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#8307787 - 07/28/15 01:39 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: stickaz_old]
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You should sign up for the Scott Tinley Tri in San Luis in October. I think I'm going to meet my dad and brothers there and do the off road sprint and they'll do the road half the day before.

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I love the mtbikers \:D

not that I'm anything other than mid-pack or anything but I lean into it a little extra passing mtbikes

also have fun ofc hehe \:D

[also a 70.3 will probably proper murder me, I'd be lucky to break 6 hrs I'd guess]
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#8308076 - 07/28/15 03:31 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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pacific grove international in sept is my last planned tri for the year

I've got a masters SCM swim meet to stink up that weekend [the tinley thing]
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#8308381 - 07/28/15 05:18 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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 Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom
As part of my training plan over the next 3 months to get ready for Javalina, Ivd decided to buckle down and get down to an ideal race weight. For me, I believe that's slightly lighter than my lowest (and fastest) Ironman race weight of 153. I'd really like to see 14x on the scale going into my taper. Weighed in at 168 on Sunday. Fuck.gif Reloaded myfitnesspal on the phone and plan to use it religiously. It's got me at 1300 calories a day, which seems to be pretty doable....for me it mostly involves avoiding late night snacking and making sure I take in some fuel before my runs (which are all at night while kids are out of school) so I don't go crazy pigging out afterwards.
I'm swearing off beer and any kind of candy till after the race as well. :iamhomoforusingthis:


I'm working on that myself. Couple weeks ago after a trip back home I was 175. Hitting down to 165 now. Wouldn't mind hitting under 160 but anywhere around 165 will be ok really.

What kind of mileage are you going to do? I will probably cap out with a couple of ~50 mile weeks. I just don't think my body can handle much more than that week in and week out. I'd love to figure out how some people do 35 mile weeks and do 100's, lol.

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#8308423 - 07/28/15 05:36 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Lividentity]
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I'm planning on using my Leadville approach and try to hit 3 or 4 weeks of 70 miles in the lead up to a 2 week taper. Longest run will probably only be 18 or maybe 20. I do pretty well with spreading those miles over 7 days a week doing 10 or so a day. Aerobically I have a really solid base, so I want to build up some strength to allow me to run more of those hundred than had to at Leadville. With only 5k feet of gain, there aren't going to be too many easy opportunities to walk/hike. \:D
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#8308459 - 07/28/15 06:03 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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You really only cap at 18 to 20? For Keys I did numerous marathon distance training runs and an 8 hour overnight 35 miler. Those are obviously what kills me. If I had the time each day I could probably hit 60+ a week, if I wasn't doing one day so high that I need to take the day before and after off pretty much.

I do want to try to do more runs that are for a purpose instead of runs for mileage.

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#8308480 - 07/28/15 06:18 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Lividentity]
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 Originally Posted By: Lividentity
You really only cap at 18 to 20? For Keys I did numerous marathon distance training runs and an 8 hour overnight 35 miler. Those are obviously what kills me. If I had the time each day I could probably hit 60+ a week, if I wasn't doing one day so high that I need to take the day before and after off pretty much.

I do want to try to do more runs that are for a purpose instead of runs for mileage.


Yeah, other than races leading up to it, that's it. Keep in mind that I race quite a bit. I just did a 33 miler in June, 100k in May, Boston in April, 50k in March and another in February...so that's a pretty good gauge of my fitness this year so far.
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#8308483 - 07/28/15 06:22 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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Yeah that's true. I wish I could find more trails around to run. I run on the dumb asphalt all the time. The only close trail is flat and exposed, lol Florida, so it isn't exactly enjoyable anyway.

You CA people are so lucky!

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#8308580 - 07/28/15 08:05 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Lividentity]
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To be honest, 80 percent of my miles leading up to this race will be on pavement. Kids don't go back to school till after Labor Day, so I won't be doing my usual mid-morning trail runs. Not even going to chase any vert either. I'm thinking with the nice groomed desert trails and the flatness...I doubt I'll even wear trail shoes, probably my Pearl Izumi N3's, and maybe switch to the Hokas late in the race if I need a little extra cushion.
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#8309808 - 07/29/15 02:45 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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 Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom
Keep in mind that I race quite a bit. I just did a 33 miler in June, 100k in May, Boston in April, 50k in March and another in February...so that's a pretty good gauge of my fitness this year so far.


Jebus, and you're complaining of a weight issue?


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#8309813 - 07/29/15 02:50 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Design]
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BTW, Scott Tinley Tri looks like fun...
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#8309827 - 07/29/15 02:54 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Design]
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I am actually planning on asking Liza if she thinks trail shoes are necessary. I saw some pictures with some rocks but nothing serious.

