#8247845 - 06/13/15 12:46 PM
Advice on a bike trainer?
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stickaz_old
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Most interested in something that can fool me into thinking I'm in a race? Smartphone integration? Screencast to a monitor? On my left, bro?
I'm noticing I'm not getting anywhere near the road miles in I'd like to (long term average last couple years is 50/week), I think the only way to improve given my daylight free time is a trainer sadly.
A power meter would be nice, too
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#8247859 - 06/13/15 01:08 PM
Re: Advice on a bike trainer?
[Re: Sir Ironpool]
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stickaz_old
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So just do intervals with RAD on a bigscreen in front of you? How does it set the resistance?
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#8247862 - 06/13/15 01:17 PM
Re: Advice on a bike trainer?
[Re: stickaz_old]
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SJP0tato
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Check craigslist, there's always plenty of people selling magnetic trainers & occasionally rollers in my area for 1/2 retail price barely used.
I brought it up in the cycle racing thread, but http://www.zwift.com/ is kinda fun. Requires an ant+ USB stick in your computer, a compatible trainer, and a cadence/speed sensor on your bike though. If you've got all that it's kinda neat to play around with, and is more distracting/interesting to me than watching tv or something random.
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#8247863 - 06/13/15 01:20 PM
Re: Advice on a bike trainer?
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stickaz_old
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Sweet, yea I was looking for something like that I guess, thanks!
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#8247882 - 06/13/15 01:37 PM
Re: Advice on a bike trainer?
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stickaz_old
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Cool I see like-new cycle ops fluid 2 power trainers for like $200 all over my area..
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#8247902 - 06/13/15 02:12 PM
Re: Advice on a bike trainer?
[Re: stickaz_old]
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robbbby
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I've used mag trainers and the old clutch style one up, neither compare to the kurt kinetic.
Kurt kinetic + trainerroad.com is in my opinion the best way to do indoor training. Thousands of scalable workouts, power meter, integrates with all the popular training videos like carmichael, sufferfest, spinervals, etc.
https://www.trainerroad.com/career/robbbby
I find I get a better workout on the trainer than outdoors. Outdoors i'll coast a lot more or not push since I have nothing telling me "5 more seconds". With trainerroad everything is on screen and you never want to pussy out before the interval ends. Best $90 a year IMO.
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#8249908 - 06/15/15 01:44 PM
Re: Advice on a bike trainer?
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The Mighty BellRacer
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kurt kinetic + sufferfest training videos. the kurt kinetic power curve looks like this
M/hr km/hr power (W) 1.0 1.6 5.3 2.0 3.2 10.6 3.0 4.8 16.3 4.0 6.4 22.2 5.0 8.0 28.7 6.0 9.7 35.7 7.0 11.3 43.5 8.0 12.9 52.0 9.0 14.5 61.6 10.0 16.1 72.1 11.0 17.7 83.9 12.0 19.3 96.9 13.0 20.9 111.4 14.0 22.5 127.4 15.0 24.1 145.1 16.0 25.7 164.5 17.0 27.4 185.8 18.0 29.0 209.2 19.0 30.6 234.6 20.0 32.2 262.3 21.0 33.8 292.4 22.0 35.4 324.9 23.0 37.0 360.1 24.0 38.6 397.9 25.0 40.2 438.6 26.0 41.8 482.3 27.0 43.5 529.0 28.0 45.1 578.9 29.0 46.7 632.1 30.0 48.3 688.7 31.0 49.9 748.9 32.0 51.5 812.7 33.0 53.1 880.3 34.0 54.7 951.8 35.0 56.3 1027.3 36.0 57.9 1107.0 37.0 59.5 1190.9 38.0 61.2 1279.2 39.0 62.8 1371.9 40.0 64.4 1469.3 41.0 66.0 1571.4 42.0 67.6 1678.3 43.0 69.2 1790
no need for a separate meter.
the sufferfest won't get you a ton of miles tho... the general intent is that you're nuked after an hour.
Edited by BellRacer (06/15/15 01:46 PM)
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#8250262 - 06/15/15 03:45 PM
Re: Advice on a bike trainer?
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The Mighty BellRacer
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haha i wouldn't mind the music so much if it synced with the cadence they wanted.
you can power train with sufferfest but they may only discuss that in the training programs. the 7/10 8/10 stuff actually has numerical meaning there.
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#8250375 - 06/15/15 04:36 PM
Re: Advice on a bike trainer?
