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prevalent? no? there are maybe ten high school kids here that are fucking stacked. little necks, 5' nothing, pumpkin delts, like bigger than their heads. hopefully they sterlilize themselves |
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There's a few at Planet Fitness, less < 1%. One guy in particular is on the short side but jacked like a pro wrestler. Big fish, little pond? |
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Outside of maybe a couple trainers/bros I don't think anyone at my gym is juicing. I go to a smaller gym, though. |
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All over the place here. Got offered alot during summer. Fkrs try and make it out to be no big deal. Huge dudez though. |
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My city seems to have a trend where one gym is where all the juicers go, then after so long they move to a different gym because it's the place to be for whatever reason. My gym is the once to be right now apparently, in almost 5 years of going I've never seen so many juicers aty gym before, annoying sometimes but overall entertaining |
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Originally Posted By: BaefyBaef They're lifting heavy, you're not? they are lifting light, which cements the theory hang on bro I gotta bench 100lbs |
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Do a good stack, you'll love it guaranteed. |
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How can you tell if someone is juicing? |
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Originally Posted By: Monarchcx How can you tell if someone is juicing? They double in size and call everybody 'brah' |
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Quite a few. See these canon ball delt and big traps lifting the same pussy shit year after year yet they look jacked. There are a few doing it right though and have some amazing strength. One guy I know went from around 220 to 270 in like 6 months lol totally natty bro. |
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My clubhouse has a decent gym with a real squat rack and barely any people, so I've been going there since I just got back into lifting. Eventually I'll have to hit a regular gym again. My last gym had about 5 juicers. One of them held a power lifting record for a few years. The others were bodybuilder types. |
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You can also smell when someone is on a cycle as well. Pretty easily I might add. |
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Too many brown guys masking that |
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I work out at home and I was on steroids for a misdiagnosed hand injury. Does that count? |
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Originally Posted By: Euphoric Too many brown guys masking that |
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yeah, it's all over the gym with the 20-25 yo crowd. All these kids do it wrong though. Bloated/fat with face/back acne. They think they look good cause their stocky but really they just look like shit. Actual steroid use, by guys that look awesome and know what they're doing is rare. Usually those dudes are in their mid 30's. Disclaimer: I haven't been to the gym in over a year |
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I don't see it at my local Y |
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Dont really see anyone I suspect of being on anything at the 24 hour fitness around here. I assume the big guys got that way because they put in work. I see so many people at the gym that are just there eating up space, putting up 135 and just wasting time. If those people actually decided that they wanted to even lift, they'd be as big as those who they accuse of being on roids. Brofessor sums it up here... "Everyone is on Juice" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXiYC1ebkwc#t=35s |
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Plenty here at LA fitness, I am going to go on a limb and say that it's a lot more harder to find someone who isn't juicing. I only know this because I know the guy that sells to the whole gym |
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Originally Posted By: BaefyBaef They're lifting heavy, you're not? /thread |
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Half of my gym is on something. It's ridiculous. |
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Originally Posted By: Joeyballs Disclaimer: I haven't been to the gym in over a year How do you maintain your sexy? (no homo) |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: BaefyBaef They're lifting heavy, you're not? /thread steroids: hidden in sour patch kids |
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op is like, people in the gym lifting weights look weird, but first let me give you guys a bicep shot |
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Originally Posted By: 137 op is like, people in the gym lifting weights look weird, but first let me give you guys a bicep shot six years of dieting: |
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Originally Posted By: CrazeD_Z06 Dont really see anyone I suspect of being on anything at the 24 hour fitness around here. I assume the big guys got that way because they put in work. I see so many people at the gym that are just there eating up space, putting up 135 and just wasting time. If those people actually decided that they wanted to even lift, they'd be as big as those who they accuse of being on roids. To be fair, not everyone is there to bulk. I do the basics to maintain conditioning during my longer training runs. Back squats and deadlifts have made a huge difference in my recovery. Got approached by a group of snarky kids once about it. As I walked to the treadmill I responded, "ask me again in 90 minutes when I'm done here." They pretty much shut up after that. |
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Lolz at 137 vs killerbee |
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Originally Posted By: BellRacer Lolz at 137 vs killerbee He had to drag his red cooter into this. |
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I would think this is a problem which money has a cure for...not sure why Op suffers this indignity. |
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Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta I would think this is a solution which money has a cure for...not sure why it's Op suffers this indignity. Are you drunk |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta I would think this is a solution which money has a cure for...not sure why it's Op suffers this indignity. Are you drunk buzzed, yes, thanks for noticing! |
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I see guys blood doping at the trailhead daily. |
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No one juicing in my gym, except when oz jr wanders in with his oj. Come to think of it, he's been mean muggin me lately. Guess I'm gonna have to slap two plates on and make him listen to them CLANK. Show his 3yr old punkazz. |
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Originally Posted By: Joeyballs yeah, it's all over the gym with the 20-25 yo crowd. All these kids do it wrong though. Bloated/fat with face/back acne. They think they look good cause their stocky but really they just look like shit. Actual steroid use, by guys that look awesome and know what they're doing is rare. Usually those dudes are in their mid 30's. Disclaimer: I haven't been to the gym in over a year That's because 90% (I made that up) of the guys out there who cycle never use post cycle therapy and use roids over 15% body fat. |
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The gym I used to work at had a huge clientele of juicers - including a lot of the trainers. Back in the day, the men's change room had a safe disposal box for all of the needles |
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Or they're just popping dbols like it's going out of style, lol. There are all kinds of good steroids that don't bloat you up (Deca, Winstrol, etc) that will also help you get pretty cut. I think a lot of guys don't take the time to do things properly. |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Originally Posted By: 137 op is like, people in the gym lifting weights look weird, but first let me give you guys a bicep shot six years of dieting: |
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Originally Posted By: Monarchcx How can you tell if someone is juicing? Steroid use is far more common than I bet a lot of people think. I work at home but my old gym had a few I was convinced were on them. A lot of people never grow at all because they lift incorrectly or too light. KB and 137, lol...too different guys. 1 strong and chubby and another weak and skinny. Not sure why you guys even care. |
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Everyone at my gym looks like this, and i'm convinced that's where they got their muscle (the yard): |
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Slim at mine, hipsters and artsy fucks. There is this one jacked old legend who can move some serious weight for his age. He's been on/off for years. Pretty much...if you suspect someone is on, mostly likely they are. The puffy dude bros ran rampant at my gyms in college. |
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When i went to the local muscle mecca it was pretty much 50-60% of the people in there had some PED going on. Now i am just at a local anytime fitness and i while there is only about 40 regulars i see in there on a weekly basis. There is probably 5-8 that are heavy users. It is extremely common in my area. Another tip off. Tiny bald/balding heads. |
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Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Pretty much...if you suspect someone is on, mostly likely they are. The puffy dude bros ran rampant at my gyms in college. Humans just don't get that big naturally, especially amateurs. This guy probably has the smallest nuts in the world. |
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It's usually obvious if they are juicing. There is a certain thickness where someone doesn't really get to naturally. It is very common to see a bloated looking gut too. They can have a 6-pack, but their stomachs stick out quite a bit. Many people are just used to years of Muscle and Fitness with a jacked guy on the cover claiming to be all natural when he was anything but, so they think people can look like that with just hard work/diet. I think juicing is just becoming incredibly common now too. My wife works with a guy who has a scrawny SO. He just deciding one day he was going to juice and workout lol Ares. Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Or they're just popping dbols like it's going out of style, lol. There are all kinds of good steroids that don't bloat you up (Deca, Winstrol, etc) that will also help you get pretty cut. I think a lot of guys don't take the time to do things properly. This is one of the reason it never insterested me. I have no clue what to do. Plus, like most illegal things, I'd have to find a dealer for it and trust the product was safe. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Pretty much...if you suspect someone is on, mostly likely they are. The puffy dude bros ran rampant at my gyms in college. Humans just don't get that big naturally, especially amateurs. This guy probably has the smallest nuts in the world. I met Jay once at a show, relaxed and not competing. When RELAXED, you could drive a Prius through the veins in his forearms. You get used to looking at pictures of these guys, but it's just inhuman in person. Oh, and Ronnie Coleman is literally half the size he was when competing: http://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/r...n-mumbai-india/ |
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Wow, Ronnie looks weird. |
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He's 50, to be expected from a deflated juicer I guess. Those forearms are still nasty strong looking. |
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Funny thing is, he might have come back since then. I don't follow it that closely. I can't imagine doing anything that extreme to my body, even if I could. I think one of the most valuable "skills" the top level guys have is their constitution. Most of us would probably drop over dead if we used like these guys use. Ha. |
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Not too many at my gym that I can pick out. It's yuppie heaven just east of one of the wealthiest parts of town so it's full of hot mommies and college chicks. There is one dude who's 65+ and has the gnarliest most cut arms I've seen with a vein the size of my aorta running down his bicep. |
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I assume he's competing still? With other older guys, I would guess. Yeah, the white dude just drinks shakes and eats bananas. lol I srsly doubt he can grab his penis. |
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I doubt Coleman is doing anything these days except for getting paid to be Ronnie Coleman. |
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I workout too early in the AM to see anybody that fits the bill (there's only a handful of people working out, most using cardio machines). In the event that I workout in the evening when it's crowded I see some questionable folks, but even then, I'm not sure...no one that really sticks out as an obvious juice-head. |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Originally Posted By: 137 op is like, people in the gym lifting weights look weird, but first let me give you guys a bicep shot six years of dieting: Say brah, at least post a recent picture. |
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To answer the question, single digit % users during prime time at my big box gym. At odd workout times, you see older clearly wealthy guys who are jacked/lean who I suspect are using. But, hey, good on them. I might be there some day. They lookin' good. |
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137 blows my mind. The dedication to gross baffles me. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnNYTMExApI&feature=youtu.be |
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a little trt may not be a bad thing |
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Originally Posted By: Euphoric a little trt may not be a bad thing No doubt. No judgement here. I'm not even kidding, I don't want to fall off when I get older. Meanwhile, it seems to be moving more and more into the mainstream. Almost boutique-like. If they get it down to a science, sign me up. I need to be 60 and flexin' on niggaz. |
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Originally Posted By: Euphoric One guy I know went from around 220 to 270 in like 6 months lol totally natty bro. Peanut butter and egg whites, brah. |
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Maybe he was the guy who "got too big" when he started lifting weights? You guys know what I'm talking about. "I want to start lifting, but I don't want to get too big." "OK bro, get started and we'll keep on eye on you to make sure your muscles don't get too out of hand too quickly....." |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Originally Posted By: Euphoric a little trt may not be a bad thing No doubt. No judgement here. I'm not even kidding, I don't want to fall off when I get older. Meanwhile, it seems to be moving more and more into the mainstream. Almost boutique-like. If they get it down to a science, sign me up. I need to be 60 and flexin' on niggaz. But small nuts, rage and acne and later more health problems? No thx. |
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Johnso, stop being a pussy and just get on some hgh. OB1, why are you worried about the small nuts? You've mentioned it like 3 times already. |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Maybe he was the guy who "got too big" when he started lifting weights? You guys know what I'm talking about. "I want to start lifting, but I don't want to get too big." "OK bro, get started and we'll keep on eye on you to make sure your muscles don't get too out of hand too quickly....." |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Maybe he was the guy who "got too big" when he started lifting weights? You guys know what I'm talking about. "I want to start lifting, but I don't want to get too big." "OK bro, get started and we'll keep on eye on you to make sure your muscles don't get too out of hand too quickly....." |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY OB1, why are you worried about the small nuts? You've mentioned it like 3 times already. It's a roid side effect. This is a roid discussion. |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Johnso, stop being a pussy and just get on some hgh. Someday I just might. Right now, I'm still good to go. Meanwhile, I'd have to enlist a real doctor that's HOPEFULLY on the up and up by that time. |
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hCG, 250IU - 500IU 2x a week should minimize testicular atrophy. http://www.defymedical.com/resources/hea...sterone-therapy |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: LNXGUY OB1, why are you worried about the small nuts? You've mentioned it like 3 times already. It's a roid side effect. This is a roid discussion. I know it's a side effect, but are you staring at your nuts everyday to even notice? You know what else is a side effect? A better sex drive and more blood volume (you can figure out the rest I'm sure..but here's a hint think about the penis) |
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lol better sex drive while losing your hardon and shrinking your nuts. That sounds like torture. |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Maybe he was the guy who "got too big" when he started lifting weights? You guys know what I'm talking about. "I want to start lifting, but I don't want to get too big." "OK bro, get started and we'll keep on eye on you to make sure your muscles don't get too out of hand too quickly....." |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped lol better sex drive while losing your hardon and shrinking your nuts. That sounds like torture. How are you losing your hardon with all that extra blood volume (up to 20% if I'm not mistaken?) Magic? You fuck like a porn star when on the sauce, ask the guys that have done it |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Originally Posted By: Flipped lol better sex drive while losing your hardon and shrinking your nuts. That sounds like torture. How are you losing your hardon with all that extra blood volume (up to 20% if I'm not mistaken?) Magic? You fuck like a porn star when on the sauce, ask the guys that have done it people with no experience with steroids talking about the side effects... lelz. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Originally Posted By: Flipped lol better sex drive while losing your hardon and shrinking your nuts. That sounds like torture. How are you losing your hardon with all that extra blood volume (up to 20% if I'm not mistaken?) Magic? You fuck like a porn star when on the sauce, ask the guys that have done it people with no experience with steroids talking about the side effects... lelz. |