I picked this race partly because it isn't 25k feet of vert, lol. Not easily trained in FL. \:\)

There is a 46 mile fatass event on September 5th I'm debating on doing. I won't be doing it super hard but figure that's a real good training run with a 13 hour cutoff.

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#8309986 - 07/29/15 04:26 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Design]
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Lol, I love eating junk food. \:D


 Originally Posted By: Design
 Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom
Keep in mind that I race quite a bit. I just did a 33 miler in June, 100k in May, Boston in April, 50k in March and another in February...so that's a pretty good gauge of my fitness this year so far.


Jebus, and you're complaining of a weight issue?


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#8311014 - 07/30/15 11:45 AM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Lividentity]
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 Originally Posted By: Lividentity
I am actually planning on asking Liza if she thinks trail shoes are necessary. I saw some pictures with some rocks but nothing serious.

I picked this race partly because it isn't 25k feet of vert, lol. Not easily trained in FL. \:\)

There is a 46 mile fatass event on September 5th I'm debating on doing. I won't be doing it super hard but figure that's a real good training run with a 13 hour cutoff.


My last 3 pairs of shoes have been road shoes, and I do most of my running on trails. Most people don't really need trail shoes.
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#8311015 - 07/30/15 11:46 AM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Ampsman in Extremis]
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Also, 800m PR this morning. 2:32.
That fucking hurt.
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#8311034 - 07/30/15 11:58 AM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Ampsman in Extremis]
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isn't that what Impulsive's better half usually runs?
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#8311063 - 07/30/15 12:12 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: stickaz_old]
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Somehow I knew you'd be commenting, but your records aren't current. Add 20 seconds.
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#8311074 - 07/30/15 12:18 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Impulsive]
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you mad? either one is pretty fast no? sounds like a 5 flat mile pace in one and I guess a mid/high 5-minute mile the other?

I'm just jealous because I have no speed whatsoever. My 400m/440y time is straight embarassing
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#8311088 - 07/30/15 12:25 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: stickaz_old]
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DO I LOOK MAD?

I have no idea what is fast other than local track meets, I'm pretty sure I've seen a sub 2:00 and several 2:0X's.

I ran fast 600s with my wife and beat her, so I hope I could meet/beat her 800 time. I have no clue though. I tried it once with my phone and I think I was around 3 and that was just open the door, press start on my app and go and keep checking the distance to update.
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#8311102 - 07/30/15 12:31 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Impulsive]
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definitely mad
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#8311177 - 07/30/15 01:15 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Ampsman in Extremis]
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Also, 800m PR this morning. 2:32.
That fucking hurt.


Do 10 of those with a 400 break in between and you should be able to run a 2:32 road marathon. \:\)
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#8311490 - 07/30/15 03:17 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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 Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom
 Originally Posted By: ampsman
Also, 800m PR this morning. 2:32.
That fucking hurt.


Do 10 of those with a 400 break in between and you should be able to run a 2:32 road marathon. \:\)


fuck. that. shit. \:\|
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#8315557 - 08/03/15 01:42 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Ampsman in Extremis]
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earlier in the summer I was afraid I was regressing. Now I'm fairly certain I am.

friday I sumitted mt. hamilton via bike [a 60 mile long, vertical mile day] took sat off then sun had my former-routine of a long-jog.

Did a ~3-4 mile hike with ~500' of vert in the morning on sunday. not sure if mentioning this matters. was super slow

in the late afternoon I do a super slow warmup jog [2.5 mile @ 14:00/mi lol] and then do a ~7.6 mile at a reasonable effort [9:10 or so] until around mile 7 I backed off a bit because whiny

I'm sitting here at my desk monday morning and my legs are THRASHED lol \:\|

like it hurts to get off my chair

I'm a 2 on this scale

http://fellrnr.com/wiki/Delayed_Onset_Muscle_Soreness

so either I'm still fucked from Friday [Saturday I was super fine, no pain whatsoever/soreness], or I've grown another vagina
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#8315577 - 08/03/15 01:49 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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 Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom
 Originally Posted By: ampsman
Also, 800m PR this morning. 2:32.
That fucking hurt.


Do 10 of those with a 400 break in between and you should be able to run a 2:32 road marathon. \:\)

So that's a rough calculator? take you 800m intervals time and it's your approximate marathon?

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#8315583 - 08/03/15 01:51 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: stickaz_old]
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 Originally Posted By: importhondastickaz
earlier in the summer I was afraid I was regressing. Now I'm fairly certain I am.

friday I sumitted mt. hamilton via bike [a 60 mile long, vertical mile day] took sat off then sun had my former-routine of a long-jog.