[Re: The Mighty BellRacer]
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stickaz_old
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any of their training rides match up well with anything Taylor Swift-y?
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#8250495 - 06/15/15 05:47 PM
Re: Advice on a bike trainer?
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robbbby
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Bro, you know you want to trainerroad. There is even a ClubSi team!!!11
https://www.trainerroad.com/teams/289-clubsi
So much activity lol
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#8251737 - 06/16/15 01:00 PM
Re: Advice on a bike trainer?
[Re: robbbby]
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stickaz_old
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btw thanks for the many fine responses guys, I'm just trying to decide whether or not I *really* want to buy a trainer (leaning yes)
arguments for:
daylight hours I'm in my cube or if it's a weekend I'd rather be at the beach 10/10 times--this isn't going to change.
I bike commute--yay. But it's not a great workout more like for overall fitness. Watching some peers develop/surpass my bike fitness has me wondering what else I can do to keep up.. also am bike commuting only 2-3 days/week avg with updated job commitments [yes I have an on-site shower]
running is my biggest weakness and I don't mind going out for a jog in the dark in the eves but I do mind going for a bike ride in the dark--I only do it bike commuting in the winter coming home really. My long term average is ~20 miles/week and I plan on pushing this to around ~30/week as I prepare for my first marathon this year. This is squeezing out daylight bike time big time.
so most of those lead me to a trainer being a useful 1-2/day a week thing maybe doing 30-mins of intervals or related to stealthily (sp?) catch-up on the bike leg with my peers
I'm also going to get a power meter hub for my bike I guess at the same time mostly because I like data. I know I'm not fast but I like looking at #'s. What that 125 watts do?
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#8251797 - 06/16/15 01:26 PM
Re: Advice on a bike trainer?
[Re: stickaz_old]
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dirtyS13drifta
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In for later as all of this interests me.
Reason #1 for considering a trainer (and god forbid a treadmill) Parent, means being a way from house for more than 30 minutes can be a challenge. Not that I'd be happy about interruptions at home, but they're managable.
Also sub hour rides/runs don't really take me anywhere interesting. Like if I want to enjoy my routine I'm facing a 30 minute drive each way. rather than complete the 800th loop of the neighborhood(which I also walk) I might as well just rock teh garage.
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#8252120 - 06/16/15 03:36 PM
Re: Advice on a bike trainer?
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The Mighty BellRacer
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btw thanks for the many fine responses guys, I'm just trying to decide whether or not I *really* want to buy a trainer (leaning yes)
arguments for:
daylight hours I'm in my cube or if it's a weekend I'd rather be at the beach 10/10 times--this isn't going to change.
I bike commute--yay. But it's not a great workout more like for overall fitness. Watching some peers develop/surpass my bike fitness has me wondering what else I can do to keep up.. also am bike commuting only 2-3 days/week avg with updated job commitments [yes I have an on-site shower]
running is my biggest weakness and I don't mind going out for a jog in the dark in the eves but I do mind going for a bike ride in the dark--I only do it bike commuting in the winter coming home really. My long term average is ~20 miles/week and I plan on pushing this to around ~30/week as I prepare for my first marathon this year. This is squeezing out daylight bike time big time.
so most of those lead me to a trainer being a useful 1-2/day a week thing maybe doing 30-mins of intervals or related to stealthily (sp?) catch-up on the bike leg with my peers
I'm also going to get a power meter hub for my bike I guess at the same time mostly because I like data. I know I'm not fast but I like looking at #'s. What that 125 watts do?
no real reason not to get one, man. it's a great way to complement all of your other training and they're not expensive. i had/have a similar situation to dirty. sometimes i just don't want to drive/ride 30 extra minutes each way to get to the good riding area, fight cagers for lane usage, put on sunscreen, etc... if you have a ton of awesome riding in your 'hood that doesn't require any of the headache, then yeah...ymmv. the after dark riding is always a factor, tho.
it's nice to just be able to load the bike in and get an hr of good work in and be done. sometimes i don't get on the trainer until 11pm during the week...you don't have to plan your whole afternoon/evening around a 2hr weekday bike ride.
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#8252496 - 06/16/15 07:34 PM
Re: Advice on a bike trainer?
[Re: robbbby]
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stickaz_old
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fuck.jpg lol my zipp 404/188 hub wheel is definitely my fastest wheel and I dont want to be in the position of trying to race on a wheel that is slower just for power readings [although I guess if I disc cover them both very little fucking difference assuming the hub is working correctly]
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