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You always seem to be pushing the gear hard, LNXGUY. Why tho? Meanwhile, you're sitting in a boat staring at nothing. |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Originally Posted By: Flipped lol better sex drive while losing your hardon and shrinking your nuts. That sounds like torture. How are you losing your hardon with all that extra blood volume (up to 20% if I'm not mistaken?) Magic? You fuck like a porn star when on the sauce, ask the guys that have done it But while others are using them to get lean too, their body also shuts down "nonessential functions". And there's this. Quote: Much has been mentioned about the effects steroids have on the body. When taken in high amounts, steroids cause the testosterone level to fluctuate and this can lead to a number of sexual dysfunctions including erectile dysfunction. This is so because the body produces hormones similar to steroids in the reproductive organ of a man. When steroids are used it tends to cause the body to stop producing the hormones and this will lead, in some men, to a temporary if not full loss of the ability to have and keep an erection. |
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Originally Posted By: CrazeD_Z06 Dont really see anyone I suspect of being on anything at the 24 hour fitness around here. I assume the big guys got that way because they put in work. I see so many people at the gym that are just there eating up space, putting up 135 and just wasting time. If those people actually decided that they wanted to even lift, they'd be as big as those who they accuse of being on roids. Brofessor sums it up here... "Everyone is on Juice" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXiYC1ebkwc#t=35s Some people are happy maintaining multiple sets of 20 or more reps at 135. Maybe their goal isn't how much they can lift but some other sort of fitness measurement. |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 You always seem to be pushing the gear hard, LNXGUY. Why tho? Meanwhile, you're sitting in a boat staring at nothing. I've done cycles in the past, I know the side effects good and bad.. It's not all shrunken balls and roid rage (as I'm sure you know) |
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Originally Posted By: President Dope! Everyone at my gym looks like this, and i'm convinced that's where they got their muscle (the yard): |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Originally Posted By: Johnso26 You always seem to be pushing the gear hard, LNXGUY. Why tho? Meanwhile, you're sitting in a boat staring at nothing. I've done cycles in the past, I know the side effects good and bad.. It's not all shrunken balls and roid rage (as I'm sure you know) Results pics? I trust this wasn't an Ares situation (which might have been the cluster fuck that literally dragged me into OT from SvA). |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Maybe for some. But while others are using them to get lean too, their body also shuts down "nonessential functions". Well no shit, did Google help you with out with mindblowing fact? I'll give you 30 mins to become a SME on the subject, then you can school us all, lol. |
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I live in sd, I'd say a majority at my old gym (24 hr lol) were on something. |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Originally Posted By: Flipped Maybe for some. But while others are using them to get lean too, their body also shuts down "nonessential functions". Well no shit, did Google help you with out with mindblowing fact? I'll give you 30 mins to become a SME on the subject, then you can school us all, lol. It was enough to dismantle your claim and your weak anecdotal evidence. |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Maybe he was the guy who "got too big" when he started lifting weights? You guys know what I'm talking about. "I want to start lifting, but I don't want to get too big." "OK bro, get started and we'll keep on eye on you to make sure your muscles don't get too out of hand too quickly....." My biggest pet peeve. "Oh shit, I got too big - whatever shall I do!" Ditto goes for women who think doing some weights = veiny clenis muscles. |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Originally Posted By: Johnso26 You always seem to be pushing the gear hard, LNXGUY. Why tho? Meanwhile, you're sitting in a boat staring at nothing. I've done cycles in the past, I know the side effects good and bad.. It's not all shrunken balls and roid rage (as I'm sure you know) Results pics? I trust this wasn't an Ares situation (which might have been the cluster fuck that literally dragged me into OT from SvA). This was a long time ago, over 15 years if I do my math correctly. Had a buddy who was in the game, did it right, loved it. At my leanest I was 205-210 at about 8-10%? Not shredded by any means. Now? 240lbs and I really need to get back into the gym |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Originally Posted By: Flipped Maybe for some. But while others are using them to get lean too, their body also shuts down "nonessential functions". Well no shit, did Google help you with out with mindblowing fact? I'll give you 30 mins to become a SME on the subject, then you can school us all, lol. It was enough to dismantle your claim and your weak anecdotal evidence. This is why people get sick of you. You can never admit to not being knowledgeable on a subject. Just give it a rest. You can keep doing Google searches until you're blue in the face, you're just making yourself look like the dumbass here. |
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Oh its personal attack time? You're entire argument rests on "I've done cycles" and the web searches on medical data is wrong? I see you edited the personal attack calling me short. I'm not saying I am an expert. I even said that I had to Google it. But please...prove me wrong instead of getting angry. EDIT 2...JFC how many times are you going to edit? |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Oh its personal attack time? You're entire argument rests on "I've done cycles" and the web searches on medical data is wrong? Your entire argument is plucking single factoids from Google. You can twist those any way you want to try and prove your point. So you're telling me what I experienced and what my buddies did is.....untrue? Maybe some other members that have done cycles will pipe up, I'm willing to bet they'll be in line with me. :EDIT: Personal attack removed, not usually my thing apologies. |
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Originally Posted By: zones aaaaannnnnddddd there goes another thread. I've learned later because he took it personally. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: zones aaaaannnnnddddd there goes another thread. I've learned later because he took it personally. I'm just saying the nut shrinking seems like a huge deal, but it's really not. It's your nuts, they are still there when it's all said and done I just see more positives then negatives. |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Originally Posted By: Flipped Oh its personal attack time? You're entire argument rests on "I've done cycles" and the web searches on medical data is wrong? Your entire argument is plucking single factoids from Google. You can twist those any way you want to try and prove your point. So you're telling me what I experienced and what my buddies did is.....untrue? Maybe some other members that have done cycles will pipe up, I'm willing to bet they'll be in line with me. :EDIT: Personal attack removed, not usually my thing apologies. I even said "maybe to some" in response to your "fuck like a porn" comment. Are you aware that results vary per person and dosage and quality? Like any drug? |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Oh its personal attack time? You're entire argument rests on "I've done cycles" and the web searches on medical data is wrong? heh, i've challenged fitness thread mentalities by requesting medical evidence and was told it didn't apply... |
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When will you start your new fat shredding cycle? |
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Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC I'm curious as to when HGH will be legal? |
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Ob1, you're using steroids as a blanket term for everything. Each steroid produces different positive and negative side effects. Some steroids make you very sexually active such as testosterone, some decrease your sex drive such as deca. Each one is completely different than the other To say steroids do this, or steroids do that makes absolutely no sense at all |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: zones aaaaannnnnddddd there goes another thread. I've learned later because he took it personally. Don't really care who started what. I guess it's just too hard for some to let it go and not drag it on for pages. |
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Originally Posted By: Joeyballs Ob1, you're using steroids as a blanket term for everything. Each steroid produces different positive and negative side effects. Some steroids make you very sexually active such as testosterone, some decrease your sex drive such as deca. Each one is completely different than the other To say steroids do this, or steroids do that makes absolutely no sense at all |
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Seriously OB1, this is a great example of why you get fucked with so hard here. /notrollguarantee |
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Originally Posted By: BellRacer Originally Posted By: Flipped Oh its personal attack time? You're entire argument rests on "I've done cycles" and the web searches on medical data is wrong? heh, i've challenged fitness thread mentalities by requesting medical evidence and was told it didn't apply... |
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Originally Posted By: Joeyballs Ob1, you're using steroids as a blanket term for everything. Each steroid produces different positive and negative side effects. Some steroids make you very sexually active such as testosterone, some decrease your sex drive such as deca. Each one is completely different than the other To say steroids do this, or steroids do that makes absolutely no sense at all This. There are a lot of variables involved. |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Seriously OB1, this is a great example of why you get fucked with so hard here. /notrollguarantee Some people assume I'm saying I know everything. LNX saying "not true" isn't what I call factual evidence. His claim isn't any better than my Google search. Who's actually wrong or right is really irrelevant (we are both correct, as it seems)...but that the 2 positions were seriously mirror images of each other. However I was the only one who admitted to Google. I think part of the problem, if not the main problem, is I take hard positions and language at whatever knowledge level I'm at within a given subject. I'm not easily swayed either, unless it's a fact (like here). People take that as a know-it-all but I don't claim to be. I just need hard evidence to be convinced. |
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I can agree with that ---^ I'm just giving you my 'hard evidence' from my own personal experiences. Johnso: Soon man, soon! This shit is getting out of hand. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Originally Posted By: Flipped lol better sex drive while losing your hardon and shrinking your nuts. That sounds like torture. How are you losing your hardon with all that extra blood volume (up to 20% if I'm not mistaken?) Magic? You fuck like a porn star when on the sauce, ask the guys that have done it people with no experience with steroids talking about the side effects... lelz. lifetime "natty" here, one of the nicest guys I've ever met. 6'4 and roughly 260lbs http://youtu.be/8eGpY-rtIto |
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When you are on you will in fact fuck like a porn star. When you come off you will run the risk of having flaccid problems. A lot of factors would play into those results tho. Some people will take clomid to reduce those effects. Small nuts can/will happen but its not like its something out of a comic either. |
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More importantly I'm curious how pointing out a natural guy has anything to do with what he quoted. |
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Testicular atrophy is the result of your body failing to produce testosterone on its own because it's being artificially supplied, by an outside source. This results in the "shrinking" of your balls. Though, you can't tell and neither can anyone else. It's not like they actually shrink visibly, it's more like they feel less, full? This is only a problem for the novice user. A more experienced user will take HCG (not HGH) to stimulate natural testosterone production and prevent this from happening. HCG is s subcutaneous injection and requires only a small insulin needle. The dosage is very low. Typically HCG is taken toward the end or second half of the cycle, however, some guys start low dosages immediately. Different schools of thought. |
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Seriously though, could you outline a typical "cycle". I'm curious as to how much, how often, how long, how many things. |
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I don't like the idea of storing and carting around my work like a drug addict with needles and such. Is there any way to just take it rectally? You know, like a man? |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 I don't like the idea of storing and carting around my work like a drug addict with needles and such. Is there any way to just take it rectally? You know, like a man? |
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Sure, Hypothetical Cycle: Testosterone-Enanthate - 250mg/week Trenbolone Enanthate - 400mg/week Each steroid is suspended in a solution, called an ester. This solution determines the absorbability of the steroid. Think of it as the "time-release" mechanism of the steroid. Some steroids have shorter esters and some have longer. A longer ester requires less frequent injections because its being absorbed slowly over time. A short ester absorbs quicker, however, requires frequent dosing. Example: Long acting ester: Enanthate - ~10 days Short acting ester: Acetate - ~2 days When purchasing steroids you can decide which ester you want. For example, there is Testosterone-Enanthate and Testosterone-Acetate. The advantage to a shorter ester is the dosage is almost immediately absorbs into the blood stream. So if you wanted to take 250mg/week of Testosterone Acetate you would need to inject about 50mg every other day. The result is more stable blood plasma levels because the dosage is staying very consistent. The more stable your blood plasma level, the less likely your are to experience negative side effects. - The downside to Acetate is, you become a pin cushion. Injecting every other day can take a toll on your mental well-being. After 6 weeks or so most guys becomes so tired of injecting they cut they're cycle early. This is the advantage to Enanthate. Enanthate allows you to inject that same 250mg, however all at once. Resulting in a once per week injection (I know the half-life is about 10 days, so there is a bit of an excess build-up, but its usually negligible). This is much more comfortable, from an injection frequency stand point. The downside is the solution is absorbed in a wave like pattern. With a small amount being absorbed in the beginning of the week, a larger portion in the middle of the week, and small amount tapering down towards the end of the week. My advice is to use an Enanthate solution, however, divide the weekly total into 2 dosages; so 125mg on Sunday, 125mg on Wednesday. This is the best of both worlds. You get the long lasting Enanthate ester and more stable blood plasma levels. Okay... moving on... Since we decided to get both Test and Tren in Enanthate, we can inject them on the same days at the same frequency. Remember, our cycle is 250mg/week Test and 400mg/week Tren. Since we're injecting twice per week we're going to need to load up the syringe with 125mg of Test and 200mg of Tren. You can pull from one vial and then the next. Inject the steroid into the location of your choosing. Thighs being the most popular. Repeat this every week for 12 weeks. Sometime around week 10 you're going to start taking HCG to increase your natural testosterone production. If you don't your body will go into a testosterone deficit (not just back to normal). This will cause you to lose all of those gains that you just spent 10 weeks working on. You want a smooth transition from on the cycle to off the cycle. You're going to take HCG for 4 weeks at a dosage of about 250-500iu/week. This gets injected into the skin of your stomach. Around week 11 you're going to start taking the pill Nolvadex. I believe its 20mg/day for 4-6 weeks? I'm a bit rusty so I could be off. Nolvadex stops the conversion of excess Testosterone from turning into Estrogen. Helping eliminate side effects such as gynocomastia (swelling of the nipples) and also helping you keep your gains. Once that's done, your cycle is complete. Stay off for about 3 months and then go back on and hit it again. 2 cycles per year and you'll be jacked. |
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Fuck. Will recruit doctor who is breaking bad. |
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It's not that complicated. Guys on certain forums have great stacks laid out for you to follow if you want. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Seriously OB1, this is a great example of why you get fucked with so hard here. /notrollguarantee Some people assume I'm saying I know everything. LNX saying "not true" isn't what I call factual evidence. His claim isn't any better than my Google search. Who's actually wrong or right is really irrelevant (we are both correct, as it seems)...but that the 2 positions were seriously mirror images of each other. However I was the only one who admitted to Google. I think part of the problem, if not the main problem, is I take hard positions and language at whatever knowledge level I'm at within a given subject. I'm not easily swayed either, unless it's a fact (like here). People take that as a know-it-all but I don't claim to be. I just need hard evidence to be convinced. ok... but how do you acquire your knowledge that you take a hard position on? real life experience, or internet reading? |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Fuck. Will recruit doctor who is breaking bad. A good starter steroid is the pill Oral Turinabol. It's the "safest" steroid you can probably take. Slow gains but very high quality, lean muscle. |
