with a sponge. Itll come right off. :-)

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#1473688 - 05/24/07 01:45 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Rub vinegar on it with a sponge. Itll come right off. :-)

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??

It looks to me it's IN the clear...I can't explain it...although I have already buffed it all out....will take me some time to get back down to the paint again \:\(
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#1474164 - 05/24/07 03:21 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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For real, try rubbing distilled vinegar on it. It works a lot on etch marks caused by hard water and acid rain.

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#1474210 - 05/24/07 03:36 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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For real, try rubbing distilled vinegar on it. It works a lot on etch marks caused by hard water and acid rain.

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Hmm..interesting..I'll be trying that out asap.

Thanks for the tips..I'll report back..

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#1474377 - 05/24/07 04:19 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Please do. I won't be online again till later on tonight though.

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#1475158 - 05/24/07 08:01 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Please do. I won't be online again till later on tonight though.

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Prolly won't be until this weekend...could I use a microfiber towel vs a sponge...?

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#1475441 - 05/24/07 09:47 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Id try and use a spong if you can, or a cotton towel. Then use a MF towel to wipe off with. That WILL remove all of your previous wax, polish, etc.

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#1475443 - 05/24/07 09:48 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Or a sponge. lol

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#1475697 - 05/24/07 11:01 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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So you are saying the vinegar will only remove the previous wax...not the etching...I still have to wetsand it...correct?

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#1476049 - 05/25/07 02:08 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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No, the vinegar will remove the etching too, but the wax at the same time, aka you're gonna have to re-wax that shizznick!
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#1476380 - 05/25/07 08:29 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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No, the vinegar will remove the etching too, but the wax at the same time, aka you're gonna have to re-wax that shizznick!


Oh, ok. Not a problem. It's only the trunk and top of the wing..

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#1484393 - 05/28/07 01:47 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Lookin good! Get a direct-sunlight picture so we can all see how you really did!

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This was mid afternoon...



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#1484685 - 05/28/07 03:27 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Looks good. But still waiting on that direct sunlight... Hehe

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#1484959 - 05/28/07 05:59 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Looks good. But still waiting on that direct sunlight... Hehe

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It was direct....mid afternoon...

Car just looks that good..lol..

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#1485295 - 05/28/07 08:14 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Im talking close up of the paint, with the sun in the reflection.

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But yea, it does look good!
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#1517100 - 06/07/07 01:30 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Autopia is having a father's day sale on a 7424 kit. (20% off)
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/son-sfxpol-kit.html

Should I jump on this kit of go ahead and get the auto geek one?

What ya think Matt?

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#1517404 - 06/07/07 07:56 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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Id hit that deal. Not a bad price at all. Those are good pads too. Now just get yourself some some good polishes and waxes and youll be good to go. (read this thread for my suggestions).

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#1517571 - 06/07/07 09:26 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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Autopia is having a father's day sale on a 7424 kit. (20% off)
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/son-sfxpol-kit.html

Should I jump on this kit of go ahead and get the auto geek one?

What ya think Matt?

Thanks!


The autogeek kit I purchased came w/more pads/cleaner/conditioner and was 199.

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#1517655 - 06/07/07 10:01 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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with 20% off, that would be $170
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#1518124 - 06/07/07 12:08 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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with 20% off, that would be $170



True true. Still though w/the extra pads,sprays/etc for 20 bucks more autogeek is the better buy..

IMHO though...

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#1518509 - 06/07/07 01:53 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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I've had both and I personally like the autopia pads better, and you only need 3.
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#1518630 - 06/07/07 02:16 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Autopia also is having a clearance on Sonus pads, as well as a few other products, incase you wanted to check them out...
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#1518740 - 06/07/07 02:56 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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#1519572 - 06/07/07 07:39 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Yeah that too. \:\)
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#1523289 - 06/08/07 08:04 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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Ok I went ahead and ordered Autopia's kit today... Now I need to figure out what I should buy/use for detailing. I'll be using the kit on 3 cars: My Firehawk (Black) and Civic (Milano Red) as well as my grandparent's Escalade. (Pearl white)

Right now the detailing products I have are:
Meg's Deep Crystal System Paint Cleaner
Meg's Deep Crystal System Polish
Meg's NXT Liquid wax
Meg's Gold Class car wash

I know I need a Carnuba wax and was going to order the PS1 wax from autopia, since I have a 15% off coupon.
Anything else I need in terms of products?

Cheers

EDIT: I also have some Zaino Polish (z2) and swirl remover (z5) lying around the house that I forgot about.
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#1528237 - 06/10/07 07:21 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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No, the vinegar will remove the etching too, but the wax at the same time, aka you're gonna have to re-wax that shizznick!


Oh, ok. Not a problem. It's only the trunk and top of the wing..



I tried that on my neighbors truck...only a yr or 2 old ford 150...paint is in great shape..except on the hood..it has the same etching like my trunk & wing..

We both rubbed forever trying to get it off...NOTHING. Used distilled vinager and a microfiber towl...

\:\(
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#1530782 - 06/11/07 01:25 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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More posts.

I am going to order the following from autogeek.net

Poorboys SSR3
Poorboys SSR2.5
Poorboys SSR1

Also looking for a good carnuba to follow up the sealant.

So far I should have the following:
Poorboy Polish
Meg. Prof. Glaze
Meg. NXT Sealant.
Carnuba??

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#1530900 - 06/11/07 01:50 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Check out PS1 wax from autopia. I think Purdina was the one who posted about it. I just ordered some.

