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| #7901356 - 10/07/14 09:58 PM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| LNXGUY     Post Master Supreme
 
 
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That's some final destination typing thinking, but I guess that's your opinion.  Like it was mentioned, steroids are legal in other parts of the world.  I'd like to see the number of deaths due to 'irresponsible use'...   Google how many  wwf wrestlers from the 90’s have died.  
 Again, that's the extreme side of things.  Look up heroin users and see how many of them have died.  Same shit.  There are extremes of everything that eventually will kill you.
 
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| #7901362 - 10/07/14 09:58 PM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| LNXGUY     Post Master Supreme
 
 
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Just because something doesn't kill you doesn't mean it can't permanently fuck you up.
 Again, this is irresponsible use.
 Irresponsible use would be grabbing whatever and jabbing it into your leg without any research beforehand.  I think some of you guys forget testosterone is a naturally occurring substance in the body.
 
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| #7901389 - 10/07/14 10:08 PM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| Silock   Post Master Supreme
 
 
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Just because something doesn't kill you doesn't mean it can't permanently fuck you up.
 Again, this is irresponsible use.
Irresponsible use would be grabbing whatever and jabbing it into your leg without any research beforehand.  I think some of you guys forget testosterone is a naturally occurring substance in the body.   
 Just because it's natural doesn't mean it can't hurt you to have too much from an outside source.  In other words, just because some is good doesn't mean more is better, at least not strictly speaking.
 
 And yeah, just taking whatever at whatever dosage is irresponsible.  But it happens a LOT.  Just look at the forums of guys going "Hey, I've been on this cycle for 3 months and I'm having this problem."  And what they're taking is totally crazy, and it gets pointed out, and hopefully they make a change.
 
 Again, I'm not against steroids.  I'm simply pointing out that there is a legitimate reason for them to be a controlled substance.  Not having a doctor supervise is a gamble because not every cycle or stack works for everyone in the same way.
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| #7901390 - 10/07/14 10:08 PM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| CrazeD   Post Master Supreme
 
 
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Just because something doesn't kill you doesn't mean it can't permanently fuck you up.
 Again, this is irresponsible use.
Irresponsible use would be grabbing whatever and jabbing it into your leg without any research beforehand.  I think some of you guys forget testosterone is a naturally occurring substance in the body.   
 Precisely ..
 
 No need for a healthy person to inject more
   
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| #7901394 - 10/07/14 10:10 PM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| LNXGUY     Post Master Supreme
 
 
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 Again, I'm not against steroids.  I'm simply pointing out that there is a legitimate reason for them to be a controlled substance.  Not having a doctor supervise is a gamble because not every cycle or stack works for everyone in the same way.
 Agreed 100%.
 
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| #7901418 - 10/07/14 10:19 PM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| Euphoricuck   Post Master Supreme
 
 
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 In Canada, anabolic steroids and their derivatives are part of the Controlled drugs and substances act and are Schedule IV substances, meaning that it is illegal to obtain or sell them without a prescription; however, possession is not punishable, a consequence reserved for schedule I, II or III substances
 
 The only reason they were ever made illegal in the usa is because of sports propaganda. Not because of any health concerns. There have never been any studies done on long term effects ..since illegal it would be "unethical"  so all you have is somewhat anecdotal evidence. Can and do people die , sure? people die from cigarettes and alcohol too.
 
 Wrestlers are a poor sample to look at. On top of well known grueling travel schedules, there is a lot of other drugs and alcohol in that game. So many other important factors in their lifestyles to chalk up any deaths purely to steroid use. It seems in most "steroid" deaths there are other important factors which are ignored. Its a nice skapegoat though.
 
 
 Are nfl players dropping left and right from steroid use? nba? mlb? Track athletes etc?
 How is Arnold doing?
 