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I didn't think any oral steroid would fall into a "safe(est)" category, hmm. That's interesting. |
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Originally Posted By: WNDYCTYone I didn't think any oral steroid would fall into a "safe(est)" category, hmm. That's interesting. Safest and cleanest are two different things. The side effects for Turinabol are extremely low compared to others. |
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Originally Posted By: WNDYCTYone I didn't think any oral steroid would fall into a "safe(est)" category, hmm. That's interesting. Normally I agree. Orals are terrible. But Turinabol has some of the lowest side effects of all steroids, injectables included. Turinabol is the anabolic steroid that was in many of those over-the-counter "pro-hormones" before they were made illegal. |
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Gotcha, gotcha. Thanks for dropping some knowledge! |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY It's not that complicated. Guys on certain forums have great stacks laid out for you to follow if you want. Originally Posted By: Joeyballs A good starter steroid is the pill Oral Turinabol. It's the "safest" steroid you can probably take. Slow gains but very high quality, lean muscle. links for both pls. |
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Also, Turinabol + magic weight loss nut = fucking unstoppable. Who is going to test that theory with me? |
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Dope, why not just lift first before going straight to roids? |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Dope, why not just lift first before going straight to roids? Why? Ares proved that isn't needed. |
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Did he? I have no idea what the ares reference is about. I've never even seen him. |
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Originally Posted By: President Dope! links for both pls. http://roidspot.net/SCIROXX/Turinadex |
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Originally Posted By: President Dope! Originally Posted By: Flipped Dope, why not just lift first before going straight to roids? Why? Ares proved that isn't needed. |
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Originally Posted By: Joeyballs Interesting. Is this something you can use for intermittent cycles or are the gains lost when you go off? |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Joeyballs Interesting. Is this something you can use for intermittent cycles or are the gains lost when you go off? I'm sure, like all roids, you will keep some if you maintain properly. |
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Quote: I'm sure, like all roids, you will keep some if you maintain properly. depending on what your taking you might keep the gains if theyre not mostly water retention based. Just that swollen look. Testoterone injections were quite popular with some lifting buddys back in the day. Used to walk into mexico picking them up along with clenbuterol. Most of these guys ended up huge id say 50 muscle / 50 water swollen. Easy quick gains on strength and physical size. Once off the juice some physical gains would stay but strength decreased dramatically. They look overweight and flabby today though. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Joeyballs Interesting. Is this something you can use for intermittent cycles or are the gains lost when you go off? Because Turinabol is a slow gainer, the muscle you build is more likely to be kept because its high quality, lean muscle. Not bloat or water weight like most other orals. A typical dosage is 40mg/day, split evenly. 20mg at 8am, 20mg at 8pm. I think a 6 week cycle is perfectly fine, however, some people go as long as 8-12 weeks. I wouldn't recommend that for the first cycle though. Remember, although Turinabol has almost no estrogenic side effects its still toxic to your liver, like alcohol or aspirin, etc. Because of that you'll want to be as healthy as possible while taking it. Drink plenty of water, no beer, etc. you'll want to take just as much time off as you spent on. |
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This "safe" oral stuff, it's all you take or do you need other shit too? |
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Originally Posted By: Impulsive This "safe" oral stuff, it's all you take or do you need other shit too? Technically, almost every steroid should be taken in conjunction with Testosterone. However, my first few cycles were Turinabol only cycles and I had great results. I didn't start injecting for a year after starting Turinabol (Haladrol-50 was the over the counter turinabol supplement at the time). edit: i think you may have meant Post Cycle Therapy. In my opinion, the first cycle shouldn't need any post cycle meds. Maybe after a 1 or 2 you can get Nolvadex for coming off of Turinabol. Like I said though, Turinabol has almost no Estrogenic conversion so the need for anti-estrogens are low. |
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Isn't that shit the same Dbol people have been fucking themselves up with since like the 80s? |
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Originally Posted By: Joeyballs Originally Posted By: Impulsive This "safe" oral stuff, it's all you take or do you need other shit too? Technically, almost every steroid should be taken in conjunction with Testosterone. However, my first few cycles were Turinabol only cycles and I had great results. I didn't start injecting for a year after starting Turinabol (Haladrol-50 was the over the counter turinabol supplement at the time). edit: i think you may have meant Post Cycle Therapy. In my opinion, the first cycle shouldn't need any post cycle meds. Maybe after a 1 or 2 you can get Nolvadex for coming off of Turinabol. Like I said though, Turinabol has almost no Estrogenic conversion so the need for anti-estrogens are low. Won't Turinabol still suppress the HPTA, necessitating a SERM to help restart natural test production? |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Isn't that shit the same Dbol people have been fucking themselves up with since like the 80s? I think you're talking about Dianabol. |
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Originally Posted By: 65_289_doe Originally Posted By: Joeyballs Originally Posted By: Impulsive This "safe" oral stuff, it's all you take or do you need other shit too? Technically, almost every steroid should be taken in conjunction with Testosterone. However, my first few cycles were Turinabol only cycles and I had great results. I didn't start injecting for a year after starting Turinabol (Haladrol-50 was the over the counter turinabol supplement at the time). edit: i think you may have meant Post Cycle Therapy. In my opinion, the first cycle shouldn't need any post cycle meds. Maybe after a 1 or 2 you can get Nolvadex for coming off of Turinabol. Like I said though, Turinabol has almost no Estrogenic conversion so the need for anti-estrogens are low. Won't Turinabol still suppress the HPTA, necessitating a SERM to help restart natural test production? I think at higher dosages, frequent cycles, and longer durations HCG should be taken at the end of each cycle. It's always a safe bet to take HCG. I just don't think a first time, 40mg, 6 week cycle, will really call for it. |
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So are people actually out there going and checking their ACTUAL testosterone production, estrogen levels, during a cycle? I just find it pretty odd to put this stuff in your body and then guess what you need/don't need and going by *feel* on how your body is reacting to it. A lot of people talk about it, how it should be taken, not sure how many actually have quantifiable/verifiable data and everyone is glossing over the side effects. I have two buddies that went down this path, safe steroids and all, one just had surgery to remove sh!t out of his chest glands...but it's just part of the cycle doe! Not to be a debbie downer on the subject, just trying to understand how people know quantities of what/when to take/what makes them so certain it's safe...or is everyone going on *best practices* and what worked on someone else's body who quantifiably monitored their status and assuming their body will react the same? |
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Originally Posted By: WNDYCTYone Would you happen to know if any of those 'liver support' pills help? They are called Vitamins. |
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There are a lot more labs state side to keep on top of your own levels. Compared to here. Not that its not doable. Most start with best practices and go from there depending on how your body responds. There are doctors that can help you here. but obviously youll pay for it. Or at least thats how you should do it. Not start with some crazy dosages. Side effects will vary from person to person. just lke anything. Or just do an ares and close your eyes and pray. |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Originally Posted By: Euphoric a little trt may not be a bad thing No doubt. No judgement here. I'm not even kidding, I don't want to fall off when I get older. Meanwhile, it seems to be moving more and more into the mainstream. Almost boutique-like. If they get it down to a science, sign me up. I need to be 60 and flexin' on niggaz. Is that what all of those "low-t" clinics I hear advertising on sports radio all the time are? Places to get "legal" steriods? |
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Originally Posted By: Risky Business So are people actually out there going and checking their ACTUAL testosterone production, estrogen levels, during a cycle? I just find it pretty odd to put this stuff in your body and then guess what you need/don't need and going by *feel* on how your body is reacting to it. A lot of people talk about it, how it should be taken, not sure how many actually have quantifiable/verifiable data and everyone is glossing over the side effects. I have two buddies that went down this path, safe steroids and all, one just had surgery to remove sh!t out of his chest glands...but it's just part of the cycle doe! Not to be a debbie downer on the subject, just trying to understand how people know quantities of what/when to take/what makes them so certain it's safe...or is everyone going on *best practices* and what worked on someone else's body who quantifiably monitored their status and assuming their body will react the same? You're not being a debbie downer at all. Steroids can be extremely dangerous. There are paid forums dedicated to the research and discussion of all sorts of steroids/brands/websites etc. Many of these forums provide in depth analyses of brands and their dosage. They also test the chemical make-up to ensure the product is legit and the company selling it is legit. Also, many manufacturers print holograms and lot numbers on their product, which can be verified through their website. Knowing the product is legit and correctly dosed is half the battle. Taking it is another science altogether. Your friend, that got gynocomastia and had to get his glands removed, has no one to blame but himself. That's a symptom of being lazy and uneducated. He overdosed and didn't take the proper Post Cycle Therapy. |
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Originally Posted By: BritneySpears Originally Posted By: WNDYCTYone Would you happen to know if any of those 'liver support' pills help? They are called Vitamins. Fine. Would you happen to know if any of those 'liver support' vitamins help? |
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Originally Posted By: Joeyballs You're not being a debbie downer at all. Steroids can be extremely dangerous. There are paid forums dedicated to the research and discussion of all sorts of steroids/brands/websites etc. Many of these forums provide in depth analyses of brands and their dosage. They also test the chemical make-up to ensure the product is legit and the company selling it is legit. Also, many manufacturers print holograms and lot numbers on their product, which can be verified through their website. Knowing the product is legit and correctly dosed is half the battle. Taking it is another science altogether. Your friend, that got gynocomastia and had to get his glands removed, has no one to blame but himself. That's a symptom of being lazy and uneducated. He overdosed and didn't take the proper Post Cycle Therapy. |
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Its not like 3 people are taking this stuff. They have been in heavy use for a long time now(starting in sports captain obvious). The proper information and protocol is out there. Although there is a lot of misinformation to potentially weed through. How ones body reacts is a bit of a self experiment/gamble even when following proper protocol (and keeping track of your blood work) but you can be cautious when starting out. most people probably just yolo it though and follow their "dealers" advice. Y0 bro its what I take. Look im jacked. Next up: moobs. |
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I am really surprised at the number of people willing to do these drugs. I guess it's the result of various factors in my life (life experience + classes in school) that make me completely unwilling to take what several of you guys here are heavily in support of. Oh well, different strokes. Also, it's also notable that there's few medical professionals in here advocating these techniques for muscle gain. |
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Originally Posted By: justthetip8.5 I am really surprised at the number of people willing to do these drugs. I guess it's the result of various factors in my life (life experience + classes in school) that make me completely unwilling to take what several of you guys here are heavily in support of. Oh well, different strokes. Also, it's also notable that there's few medical professionals in here advocating these techniques for muscle gain. |
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Yeah, all this seems like too much risk/work. That's why serious fellows that I know literally have a doctor on call/administering. Still no guarantee, but I'd rather that than take JOEYBALL'S on the civic dot forums dot si word for it. |
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At this point I'm just curious. I don't care what other people do. I've gotten stronger and bigger year over year...so I can keep on going and I imagine I'll continue with more results. Wouldn't hate on Joey, he hasn't claimed to be an expert. He only sent over what people asked. |
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Originally Posted By: RonnieColeman Originally Posted By: Johnso26 I DID NOT GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO POST A PICTURE OF ME!!!! NOW WHERE IS MY PROTEIN SHAKE MADE OF BABIES!!!!?!!! RAAAAWWWWWRRRRR!!!!!!!! |
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Originally Posted By: justthetip8.5 I am really surprised at the number of people willing to do these drugs. I guess it's the result of various factors in my life (life experience + classes in school) that make me completely unwilling to take what several of you guys here are heavily in support of. Oh well, different strokes. Also, it's also notable that there's few medical professionals in here advocating these techniques for muscle gain. Agreed. Health risks aren't worth it imo. I'd never consider any of this shit. |
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Ronnie Colemans arms are down to 17inches, he's been off of gear for quite some time, just had a double hip replacement as well and I believe he was having some heart trouble a few years back. I saw him in person at the la fit expo, dude was the size of a house in a 5'10 frame. maybe he was wearing 10 inch heels. |
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Originally Posted By: Anastasia Beaverhausen It's astonishing how many people are into this. Are we talking CSi here? I'm only curious. I've been lifting since I bought my own gym at 14. I know absolutely zero about roids. I literally metastasized my knowledge in this thread, but I doubt I could even cut out the occasional drink in order to keep my liver from cirrhosissing the fuck out of my abdomen. |
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Originally Posted By: Joeyballs Originally Posted By: Risky Business So are people actually out there going and checking their ACTUAL testosterone production, estrogen levels, during a cycle? I just find it pretty odd to put this stuff in your body and then guess what you need/don't need and going by *feel* on how your body is reacting to it. A lot of people talk about it, how it should be taken, not sure how many actually have quantifiable/verifiable data and everyone is glossing over the side effects. I have two buddies that went down this path, safe steroids and all, one just had surgery to remove sh!t out of his chest glands...but it's just part of the cycle doe! Not to be a debbie downer on the subject, just trying to understand how people know quantities of what/when to take/what makes them so certain it's safe...or is everyone going on *best practices* and what worked on someone else's body who quantifiably monitored their status and assuming their body will react the same? You're not being a debbie downer at all. Steroids can be extremely dangerous. There are paid forums dedicated to the research and discussion of all sorts of steroids/brands/websites etc. Many of these forums provide in depth analyses of brands and their dosage. They also test the chemical make-up to ensure the product is legit and the company selling it is legit. Also, many manufacturers print holograms and lot numbers on their product, which can be verified through their website. Knowing the product is legit and correctly dosed is half the battle. Taking it is another science altogether. Your friend, that got gynocomastia and had to get his glands removed, has no one to blame but himself. That's a symptom of being lazy and uneducated. He overdosed and didn't take the proper Post Cycle Therapy. He said he took test/tren/masteron stacked in one injection and that's when sh!t hit the fan...but again not quantifiable. That's HE THINKS gave him issues...and this is my issue. People spread info using themselves as the test subject on what went wrong, without hard data. |