My process will be something like:
Sonus Paintwork Cleanser
Zaino Polish (Z2)
Meg's NXT wax
PS1 Carnuba


When I start detailing I'll make sure to take before and after pics for reference.

Adam, if you can let me know how you like the Poorboys stuff, I may try some of that in the future.
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#1531589 - 06/11/07 04:30 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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http://autogeek.net/klashiggloss.html

Then...

http://autogeek.net/p2concarwax.html
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#1534253 - 06/12/07 11:24 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Oh, and for 10% off at Autogeek, use the coupon code "clubmember"

But just keep that between us \:\)
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#1561846 - 06/20/07 01:28 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Well I finally got around to trying out my Porter Cable on the trunk of my Civic and came to the conclusion that I need a heavier swirl remover. lol

I initially used Sonus Paintwork Cleanser about 2-3 times on the area, trying to get rid of most of the swirls (which it did) Now all that's left are the deeper ones. \:\(

I followed it up with some NXT then a light coat of P21S, just to see how it turns out.

Any recomendations of a swirl remover? I have some Zaino Z5 swirl remover, but I'm sure sure if it is aggressive enough to handle the swirls. Matt mentioned Poor Boys 2.5 (I might even go with 3) What ya think Purdina?....Anyone?...Bueller?

EDIT: No pics, left the digi cam in SD. \:\( Cell Phone pics FTL
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#1561917 - 06/20/07 02:45 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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I've detailed 5 black cars in the past week. For each car, I've used Meguairs professional Heavy cut cleaner ( here ) followed with Sonus SFX-2 Swirl remover ( here ). A few of the cars were in horrible condition, and all 5 of them came out looking brand new. The finished results were amazing, and the owners were extremely satisfied (as was I). Unfortunately, since I dont have a camera, i dont have any pics, but I asked the owners to take a few, and hopefully i'll have some soon. Just be sure that if you use the heavy cut cleaner, that you follow up with a glaze, like the #3 ( here ), in order to bring the gloss back.


Edit: Let it be noted that you don't always need to use the heavy cut - i just use that because I'm detailing cars that most likely have never been detailed before and have many imperfections in the paint. There is also a medium and light cut cleaner that will also work well depending on the job. Also, meg's #7 (show car glaze) also works well. I'm still trying to figure out which i like better, 3 or 7.
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#1561936 - 06/20/07 03:17 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Well, my Civic is Milano Red, and looks like it's never really been detailed, other than car washes. \:\( So I need something that can give me a good base to start with.

I think I'll go pick up some medium cut cleaner tomorrow. I'm not sure if the Zaino (z5) is aggressive enough of a compound. I'd rather work my way up to a heavy than start there if I didn't need to. Like I said I used the Paintwork Cleanser which according to Autopia is a ultrafine compound.
Should I stick with the NXT as my glaze? I was thinking about picking up some Klasse all in one or the Klasse High Gloss sealant glaze in the future.
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#1562167 - 06/20/07 08:46 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Also, meg's #7 (show car glaze) also works well. I'm still trying to figure out which i like better, 3 or 7.


I absolutely HATE using Meg's #7. It seems like it is so much work to put that damned glaze onto the car, and take off is no easier. Mother's and Meguiar's are good at making consumer products, and they make them well. However, for the avid detailer, I have found that there are numerous other brands which Mothers and Megs cannot even compete with. I love my Poorboy's. The SSR2.5 is a VERY good swirl remover and can get almost all swirls out of dark colored (and light colored, obviously) cars. However, the SSR3 can get what the 2.5 cant, but it is VERY abrasive and WILL dull your paint. So, if you go with the SSR3, you need to follow that up with the SSR2.5 and then the SSR1. The SSR3 gets deeps swirls out by creating a very abrasive surface, and by doing so, it leaves TONS of swirls, which the SSR2.5 can easily get out. So, if you go straight from SSR3, to a carnauba, your car MIGHT look decent from far away, but in direct light, itll look like bucocky.

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#1562323 - 06/20/07 09:40 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Really? WTF? I have never had any problems applying it. Are you sure you weren't using too much? Glaze will take a bit longer to work into the paint, but i've had no problems taking it off at all.

I havent tried poorboys yet, so I have no comment, but the combinations I've been using work absolutely great for me.
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#1562766 - 06/20/07 11:22 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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I dont know man. I really feel some products, and that is not one of them.

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#1563547 - 06/20/07 02:20 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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So... I'll be ok to use the NXT as a glaze followed up by P21S Canuba wax? \:\)
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#1563633 - 06/20/07 02:44 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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I'm not familiar with the NXT that you're using. Do you have a link? It needs to be a real glaze in order to bring back the glossy look that the abrasives will dull down.

Also, may I suggest a better sealant before using the P21s? It's a great finishing wax, however, it doesn't last very long, so usually I'd suggest using something underneath unless you wax it 2-3+ times a year.
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#1563733 - 06/20/07 03:13 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Meg's NXT Tech Wax

Well I did use the NXT wax before apply the P21S, I really just did it to try out the products I got. \:\)

So, I think I've got this down...
Scratch remover - something like Sonus SFX-1
Followed by the Paintwork Cleanser
Then a good glaze, such as Klasse Sealant Glaze
P21S Carnuba
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#1563799 - 06/20/07 03:32 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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I usually use the cleaner (heavy cut or medium cut) first and then the swirl remover after. That klasse sealant glaze is awesome stuff - i recommended it earlier in the thread. That will work as both your glaze and a better sealant than the P21S so you have some better long term protection on your paint. I highly suggest it.