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| #7901433 - 10/07/14 10:27 PM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| NavyNuts   Forgot my meds
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Just because something doesn't kill you doesn't mean it can't permanently fuck you up.
 Again, this is irresponsible use.
Irresponsible use would be grabbing whatever and jabbing it into your leg without any research beforehand.  I think some of you guys forget testosterone is a naturally occurring substance in the body.   
 Thank god for responsible steroid users, its the irresponsible ones that makes steroids look bad.
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| #7901451 - 10/07/14 10:38 PM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| MurderHornetVR6   Post Master Supreme
 
 
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how can the sauciers be responsible when they can't add?
 
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| #7901581 - 10/08/14 12:44 AM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| #7901585 - 10/08/14 12:48 AM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| CrazeD   Post Master Supreme
 
 
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 lol clearly you have NO clue. 
 What are the tell tale signs there that I'm missing?  He looks like a dude that lifts a lot of heavy heights and eats a lot of steaks and shit.
 
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| #7901587 - 10/08/14 12:50 AM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| Joeyballs   Post Master Supreme
 
 
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https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10351374_818108721554401_2878971390459378832_n.jpg?oh=da000d0cbbdb250bf1e173b190baff11&oe=54AA9404
 Lol is that real???
 
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| #7901741 - 10/08/14 08:27 AM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| Risky Business   Post Master Supreme
 
 
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 NATURAL wow |  
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| #7901745 - 10/08/14 08:28 AM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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 This is closer to natural...and it probably still isn't, lol neck.
 
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| #7901751 - 10/08/14 08:32 AM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| Euphoricuck   Post Master Supreme
 
 
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 lol clearly you have NO clue. What are the tell tale signs there that I'm missing?  He looks like a dude that lifts a lot of heavy heights and eats a lot of steaks and shit.His traps and shoulders for one thing. Both much larger than anyone can attain naturally. Combined with his overall mass and thickness. None of which can be done clean.
 He also deadlifts like 900+lbs.
 
 
 Want to see what the body can do naturally? Google Eugen Sandow
 
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| #7901753 - 10/08/14 08:32 AM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| LNXGUY     Post Master Supreme
 
 
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That guy has some great genetics, roids or not.
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| #7901768 - 10/08/14 08:38 AM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| LNXGUY     Post Master Supreme
 
 
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That guy has some great genetics, roids or not. All except his face.     
 Were you thinking of making out with him?
 
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| #7901787 - 10/08/14 08:48 AM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| LNXGUY     Post Master Supreme
 
 
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Why would I lie?  I did two cycles back in the day when I was 21-22? So 15+ years ago?   You seem upset about something, you wanna share with the rest of the class?
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| #7901792 - 10/08/14 08:50 AM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| TenTwelve   Fly-over Bottom
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That guy has some great genetics, roids or not. All except his face.     Were you thinking of making out with him? 
 Well, yeah... Look at his body.
 
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| #7901793 - 10/08/14 08:51 AM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| It's Art   Bitch of the Deer
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I've called you on this in the past too. I don't think anyone should be taking fitness (nevermind steroid) advice from you.     |  
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| #7901805 - 10/08/14 08:55 AM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| LNXGUY     Post Master Supreme
 
 
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I've called you on this in the past too. I don't think anyone should be taking fitness (nevermind steroid) advice from you.     
 Calling me out for what exactly?  Lying about doing a few cycles of steroids?  Why in the world would I ever make that up?  I'm not giving anyone fitness advice in this thread.  Just sharing my experiences, that's it.
 
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| #7901816 - 10/08/14 09:03 AM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| LNXGUY     Post Master Supreme
 
 
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Well while this thread goes 10 pages of you singing the praises of steroid use I just think we should all stop and think about who and where this steroid support is coming from. I think you should stick to fishing threads bro.  
 Personal experiences, nothing more, nothing less.
 
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| #7901821 - 10/08/14 09:07 AM  Re: steroid use at your gym
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| LNXGUY     Post Master Supreme
 
 
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Ares has personal experience too  
 Great?
 
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