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#1169542 - 03/19/07 09:18 AM DETAILING CHIT CHAT (formerly PC 7424 thread)
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As time has gone on, this thread has become a center of some great information. With that being said, it is now a sticky. If you make a new post re: the PC7424 after reading this thread, you're a moron. Anyways, stick to this thread for a detailing discussion. THIS IS THE PLACE FOR DETAILING TALK!

I have noticed time and time again you recommend this buffer. I am set on purchasing one when the sun finally breaks and is out for good.

However I have been notcing ALOT of different accessories when it comes to pads/bonnets/etc.

Any links or info on what I should purchase, or make sure it comes w/?

Thanks


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#1171449 - 03/19/07 06:59 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Make sure it comes with a pad that allows you to affix polishing pads with Velcro backing. Griot's Garage sells all that stuff for the PC machines.
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#1171647 - 03/19/07 07:45 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SVTNate]
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Yes, absolutely get the velcro backing pad, that makes it exceptionally easier to change pads.

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#1172428 - 03/19/07 11:07 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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I'm going to be trying these out soon for mine:

http://www.autogeek.net/bf200.html
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#1184459 - 03/23/07 10:01 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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I am going to be getting one of these soon..

I will start gather up the waxes/etc....lol..

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#1204169 - 03/29/07 01:12 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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As for the pads, how long do they last?

How do you all clean them?

I can't afford to be buying pads all the time..

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#1204200 - 03/29/07 01:19 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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They should last a long time. Just be careful because the velcro will peel off the back if you rip it off too fast from the backing plate.

Theyre easy to clean, just a bucket of warm water and whatever that pad cleaner shit is.
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#1204246 - 03/29/07 01:27 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Originally Posted By: PurduinaSi
They should last a long time. Just be careful because the velcro will peel off the back if you rip it off too fast from the backing plate.

Theyre easy to clean, just a bucket of warm water and whatever that pad cleaner shit is.



Ok, cool.

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#1210529 - 03/31/07 01:19 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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pinch the pads under running water. Works great.

Now, the pads have to be dry, or they'll start forming mold. Ask me how I know ;\)

You don't want to wring out the pads, especially the velcro-backed pads, because the backing will start to separate. Go outside, FAR AWAY FROM YOUR CLEAN CAR, put the pad back on the buffer at low speed, and just spin the water out. IT only takes a minute or so and the pad will be completely dry, but it will fling water all over the place.
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#1213590 - 04/01/07 10:25 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SVTNate]
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I have a lambswool pad on my orbital craftman buffer I have now...I have done that w/

I wanted something I can put the wax on w/that would have a little more "cutting" power...

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#1324357 - 05/03/07 10:53 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Best price on the unit is on eBay..

170 w/pads and such?

Good kill, or is there a better deal to be had elsewhere??

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#1327617 - 05/04/07 01:09 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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I paid $150 from Griot's Garage, but that was probably a decade ago.

I actually just ordered a replacement velcro backing pad for my P/C, as the original rubber is dry and badly cracked.

Other than some polish "fling" stains and other signs of use, my P/C is still running as good as new. Well worth the money. I've probably polished various cars over a hundred times with it.
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#1328140 - 05/04/07 09:22 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SVTNate]
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There is no question it will last..I have a portal cable sander...thing runs like a champ for many yrs..

I figure the pads/etc would be the wear items..

Just looking for a good reputable/reasonable place to purchase said unit...

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#1329618 - 05/04/07 03:18 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Heh- if you wanna help a bud out- go to http://www.detailingfaq.blogspot.com and click on the Amazon link through there to buy it. Comes with a pad and I believe its only 110.00 there.

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#1361365 - 05/07/07 09:30 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Originally Posted By: 2000CivicStud
Heh- if you wanna help a bud out- go to http://www.detailingfaq.blogspot.com and click on the Amazon link through there to buy it. Comes with a pad and I believe its only 110.00 there.

-Matt


Sounds decent enough...however what all do I need to come w/it..

Waxes/Extra pads..want to get it all @ once..

??

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I looked @ the link...read about the waxes...but didn't see anything about the pads I should purchase as well.

Links/stores/etc?



Edited by SiAdam (05/07/07 11:43 AM)
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#1362171 - 05/07/07 12:45 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Hit me on AIM Adam, mgpsicnc.

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#1363315 - 05/07/07 03:15 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Originally Posted By: 2000CivicStud
Hit me on AIM Adam, mgpsicnc.

THanks,
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Will do...

Thanks.
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#1364856 - 05/07/07 10:18 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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No problem.

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#1432587 - 05/14/07 02:20 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Btw..I am ready to buy this..what pads should I look into buying for my first attempts?

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#1432762 - 05/14/07 02:56 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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I like the Griot's Garage orange polishing pads. Get a 3-pack for $30.
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#1432782 - 05/14/07 02:58 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SVTNate]
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Originally Posted By: SVTNate
I like the Griot's Garage orange polishing pads. Get a 3-pack for $30.