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Originally Posted By: Silock IIRC, even Joey had some pretty serious side effects with his heart, so he had to stop. It's just not worth it, IMO. Good memory. It wasn't a side effect after the fact but a side effect while I was on the cycle. I went to the doctor for an annual check up for my insurance and he took my blood pressure & rested heart rate. it was something like 160bpm. He accused me of being on drugs or steroids so I told him the truth. I was pretty deep into a crazy cycle at the time. I tapered off the cycle and my doctors prescribed blood work. Everything was within normal range months after finishing the cycle. I haven't done a cycle since. I think that was 2011? |
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Originally Posted By: Maximus Why in the fuck would he be proud of this? |
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why are people proud of being chubby and strong? exactly |
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Same reasons that you're apparently proud of looking like you're a chemo patient. |
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I used to be like that. Then I lifted heavy shit. You bought purses and watches. |
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chub mode isn't on my calendar |
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Emo, skinny jeans and purse mode is. Get a skateboard and finish the look. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Maximus Why in the fuck would he be proud of this? Because synthol. Some fucked up shit not even close to roids. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Emo, skinny jeans and purse mode is. Get a skateboard and finish the look. you're right, I control my intake and run / hike > 100 miles a week to bulk up. 😐 |
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Your definition of bulk and mine are quite different. I srsly doubt you can lift much more than an average woman. 95, that's just eeeewwwwwwwww |
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You don't have to be head cashier at a walmart to see those legs that you posted of yourself. I was shocked that you were still standing. Don't go out during breezy days. But hey, you're not fat!!! |
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I'm shocked that a short male uses "bulk" as validation |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY You can also smell when someone is on a cycle as well. Pretty easily I might add. Keep coming back to this thread hoping this has been answered. What exactly does someone who is on a cycle smell like? |
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My goal is to be skinny fat and bulky at the same time! |
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I want to be Balki Warning, Spoiler: |
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Originally Posted By: markkusf Originally Posted By: LNXGUY You can also smell when someone is on a cycle as well. Pretty easily I might add. Keep coming back to this thread hoping this has been answered. What exactly does someone who is on a cycle smell like? I would guess (and it's only guess) - vinegar? |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 I'm shocked that a short male uses "bulk" as validation Well I may be shorter than you but twice as strong. Like a man should be. You strive more for WOman stuff. Skinny Clothes Watches Purses Honda Hair Not convinced that you're a man actually. |
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Originally Posted By: markkusf Originally Posted By: LNXGUY You can also smell when someone is on a cycle as well. Pretty easily I might add. Keep coming back to this thread hoping this has been answered. What exactly does someone who is on a cycle smell like? I've actually never heard this and I've been around the bodybuilding game since age 14. |
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wall tiles. |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 wall tiles. I'm sure not a single person on this site could pick them out better than you. Maybe team503? |
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Do you really have to shit up another thread? This one is rather interesting. |
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delving into homophobia, you're just the complete hick package |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 wall tiles. It's been said before, but I'm a big fan of 2-3 word replies that can dismantle a text wall lobbed by the e-adversary. |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 delving into homophobia, you're just the complete hick package Except I'm not a homophobe. I'll hate on people in the closet, tho. |
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Originally Posted By: White Guilt Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 wall tiles. It's been said before, but I'm a big fan of 2-3 word replies that can dismantle a text wall lobbed by the e-adversary. Shut up Nathan. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 wall tiles. I'm sure not a single person on this site could pick them out better than you. Maybe team503? |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: White Guilt Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 wall tiles. It's been said before, but I'm a big fan of 2-3 word replies that can dismantle a text wall lobbed by the e-adversary. Shut up Nathan. Say that to my shins. |
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Originally Posted By: White Guilt Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: White Guilt Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 wall tiles. It's been said before, but I'm a big fan of 2-3 word replies that can dismantle a text wall lobbed by the e-adversary. Shut up Nathan. Say that to my shins. You can't even stick to your own rules for response? Why are you even in a gym or fitness thread? I mean seriously I doubt you've ever been in one. |
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As a neutral in this argument - who cares how much someone can lift unless you're a competing powerlifter? Girls are not interested in how much I can bench, they just know I workout based on how I look. Do girls prefer this: or this: |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: White Guilt Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: White Guilt Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 wall tiles. It's been said before, but I'm a big fan of 2-3 word replies that can dismantle a text wall lobbed by the e-adversary. Shut up Nathan. Say that to my shins. You can't even stick to your own rules for response? Why are you even in a gym or fitness thread? I mean seriously I doubt you've ever been in one. I have posting rules? I'm here to watch you get outclassed again. |
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<--- short guy checking in. Ya'll mean! |
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Originally Posted By: Maximus As a neutral in this argument - who cares how much someone can lift unless you're a competing powerlifter? Girls are not interested in how much I can bench, they just know I workout based on how I look. Do girls prefer this: or this: Don't get it twisted, a lot of guys go to the gym so they can talk to other guys about the gym. |
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Originally Posted By: White Guilt Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: White Guilt Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: White Guilt Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 wall tiles. It's been said before, but I'm a big fan of 2-3 word replies that can dismantle a text wall lobbed by the e-adversary. Shut up Nathan. Say that to my shins. You can't even stick to your own rules for response? Why are you even in a gym or fitness thread? I mean seriously I doubt you've ever been in one. I have posting rules? I'm here to watch you get outclassed again. Your wonder 2-3 word retorts!! Outclassed? Better stay a while. Nobody by the likes of you two stand a chance. Even together you guys aren't strong enough. No srsly. |
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Originally Posted By: markkusf Originally Posted By: LNXGUY You can also smell when someone is on a cycle as well. Pretty easily I might add. Keep coming back to this thread hoping this has been answered. What exactly does someone who is on a cycle smell like? Someone answer this. Im curious as well. Had a friend that did them and never noticed anything. |
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more little guy e-flexing keep going! lol |
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Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Originally Posted By: Maximus As a neutral in this argument - who cares how much someone can lift unless you're a competing powerlifter? Girls are not interested in how much I can bench, they just know I workout based on how I look. Do girls prefer this: or this: Don't get it twisted, a lot of guys go to the gym so they can talk to other guys about the gym. And I'd rather look like BP there for sure. He's pretty strong there too. Not mega strong but strong enough. |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 more little guy e-flexing keep going! lol Cute that you have nothing but this to claim at this point. It's not like you can refute the purse and skinny comments. So now all you have is "you're taller than me". I win. |
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Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Originally Posted By: Maximus As a neutral in this argument - who cares how much someone can lift unless you're a competing powerlifter? Girls are not interested in how much I can bench, they just know I workout based on how I look. Do girls prefer this: or this: Don't get it twisted, a lot of guys go to the gym so they can talk to other guys about the gym. Agree completely with Maximus on that one. At almost 40, I personally go to the gym to feel great and look great. Im not in HS anymore so lifting brags I give no fucks about. If I can hike run swim walk fuck fly whatever with the best of them, then im pretty satisfied |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 more little guy e-flexing keep going! lol Cute that you have nothing but this to claim at this point. It's not like you can refute the purse and skinny comments. So now all you have is "you're taller than me". I win. third stress leave from a civic website incoming |
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Lol, tornado bait. That's funny. |
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Originally Posted By: TexasSI Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Originally Posted By: Maximus As a neutral in this argument - who cares how much someone can lift unless you're a competing powerlifter? Girls are not interested in how much I can bench, they just know I workout based on how I look. Do girls prefer this: or this: Don't get it twisted, a lot of guys go to the gym so they can talk to other guys about the gym. Agree completely with Maximus on that one. At almost 40, I personally go to the gym to feel great and look great. Im not in HS anymore so lifting brags I give no fucks about. If I can hike run swim walk fuck fly whatever with the best of them, then im pretty satisfied I think everyone who has been at it for a while eventually gets to that stage. Also, getting older sucks. I was a gym rat, from HS all through college I'd go through periods where I was obsessed with my numbers. Cardio? Fuck that! Dieting?! Nope. Nowadays I just strive for a nice overall package. I've also dealt with some rather fucked up injuries the last few years which prevents me from pushing myself like I've been able to in the past. |
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ob1 has to keep bulking to fit into those tents he bought at Ross |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 ob1 has to keep bulking to fit into those tents he bought at Ross pleated? |
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fuck abs, strength isn't a weakness. who's going to save a baby from a fire someone who can kick down a door, or some faggot who can do pull ups in a portable pull up bar in a door frame with nice abs? |
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actually don't even bothering answering who fucking cares. just do what makes you happy. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 actually don't even bothering answering who fucking cares. just do what makes you happy. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 fuck abs, strength isn't a weakness. who's going to save a baby from a fire someone who can kick down a door, or some faggot who can do pull ups in a portable pull up bar in a door frame with nice abs? wtf |
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Originally Posted By: 137 fuck abs, strength isn't a weakness. who's going to save a baby from a fire someone who can kick down a door, or some faggot who can do pull ups in a portable pull up bar in a door frame with nice abs? What if you have to do a pull up into a window frame to save the baby? WHAT THEN FATTY edit: offended because I do tons of pull ups and crunches! |
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That guy can't kick down a door. This guy is the real savior. |
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The thread that keeps giving. |
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Originally Posted By: Texas House Wife Some faggot who can do pull ups. This thread is full of winners. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Texas House Wife Some faggot who can do pull ups. This thread is full of winners. Thems mudriver ropeswings takes lots of pullup strength, huh? |
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Is that how they keep these people motivated at Crossfit? Imaginary life saving scenarios? YOU DO THAT BURPEE! THE CHILDS LIFE DEPENDS ON IT |
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Originally Posted By: Tennis Perv Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Texas House Wife Some faggot who can do pull ups. This thread is full of winners. Thems mudriver ropeswings takes lots of pullup strength, huh? Do you know the difference? |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Tennis Perv Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Texas House Wife Some faggot who can do pull ups. This thread is full of winners. Thems mudriver ropeswings takes lots of pullup strength, huh? Do you know the difference? Settle down, I just said that cause I just did an epic mudriver ropeswing last weekend (palms out ) and the pendulum motion took much pullup strength. Even have video, lol. Back on topic: fuck you you midget! |
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It was a serious question. So many people don't know the difference from a chinup to pullup. I posted a pic of me coming from a back flip about 20+' off the water and people made fun of me. They call it mud river on CSi but fact is that it is a spring fed river with most bedrock and its crystal clear. And yes...after each multi-day rope swing binge I'm always sore in my chip/pullup muskles! |
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Originally Posted By: Joeyballs Originally Posted By: 137 fuck abs, strength isn't a weakness. who's going to save a baby from a fire someone who can kick down a door, or some faggot who can do pull ups in a portable pull up bar in a door frame with nice abs? wtf keeps the cronuts flowing |
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Originally Posted By: Impulsive Originally Posted By: markkusf Originally Posted By: LNXGUY You can also smell when someone is on a cycle as well. Pretty easily I might add. Keep coming back to this thread hoping this has been answered. What exactly does someone who is on a cycle smell like? I would guess (and it's only guess) - vinegar? Yup, very similar. |
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Originally Posted By: TexasSI http://booksbycassandracarr.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/firefighter-hot.jpg lol fucking dead! and Pat the term faggot is only offensive if you feel that describes you. |
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Originally Posted By: Maximus Do girls prefer this: or this: Its like buying a car to impress girls. negra pls are you 12? abs dont get you women. ...well women worth any kind of serious relationship with. tinder outings are a completely different topic At the end of the day do what makes you happy and what is important to you at that moment. Most people who lift long enough will go in cycles of strength/maintenance/looks. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 fuck abs, strength isn't a weakness. who's going to save a baby from a fire someone who can kick down a door, or some faggot who can do pull ups in a portable pull up bar in a door frame with nice abs? lol nerve struck. Originally Posted By: 137 just kidding it's a horrible word, I need to stop saying it... You really do. |
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y'all muthafucks aint never rescued no babys! |
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Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Originally Posted By: 137 just kidding it's a horrible word, I need to stop saying it... You really do. |
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how much do I need to deadlift before I can knock over an interior door and save that baby? |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Or they're just popping dbols like it's going out of style, lol. There are all kinds of good steroids that don't bloat you up (Deca, Winstrol, etc) that will also help you get pretty cut. I think a lot of guys don't take the time to do things properly. See, here's the problem. I have no ethical issue with steroids. I don't really see tinkering with the body's chemical balance for performance gains as being all that different than tinkering with a computer or any other piece of hardware. Just like with any kind of tinkering, the possibility of fucking up and breaking things is there—but if I want to do something like overclock a PC or install forced induction or other power adders, there are guides on how to do these things in a way that is most likely to work. However, due to our culture, etc., I've never seen a comprehensive, well written, sourced primer on what works, what doesn't work, and what the "right" way to do things is re: steroids. |
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I'm the only one that uses the gym on base. So, no I don't juice. lol |