As for the NXT wax, its just a wax, and wont really create a gloss look after a cleaner.

Also, again keep this between us, but use the coupon code "autopia" for a discount of 10% savings on everything on autopia's site. So basically, you can get 10% off at all times on stuff from autopia or autogeek. They gave me the code since I ordered a good amount of stuff from them in the past month.
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#1564537 - 06/20/07 06:39 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Cool, thanks man!

This 10% code was in the detailing CD that was sent with my order. ACCGTD
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#1564569 - 06/20/07 06:50 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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Damn good info here ^^.

I will be grabbing some poor boy's I do beleive here soon. Injured my foot and had to have surgery..so I am on recoup mode for the next week..set me back a little...

I'll be sure to post up my experience's w/the Poorboy and my detailing methods as well..

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#1564594 - 06/20/07 07:01 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Be sure to, I'm thinking I'm going to go the Sonus and Klasse route for my detailing supplies. I'd like to be able to compare and contrast the 2 brands with ya. \:\)
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#1564718 - 06/20/07 07:47 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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I just ordered a backup yellow (aggressive) pad, the big jug of klasse polish/sealant, 1 gallon of 303 aerospace protectant, some sonus clay bar lubricant, and a few other minor things. These 10% discounts really help!!

I'm thinking of ordering that awesome little vacuum on the autogeek site here soon - that thing looks awesome! I've been using my moms really nice indoor vacuum with her attachments for detailing. It works fine for vacuuming a car once in a while, but for daily use it absolutely sucks, is too big, and shes gonna kill me if I break it. I also need something for my garage when I get back to my house at school.
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#1564775 - 06/20/07 08:08 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Ya know- Im FINALLY glad to see some participation in this forum. I think Im going to make this into a sticky thread for detailing related discussion.

Bobby-

Ive been eyeing the vacuum for the longest time myself, I just have yet to pull the trigger on it. Oh well, a time will come. Also, Adam- Be sure if you order the SSR3, to get the 2.5 and the 1 along with it. You have to gradually work your way back down or else youll have a fair amount of microswirling left in your finish. Although it will be invisible to an untrained eye, well, you get the point.

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#1565092 - 06/20/07 10:02 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Yeah, this thread kicks ass for pure informational purposes....

Its turned into a good forum man!!

Hit me up on aim sometime, we gotta catch up. Either way, back on topic....

That vacuum is the shit. If I had the money, I would splurge and get the Sr, with the wall mount, but thats just way out of the price range for me right now. I think I'll be ordering the other one in a few weeks though once I get some major bills paid off - its really lookin' good for the business. If you get it before me let me know how you like it.
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#1565176 - 06/20/07 10:28 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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I wont get it for at least 6 more weeks. Im stuck down in TN working with the incoming freshmen much to my dismay.

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#1565969 - 06/21/07 09:25 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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So, I was doing some research today, and found an alternative to paying $32 for a thing of P21s.

http://www.autogeek.net/s1capawax.html

I bring you, S100. Apparently its the same thing as the P21s, made by the same company, just used on motorcycles. However, its 50% cheaper, and you can't argue with that!!!

I'm already stocked up on my P21s, but when I need to buy more I'll be getting the S100.
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#1566011 - 06/21/07 09:45 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Yea, Ive read on Autopia and S2ki.com that the stuff is EXACTLY the same, just a vaguely different smell. But who cares about that. Oh, and for whoever is going to order the Poorboy's, a few benefits are that they all smell incredible AND THEY CAN BE USED IN DIRECT SUNLIGHT! Which is nice to use in the summer months...

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#1566074 - 06/21/07 10:03 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Hmm, this poorboys stuff sounds kinda cool. I heard the Poorboys Natty's Blue is an amazing carnuba wax also. Have you tried it yet?
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#1566081 - 06/21/07 10:06 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Yea, I'll be ordering the 3.0, 2.5 and 1.0 as a package per say..

I'd like to get a nice carnuba as well..but from my understanding I am limited to certain color cars...lighter/darker would need two versions??

Btw, I'm glad I could breath some life in here for ya... \:D

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#1566116 - 06/21/07 10:20 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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I got a free bottle of the Natty Carnauba, and well, your opinion is spot on. Give it about 30 minutes to set, and just EASILY wipe it off. It leaves the slickest feel Ive seen. It doesnt leave a great "depth" look to light cars, but on dark cars, its wicked. The only thing better is the Pinnacle Sovereign wax, but that craps expensive.

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#1566234 - 06/21/07 11:00 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Yea, Ive read on Autopia and S2ki.com that the stuff is EXACTLY the same, just a vaguely different smell. But who cares about that. Oh, and for whoever is going to order the Poorboy's, a few benefits are that they all smell incredible AND THEY CAN BE USED IN DIRECT SUNLIGHT! Which is nice to use in the summer months...

-Matt


That's actually pretty cool. The only issue I have is that I need something that can be applied in 100+ degree weather. Right now I wait until 8pm or later to start working on the car because it's too damn hot during the day. lol 110 today.
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#1566406 - 06/21/07 11:43 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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Poorboy's will work no problem. just dont let your sweat drip on it. They made it so you CAN detail in high heat and sun conditions! It says so right on the bottle.