Did a ~3-4 mile hike with ~500' of vert in the morning on sunday. not sure if mentioning this matters. was super slow

in the late afternoon I do a super slow warmup jog [2.5 mile @ 14:00/mi lol] and then do a ~7.6 mile at a reasonable effort [9:10 or so] until around mile 7 I backed off a bit because whiny

I'm sitting here at my desk monday morning and my legs are THRASHED lol \:\|

like it hurts to get off my chair

I'm a 2 on this scale

http://fellrnr.com/wiki/Delayed_Onset_Muscle_Soreness

so either I'm still fucked from Friday [Saturday I was super fine, no pain whatsoever/soreness], or I've grown another vagina

DOMS normally don't start for me until at least 24 hours, peak at 48, subside around 72.
Plus doms doesn't necessarily equate to weakness.

Basically you're being a whiner, but it sound slike you had a solid weekend.

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#8316331 - 08/04/15 01:36 AM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: ]
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Well, it's what you can maintain for 10x800 with a 400 rest between. They're called Yasso 800's, and the time I used them they were remarkably accurate.


 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta
 Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom
 Originally Posted By: ampsman
Also, 800m PR this morning. 2:32.
That fucking hurt.


Do 10 of those with a 400 break in between and you should be able to run a 2:32 road marathon. \:\)

So that's a rough calculator? take you 800m intervals time and it's your approximate marathon?
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#8316332 - 08/04/15 01:39 AM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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Today I signed up for 2 races. I managed to get into the Angeles Crest 100 next August. One of th most iconic and toughest hundred milers in the country.

Then this evening my buddy asked me if I wanted to carpool with him up to Malibu in 3 weeks to run the Bulldog 50k. I figured "why not." It may not be my best race, but it will fall in line nicely with pacing Ampsman at his hundred in September before running my Arizona hundred in October.
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#8316589 - 08/04/15 11:40 AM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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Nice...

Stickaz - I agree; that run probably aggravated your recovery from the hike. Sounds normal to me.


Finished another triathlon Sunday. Met some cool people who all exclaimed, "you actually biked in that thing??" Probably my last road 'race' on a mountain bike. Times haven't been posted, but I think I averaged just over 2 hrs for the 500M swim, 30K bike, and 5K run. Had a blast and will probably do again (with a proper bike lol).
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#8316631 - 08/04/15 11:57 AM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Design]
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congrats \:D

u know u have your very own tri thread here

be honest: how many times did you hear "on your left"? \:D
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#8316899 - 08/04/15 02:03 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: stickaz_old]
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Way, way too many times.
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#8316960 - 08/04/15 02:46 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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 Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom
Today I signed up for 2 races. I managed to get into the Angeles Crest 100 next August. One of th most iconic and toughest hundred milers in the country.

Then this evening my buddy asked me if I wanted to carpool with him up to Malibu in 3 weeks to run the Bulldog 50k. I figured "why not." It may not be my best race, but it will fall in line nicely with pacing Ampsman at his hundred in September before running my Arizona hundred in October.


Nice, AC! I bet that will be epic. And some tune up races/pacing, that's awesome. You'll be having a good Fall I think. I'll be ding my Javelina training running in circles around my neighborhood, lol. I might actually branch out some, maybe even run on the beach some!

I skipped my run yesterday because of a 14 hour work day. I also didn't have a run on Sunday, having 2 days without a run hasn't happened like in forever so it was weird, lol. Ultimately, just pushing back yesterday's run to today, and then today's to tomorrow to fill in that off day. So 2 days off running followed by 6 days in a row of running, lol. Most are just short ones though, so won't be bad.

Hit 151 miles last month, probably go up from there this month and September and then October drop some again to taper into Javelina.

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#8321749 - 08/07/15 12:29 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Lividentity]
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It feels good to be training with a purpose again. I decided to add in the 25 mile option when I'm up to pace Ampsman at the Headlands Hundred. This way I'll be able to reign him in on the first 25 mile loop, while getting my own long run in at the same time. Then I'll pace him for his last loop. Should be a nice little weekend!
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#8321798 - 08/07/15 01:00 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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when is that? /might spectate
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#8322114 - 08/07/15 05:21 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: stickaz_old]
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Sep 12/13.

Edited by Mrs. Ironmom (08/07/15 05:21 PM)
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#8323338 - 08/09/15 12:55 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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42 miles on the treadmill this week.
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#8323343 - 08/09/15 01:08 PM Re: Running/Cardio Thread [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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You're a psychopath good sir. I did 37 all on the roads in Florida heat, so I have lots of room to talk! Haha.
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