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#3482291 - 02/15/09 06:45 PM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: Impulsive]
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I'm very interested in the 2.0t version. If you're gonna bitch about weight nowadays, you might as well go home and just look at old cars. New cars are heavier, we've got to learn to accept that. Too many safety requirements and all of that. Moddability is going to be a big factor for me; if this thing can get to mid 12s without swapping the turbo I think it's a WIN. That and the reliability factor. I can't wait to test drive one.
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#3482348 - 02/15/09 07:05 PM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: cliff st-clair]
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 Originally Posted By: cliff st-clair
If you're gonna bitch about weight nowadays, you might as well go home and just look at old cars.


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#3482362 - 02/15/09 07:10 PM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: cliff st-clair]
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 Originally Posted By: cliff st-clair
I'm very interested in the 2.0t version. If you're gonna bitch about weight nowadays, you might as well go home and just look at old cars. New cars are heavier, we've got to learn to accept that. Too many safety requirements and all of that. Moddability is going to be a big factor for me; if this thing can get to mid 12s without swapping the turbo I think it's a WIN. That and the reliability factor. I can't wait to test drive one.


In a year or two I will be looking at the V6 model and the 370Z.

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#3483145 - 02/15/09 11:59 PM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: scootergeek]
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LOL,the thing is,it's possible.

Look at cars that dont break the bank and ARENT old,like the C6Z,C5Z (you can get a newer,low mileage one,not like it's a classic or anything),the RX8,the Elise and the Evora.

But if it's close to the AWD Evo,and it's rwd,its too heavy.

Im not mad or anything,just saying.....

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#3484499 - 02/16/09 02:26 PM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: progressi]
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The c5z to me is old. To me new is everything that is currently being produced.
But besides the Vettes, and the Elise, underpowered Miata and a few others I can't think of there are not many new RWD cars that weign less than 3300-3400lbs. The main reason Vettes weign so little have to do with their powertrain imo. Do you suggest they put pushrods in most modern cars? Not gonna happen. Nothing wrong with pushrods as far as I'm concerned, but no manufacturer is willing to go low tech nowadays, not even when they see what the Z06 and zr-1 can do performancewise at a relatively low cost.
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#3484769 - 02/16/09 03:51 PM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: cliff st-clair]
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 Originally Posted By: cliff st-clair
The c5z to me is old. To me new is everything that is currently being produced.
But besides the Vettes, and the Elise, underpowered Miata and a few others I can't think of there are not many new RWD cars that weign less than 3300-3400lbs. The main reason Vettes weign so little have to do with their powertrain imo. Do you suggest they put pushrods in most modern cars? Not gonna happen. Nothing wrong with pushrods as far as I'm concerned, but no manufacturer is willing to go low tech nowadays, not even when they see what the Z06 and zr-1 can do performancewise at a relatively low cost.


You mean perceived low tech.

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#3486273 - 02/17/09 12:20 AM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: cliff st-clair]
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 Originally Posted By: cliff st-clair
The c5z to me is old. To me new is everything that is currently being produced.
But besides the Vettes, and the Elise, underpowered Miata and a few others I can't think of there are not many new RWD cars that weign less than 3300-3400lbs. The main reason Vettes weign so little have to do with their powertrain imo. Do you suggest they put pushrods in most modern cars? Not gonna happen. Nothing wrong with pushrods as far as I'm concerned, but no manufacturer is willing to go low tech nowadays, not even when they see what the Z06 and zr-1 can do performancewise at a relatively low cost.
Wow-what a mess that was. I dont even know where to start.

Edit: Almost got me,not taking the bait.


