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#1606238 - 07/03/07 07:24 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Regular washing machine and dryer. Make sure to use NO HEAT in both. I usually run cold/cold in the washer with a little detergent as possible, and then no heat in the dryer with NO FABRIC SOFTENER.

How fast do you detailers go through pads on your PC 7424? I did about 15 cars on one set of pads and 2 of them are shot.
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#1610330 - 07/05/07 08:54 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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After reading through this thread i decided to buy a PC. I got it a couple weeks ago and buffed my car this past weekend. The sides and trunk turned out great but im not satisfied with the roof and hood. I used poorboys SSR2.5, SSR1, EXP, and finished it off with Mothers Carnauba. I ordered Poorboys SSR3 to try on the roof and hood. I had a couple questions.

What speed are you using for each pad and product?
Poorboys SSR3 with yellow pad
Poorboys SSR2.5 with orange pad
Poorboys SSR1 with white pad
Poorboys EXP with gray pad
Mothers Carnauba with blue pad

And also do you put any prussure on the buffer and does it vary for what your doing. I've read different things. Some say let the buffer do all the work and read somewhere else to put about 25lbs on it. What do you guys think?

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#1610357 - 07/05/07 09:10 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 00si2]
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Use speed 6 for all the SSR products, and 3 with exp, and 1-2 for the Mother's. Im sure I put some pressure on it, but I know not 25 lbs worth.

-Matt

And Bobby- Mine last me about 20 cars. Obviously the cutting pads will wear out faster.
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#1610985 - 07/05/07 11:32 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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I'm not familar w/the
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Poorboys EXP with gray pad.
Is this a glaze?

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#1611063 - 07/05/07 11:52 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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yes.

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#1620275 - 07/07/07 06:51 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Originally Posted By: PurduinaSi
Regular washing machine and dryer. Make sure to use NO HEAT in both. I usually run cold/cold in the washer with a little detergent as possible, and then no heat in the dryer with NO FABRIC SOFTENER.


They so make special stuff to wash your MF towels. Its called Micro-restore, and it works great. Woolite also works great for cleaning. Just be sure not to wash them with anything else. They will pick up all the lint from the other items and ruin the towel.
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#1621402 - 07/07/07 04:18 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 04silvrSI]
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More GREAT information for this WONDERFUL thread.... this should put everything into perspective for some of you n00bs \:D

http://thedetailinghandbook.com/Polish_Chart.aspx
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#1622317 - 07/07/07 10:51 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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Dang, good chart Bobby! Thanks.

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#1626183 - 07/09/07 11:47 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 04silvrSI]
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Originally Posted By: 04silvrSI
Originally Posted By: PurduinaSi
Regular washing machine and dryer. Make sure to use NO HEAT in both. I usually run cold/cold in the washer with a little detergent as possible, and then no heat in the dryer with NO FABRIC SOFTENER.


They so make special stuff to wash your MF towels. Its called Micro-restore, and it works great. Woolite also works great for cleaning. Just be sure not to wash them with anything else. They will pick up all the lint from the other items and ruin the towel.



Link to Micro-Restore?

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#1626203 - 07/09/07 11:49 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Sidenote:

I worked on my buddies hood this weekend.

SSR3 - Orange
SSR2.5 - Orange
SSR1 - Oroange
Meg's #7 Glaze - White
NXT Sealant. - Black
Natty's Carnuba - Black
Buffed w/Micro on Orange Pad.

Freakin killer when it was done. Took all the water damage off. He was very happy. Had several scratches in the paint which were removed.

Amazing setup.
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#1626468 - 07/09/07 12:56 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Dont say I didnt tell ya. :P

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#1627239 - 07/09/07 03:47 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Originally Posted By: SiAdam


Link to Micro-Restore?



Ask and you receive:

Micro-Restore at the Geek
Pinnacle MF Detergent

Here are a couple links to Autogeek showing the 2 products. The Micro Restore is on sale this week, now is the time to get it.
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#1629406 - 07/10/07 09:01 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 04silvrSI]
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Originally Posted By: 04silvrSI
Originally Posted By: SiAdam


Link to Micro-Restore?