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Originally Posted By: Joeyballs 250 for an interior door - 450 for an exterior door I can't DL 450 and I think I can rip an exterior door off it's hinges. |
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Awaiting video upload. Good entertainment regardless of result lol. |
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*pictures tiny man hanging from open door and wiggling to and fro* |
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Originally Posted By: Impulsive I have no clue what to do. Plus, like most illegal things, I'd have to find a dealer for it and trust the product was safe. Originally Posted By: RainMachine I have no ethical issue with steroids. I don't really see tinkering with the body's chemical balance for performance gains as being all that different than tinkering with a computer or any other piece of hardware. I agree with both of these. I've never done it because I don't know where to get it and I don't know what to do, but if you removed some of those barriers/risks I might give it a go. I'd still have to put in the work, though, which I'm currently not doing. |
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Originally Posted By: Impulsive Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Maybe he was the guy who "got too big" when he started lifting weights? You guys know what I'm talking about. "I want to start lifting, but I don't want to get too big." "OK bro, get started and we'll keep on eye on you to make sure your muscles don't get too out of hand too quickly....." My biggest pet peeve. "Oh shit, I got too big - whatever shall I do!" Ditto goes for women who think doing some weights = veiny clenis muscles. This stereotype always comes up in lifting threads, and clearly the people who talk like this have zero experience. But there is a legit complaint here, IMO. I don't like owning 2-3 different sizes of pants. I don't like when my thighs rub together and cause chaffing. I don't like when my short-sleeve shirts fit so tight that the sleeves ride up my arms. I don't like drinking a gallon of whole milk every day and forcing food all the time... Ok I lied, I might like when my short-sleeve shirts fit tight. |
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Not really. Real size takes time. Beefcaking isn't a case of too big. |
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Originally Posted By: RainMachine Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Or they're just popping dbols like it's going out of style, lol. There are all kinds of good steroids that don't bloat you up (Deca, Winstrol, etc) that will also help you get pretty cut. I think a lot of guys don't take the time to do things properly. See, here's the problem. I have no ethical issue with steroids. I don't really see tinkering with the body's chemical balance for performance gains as being all that different than tinkering with a computer or any other piece of hardware. Just like with any kind of tinkering, the possibility of fucking up and breaking things is there—but if I want to do something like overclock a PC or install forced induction or other power adders, there are guides on how to do these things in a way that is most likely to work. However, due to our culture, etc., I've never seen a comprehensive, well written, sourced primer on what works, what doesn't work, and what the "right" way to do things is re: steroids. No one died from overclocking their computer too hard. |
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Originally Posted By: Silock Originally Posted By: RainMachine Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Or they're just popping dbols like it's going out of style, lol. There are all kinds of good steroids that don't bloat you up (Deca, Winstrol, etc) that will also help you get pretty cut. I think a lot of guys don't take the time to do things properly. See, here's the problem. I have no ethical issue with steroids. I don't really see tinkering with the body's chemical balance for performance gains as being all that different than tinkering with a computer or any other piece of hardware. Just like with any kind of tinkering, the possibility of fucking up and breaking things is there—but if I want to do something like overclock a PC or install forced induction or other power adders, there are guides on how to do these things in a way that is most likely to work. However, due to our culture, etc., I've never seen a comprehensive, well written, sourced primer on what works, what doesn't work, and what the "right" way to do things is re: steroids. No one died from overclocking their computer too hard. rainmachine missed the main point.. and on that note I'm off to the gym |
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Originally Posted By: Silock Originally Posted By: RainMachine Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Or they're just popping dbols like it's going out of style, lol. There are all kinds of good steroids that don't bloat you up (Deca, Winstrol, etc) that will also help you get pretty cut. I think a lot of guys don't take the time to do things properly. See, here's the problem. I have no ethical issue with steroids. I don't really see tinkering with the body's chemical balance for performance gains as being all that different than tinkering with a computer or any other piece of hardware. Just like with any kind of tinkering, the possibility of fucking up and breaking things is there—but if I want to do something like overclock a PC or install forced induction or other power adders, there are guides on how to do these things in a way that is most likely to work. However, due to our culture, etc., I've never seen a comprehensive, well written, sourced primer on what works, what doesn't work, and what the "right" way to do things is re: steroids. No one died from overclocking their computer too hard. I doubt there are a rash of deaths from occasional steroid use either. Of course you can look at the extreme side of things, but you can do that for alcohol and drugs as well. |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Originally Posted By: Silock Originally Posted By: RainMachine Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Or they're just popping dbols like it's going out of style, lol. There are all kinds of good steroids that don't bloat you up (Deca, Winstrol, etc) that will also help you get pretty cut. I think a lot of guys don't take the time to do things properly. See, here's the problem. I have no ethical issue with steroids. I don't really see tinkering with the body's chemical balance for performance gains as being all that different than tinkering with a computer or any other piece of hardware. Just like with any kind of tinkering, the possibility of fucking up and breaking things is there—but if I want to do something like overclock a PC or install forced induction or other power adders, there are guides on how to do these things in a way that is most likely to work. However, due to our culture, etc., I've never seen a comprehensive, well written, sourced primer on what works, what doesn't work, and what the "right" way to do things is re: steroids. No one died from overclocking their computer too hard. I doubt there are a rash of deaths from occasional steroid use either. Of course you can look at the extreme side of things, but you can do that for alcohol and drugs as well. Of course. That wasn't the argument. There's always a responsible way to use them, but if you do something that can't hurt you, like overclocking, in an irresponsible way, you won't die. If you do that with steroids, you're playing Russian Roulette. I mean, I understand why these things are illegal. What if you have some undiagnosed condition? If you screw up the steroids, you could dead yourself pretty easily. But John, if the Pirates of the Caribbean breaks down, the pirates don't EAT the tourists. |
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You can also try to drive 200mph down a busy highway. It's illegal cause of idiots in Congress. Not for scientific reasons. Look up the history . Ben Johnson scandal and the rest is history. Taking too many Tylenol and drinking alcohol can kill you. Same with a million other drugs you can buy. People can and do have bad reactions to all kinds of "safe" health products. |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY That's some final destination typing thinking, but I guess that's your opinion. Like it was mentioned, steroids are legal in other parts of the world. I'd like to see the number of deaths due to 'irresponsible use'... Google how many wwf wrestlers from the 90’s have died. |
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Originally Posted By: Moof Originally Posted By: LNXGUY That's some final destination typing thinking, but I guess that's your opinion. Like it was mentioned, steroids are legal in other parts of the world. I'd like to see the number of deaths due to 'irresponsible use'... Google how many wwf wrestlers from the 90’s have died. Again, that's the extreme side of things. Look up heroin users and see how many of them have died. Same shit. There are extremes of everything that eventually will kill you. |
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Originally Posted By: Silock Just because something doesn't kill you doesn't mean it can't permanently fuck you up. Again, this is irresponsible use. Irresponsible use would be grabbing whatever and jabbing it into your leg without any research beforehand. I think some of you guys forget testosterone is a naturally occurring substance in the body. |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Originally Posted By: Silock Just because something doesn't kill you doesn't mean it can't permanently fuck you up. Again, this is irresponsible use. Irresponsible use would be grabbing whatever and jabbing it into your leg without any research beforehand. I think some of you guys forget testosterone is a naturally occurring substance in the body. Just because it's natural doesn't mean it can't hurt you to have too much from an outside source. In other words, just because some is good doesn't mean more is better, at least not strictly speaking. And yeah, just taking whatever at whatever dosage is irresponsible. But it happens a LOT. Just look at the forums of guys going "Hey, I've been on this cycle for 3 months and I'm having this problem." And what they're taking is totally crazy, and it gets pointed out, and hopefully they make a change. Again, I'm not against steroids. I'm simply pointing out that there is a legitimate reason for them to be a controlled substance. Not having a doctor supervise is a gamble because not every cycle or stack works for everyone in the same way. |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Originally Posted By: Silock Just because something doesn't kill you doesn't mean it can't permanently fuck you up. Again, this is irresponsible use. Irresponsible use would be grabbing whatever and jabbing it into your leg without any research beforehand. I think some of you guys forget testosterone is a naturally occurring substance in the body. Precisely .. No need for a healthy person to inject more |
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Originally Posted By: Silock Again, I'm not against steroids. I'm simply pointing out that there is a legitimate reason for them to be a controlled substance. Not having a doctor supervise is a gamble because not every cycle or stack works for everyone in the same way. Agreed 100%. |
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Originally Posted By: Moof Until something legal, Quote: In Canada, anabolic steroids and their derivatives are part of the Controlled drugs and substances act and are Schedule IV substances, meaning that it is illegal to obtain or sell them without a prescription; however, possession is not punishable, a consequence reserved for schedule I, II or III substances The only reason they were ever made illegal in the usa is because of sports propaganda. Not because of any health concerns. There have never been any studies done on long term effects ..since illegal it would be "unethical" so all you have is somewhat anecdotal evidence. Can and do people die , sure? people die from cigarettes and alcohol too. Wrestlers are a poor sample to look at. On top of well known grueling travel schedules, there is a lot of other drugs and alcohol in that game. So many other important factors in their lifestyles to chalk up any deaths purely to steroid use. It seems in most "steroid" deaths there are other important factors which are ignored. Its a nice skapegoat though. Are nfl players dropping left and right from steroid use? nba? mlb? Track athletes etc? How is Arnold doing? |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Originally Posted By: Silock Just because something doesn't kill you doesn't mean it can't permanently fuck you up. Again, this is irresponsible use. Irresponsible use would be grabbing whatever and jabbing it into your leg without any research beforehand. I think some of you guys forget testosterone is a naturally occurring substance in the body. Thank god for responsible steroid users, its the irresponsible ones that makes steroids look bad. |
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Is that guy supposed to be juicing? He looks natural to me. |
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Originally Posted By: CrazeD_Z06 He looks natural to me. clearly you have NO clue. |
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Originally Posted By: Euphoric Originally Posted By: CrazeD_Z06 He looks natural to me. clearly you have NO clue. What are the tell tale signs there that I'm missing? He looks like a dude that lifts a lot of heavy heights and eats a lot of steaks and shit. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10351374_818108721554401_2878971390459378832_n.jpg?oh=da000d0cbbdb250bf1e173b190baff11&oe=54AA9404 Lol is that real??? |
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Originally Posted By: Joeyballs Originally Posted By: 137 https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10351374_818108721554401_2878971390459378832_n.jpg?oh=da000d0cbbdb250bf1e173b190baff11&oe=54AA9404 Lol is that real??? |
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Originally Posted By: Silock He looks natural to me. dude is 6'5 320 and ripped as fuck all year long...and openly uses. You guys have been polluted by muscle n fitness. natty? |
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Originally Posted By: CrazeD_Z06 Originally Posted By: Euphoric Originally Posted By: CrazeD_Z06 He looks natural to me. clearly you have NO clue. What are the tell tale signs there that I'm missing? He looks like a dude that lifts a lot of heavy heights and eats a lot of steaks and shit. His traps and shoulders for one thing. Both much larger than anyone can attain naturally. Combined with his overall mass and thickness. None of which can be done clean. He also deadlifts like 900+lbs. Want to see what the body can do naturally? Google Eugen Sandow |
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That guy has some great genetics, roids or not. |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY That guy has some great genetics, roids or not. All except his face. |
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Originally Posted By: TenTwelve Originally Posted By: LNXGUY That guy has some great genetics, roids or not. All except his face. Were you thinking of making out with him? |
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LNx guy when we're these fabled juicing days of yours because I remember a picture of you about 12 or more years ago in a sleeveless shirt and you didn't even look like you had ever seen a gym. You've always been so opinionated on this subject, does one photo even exist of you in an sort of shape? Euphoric , not every single person who is big is on juice, I find it hilarious how you think everyone is juicing. This thread is fucking hilarious though. |
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Why would I lie? I did two cycles back in the day when I was 21-22? So 15+ years ago? You seem upset about something, you wanna share with the rest of the class? |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Originally Posted By: TenTwelve Originally Posted By: LNXGUY That guy has some great genetics, roids or not. All except his face. Were you thinking of making out with him? Well, yeah... Look at his body. |
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I've called you on this in the past too. I don't think anyone should be taking fitness (nevermind steroid) advice from you. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover I've called you on this in the past too. I don't think anyone should be taking fitness (nevermind steroid) advice from you. Calling me out for what exactly? Lying about doing a few cycles of steroids? Why in the world would I ever make that up? I'm not giving anyone fitness advice in this thread. Just sharing my experiences, that's it. |
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Well while this thread goes 10 pages of you singing the praises of steroid use I just think we should all stop and think about who and where this steroid support is coming from. I think you should stick to fishing threads bro. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Well while this thread goes 10 pages of you singing the praises of steroid use I just think we should all stop and think about who and where this steroid support is coming from. I think you should stick to fishing threads bro. Personal experiences, nothing more, nothing less. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Ares has personal experience too Great? |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Ares has personal experience too Great? |
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all of this talking, end of the day 60 percent of the posters in here do not even lift lol. |
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who said everyone is? you think you look anything like that guy? obviously not. The usage is a lot higher than most might suspect. And since most people dont do baby amounts its usually not all that hard to spot these folks once you know what you are looking at. |
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I like the sharing of experience parts of anything, but it should always be discarded when trying to validate anything, especially such a small amount of experience as LNX has. In the end, using a forum as a reason to do anything would be stupid, regardless the amount of experience the guy has that you're listening to. It's one thing to take Art's advice on lifting (as I have in the past) and its entirely different to take roid advice. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 all of this talking, end of the day 60 percent of the posters in here do not even lift lol. |