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#3488000 - 02/17/09 03:36 PM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: HoustonFocusST]
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 Originally Posted By: HoustonRSX
 Originally Posted By: cliff st-clair
The c5z to me is old. To me new is everything that is currently being produced.
But besides the Vettes, and the Elise, underpowered Miata and a few others I can't think of there are not many new RWD cars that weign less than 3300-3400lbs. The main reason Vettes weign so little have to do with their powertrain imo. Do you suggest they put pushrods in most modern cars? Not gonna happen. Nothing wrong with pushrods as far as I'm concerned, but no manufacturer is willing to go low tech nowadays, not even when they see what the Z06 and zr-1 can do performancewise at a relatively low cost.


You mean perceived low tech.


What exactly is high tech about the z06 powertrain or the Zr1 powertrain?
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#3488018 - 02/17/09 03:40 PM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: cliff st-clair]
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Do you think that 90% of the car buying public knows and/or cares if their car is SOHC, DOHC, pushrod, N/A, turbo, VTEC, etc?
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#3488406 - 02/17/09 05:20 PM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: ]
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I'm talking about the engine and transmission, which aren't exactly just out the box designs.
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#3488415 - 02/17/09 05:23 PM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: fellfrosch7]
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 Originally Posted By: fellfrosch7
Do you think that 90% of the car buying public knows and/or cares if their car is SOHC, DOHC, pushrod, N/A, turbo, VTEC, etc?


I wasn't referring to what the public cares about, I was talking about what most manufacturers care to build.
I am not against GM for putting old school stuff in their cars because obviously it works. But it's unfair to demand that everybody else does the same. That's all I'm saying.
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#3488644 - 02/17/09 06:50 PM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: cliff st-clair]
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I do think a portion of the public who is buying cars in the sport compact market does care about the engine/technology used. I won't pretend have 4 cams spinning is somehow more technology than one, but public perception still applies a bit here.

The C6 is a pretty pricey vehicle compared to the class of the Genesis and is a body on frame construction, fibreglass body and a 2 seater.

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#3488708 - 02/17/09 07:24 PM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: cliff st-clair]
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 Originally Posted By: cliff st-clair

I am not against GM for putting old school stuff in their cars because obviously it works.


Wow, I can't resist.

All this "new high tech" shit you are talking about(DOHC 4valves/cyl) came out long before the pushrod V-8. Peugeot first used it in 1914 and Deusenberg used it in the cars in the 1920s. Before spouting all that "high tech ricer crap" do some research. JESUS!

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#3488773 - 02/17/09 07:52 PM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: cliff st-clair]
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 Originally Posted By: cliff st-clair


What exactly is high tech about the z06 powertrain or the Zr1 powertrain?



Ignoring perhaps you're product confusion, do you really want to get into the hi-tech-ness of the C6/Z06 debate? It doesn't begin and end with the word "pushrods" for instance.

Just wondering if you are serious or if this is a troll post. Like somebody said, I'm dangling near the bait but not really sure if I should take it.
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#3576462 - 03/19/09 10:04 AM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: Impulsive]
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Looks nice - reminds me a bit of the G37, especially in the pic where they are nose to nose.
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#3578055 - 03/19/09 04:49 PM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: LonelySteve]
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Who cares about high-tech/low-tech...What's faster?
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#3578065 - 03/19/09 04:56 PM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: Impulsive]
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Not sure if it's been posted in this thread, but 2.0t makes 197 whp.
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#9173960 - 10/31/17 03:26 AM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: CLAY'S 99SI]
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#9387793 - 09/02/18 09:13 AM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: HYst]
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Looks ok, it's a Hyundai what you want. It's a poor man's tune car. Piggy backing off another post it does remind me of of my g37 the body has similar lines. Bottom line, I could never drive a Hyundai or a Kia if my life depended on. Come on you have to have morals...smh...however, to each his own.
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#9427963 - 10/26/18 08:49 AM Re: Genesis Coupe Looks FTW [Re: dohcvtecguy]
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Poor man's tune car? Wut? Have to have morals? lol wut?

My BK1 Genesis Coupe is a hoot to drive and get's compliments all the time. Meanwhile Infiniti's are a dime a dozen around here. YMMV.
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