Ask and you receive:

Micro-Restore at the Geek
Pinnacle MF Detergent

Here are a couple links to Autogeek showing the 2 products. The Micro Restore is on sale this week, now is the time to get it.



Thanks!!
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#1629411 - 07/10/07 09:03 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Originally Posted By: 2000CivicStud
Dont say I didnt tell ya. :P

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Ha ha, funny thing.

On wednesday I was going to get some fireworks. I got caught in some rain which pissed me off. Anyway...when I pulled in and got out it was barely sprinkling by then. I looked @ the car and it was dry..lol.

The rain couldn't stick to the paint and it had blown off during the drive..I looked around the parking lot and every car was soaked..here sat mine dry as could be..lol.

I laughed to myself and went inside..

The wax setup is like rain-x for your car...lol..

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#1629546 - 07/10/07 09:43 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Yep, mine is the same way. Its great stuff. \:\)

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#1638046 - 07/12/07 12:12 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Originally Posted By: SiAdam
Originally Posted By: 04silvrSI
Originally Posted By: SiAdam


Link to Micro-Restore?



Ask and you receive:

Micro-Restore at the Geek
Pinnacle MF Detergent

Here are a couple links to Autogeek showing the 2 products. The Micro Restore is on sale this week, now is the time to get it.



Thanks!!



Ordred the micro-restore as well as more of the Natty's Red Carnuba..and a yellow cutting pad...

Only pad I don't have..and I needed it last night on a vehicle..took me twice as long w/an organge..

Speaking of, I am going to post pics soon.

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#1639715 - 07/12/07 07:09 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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I would love to see pics of the Natty's Red. I haven't had a chance to use it yet, but I have heard great things about it.
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#1639776 - 07/12/07 07:26 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 04silvrSI]
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Originally Posted By: 04silvrSI
I would love to see pics of the Natty's Red. I haven't had a chance to use it yet, but I have heard great things about it.



Pics of the wax or after it's applied to a vehicle?

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#1643121 - 07/13/07 02:49 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Both.

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#1643429 - 07/13/07 04:01 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Originally Posted By: 2000CivicStud
Both.

-Matt


+1
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#1644369 - 07/13/07 10:45 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 04silvrSI]
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Both.

-Matt


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I have before..but no after...I am going to finish up the car in the next week or so..I'll have pics then.

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#1710122 - 08/01/07 08:35 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Ok, I've ordered the PC 7424 from Tools Plus and it should be in soon. I still have a little confusion over the backing plate and pads. I am primarily using the PC for waxing my tahoe as it's new and doesn't seem to have any swirls yet.

So first question, which backing plate is needed?

http://www.autogeek.net/porter-cable-7424-7336-backing-plates.html

As for the pads I am still a bit unsure still but I've seen some charts that show what type of pad is best for waxing/polishing
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#1711868 - 08/02/07 09:29 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: TallyDAWG]
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I just use the one that came w/it?

Maybe someone else can offer some better advice.

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#1712544 - 08/02/07 12:07 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SiAdam]
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It depends on what package you purchased. Do you have a link to the one you bought? The kit I bought from Autopia had a 6" flexible backing pad.

Usually the basic pad kit consists of a cutting pad, polishing pad and finishing pad. Tat's what you'd want to get polishing. Personally I've used both Sonus and Meg's softbuff pads on my PC. I like the Sonus pads alot more than the softbuff.
Here's a link to pads, etc from Autopia. If you look back in this thread you'll see a code for an additional 10% off.

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/sonussfxpads.html

Hope this has helped you some man! Good luck on the detailing.

EDIT: Since the Tahoe is new, I don't think you'd need to use the cutting pad....yet. But you will over time as swirls and scratches accumulate.
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#1714761 - 08/02/07 08:16 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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I only ordered the PC (no kit, etc) as I found it over at Tools Plus for 99$ and 6$ shipping.



Originally Posted By: SD91RS
It depends on what package you purchased. Do you have a link to the one you bought? The kit I bought from Autopia had a 6" flexible backing pad.

Usually the basic pad kit consists of a cutting pad, polishing pad and finishing pad. Tat's what you'd want to get polishing. Personally I've used both Sonus and Meg's softbuff pads on my PC. I like the Sonus pads alot more than the softbuff.
Here's a link to pads, etc from Autopia. If you look back in this thread you'll see a code for an additional 10% off.