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#1566424 - 06/21/07 11:50 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Well then I guess I'll be picking up sum of dem Po'boys! lol
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#1566633 - 06/21/07 01:06 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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Do you think the natty's is better then the P21s/S100?
Have you used the P21s/S100?

I've used many waxes, and nothing compares to that stuff - if you get any on your hands you'll be dropping stuff for the rest of the day due to the slickness haha. It gives an amazing feel and amazing look, and I just can't picture anything doing justice better.

I might try it sometime, but for right now I need to chill with spending money on detailing supplies. The poorboys 1, 2.5 and 3 sound good too, but I think it would be adding more steps to my process, and I already have a great working process down pat with all the proper pads. I think that would add a few more steps too.

Right now, I'll use one of the Meg's paint cleaners if the paint is in bad condition, and then follow up with the Sonus swirl remover. I have two yellow pads for both of these. After that, I'll either use Meg's #3 or #7 glaze (white pad) and #26 yellow wax (blue finishing pad) if its a regular cusomers car (older camry, civic, etc) or Klasse glaze/sealant (white pad) followed by P21s (applied by hand) if its for a higher class car with nicer paint (BMW, Ferrari, etc). This seems to work great for me and isn't too much work at all.
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#1567330 - 06/21/07 03:54 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Any reason why you apply the Klasse with the white pad rather than the blue? Personal preference?
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#1567360 - 06/21/07 04:05 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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Although it is also a sealant, I'm using it as a glaze to gloss up the paint. I may be wrong (let me know Matt what you think), but I feel that it would work better as a glaze with the "more aggressive" white pad. I suppose the blue would work too though.
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#1567364 - 06/21/07 04:06 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Also, it should be noted that you can add multiple layers of the klasse for a nicer deeper look, however you're supposed to wait in between, and I don't have enough time to do that with customers cars, and one does just fine.
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#1567717 - 06/21/07 06:07 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Ehhh, I dont know. I think the blue pad would be better suited for the Klasse. If you go to a more agressive pad, you might undo some of the before work. However, if you're using it as a glaze, I suppose its not a huge deal. Its splittin hairs in my opinion, but Im leaning towards the side of blue pad.

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#1567749 - 06/21/07 06:17 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Well the white pad is meant for the glaze, its semi-aggressive but not as much so as the yellow. The only work done before hand would be the cleaner/swirl remover and those are abrasives used with the yellow. The white surely wouldn't put any more swirls or scratches back in the paint, it would just work better to gloss it IMO.

I can see the argument for the blue pad for leaving the wax part of the klasse, but I guess thats the problem you get with these 2 in 1 products. Just like for the klasse AIO product; would you use the more aggressive yellow or the white? You'd want to use the yellow one so it could do its work...
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#1570621 - 06/22/07 03:02 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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I just got an email from Autopia saying their going to send me a new clay bar kit.

I sent them an email telling them how the kit I got was leaking (it didn't really leak a whole lot, enough to get 1/2 the microfiber towel wet though) and that I wanted them to know in case other kits were like this. I didn't write the email expecting to get something for free (HxGuy) but this is a welcomed surprise!

+1 for Autopia!
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#1572206 - 06/23/07 12:00 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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No, the vinegar will remove the etching too, but the wax at the same time, aka you're gonna have to re-wax that shizznick!


Oh, ok. Not a problem. It's only the trunk and top of the wing..



I tried that on my neighbors truck...only a yr or 2 old ford 150...paint is in great shape..except on the hood..it has the same etching like my trunk & wing..

We both rubbed forever trying to get it off...NOTHING. Used distilled vinager and a microfiber towl...

\:\(



I took a pic of my wing and circled the "problem areas" so you all can see what I am talking about..

On my trunk and wing.. \:\(



Any help would be fantastico !!

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#1572271 - 06/23/07 12:37 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Theyre just wate rspots in teh clear? alls u ogotta do is buf and get into the claer to get em out... try a heavy cut claener or somethin like that with the PC nad agressive pad on like speed 6...

excuse my typing lolz
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#1572816 - 06/23/07 11:46 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Adam-

I dont know how in the world youre going to get those black circles out of your paint, Id be pissed if I had crap like that on my car. Maye try an eraser or something?

Anyways, jokes aside, Bobbys right, you need an agressive swirl remover (Megs High Cut Polish, Poorboy's SSR3, etc), and an agressive pad (Wolfgang Concourse Yellow), and then just work your way back. If you have the balls, and that does not work, it might be worth it to try and give it a little wetsand.

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#1572886 - 06/23/07 12:34 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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They do look like water spots..but if you look closely it is more like etching in the clear..hard to explain..

Regardless I am ordering some Poorboys 3.0, 2.5 and 1.0 this week to see what happens..

For some reason there are several cars around me that have the same issue..hoods and roofs..

I figured it was from all the local plants polluting the atmosphere...

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#1572979 - 06/23/07 01:33 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Do you have sprinkler systems around you that maybe have acids or something else in the water? Strange.... I had that happen once to me on my old EBP, sprinklers at a hotel in ohio on my way back to NY had chemicals, i had no supplies, and then a 10 hour drive the next day with the hot sun beating down on the hood... i was able to get them out with a lot of bit of elbow grease once i got home though...

and lol @ my drunken post last night. Sorry boys, at least its somewhat understandable
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#1581941 - 06/26/07 12:23 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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I believe it's just acid rain...

A buddy of mine stopped @ our local detailer of 25yrs and picked up some polish he had. He put some in a small bottle for us to try...