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This is an open forum where people are free to chime in whenever and however they would like. If lnx was down at his local gym slinging roid advice in the locker room, you might have a point then. Some of the best lifting coaches in the world are fat fucks who havent touched a weight in decades. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Ares has personal experience too Great? You can think whatever you want man, but I'm sure everyone is happier for knowing your stance on things. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 all of this talking, end of the day 60 percent of the posters in here do not even lift lol. Me, you, Moof, Art, Silock, Euph, Joey (I think still does), Johnso, 98v, impulsive, justthetip, crazzed, wndy...not 60%. |
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I like how this place assumes that if you don't post in the fitness forum regularly that means you don't lift/exercise |
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I've gone over there a few times, good knowledge. I just don't like checking two places for my skinformation. |
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Fuck it, I'm posting a thread about my new rack.... |
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Gyno boobs? |
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Originally Posted By: Risky Business I like how this place assumes that if you don't post in the fitness forum regularly that means you don't lift/exercise I lift but, it's not to get huge so... |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Fuck it, I'm posting a thread about my new rack.... |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Fuck it, I'm posting a thread about my new rack.... |
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We should do a post your gym thread in OT. This will no doubt be a fun thread. |
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Interesting thread as I know nothing about steroids. It reminds me of this guy who I worked with at the nightclub, a security guard who calls himself 'Protein' and thinks he's a body builder but he's nothing more than a big fat dude who's a self proclaimed gym rat. "the meathead at his home!! Gym life babe.. Bigger stronger more powerful" "Gains on top of gains" "Whole lot of meathead 315 lbs of a beast" "Hell ya u c it. Wat goals look like n knocking them out of the park. Getting it" |
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To be fair...he used to be somewhat skinnier but he's just fluffy now yet still thinks he's the shit. The crazy thing is he's dating a friend of mine who is like 5'9" maybe 105lbs soaking wet. Talk about the odd couple. |
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He's no doubt strong. But he just eats a SHIT LOAD of food and lifts. Lots of guys do that. But his arms are pushing around from the side to the front of his body, lol complete workout, back fat and barrel shape. Originally Posted By: BMP GLI he's just fluffy now |
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Going back a bit... So should I not waste my whole life trying to achieve traps/shoulders like that huge mf on page 9. Is it really a matter of juicing. I pound and work on shoulders HARD and have yet to get them any where close to my ears. Sad if no...but I definitely recognize the cheaters at the gym now lol. If no juice, genetics. I need them |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY He's got a bad case of ILS. Lol yeah his arm position is hillarious. |
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you should still hit them hard anyways...but I would never expect behemoths quite like that. Overtime you can still achieve some serious yoke though. Don't give up. But you may need to readjust your goals to some degree if you plan to stay clean. |
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Originally Posted By: BMP GLI "Whole lot of meathead 315 lbs of a beast" Second picture is just fucking hilarious. Dude really thinks he looks good. As for the first pic....WTF needs a spot on that? |
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Not a spot, HELP! |
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Originally Posted By: BMP GLI Interesting thread as I know nothing about steroids. It reminds me of this guy who I worked with at the nightclub, a security guard who calls himself 'Protein' and thinks he's a body builder but he's nothing more than a big fat dude who's a self proclaimed gym rat. "Whole lot of meathead 315 lbs of a beast" I thought it was Tazz from the WWE lol!! |
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Originally Posted By: BMP GLI To be fair...he used to be somewhat skinnier but he's just fluffy now yet still thinks he's the shit. The crazy thing is he's dating a friend of mine who is like 5'9" maybe 105lbs soaking wet. Talk about the odd couple. confidence matters.. and working where you probably meet some people with pretty low iq |
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Originally Posted By: JEFFOS Originally Posted By: LNXGUY He's got a bad case of ILS. Lol yeah his arm position is hillarious. |
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No doubt. Except he kicks down castle doors, fuck an apartment door. He doesn't waste his time with those shits. |
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Originally Posted By: WNDYCTYone Originally Posted By: JEFFOS Originally Posted By: LNXGUY He's got a bad case of ILS. Lol yeah his arm position is hillarious. Now you will spot this every time you go to the gym, just try not to laugh |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Originally Posted By: WNDYCTYone Originally Posted By: JEFFOS Originally Posted By: LNXGUY He's got a bad case of ILS. Lol yeah his arm position is hillarious. Now you will spot this every time you go to the gym, just try not to laugh Ha!! Whenever I'd see guys like that I would pretend they were carrying suitcases in each arm on their way to the airport for a nice vacation. |
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Originally Posted By: WNDYCTYone Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Originally Posted By: WNDYCTYone Originally Posted By: JEFFOS Originally Posted By: LNXGUY He's got a bad case of ILS. Lol yeah his arm position is hillarious. Now you will spot this every time you go to the gym, just try not to laugh Ha!! Whenever I'd see guys like that I would pretend they were carrying suitcases in each arm on their way to the airport for a nice vacation. |
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Originally Posted By: cacasesi Appears he's "deadlifting" all of 2.5" from the rack. ....in Nike Shox |
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Originally Posted By: Risky Business I like how this place assumes that if you don't post in the fitness forum regularly that means you don't lift/exercise And if you do, but it's about cardio...it still doesn't count. |
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Originally Posted By: TexasSI Going back a bit... So should I not waste my whole life trying to achieve traps/shoulders like that huge mf on page 9. Is it really a matter of juicing. I pound and work on shoulders HARD and have yet to get them any where close to my ears. Sad if no...but I definitely recognize the cheaters at the gym now lol. If no juice, genetics. I need them have to deadlift if you want big traps, not rack pulls, not shrugs, not shoulder flies, but deadlift and pull ups. not that cable bullshit either. http://youtu.be/tGa9cHMpTnA well I kind of lift. |
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Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom Originally Posted By: Risky Business I like how this place assumes that if you don't post in the fitness forum regularly that means you don't lift/exercise And if you do, but it's about cardio...it still doesn't count. I went to the dr's for a physical to see if I am dying due to cronut and sour patch kid consumption. Dr. asks "if I exercise". I say "yes" then asks "how many times a week?" I reply "about 4 days a week" Dr. "for how many hours?" ME "about 3-4 sometimes 5" Dr. "how many of those hours are cardio?" ME "none" Dr. "So basically you don't exercise." |
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Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom Originally Posted By: Risky Business I like how this place assumes that if you don't post in the fitness forum regularly that means you don't lift/exercise And if you do, but it's about cardio...it still doesn't count. No youtube channel/blog/bb.com account, no swole. |
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Dear lord. A minute long video loaded to youtube for a 435lb deadlift set. Is that really worthy of such self-fellating? |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom Originally Posted By: Risky Business I like how this place assumes that if you don't post in the fitness forum regularly that means you don't lift/exercise And if you do, but it's about cardio...it still doesn't count. I went to the dr's for a physical to see if I am dying due to cronut and sour patch kid consumption. Dr. asks "if I exercise". I say "yes" then asks "how many times a week?" I reply "about 4 days a week" Dr. "for how many hours?" ME "about 3-4 sometimes 5" Dr. "how many of those hours are cardio?" ME "none" Dr. "So basically you don't exercise." LOFUCKINGL at 3-5hrs at the gym. WHAT IN THE FUCK |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom Originally Posted By: Risky Business I like how this place assumes that if you don't post in the fitness forum regularly that means you don't lift/exercise And if you do, but it's about cardio...it still doesn't count. I went to the dr's for a physical to see if I am dying due to cronut and sour patch kid consumption. Dr. asks "if I exercise". I say "yes" then asks "how many times a week?" I reply "about 4 days a week" Dr. "for how many hours?" ME "about 3-4 sometimes 5" Dr. "how many of those hours are cardio?" ME "none" Dr. "So basically you don't exercise." |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Well, he is built like a tuna can. Seems to be subscribing to that 137 Diet too. please, shirtless pictures ken doll? I love when fat people talk shit about other "fat peoples" dietary habits. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom Originally Posted By: Risky Business I like how this place assumes that if you don't post in the fitness forum regularly that means you don't lift/exercise And if you do, but it's about cardio...it still doesn't count. I went to the dr's for a physical to see if I am dying due to cronut and sour patch kid consumption. Dr. asks "if I exercise". I say "yes" then asks "how many times a week?" I reply "about 4 days a week" Dr. "for how many hours?" ME "about 3-4 sometimes 5" Dr. "how many of those hours are cardio?" ME "none" Dr. "So basically you don't exercise." Bullshit. You get plenty of cardio slamming yourself around your apartment during your post-gym video editing jack sessions. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Well, he is built like a tuna can. Seems to be subscribing to that 137 Diet too. please, shirtless pictures ken doll? I love when fat people talk shit about other "fat peoples" dietary habits. Lashing out with fat accusations? Your subpar diet is a given around here, like gravity. Why argue? |
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Originally Posted By: 137 have to deadlift if you want big traps, not rack pulls, not shrugs, not shoulder flies, but deadlift and pull ups. not that cable bullshit either. |
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Originally Posted By: Tennis Perv I bet when Ironmom is training for his 100 mile run he daydreams about saving babies by carrying them to far away hospitals with no other transportation available. lol WAIT THERES NO MEDEVAC?! *laces up obscurely named running shoes* |
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Originally Posted By: Impulsive Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Is that really worthy of such self-fellating? Are you new here? I forget, am reminded and then LOL all over again. |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Well, he is built like a tuna can. Seems to be subscribing to that 137 Diet too. please, shirtless pictures ken doll? I love when fat people talk shit about other "fat peoples" dietary habits. Lashing out with fat accusations? Your subpar diet is a given around here, like gravity. Why argue? I'll shut up when you back up your stupid ass mouth. |
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"Ate all of the donuts because they were there" |
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OK, let's say I'm fat, like ridiculously fat. Am I then wrong about your subpar diet and yawn inducing video library of mediocre lifts? I mean, I'm happy you're active and you seem dedicated, but what the fuck is that? If I'm not mistaken, it's been years and you refuse to lean out and you haven't transformed into an actual power lifter. So, what's going on here? Maybe this is just your path and it's not for us to understand, but I don't get it. |
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Thanks for visiting. added 30lbs to almost each of my lifts in 16 weeks, stayed the same weight. win/win |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Thanks for visiting. added 30lbs to almost each of my lifts in 16 weeks, stayed the same weight. win/win When is the part where you demonstrate self control and lose all of that blubber? |
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in his defense others around here are similar... <---epic fat, goes on long tirades about being fit, is slow as fuck on the bike, worse on the run, and tries to re-capture some mediocre swimming success from decades ago not too many fucks are given here either. What's wrong with being a mid-packer, exactly? I mean do we have to check in with the 'post-ur-pic' thread in the fitness forum for validation...and only then can we move on with our lives? If we fail validation are we subject to constant humiliation until the majority decide we have eaten the proper amount of boiled chicken/kale and have the CSI approved level of bodyfat? Not enough crying over 'cut' cycles or whatever we are 'supposed' to do? OMG ur squat isn't 1.9x your bodyweight dude! do u even lift? <----fat guy rant over |
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Nothing wrong with mid-pack, but goddamnit at least pick a direction. Do you have a YouTube channel of 9 minutes miles? Exactly. |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 OK, let's say I'm fat, like ridiculously fat. Am I then wrong about your subpar diet and yawn inducing video library of mediocre lifts? I mean, I'm happy you're active and you seem dedicated, but what the fuck is that? If I'm not mistaken, it's been years and you refuse to lean out and you haven't transformed into an actual power lifter. So, what's going on here? Maybe this is just your path and it's not for us to understand, but I don't get it. yeah... okay January 2011 I was 245lbs, I started crossfit January 2012 I was 212lbs, cut down to 180 in two months on paleo. lost a lot of muscle, wasn't really willing to get any smaller than this for vanity. I put some weight back on, started doing my own programming moving away from crossfit and building strength. I switch from paleo to intermittent fasting, still eating hamburgers and cupcakes just within some dumb ass window not counting macros. This worked pretty well for some time, but there was never really any balance. god so fucking fat, I know... I was able to get my lifts back up and shortly after got back up to 198, so Cory finally convinced me to let him handle my diet, so I rolled with that through late 2013 through probably april of this year. I got down to about 183, lowest weight I hit, had about all the cardio I could stand and wanted to focus on rebuilding my metabolism so the next time I cut I would be able to have more calories and less cardio. 405 backsquat, 235 bench, 465lb deadlift So we yolo'd back up to 200lbs, stopped doing cardio and focused on getting stronger I hired a coach to handle my nutrition as well as my programming, strength progression has gone through the roof. I'm not destroying myself in the gym either, just taking my time rather than going in for a pump to feel good about the shit I ate. All that food goes to use. Just like on the previous page I posted, just because I'm not skinny doesn't mean that I am not following something. You obviously don't seem to get that. I started this program late june, I am still within a 1-2lb deviation from where I started, the goal was never to shred. It will never be anymore, I care more about how much I lift than posting a picture of me having a chiseled serratus on clubsi for bragging rights. So you can continue to say oh my god you don't eat tilapia and asparagus so you can't give any helpful advice. But you guys could suck the color off of art's dickhairs because he's been physically the same for the last 10 years with absolutely no proof possible he's capable of the shit he says he is other than being able to jump up a really high brick wall and drink a shitload of vodka. but that's none of my business. |
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Why the fuck is 137 making this thread about him? We already have a 137 thread in the fitness forum with all of this same shit in it. |
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Doesn't care about bragging rights, must get stronger at all costs. |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Doesn't care about bragging rights, must get stronger at all costs. |
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Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom Originally Posted By: Risky Business I like how this place assumes that if you don't post in the fitness forum regularly that means you don't lift/exercise And if you do, but it's about cardio...it still doesn't count. yep, lift br0 is the only metric worth discussing. it's like the old SNL sketch of how much you bench. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Why the fuck is 137 making this thread about him? We already have a 137 thread in the fitness forum with all of this same shit in it. maybe cause people keep attacking him |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Doesn't care about bragging rights, must get stronger at all costs. it's what fat people do when they get skinny, it's okay. Whatever makes him feel better at the end of the day. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Doesn't care about bragging rights, must get stronger at all costs. I don't give a single fuck about how much I lift. It's part of what I do to maintain conditioning, along with tons of cardio. The discipline with food is the hardest part, as evidenced by so many of you. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Doesn't care about bragging rights, must get stronger at all costs. are you suggesting kb isn't physically fit. dude lost a lot of weight over the years. |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Doesn't care about bragging rights, must get stronger at all costs. I don't give a single fuck about how much I lift. It's part of what I do to maintain conditioning, along with tons of cardio. The discipline with food is the hardest part, as evidenced by so many of you. SO MUCH DISCIPLINE WENT INTO THIS BODY |