I saw this...

Good buy?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porter-Ca...sspagenameZWDVW

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#1432805 - 05/14/07 03:02 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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I am looking for a guide..

Step 1 use x pad
Step 2 use x pad
Step 3 ....
etc...

Basically so I know what pads to use...and in what order.

Thanks
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#1434476 - 05/14/07 08:55 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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I'm in a similar boat as SiAdam.
I've kinda narrowed down my selection to 3 different kits.

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/son-daspol-kit.html

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/son-sfxpol-kit.html

http://www.autogeek.net/hk7424.html


Opinions?
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#1434617 - 05/14/07 09:18 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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I think kit #3 is your best bet as it comes with the most stuff. With that being said, Adam- the thing you need to know is you begin with a cutting pad (whether it be light, medium, or heavy cut), and then just work your way back down, going to a polishing pad, and then a finishing pad. For my pads, I go yellow, white, black, and I *think* I got my kit off of autopia somewhere, its been awhile though.

-Matt

Also, feel free to post these in the detailing thread!
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#1434692 - 05/14/07 09:40 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Originally Posted By: SiAdam
Originally Posted By: SVTNate
I like the Griot's Garage orange polishing pads. Get a 3-pack for $30.



I saw this...

Good buy?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porter-Ca...sspagenameZWDVW



Is this a good buy??

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#1437859 - 05/15/07 08:33 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Meh, its alright. It doesnt come with a finishing pad or a heavy cutting pad. I would get one that comes with one pad for the following:

Heavy Cutting
Medium Cutting
Light Cutting
Finishing

With that being said, I think youd be better off buying one of the above kits.

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#1438021 - 05/15/07 09:15 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Originally Posted By: 2000CivicStud
Meh, its alright. It doesnt come with a finishing pad or a heavy cutting pad. I would get one that comes with one pad for the following:

Heavy Cutting
Medium Cutting
Light Cutting
Finishing

With that being said, I think youd be better off buying one of the above kits.

-Matt



Like #3?

I am seriously thinking about pulling the trigger today...just afraid it won't be here by friday...where is that place located?

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#1438151 - 05/15/07 09:47 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Originally Posted By: 2000CivicStud
Meh, its alright. It doesnt come with a finishing pad or a heavy cutting pad. I would get one that comes with one pad for the following:

Heavy Cutting
Medium Cutting
Light Cutting
Finishing

With that being said, I think youd be better off buying one of the above kits.

-Matt



Like #3?

I am seriously thinking about pulling the trigger today...just afraid it won't be here by friday...where is that place located?




lol...I called them..They are located in Fl.

She said it should be here by Friday..so well see...??

I am thinking it over and will prolly order it soon..

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#1438215 - 05/15/07 10:02 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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It's on the way

http://www.autogeek.net/hk7424.html

See what happens..

Wish me luck...lol.

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#1438564 - 05/15/07 11:26 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Good luck! Dont hesitate to hit me on AIM for any pointers.

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#1438743 - 05/15/07 12:12 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Originally Posted By: 2000CivicStud
Good luck! Dont hesitate to hit me on AIM for any pointers.

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I've already got some..lol..

I watched a vid regarding it...I'll post the link in a min.

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#1442644 - 05/16/07 08:30 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Light Swirl Removal

Intermediate Swirl Removal


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#1442856 - 05/16/07 09:45 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Cool, thanks!

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#1443478 - 05/16/07 12:07 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Cool, thanks!

-Matt


No problemo. They are nice vids...figured they would help others see how the equipment is used correctly.lol.

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#1446523 - 05/17/07 12:17 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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You said you go w/this order Yellow, White & Black.

I have
White 6.5 inch Polishing Foam Pads
Less dense foam formula for the application of waxes, micro-fine polishes and sealants. This pad has very light cutting power so its perfect for pre-wax cleaners.

Gray 6.5 Inch Finishing Foam Pads
Composition is firm enough to withstand added pressure during final finishing to remove buffer swirls. It has no cut and will apply thin, even coats of waxes, sealants, and glazes.

Blue 6.5 Inch Finessing Foam Pad
Flat pad has soft composition for applying glaze, finishing polish, sealants, and liquid waxes. Flat pad provides full contact with paint surface to minimize the pressure applied by the user.

Orange Low Profile Foam pads
The 5.5 inch pad will remove light to moderate scratches and swirls and light oxidation. Firm, high density foam for scratch and defect removal. Use this pad with polishes and swirl removers. Itís an all around pad that will work on most light to moderate imperfections.


Ok, w/all that out of the way..what order should I use them ?

Also, w/what combination of waxes should I use. I have a sealer liquid wax that a local detailer uses, called liquid Glass I believe..

Everything else I will need to purchase locally. What other waxes/cleaners/polishes/glazes/sealers/etc do I need.

I am going to wash/clay before I start...got a big show on Sat to attend.

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