It got rid of the water spots..but the clear is still etched..dimpled almost..

Just ordered the Poorboy's SSR3/2.5/1 to see if that helps..

If not, it's wetsand time...

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#1582017 - 06/26/07 12:39 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Good luck! I went over to the local paint shop yesterday and picked up some Meg's #2 Fine cut cleaner, #7 glaze and another yellow cutting pad so I can start working on the car today.
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#1582072 - 06/26/07 12:52 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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Well once the stuff gets here, I'll post up a review..

Quote:

Limited Edition Poorboys Natty’s Paste Wax – Red $24.99 1 Yes $24.99
Poorboy's SSR1 Light Abrasive Swirl Remover 16 oz. $12.99 1 Yes $12.99
Poorboy's SSR 2.5 Medium Super Swirl Remover 16 oz $12.99 1 Yes $12.99
Poorboy's SSR 3 Heavy Duty Compound 16 oz. $12.99 1 Yes $12.99
Black Again $7.99 1 Yes $7.99


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#1582074 - 06/26/07 12:53 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Good boy. :-) Take a big whiff of it all once it arrives, it all smells SO good.


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#1582417 - 06/26/07 02:11 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Good boy. :-) Take a big whiff of it all once it arrives, it all smells SO good.


-Matt



70 freakin dollars..this stuff is addicting..lol..

I have well over 300 bucks in the buffer/polishs/wax's/pads/microfibers/etc..

Sidenote..ever do any wetsanding if this stuff doesn't fix my wing/trunk?

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#1582730 - 06/26/07 03:14 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Ive tried it with 2000 grit sandpaper in a very inconspicuous area. Its nerve racking, but it really isnt as bad as it sounds. If youre 1/2 way competent, you should be fine.

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#1583741 - 06/26/07 08:31 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Ive tried it with 2000 grit sandpaper in a very inconspicuous area. Its nerve racking, but it really isnt as bad as it sounds. If youre 1/2 way competent, you should be fine.

-Matt


I've wet sanded before..no big deal..just wondered what grit I needed...

Should I freehand or block it?

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#1584851 - 06/27/07 08:45 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Freehand. BLock is better for sanding on wood, but on cars you need to really feel the surface through the paper.

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#1584979 - 06/27/07 09:30 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Freehand. BLock is better for sanding on wood, but on cars you need to really feel the surface through the paper.

-Matt



Once that stuff gets here by this weekend...I'll let you all know how it goes..

IF not..wetsand here I come..lol..

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#1586186 - 06/27/07 03:06 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Best of luck! If you have a camera, take pics step by step.

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#1589407 - 06/28/07 01:14 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Best of luck! If you have a camera, take pics step by step.

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Yep, yep.

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#1594176 - 06/29/07 05:42 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Well I got my shiznit in today..

Used the Poorboys SSR3.0 on the wing to see what happened w/my orange pad and PC.

It greatly improved the look, but they is still easily visible pitting in the clear...

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Guess it's wetsand time...

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#1603232 - 07/03/07 12:16 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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I am starting to aquire a nice heap of microfibers...

How do you guys wash em?

Some are just wax off towels, others are pretty dirty...

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#1606238 - 07/03/07 07:24 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Regular washing machine and dryer. Make sure to use NO HEAT in both. I usually run cold/cold in the washer with a little detergent as possible, and then no heat in the dryer with NO FABRIC SOFTENER.

How fast do you detailers go through pads on your PC 7424? I did about 15 cars on one set of pads and 2 of them are shot.
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#1610330 - 07/05/07 08:54 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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After reading through this thread i decided to buy a PC. I got it a couple weeks ago and buffed my car this past weekend. The sides and trunk turned out great but im not satisfied with the roof and hood. I used poorboys SSR2.5, SSR1, EXP, and finished it off with Mothers Carnauba. I ordered Poorboys SSR3 to try on the roof and hood. I had a couple questions.

What speed are you using for each pad and product?
Poorboys SSR3 with yellow pad
Poorboys SSR2.5 with orange pad
Poorboys SSR1 with white pad
Poorboys EXP with gray pad
Mothers Carnauba with blue pad

And also do you put any prussure on the buffer and does it vary for what your doing. I've read different things. Some say let the buffer do all the work and read somewhere else to put about 25lbs on it. What do you guys think?

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#1610357 - 07/05/07 09:10 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 00si2]
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Use speed 6 for all the SSR products, and 3 with exp, and 1-2 for the Mother's. Im sure I put some pressure on it, but I know not 25 lbs worth.

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And Bobby- Mine last me about 20 cars. Obviously the cutting pads will wear out faster.
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#1610985 - 07/05/07 11:32 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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I'm not familar w/the
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Is this a glaze?

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#1611063 - 07/05/07 11:52 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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#1620275 - 07/07/07 06:51 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Regular washing machine and dryer. Make sure to use NO HEAT in both. I usually run cold/cold in the washer with a little detergent as possible, and then no heat in the dryer with NO FABRIC SOFTENER.


They so make special stuff to wash your MF towels. Its called Micro-restore, and it works great. Woolite also works great for cleaning. Just be sure not to wash them with anything else. They will pick up all the lint from the other items and ruin the towel.
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#1621402 - 07/07/07 04:18 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 04silvrSI]
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More GREAT information for this WONDERFUL thread.... this should put everything into perspective for some of you n00bs \:D

http://thedetailinghandbook.com/Polish_Chart.aspx
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#1622317 - 07/07/07 10:51 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Dang, good chart Bobby! Thanks.