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/sonussfxpads.html

Hope this has helped you some man! Good luck on the detailing.

EDIT: Since the Tahoe is new, I don't think you'd need to use the cutting pad....yet. But you will over time as swirls and scratches accumulate.
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#1777455 - 08/22/07 11:41 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: TallyDAWG]
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Finally got around to detailing my Firehawk...




3M Fine cut on the hood with a Meg's Cutting Pad
Meg's Swirl Remover 2.0 with a Sonus Cutting Pad
Farecla WaxTop polish with a Sonus Finishing Pad
2 coats of P21S applied and buffed off by hand.

It still has some minor scratches in the clear than I need to get out with a more aggressive compound.

Prolly should have wiped the dust off the car before I took pics...
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#1825563 - 09/05/07 10:13 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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So.... has anyone heard the rumor that The Chemical Guys are the ones who make Poor Boy's polish?
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#1825957 - 09/05/07 11:33 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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I had no idea, but I took delivery of my first poorboys products today, and used them on a customers car, and HOLY SHIT !?!?! ! lkjfdjhhaiojewlk

Black ford lightning, 1999, never been waxed, horrible shape.. big car

Came out spotless. Looks sooooo much better. I should have taken pictures but it was late and it was taking forever and it was dark and i didnt finish until 11 pm..
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#1826015 - 09/05/07 11:52 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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A buddy of mine told me some dude got banned/harassed/etc for posting that info on detailcity. One dude on autopia posted about it too.

Chemical Guys = Poor Boys
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#1826110 - 09/06/07 12:17 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SD91RS]
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Interesting....

My roommate used to work at a car wash/detailing place, and he was looking at my poorboys stuff today and smelling it and telling me that they used the same stuff at the place where he used to work. He said he'd never forget that smell. I thought it was interesting. He said they got them in huge gallon jugs and went through it like butter, and there were no labels or anything on them.
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#2249509 - 01/22/08 02:40 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: PurduinaSi]
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I've got a question for you guys... in all my years of detailing, I've never dealt with this problem before.

I got my wheels put on the car last week, and did a quick detailing today. I used the PC with Griots Machine Polish 3 on the flat surfaces, and 3M Hand Glaze everywhere else. Finished up with a coat of Blitz Wax.

One of my wheels was purchased used. The wheel looks like new, but after washing today, I noticed that it didn't have the clearcoat shine of the other wheels. The finish appears clean, but is rough, and dull. It's just a clearcoated OEM alloy wheel. I thought maybe the clearcoat had somehow been stripped by the previous owner, but I used an aggressive machine polish and did bring it back somewhat. There is a clearcoat, but it needs an aggressive polishing.

What would you guys recommend? My PC and 6 inch pads are cumbersome, and I don't think that any hand-applied product is going to get the job done. It's going to need an aggressive polish and probably some elbow grease to polish it up nicely... I have no idea what happened. The wheel looks flawless, but for some reason the clearcoat is rough and dull.
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#2250231 - 01/22/08 11:26 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SVTNate]
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Try using a Mother's Mini Powerball to attach on a drill. Use that with either metal polish, or a fine cut clear coat polish and it should bring it back!

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#2250687 - 01/22/08 02:06 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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Is it safe to use a metal polish on clearcoated alloy wheels?



This is not the problem wheel, but that's what I'm working with. Actually, from this distance, a pic of the problem wheel would look identical. The dull finish isn't something you would notice unless the wheels are spotless.
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#2250843 - 01/22/08 02:55 PM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: SVTNate]
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No, I wouldnt use a metal polish on clearcoated items such as your wheels. Just use whichever polish or wax you use on regular paint.

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#2286960 - 02/02/08 05:20 AM Re: Porter Cable 7424 Questions [Re: 2000CivicStud]
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I have a question regarding the last two stages. It seems some people are using the Klasse sealant and paste wax in different order, for example, most detailing guides says Klasse goes last, but it looks like the detailers on here prefer a coating of P21S on top of the Klasses. I would like to know what is being achieved with both methods and how do you achieve it (like how you are using the products and what pads are you using). Thanks.
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