#8102025 - 02/20/15 07:13 PM
Solar going mainstream vBuyOrRentOutYourRoof
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furball
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Got this in the mail ... http://www.feedTheGrid.ca ...
They have a few options, finance, or 'rent' your roof to them...
HURRY, OPERATORS ARE STANDING BY, THIS IS A LIMITED TIME OFFER!
2 options:
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#8102186 - 02/20/15 09:17 PM
Re: Solar going mainstream vBuyOrRentOutYourRoof
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zc911
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This has been going on for years. It's a bit late though to get in, the price per kw is pretty low now. I started looking at solar because i was going to rent my roof, but i ended up buying the system instead. The ROI is high and it's pretty much guaranteed. I would not recommend renting your roof at all. If you are going to do it, outlay the cash and buy your system, its the only way you are going to make money.
Edited by zc911 (02/20/15 09:19 PM)
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#8102615 - 02/21/15 09:25 AM
Re: Solar going mainstream vBuyOrRentOutYourRoof
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furball
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So... how does this feeding-of-the-grid work? Let's assume I bought my own shit.
- I have a buncha panels on the roof, buncha batteries in the basement, all wiring done with permits, yadda yadda yadda...
- I'm guessing since the rest of my electrical in the home remains the same, I continue to 'live on the grid', i.e. I'm using electricity from the utility company, but at the same time, have another line going BACK to them? So, net net, my bills would be lower because I'm still using XXX kilowatts, but I'm also feeding back YY kilowatts...
Hrm... reading bits 'n pieces of the huge solar install thread in OT... That guy doesn't have a bank of batteries, so he's generating and using in real-time; anything he doesn't use in real-time goes straight back into the grid...
Edited by furball (02/21/15 09:40 AM)
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#8102657 - 02/21/15 10:42 AM
Re: Solar going mainstream vBuyOrRentOutYourRoof
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Euphoricuck
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And... as an aside... What's the opinions around Tesla and the 'Home Battery'? nothing
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#8102736 - 02/21/15 12:31 PM
Re: Solar going mainstream vBuyOrRentOutYourRoof
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zc911
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oh the only issues i've had where animal related. Stupid squirels! They got under the panels 3 times. First time, no damange paid $150 to have them removed. Second time i rented a lader, went up and evicted them. Third time i went up again and snagged a wire while poking the nest out, DOH! I ordered a squriel guard and had it installed, the tech also checked out all the wirirng and repalced a huge bundle of it where the little bastards munched on it! The system has been working so good after those wires where repalced haha
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#8102760 - 02/21/15 12:53 PM
Re: Solar going mainstream vBuyOrRentOutYourRoof
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zc911
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you guys do, thanks
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#8102991 - 02/21/15 07:16 PM
Re: Solar going mainstream vBuyOrRentOutYourRoof
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furball
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Found a pretty good blog that's local-based.
http://www.yourturn.ca/solar/
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#8103012 - 02/21/15 08:08 PM
Re: Solar going mainstream vBuyOrRentOutYourRoof
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Wildout
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So... how does this feeding-of-the-grid work? Let's assume I bought my own shit.
- I have a buncha panels on the roof, buncha batteries in the basement, all wiring done with permits, yadda yadda yadda...
- I'm guessing since the rest of my electrical in the home remains the same, I continue to 'live on the grid', i.e. I'm using electricity from the utility company, but at the same time, have another line going BACK to them? So, net net, my bills would be lower because I'm still using XXX kilowatts, but I'm also feeding back YY kilowatts...
Hrm... reading bits 'n pieces of the huge solar install thread in OT... That guy doesn't have a bank of batteries, so he's generating and using in real-time; anything he doesn't use in real-time goes straight back into the grid...
If you bought your own shit to live off grid the costs of batteries for a typical 3 day standby & lack of reimbursement for the utility company make it stupid to do so as the roi jumps to something stupid like 35 years since you screw yourself in the summer once you turn on the a/c etc etc
The way you want to do it is sign on for a microfit contract (20 years guaranteed) from the government.
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#8103203 - 02/22/15 07:02 AM
Re: Solar going mainstream vBuyOrRentOutYourRoof
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zc911
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Actually I think the main reason they did this was to promote green energy and create jobs. Just before I gt my contact I believe there was an uproar about these solar contracts and why the government was spending so much money on them when OntArio already produces more electricity than we use.
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#8103208 - 02/22/15 07:14 AM
Re: Solar going mainstream vBuyOrRentOutYourRoof
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zc911
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Sorry my contract is 80.6 cents
Here is an article about ontarios energy issues http://m.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-b...?service=mobile
There where even better ones but Google is letting me down
To tell you the truth I think the whole microfit and FIT ideas are pretty stupid in terms of actually helping the province. We didn't need all these green ideas for electricity when we have so many issues with the system as is. Now the ontario government has all these guaranteed contracts to buy energy at stupid high prices, for what? I didn't do it for any green reason, I did it for free money, it's not often the government just hands it out lol
Edited by zc911 (02/22/15 07:21 AM)
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#8103209 - 02/22/15 07:26 AM
Re: Solar going mainstream vBuyOrRentOutYourRoof
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zc911
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zc your contract is for almost 10x what we pay for electricity. WTF?!?! Why? Who's subsidizing this? I don't understand the way it is here locally but that sounds crazy. How long is that rate good for? 20 years. The reason the government does this is at the time & I believe currently its still cheaper than buying electricity from Quebec or the States for high peak times, then selling them back at a loss to them. This is the reason why people that have the money lease rooftops. Where other in the world do you have a guaranteed return on your invest with a contract for the government. You may be paying the owners, but I know of a guy that came from Germany where solar was started first and was somehow able to get investors to give him a ton of money. He then went and leased every commercial building that would allow it & maxed out his investment money. Something like 1M, he paid that back under 5 years including paying the owners for the leased roof etc. He has 15 years of profit and retired under 40....he's on track to make 10M.
I should have done the same haha. I learned a lot when I did mine and I should not have wasted the knowledge. I should have put it to good use and figured out a way to do the same. But I never really thought about it at the time. I learned about it from a friends brother and was skeptical at first, and then did my own calculations and was sold. Ah well. Good for that dude! He did the right thing (obviously) lol
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#8103824 - 02/22/15 10:11 PM
Re: Solar going mainstream vBuyOrRentOutYourRoof
[Re: zc911]
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Wildout
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Sorry my contract is 80.6 cents Here is an article about ontarios energy issues http://m.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-b...?service=mobileThere where even better ones but Google is letting me down To tell you the truth I think the whole microfit and FIT ideas are pretty stupid in terms of actually helping the province. We didn't need all these green ideas for electricity when we have so many issues with the system as is. Now the ontario government has all these guaranteed contracts to buy energy at stupid high prices, for what? I didn't do it for any green reason, I did it for free money, it's not often the government just hands it out lol
I fully agree, it's dumb as hell on the governments end to subsidies it. Makes no sense to for the bottomline.
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