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#1626183 - 07/09/07 11:47 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 04silvrSI]
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Originally Posted By: PurduinaSi
Regular washing machine and dryer. Make sure to use NO HEAT in both. I usually run cold/cold in the washer with a little detergent as possible, and then no heat in the dryer with NO FABRIC SOFTENER.


They so make special stuff to wash your MF towels. Its called Micro-restore, and it works great. Woolite also works great for cleaning. Just be sure not to wash them with anything else. They will pick up all the lint from the other items and ruin the towel.



Link to Micro-Restore?

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#1626203 - 07/09/07 11:49 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Sidenote:

I worked on my buddies hood this weekend.

SSR3 - Orange
SSR2.5 - Orange
SSR1 - Oroange
Meg's #7 Glaze - White
NXT Sealant. - Black
Natty's Carnuba - Black
Buffed w/Micro on Orange Pad.

Freakin killer when it was done. Took all the water damage off. He was very happy. Had several scratches in the paint which were removed.

Amazing setup.
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#1626468 - 07/09/07 12:56 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Dont say I didnt tell ya. :P

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#1627239 - 07/09/07 03:47 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Link to Micro-Restore?



Ask and you receive:

Micro-Restore at the Geek
Pinnacle MF Detergent

Here are a couple links to Autogeek showing the 2 products. The Micro Restore is on sale this week, now is the time to get it.
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#1629406 - 07/10/07 09:01 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 04silvrSI]
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Link to Micro-Restore?



Ask and you receive:

Micro-Restore at the Geek
Pinnacle MF Detergent

Here are a couple links to Autogeek showing the 2 products. The Micro Restore is on sale this week, now is the time to get it.



Thanks!!
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#1629411 - 07/10/07 09:03 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Dont say I didnt tell ya. :P

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Ha ha, funny thing.

On wednesday I was going to get some fireworks. I got caught in some rain which pissed me off. Anyway...when I pulled in and got out it was barely sprinkling by then. I looked @ the car and it was dry..lol.

The rain couldn't stick to the paint and it had blown off during the drive..I looked around the parking lot and every car was soaked..here sat mine dry as could be..lol.

I laughed to myself and went inside..

The wax setup is like rain-x for your car...lol..

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#1629546 - 07/10/07 09:43 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Yep, mine is the same way. Its great stuff. \:\)

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#1638046 - 07/12/07 12:12 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Originally Posted By: SiAdam


Link to Micro-Restore?



Ask and you receive:

Micro-Restore at the Geek
Pinnacle MF Detergent

Here are a couple links to Autogeek showing the 2 products. The Micro Restore is on sale this week, now is the time to get it.



Thanks!!



Ordred the micro-restore as well as more of the Natty's Red Carnuba..and a yellow cutting pad...

Only pad I don't have..and I needed it last night on a vehicle..took me twice as long w/an organge..

Speaking of, I am going to post pics soon.

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#1639715 - 07/12/07 07:09 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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I would love to see pics of the Natty's Red. I haven't had a chance to use it yet, but I have heard great things about it.
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#1639776 - 07/12/07 07:26 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 04silvrSI]
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I would love to see pics of the Natty's Red. I haven't had a chance to use it yet, but I have heard great things about it.



Pics of the wax or after it's applied to a vehicle?

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#1643121 - 07/13/07 02:49 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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#1643429 - 07/13/07 04:01 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Both.

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+1
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#1644369 - 07/13/07 10:45 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 04silvrSI]
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Both.

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I have before..but no after...I am going to finish up the car in the next week or so..I'll have pics then.

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#1710122 - 08/01/07 08:35 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Ok, I've ordered the PC 7424 from Tools Plus and it should be in soon. I still have a little confusion over the backing plate and pads. I am primarily using the PC for waxing my tahoe as it's new and doesn't seem to have any swirls yet.

So first question, which backing plate is needed?

http://www.autogeek.net/porter-cable-7424-7336-backing-plates.html

As for the pads I am still a bit unsure still but I've seen some charts that show what type of pad is best for waxing/polishing
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#1711868 - 08/02/07 09:29 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: TallyDAWG]
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I just use the one that came w/it?

Maybe someone else can offer some better advice.

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#1712544 - 08/02/07 12:07 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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It depends on what package you purchased. Do you have a link to the one you bought? The kit I bought from Autopia had a 6" flexible backing pad.

Usually the basic pad kit consists of a cutting pad, polishing pad and finishing pad. Tat's what you'd want to get polishing. Personally I've used both Sonus and Meg's softbuff pads on my PC. I like the Sonus pads alot more than the softbuff.
Here's a link to pads, etc from Autopia. If you look back in this thread you'll see a code for an additional 10% off.

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/sonussfxpads.html

Hope this has helped you some man! Good luck on the detailing.

EDIT: Since the Tahoe is new, I don't think you'd need to use the cutting pad....yet. But you will over time as swirls and scratches accumulate.
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#1714761 - 08/02/07 08:16 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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I only ordered the PC (no kit, etc) as I found it over at Tools Plus for 99$ and 6$ shipping.



Originally Posted By: SD91RS
It depends on what package you purchased. Do you have a link to the one you bought? The kit I bought from Autopia had a 6" flexible backing pad.