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Originally Posted By: BellRacer Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Doesn't care about bragging rights, must get stronger at all costs. are you suggesting kb isn't physically fit. dude lost a lot of weight over the years. yeah if being 140lbs and 6'7" and 25 percent bodyfat is fit then I'm fucking out. |
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Lol I weigh more than you |
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Originally Posted By: BellRacer Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Doesn't care about bragging rights, must get stronger at all costs. Which is fine except he's hating on a guy who doesn't give a shit about the same things as KB does. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: BellRacer Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Doesn't care about bragging rights, must get stronger at all costs. Which is fine except he's hating on a guy who doesn't give a shit about the same things as KB does. classify physically fit, pls. |
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do u really run/jog/hike ~100 miles a week doe? |
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Originally Posted By: BellRacer Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: BellRacer Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Doesn't care about bragging rights, must get stronger at all costs. Which is fine except he's hating on a guy who doesn't give a shit about the same things as KB does. classify physically fit, pls. But exactly...classify it. 137 is doing things differently than KB. Hence the wildly different results. |
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Originally Posted By: zakcits do u really run/jog/hike ~100 miles a week doe? Every week |
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Originally Posted By: zakcits do u really run/jog/hike ~100 miles a week doe? lol @ over 14 miles a day. |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Lol I weigh more than you doubt it. my girlfriend is bigger than you. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Lol I weigh more than you doubt it. my girlfriend is bigger than you. |
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In for a pose off between 137s GF and KB. That would make this the most epic thread. |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Originally Posted By: zakcits do u really run/jog/hike ~100 miles a week doe? Every week holy chit. I 'peaked' in my last 'cycle' at ~15 miles/week |
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Seems excessive. KB, please explain your regimen and goals. YouTube vids are obviously acceptable here as you build your case. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Lol I weigh more than you doubt it. my girlfriend is bigger than you. wasn't talking about height. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Lol I weigh more than you doubt it. my girlfriend is bigger than you. Oops Not surprised the two dwarves can't guess the weights of full size adults |
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I for one enjoy 137's food diary on FB. Keeps me hungry and keeps me focused on my daily calorie goals. |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Lol I weigh more than you doubt it. my girlfriend is bigger than you. Oops Not surprised the two dwarves can't guess the weights of full size adults #linoleumgate |
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Originally Posted By: 137 But you guys could suck the color off of art's dickhairs because he's been physically the same for the last 10 years with absolutely no proof possible he's capable of the shit he says he is other than being able to jump up a really high brick wall and drink a shitload of vodka. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: TexasSI Going back a bit... So should I not waste my whole life trying to achieve traps/shoulders like that huge mf on page 9. Is it really a matter of juicing. I pound and work on shoulders HARD and have yet to get them any where close to my ears. Sad if no...but I definitely recognize the cheaters at the gym now lol. If no juice, genetics. I need them have to deadlift if you want big traps, not rack pulls, not shrugs, not shoulder flies, but deadlift and pull ups. not that cable bullshit either. http://youtu.be/tGa9cHMpTnA well I kind of lift. Oh. You're a dropper. |
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How else are you gonna look bad fucking ass? You see the skull and cross bones on the wall there, right player? |
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I'm here for the gangbang |
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Nothing wrong with either controlled drops or being a dropper. Personally I control to about my knees and then let it go (I don't mean letting go of the bar) and reset. That video does appear a bit...hasty. |
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Originally Posted By: WB2 I'm here for the gangbang Good thread so far. Let's see what happens next. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Doesn't care about bragging rights, must get stronger at all costs. I don't give a single fuck about how much I lift. It's part of what I do to maintain conditioning, along with tons of cardio. The discipline with food is the hardest part, as evidenced by so many of you. SO MUCH DISCIPLINE WENT INTO THIS BODY WTF, that dude doesn't really dress like that, does he? Tell me he was trying on Halloween outfits and is going as "The Bottom". |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped That video does appear a bit...bad fucking ass. Fixed. It's all about how you walk away from the drop as well. Pretend as if the weight is an opponent that you just dropped with a sick 3 piece. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Nothing wrong with either controlled drops or being a dropper. Personally I control to about my knees and then let it go (I don't mean letting go of the bar) and reset. That video does appear a bit...hasty. Well at least he stops and doesn't use the bounce. I've been guilty of the bounce. |
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Originally Posted By: Moof I for one enjoy 137's food diary on FB. Keeps me hungry and keeps me focused on my daily calorie goals. + Juan. |
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#donutburger |
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Originally Posted By: FireInTheWhole Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Doesn't care about bragging rights, must get stronger at all costs. I don't give a single fuck about how much I lift. It's part of what I do to maintain conditioning, along with tons of cardio. The discipline with food is the hardest part, as evidenced by so many of you. SO MUCH DISCIPLINE WENT INTO THIS BODY WTF, that dude doesn't really dress like that, does he? Tell me he was trying on Halloween outfits and is going as "The Bottom". Yes, that's a joke pic, none of those clothes are mine |
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Originally Posted By: Tennis Perv I bet when Ironmom is training for his 100 mile run he daydreams about saving babies by carrying them to far away hospitals with no other transportation available. The closest I'll ever come to that is having to haul one of my scouts pack a few miles down the trail for him...on top of mine. closeenough.gif |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Originally Posted By: FireInTheWhole Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Doesn't care about bragging rights, must get stronger at all costs. I don't give a single fuck about how much I lift. It's part of what I do to maintain conditioning, along with tons of cardio. The discipline with food is the hardest part, as evidenced by so many of you. SO MUCH DISCIPLINE WENT INTO THIS BODY WTF, that dude doesn't really dress like that, does he? Tell me he was trying on Halloween outfits and is going as "The Bottom". Yes, that's a joke pic, none of those clothes are mine Were you trying on that hair-do? |
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C'mon...KB has prett much the best hair on CSi. Actually it's a toss up between him and Dooe. |
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Originally Posted By: FireInTheWhole Originally Posted By: Flipped Nothing wrong with either controlled drops or being a dropper. Personally I control to about my knees and then let it go (I don't mean letting go of the bar) and reset. That video does appear a bit...hasty. Well at least he stops and doesn't use the bounce. I've been guilty of the bounce. Unless you're trying to build grip strength or overall deadlift strength, there is absolutely no reason in the world to control the eccentric portion of a deadlift unless your form/core/balance is horrible. I workout in a gym that allows me to drop/throw weights down that's what I pay for. Instead of missing a lift and having a manager tell me to calm the fuck down so people can do their cardio in peace. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 he's been physically the same for the last 10 years with absolutely no proof possible he's capable of the shit he says he is other than being able to jump up a really high brick wall and drink a shitload of vodka. but that's none of my business. |
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Originally Posted By: Risky Business Originally Posted By: 137 But you guys could suck the color off of art's dickhairs because he's been physically the same for the last 10 years with absolutely no proof possible he's capable of the shit he says he is other than being able to jump up a really high brick wall and drink a shitload of vodka. Such anger Meanwhile I'm taller, heavier, stronger on every lift AND I look good. He's so angry. |
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I'm inspired. I'm eating something filthy for lunch today. |
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Am I making a misstep not buying a guy for my "programming?" Please let me know. |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Am I making a misstep not buying a guy for my "programming?" Please let me know. only if you want "advanced" strength. |
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Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom Originally Posted By: Tennis Perv I bet when Ironmom is training for his 100 mile run he daydreams about saving babies by carrying them to far away hospitals with no other transportation available. The closest I'll ever come to that is having to haul one of my scouts pack a few miles down the trail for him...on top of mine. closeenough.gif I did that going up the mountain on Chief Squamish with my girl, North of Vancouver, and ended up hurting my shoulder so much I had surgery when we got back to the states, LOL. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: Risky Business Originally Posted By: 137 But you guys could suck the color off of art's dickhairs because he's been physically the same for the last 10 years with absolutely no proof possible he's capable of the shit he says he is other than being able to jump up a really high brick wall and drink a shitload of vodka. Such anger Meanwhile I'm taller, heavier, stronger on every lift AND I look good. He's so angry. I've spent my whole life trying to chase the chiseled kale drinking ginger of csi with the godly face of a 12 year old. I'll never measure up to the internets expectations, icry |
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not trying to dog on a person for exercising and all but up to 20 hours in a gym in a week? that's ridonculous. |
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It's more than ridiculous. It's flat out stupid. Unless he's just hanging around 2-3hra after he's done to watch womenz. |
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He said per visit. |
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We have traded "globo" for "programming" #progress |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 You simply can't be black. I will post pics to prove if necessary |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Maybe he didn't mean per day....hopefully. I think he is... |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Seems excessive. KB, please explain your regimen and goals. YouTube vids are obviously acceptable here as you build your case. We are gonna try for the PCT next year. |
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Originally Posted By: justthetip8.5 I don't believe you run that much per day. I never said it was all running, read again. It's mostly hiking with a 30lb pack. I run around 25 miles a week. |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Maybe he didn't mean per day....hopefully. No, it's very accurate, I spend at least 20-40 minutes warming up depending on the workload for the day. This varies from stretching, to drill work, active mobility, band work, etc. I don't have to scramble for equipment or have someone in my shit mid set asking if I'm done with a bench. This allows me to take proper rest for attempts, and also review footage of a lift to see if there are any corrections to my form that need to be made. For a bro this isn't necessary so some people can workout in an hour and be happy with having a pump for instagram. that's cool. All of my accessory work is RPE based as well set up in a linear periodization which is all self modulating. A lot of which most people don't do, banded contractions, glute ham raises, lunges, chest supported rows with a pause. etc, etc, tldr i'm not elite who fucking cares fat fuck. But let me keep talking about it. |
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a lot of average gym goers think filming is over excessive and serves no purpose, these are the same guys that set up differently every time they lift, tear shit when they lift, or have "shoulder pain" from their impressive benching. Can't squat past parallel because of excuses, etc, etc/ |
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Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Art, please start vlogging. he's a cop or something, probably not a good idea either way. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 a lot of average gym goers think filming is over excessive and serves no purpose, these are the same guys that set up differently every time they lift, tear shit when they lift, or have "shoulder pain" from their impressive benching. Can't squat past parallel because of excuses, etc, etc/ Filming and spending all that time narrating and editing is what's odd, IMO. I mean you're already spending 120+hrs a week on work, gym and sleep. |
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Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Art, please start vlogging. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Art, please start vlogging. I mean you would actually have to squat to say you can't go past parallel. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Art, please start vlogging. I mean you would actually have to squat to say you can't go past parallel. Keep reaching dude |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: 137 a lot of average gym goers think filming is over excessive and serves no purpose, these are the same guys that set up differently every time they lift, tear shit when they lift, or have "shoulder pain" from their impressive benching. Can't squat past parallel because of excuses, etc, etc/ Filming and spending all that time narrating and editing is what's odd, IMO. Whats odd about it, I sit at a desk all day to do my job, people surf clubsi during work, I edit videos during work in my downtime. Some interested in the same hobbies follow the videos and I follow others as well. Always something to learn, and I can always check to see how I've progressed. Whereas others will just have war stories about what they're supposedly capable of but will never reach that level of glory ever again with some cop out they just want to run and enjoy being disciplined. blah blah blah. wtf is this thread even about anymore. You worrying about the time I spent editing could be focused on the time you spend trolling this forum, coming back, leaving, coming back, leaving, pulling up fbi photos of other posters, going to strip clubs, lying about possessions, having people go after you on the internet so they can win the who can expose who more war. I just don't understand your obsession with what I do with my time and now that you can deadlift more than 300lbs somehow we can relate as advance lifters or some shit now? I appreciate any goodwill you've given me, but to put your nose in it while pretending to not have your nose in it makes you look really fucking dumb man. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Art, please start vlogging. I mean you would actually have to squat to say you can't go past parallel. Keep reaching dude keep squatting dude |
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Originally Posted By: TenTwelve This could be the most ridiculous and hilarious thread in CSi history. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: 137 a lot of average gym goers think filming is over excessive and serves no purpose, these are the same guys that set up differently every time they lift, tear shit when they lift, or have "shoulder pain" from their impressive benching. Can't squat past parallel because of excuses, etc, etc/ Filming and spending all that time narrating and editing is what's odd, IMO. Whats odd about it, I sit at a desk all day to do my job, people surf clubsi during work, I edit videos during work in my downtime. Some interested in the same hobbies follow the videos and I follow others as well. Always something to learn, and I can always check to see how I've progressed. Whereas others will just have war stories about what they're supposedly capable of but will never reach that level of glory ever again with some cop out they just want to run and enjoy being disciplined. blah blah blah. wtf is this thread even about anymore. You worrying about the time I spent editing could be focused on the time you spend trolling this forum, coming back, leaving, coming back, leaving, pulling up fbi photos of other posters, going to strip clubs, lying about possessions, having people go after you on the internet so they can win the who can expose who more war. I just don't understand your obsession with what I do with my time and now that you can deadlift more than 300lbs somehow we can relate as advance lifters or some shit now? I appreciate any goodwill you've given me, but to put your nose in it while pretending to not have your nose in it makes you look really fucking dumb man. Make no mistake, I defend your strength results and dedication. You have other ???? About your style. But more power to you. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Art, please start vlogging. that's the most hilarious spelling of parallel I've ever read. My brain processed it as you not being able to go past Pharrell on squats |