Usually the basic pad kit consists of a cutting pad, polishing pad and finishing pad. Tat's what you'd want to get polishing. Personally I've used both Sonus and Meg's softbuff pads on my PC. I like the Sonus pads alot more than the softbuff.
Here's a link to pads, etc from Autopia. If you look back in this thread you'll see a code for an additional 10% off.

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/sonussfxpads.html

Hope this has helped you some man! Good luck on the detailing.

EDIT: Since the Tahoe is new, I don't think you'd need to use the cutting pad....yet. But you will over time as swirls and scratches accumulate.
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#1777455 - 08/22/07 11:41 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: TallyDAWG]
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Finally got around to detailing my Firehawk...




3M Fine cut on the hood with a Meg's Cutting Pad
Meg's Swirl Remover 2.0 with a Sonus Cutting Pad
Farecla WaxTop polish with a Sonus Finishing Pad
2 coats of P21S applied and buffed off by hand.

It still has some minor scratches in the clear than I need to get out with a more aggressive compound.

Prolly should have wiped the dust off the car before I took pics...
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#1825563 - 09/05/07 10:13 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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So.... has anyone heard the rumor that The Chemical Guys are the ones who make Poor Boy's polish?
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#1825957 - 09/05/07 11:33 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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I had no idea, but I took delivery of my first poorboys products today, and used them on a customers car, and HOLY SHIT !?!?! ! lkjfdjhhaiojewlk

Black ford lightning, 1999, never been waxed, horrible shape.. big car

Came out spotless. Looks sooooo much better. I should have taken pictures but it was late and it was taking forever and it was dark and i didnt finish until 11 pm..
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#1826015 - 09/05/07 11:52 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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A buddy of mine told me some dude got banned/harassed/etc for posting that info on detailcity. One dude on autopia posted about it too.

Chemical Guys = Poor Boys
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#1826110 - 09/06/07 12:17 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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Interesting....

My roommate used to work at a car wash/detailing place, and he was looking at my poorboys stuff today and smelling it and telling me that they used the same stuff at the place where he used to work. He said he'd never forget that smell. I thought it was interesting. He said they got them in huge gallon jugs and went through it like butter, and there were no labels or anything on them.
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#2249509 - 01/22/08 02:40 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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I've got a question for you guys... in all my years of detailing, I've never dealt with this problem before.

I got my wheels put on the car last week, and did a quick detailing today. I used the PC with Griots Machine Polish 3 on the flat surfaces, and 3M Hand Glaze everywhere else. Finished up with a coat of Blitz Wax.

One of my wheels was purchased used. The wheel looks like new, but after washing today, I noticed that it didn't have the clearcoat shine of the other wheels. The finish appears clean, but is rough, and dull. It's just a clearcoated OEM alloy wheel. I thought maybe the clearcoat had somehow been stripped by the previous owner, but I used an aggressive machine polish and did bring it back somewhat. There is a clearcoat, but it needs an aggressive polishing.

What would you guys recommend? My PC and 6 inch pads are cumbersome, and I don't think that any hand-applied product is going to get the job done. It's going to need an aggressive polish and probably some elbow grease to polish it up nicely... I have no idea what happened. The wheel looks flawless, but for some reason the clearcoat is rough and dull.
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#2250231 - 01/22/08 11:26 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: CORONA.ESQ]
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Try using a Mother's Mini Powerball to attach on a drill. Use that with either metal polish, or a fine cut clear coat polish and it should bring it back!

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#2250687 - 01/22/08 02:06 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Is it safe to use a metal polish on clearcoated alloy wheels?



This is not the problem wheel, but that's what I'm working with. Actually, from this distance, a pic of the problem wheel would look identical. The dull finish isn't something you would notice unless the wheels are spotless.
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#2250843 - 01/22/08 02:55 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: CORONA.ESQ]
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No, I wouldnt use a metal polish on clearcoated items such as your wheels. Just use whichever polish or wax you use on regular paint.

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#2286960 - 02/02/08 05:20 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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I have a question regarding the last two stages. It seems some people are using the Klasse sealant and paste wax in different order, for example, most detailing guides says Klasse goes last, but it looks like the detailers on here prefer a coating of P21S on top of the Klasses. I would like to know what is being achieved with both methods and how do you achieve it (like how you are using the products and what pads are you using). Thanks.
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#2287528 - 02/02/08 03:41 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: RunningOnMT]
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The sealant is the protective layer and the wax adds the "pop" to the paint.

I use JetSeal 109 by Chemical Guys, which I apply by hand and then finish with either Pete's '53 or P21s. (by hand as well)
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#2324213 - 02/13/08 02:53 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: RunningOnMT]
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 Originally Posted By: RunningOnMT
I have a question regarding the last two stages. It seems some people are using the Klasse sealant and paste wax in different order, for example, most detailing guides says Klasse goes last, but it looks like the detailers on here prefer a coating of P21S on top of the Klasses. I would like to know what is being achieved with both methods and how do you achieve it (like how you are using the products and what pads are you using). Thanks.


Klasse is a sealant, and it will help "protect" your paint. The P21s gives the paint depth.
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#2656022 - 05/20/08 07:08 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Anyone used a clay bar? If this has been discussed please let me know
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#2676050 - 05/28/08 09:36 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: davecalgary]
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go to http://www.detailing101.blogspot.com as I make mention of it there.

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#2745555 - 06/19/08 12:27 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Still glad this thread is stickied...alot of good info here..

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#2749413 - 06/20/08 01:12 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Haha, Im glad. \:\)

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#2855440 - 07/25/08 08:39 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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 Originally Posted By: 2000CivicStud
go to http://www.detailing101.blogspot.com as I make mention of it there.

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Gonna have have to clay bar my car this weekend. with just my messican arm. lol.
is it recommened to wax it after you clay bar it?
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#2855826 - 07/25/08 11:57 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: FBP EM1]
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I think so, because the clay removes pretty much everything, including previous waxes. Wash after you clay though, just to make sure it's spic and span for the wax/sealant.
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#2863560 - 07/29/08 11:20 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: Kmac]
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 Originally Posted By: Kmac
I think so, because the clay removes pretty much everything, including previous waxes. Wash after you clay though, just to make sure it's spic and span for the wax/sealant.


Spot on. Yes, you need to wax it after you clay. \:\)

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#3028718 - 09/18/08 10:05 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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as a help meet for the clay, when doing a full detail, I like to pre soak, and then spray the horizontal surfaces of the car with degreaser diluted 10:1. Then wash as normal. Very nice!
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#3056540 - 09/26/08 03:39 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: navyblue2000]
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bit of a follow up. claYed and waxed my car for Nisei. Paint looked a lot deeper and felt soft as hell. haha!
pics:

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#3058005 - 09/27/08 03:22 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: FBP EM1]
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Looks great man!
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#3094223 - 10/08/08 07:43 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: CORONA.ESQ]
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Excellent job.
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#3110217 - 10/14/08 01:49 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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 Originally Posted By: SiAdam
 Originally Posted By: SD91RS
Autopia is having a father's day sale on a 7424 kit. (20% off)


Should I jump on this kit of go ahead and get the auto geek one?

What ya think Matt?

Thanks!


The autogeek kit I purchased came w/more pads/cleaner/conditioner and was 199.



Promos like these is very important for me. I really want to buy something for my father after teaching me everything about cars.

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#3114428 - 10/15/08 09:50 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: FBP EM1]
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 Originally Posted By: FBP EM1
bit of a follow up. claYed and waxed my car for Nisei. Paint looked a lot deeper and felt soft as hell. haha!
pics:



Your car looks outstanding man. Great work!

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#3116681 - 10/15/08 08:08 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Thanks guys!

who needs a PC 7424. :P
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#4469608 - 01/28/10 07:16 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: FBP EM1]
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maybe i do haha.

my friend recently bought one so i got to see the results first hand and they were amazing. theres a big show coming up so id like to use his PC and bring the best shine possible. i will most likely buy my own pads and waxes etc and use his PC. so my question is: which pads and chemicals should i order? ive seen quite a few suggestions but noone has came to an agreement on which works "best".

would i start with a medium or heavy cut? my paint is showing swirls and light scratches. detailing guru's, what would you recommend for a black car?
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#4566332 - 03/04/10 06:44 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: ]
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buahaha! well i decided to go ahead and not listen to you :P i didnt have endless amounts of money so i couldnt buy everything that i wanted. i am happy overall with the finish so i dont care.

i ended with with
menzerna power gloss
menzerna super intensive polish
menzerna super finish nano
collinite #845
Lake county CCS Pads

washed the car with dish soap
applied the power gloss with a yellow pad
applied the SIP with an orange pad
applied the Nano with a gray pad
applied the collinite with a blue pad

final results:



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#4576045 - 03/08/10 07:21 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: ]
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Thanks, took me a long time to work it all in. it was my first time using a pc so i took my time, which was prob good for it anyways.
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#4578692 - 03/09/10 03:14 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: ]
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yea its pretty foolproof. i should be buying one sometime soon \:\)
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#5511893 - 04/21/11 05:34 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: FBP EM1]
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let's talk clay bars, i've always been using either the mothers yellow claybar or the meguires white, are they any good or should i be looking into something else?

i'm just waiting on my shipment from eshine, i picked up a dewalt polisher, lake country orange for M105, LC white for M205 and the LC black finishing pad for the blackfire wet diamond.

i have two brand new claybars, (one yellow mothers, one white megs) is one better than the other?

and i'd love to grab a foam canon, but i just found out that my pressure washer took a shit. think that washing down the car with dawn will be ok?

thoughts? opinions?
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#5565755 - 05/17/11 12:09 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: titty sprinkles]
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All my products were left in the garage and I just noticed that my poorboy's EX-P sealant chunked up It looks like it separated. I tried to shake it up, but it just ended up looking like cottage cheese. Can I still use it? It happened to the poorboy's ssr 1 also, but not the ssr2.5. Also, my PC has a 4in backing plate, but the pads that I'm using are 5.5 inch. Will that be okay, or am I fucking something up? Thanks in advance for any help!
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#5584458 - 05/25/11 04:26 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: slant_eyed]
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Looking to wax my civic soon, anyone have experience with Swissvax Crystal rock?

http://www.autoobsessed.com/shop/swissva...auba-p-822.html

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#6052812 - 01/10/12 09:38 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: ]
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I started spraying my microfiber cloth I use to remove the excess wax/sealant from my truck with a quick detailer. Is this pointless? The reason I do that is to help cut down on the dust and it seems to make sure I get everything up with a lot less work. I also use it to moisten the applicator pad.
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#6257445 - 04/04/12 09:14 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: sexypants]
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For those of you who are interested, Amazon has the Porter-Cable 7424XP on sale for $89 shipped right now...just make sure that you pick Amazon as the selling merchant:

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=48993526&postcount=2
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