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Originally Posted By: 137 You worrying about the time I spent editing could be focused on the time you spend trolling this forum, coming back, leaving, coming back, leaving, pulling up fbi photos of other posters, going to strip clubs, lying about possessions, having people go after you on the internet so they can win the who can expose who more war. I just don't understand your obsession with what I do with my time and now that you can deadlift more than 300lbs somehow we can relate as advance lifters or some shit now? I appreciate any goodwill you've given me, but to put your nose in it while pretending to not have your nose in it makes you look really fucking dumb man. wowowowowowowowowowow |
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He doesn't understand people discussing his gym life yet he posts it in it's entirety here every single day. Videos, pictures, shirtless pics and diet, Instagram and a blog. And yet "why are you interested in my shit, dawg!!" |
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Also, 137...I can relate to you because I spend but THREE HOURS a week lifting to your TWENTY HOURS A WEEK. It's safe to say I've gotten more out of my time. |
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When does one become an advanced lifter? Is related to how much goofy shit you wear while doing it? Sometimes Wayne looks like a damn mummy with all the shit he's got his boddy wrapped up with. |
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Originally Posted By: justthetip8.5 to be fair, it doesn't make sense why you are so interested Who said I was interested? I've flowed the thread he runs in another forum, along with a bunch of other people. What dat memory do? |
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Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom When does one become an advanced lifter? Is related to how much goofy shit you wear while doing it? Sometimes Wayne looks like a damn mummy with all the shit he's got his boddy wrapped up with. There is an internet chart that OB1 goes by, it's posted in the fitness forum. I was surprised to find myself fit into the "intermediate" category. I therefore have no right to participate in any *lifting* discussions with the *advanced* csiers. |
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Lol glory days This dude is such a clown. And btw, I've kicked several doors right out of their frame. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped He doesn't understand people discussing his gym life yet he posts it in it's entirety here every single day. Videos, pictures, shirtless pics and diet, Instagram and a blog. And yet "why are you interested in my shit, dawg!!" ok you say I just can't believe how you spend more than 1 hour in the gym lifting weights, but you also don't understand how I am constantly getting stronger. makes sense. you can't understand how I spend so much time filming and blogging, but I can't understand how much time you vested in setting up a gym in your garage and building the perfect anchored weight holders and posting pictures of it, and writing about it, and the gas and traveling involved with just getting shit to pick up and put down in the comfort of your own garage. I mean clearly more than an hour a day was invested in you setting up this man cave of gains you now live in. You question me filming stuff... and then you post this. Originally Posted By: Flipped Not been worrying about being peeled, and I never have been anyway...but I have been getting stronger. Been focusing heavily on back and shoulders. I recently hit PRs on all major lifts so I took a day to record form checks. I know you haven't even said shit about my diet or my eating habits in here or I may have missed them because clearly you've obviously been on the same plan I'm on because you're not 150lbs anymore. Lets not even get started on using android watches to take selfies so you can inconspicuously look like a douche without looking like a douche for tinder profile pictures. - this one isn't directed at you. Everyone has their own level of investment they'd like to give in the gym and other people could give a fuck and are enjoying life. I respect anyone who wants to put in work towards whatever their fucking goal is, whether it's to run forever the fastest, be skinny, be fat, bulk, cut, develop eating disorders, or eat an on rails diet of fish, almonds, and broccoli. Everyone is different. and everyone could give a fuck all about what the next man is doing. |
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Originally Posted By: Risky Business Originally Posted By: 137 You worrying about the time I spent editing could be focused on the time you spend trolling this forum, coming back, leaving, coming back, leaving, pulling up fbi photos of other posters, going to strip clubs, lying about possessions, having people go after you on the internet so they can win the who can expose who more war. I just don't understand your obsession with what I do with my time and now that you can deadlift more than 300lbs somehow we can relate as advance lifters or some shit now? I appreciate any goodwill you've given me, but to put your nose in it while pretending to not have your nose in it makes you look really fucking dumb man. wowowowowowowowowowow |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Lol glory days This dude is such a clown. And btw, I've kicked several doors right out of their frame. How many leg presses did you have to do to acquire the strength to break 4 wood screws out of a home depot / lowes door frame, or are there varying levels of difficulty depending on the oem provider of said door frame. Metal screws or iron or doesn't matter? |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Lol glory days This dude is such a clown. And btw, I've kicked several doors right out of their frame. How many leg presses did you have to do to acquire the strength to break 4 wood screws out of a home depot / lowes door frame, or are there varying levels of difficulty depending on the oem provider of said door frame. Metal screws or iron or doesn't matter? |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover parrelell parrelell parrelell parrelell |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Lol glory days This dude is such a clown. And btw, I've kicked several doors right out of their frame. How many leg presses did you have to do to acquire the strength to break 4 wood screws out of a home depot / lowes door frame, or are there varying levels of difficulty depending on the oem provider of said door frame. Metal screws or iron or doesn't matter? this was a serious question, also can you provide some videos on proper form to be used when kicking out a metal security screen door, those ones are bolted in pretty good. Just want to make sure I don't blow my knee up trying to kick out a door frame supported by 20 studs in a concrete foundation. |
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Originally Posted By: Euphoric Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover parrelell parrelell parrelell parrelell I love that "Happy" song he sings. |
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I'm confused, is Wayne trying to call me fat? Lol I'm 175lbs Wayne. |
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What if you tough guys kicked in the door and it fell ON the baby? |
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spend 20 hours/week training when you could have used this. |
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Originally Posted By: Risky Business I was surprised to find myself fit into the "intermediate" category. |
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Originally Posted By: Euphoric Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover parrelell parrelell parrelell parrelell This thread dellivererrs |
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Originally Posted By: Euphoric Originally Posted By: Risky Business I was surprised to find myself fit into the "intermediate" category. blog of my journey incoming |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped I'm confused, is Wayne trying to call me fat? Lol I'm 175lbs Wayne. Aren't you 5' 10" how do you look worse than me at 175 than I do at 205. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Flipped I'm confused, is Wayne trying to call me fat? Lol I'm 175lbs Wayne. Aren't you 5' 10" how do you look worse than me at 175 than I do at 205. This thread just refueled. |
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" 5'10" " |
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Well if you're serious the textbook maneuver is a mule kick but, only fairies do that. |
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Originally Posted By: Euphoric " 5'10" " |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Well if you're serious the textbook maneuver is a mule kick but, only fairies do that. haha that would actually be funny as fuck to see demonstrated. especially if you have to watch videos of it being done that were made in the 70's. |
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The funniest video is the one teaching you how to deliver a baby in the back of the car from the 60s....most graphic shit ever. "You're a beautiful mother" Anyone who has had to watch that will know |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Flipped I'm confused, is Wayne trying to call me fat? Lol I'm 175lbs Wayne. Aren't you 5' 10" how do you look worse than me at 175 than I do at 205. |
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I have to give it up to 137, some grade A shit up in this trollertex. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped You are not pressing your bicep hard enough against your chest bro. |
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Originally Posted By: Risky Business Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom When does one become an advanced lifter? Is related to how much goofy shit you wear while doing it? Sometimes Wayne looks like a damn mummy with all the shit he's got his boddy wrapped up with. There is an internet chart that OB1 goes by, it's posted in the fitness forum. I was surprised to find myself fit into the "intermediate" category. I therefore have no right to participate in any *lifting* discussions with the *advanced* csiers. brb, I have to find this link. |
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Originally Posted By: lunchbox Originally Posted By: Risky Business Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom When does one become an advanced lifter? Is related to how much goofy shit you wear while doing it? Sometimes Wayne looks like a damn mummy with all the shit he's got his boddy wrapped up with. There is an internet chart that OB1 goes by, it's posted in the fitness forum. I was surprised to find myself fit into the "intermediate" category. I therefore have no right to participate in any *lifting* discussions with the *advanced* csiers. brb, I have to find this link. http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.html |
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Originally Posted By: 65_289_doe Originally Posted By: lunchbox Originally Posted By: Risky Business Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom When does one become an advanced lifter? Is related to how much goofy shit you wear while doing it? Sometimes Wayne looks like a damn mummy with all the shit he's got his boddy wrapped up with. There is an internet chart that OB1 goes by, it's posted in the fitness forum. I was surprised to find myself fit into the "intermediate" category. I therefore have no right to participate in any *lifting* discussions with the *advanced* csiers. brb, I have to find this link. http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.html yep, just found it... everyone measure your penis. What if we could actually get organized enough to put all this to rest. Like all these guys claiming to be the biggest buffest Mfer put their money where their mouth is. We score each category by points. There are 5 classes, so 1 point for an untrained lift, 5 is elite. Times 6 Categories. Total max score of 30 points. Video must be uploaded to prove point. Highest score gets a t shirt with Art's face on it. |
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I think the strongest guys here are Art, Euphoric, Fireinthehole, Impulsive ??? Who am I missing? 137 I guess, but he tarded out. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped I think the strongest guys here are Art, Euphoric, Fireinthehole, Impulsive ??? Who am I missing? 137 I guess, but he tarded out. diesel |
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Originally Posted By: 65_289_doe Originally Posted By: lunchbox Originally Posted By: Risky Business Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom When does one become an advanced lifter? Is related to how much goofy shit you wear while doing it? Sometimes Wayne looks like a damn mummy with all the shit he's got his boddy wrapped up with. There is an internet chart that OB1 goes by, it's posted in the fitness forum. I was surprised to find myself fit into the "intermediate" category. I therefore have no right to participate in any *lifting* discussions with the *advanced* csiers. brb, I have to find this link. http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.html I'll take intermediate lifter and advanced tennis player over elite meat head. |
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Originally Posted By: Joeyballs What the hell happened in here |
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Originally Posted By: 137 RPE based as well set up in a linear periodization which is all self modulating |
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yes yes, please post more baggy clothes pictures... while I posted a picture of me after 2300 calories and a gallon and a half of water trolling... here you go, took this before I eat my lunch, about half a gallon of water in already. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover You. Don't. Look. Good. got any mirrors handy. you. don't. look. good. if you want to compare two guys lifting for lifting and not aesthetics, we're just putting my "leanness" up against ob1s at a taller and lighter weight. tis all, continue trolling. |
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I don't take pics of myself like that. Let alone daily like you. Those also aren't baggy. I also don't have both a D cup and B cup tit like you do. Go pick your fight somewhere else. I'm not interested. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped I don't take pics of myself like that. Let alone daily like you. Those also aren't baggy. I also don't have both a D cup and B cup tit like you do. Go pick your fight somewhere else. I'm not interested. Oh I'm not picking a fight, you simply wanted to argue and I'm just putting you back in your place on the intermediate pedestal you stepped up from to the advanced platform. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover You. Don't. Look. Good. got any mirrors handy. you. don't. look. good. if you want to compare two guys lifting for lifting and not aesthetics, we're just putting my "leanness" up against ob1s at a taller and lighter weight. tis all, continue trolling. And I look way better, and I'm bigger, and I'm stronger. And I'm not even trying. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover You. Don't. Look. Good. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped I think the strongest guys.... Euphoric..... pffffffpfpfpfpfff.gif |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped I think the strongest guys here are Art, Euphoric, Fireinthehole, Impulsive ??? Who am I missing? 137 I guess, but he tarded out. I might be stronger than some of you guys (depending how you define strong) .. 5'9 197lbs I was finally able to bust out 1 unassisted rep of 315 on the bench. I mentioned in the fitness forum that I've stopped lifting as heavy because my arms literally arent fitting in a lot of my shirts (obv brag post). I dont want to have to buy new polos. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Flipped I don't take pics of myself like that. Let alone daily like you. Those also aren't baggy. I also don't have both a D cup and B cup tit like you do. Go pick your fight somewhere else. I'm not interested. Oh I'm not picking a fight, you simply wanted to argue and I'm just putting you back in your place on the intermediate pedestal you stepped up from to the advanced platform. What place is that? You ARE fat. I'm not. I'm not shredded either, although I never claimed to be nor tried to be. You're stronger than I am, that's clear. If that's where you want me then I guess "I'm back in my place". Although I never realized that I left it. |
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Originally Posted By: CrazeD_Z06 I might be stronger than some of you guys.. 5' 197lbs I was finally able to bust out 1 unassisted rep of 315 on the bench. I mentioned in the fitness forum that I've stopped lifting as heavy because my arms literally arent fitting in a lot of my shirts (obv brag post). I dont want to have to buy new polos. You've got me...I have no idea what I can flat bench. Maybe 265. Recently did 275 after a 5x5 workout on decline. You have me by 20lbs tho. |
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Originally Posted By: CrazeD_Z06 Originally Posted By: Flipped I think the strongest guys here are Art, Euphoric, Fireinthehole, Impulsive ??? Who am I missing? 137 I guess, but he tarded out. I might be stronger than some of you guys (depending how you define strong) .. 5' 197lbs I was finally able to bust out 1 unassisted rep of 315 on the bench. I mentioned in the fitness forum that I've stopped lifting as heavy because my arms literally arent fitting in a lot of my shirts (obv brag post). I dont want to have to buy new polos. you gotta be on the list my nigga, everyone here only benches anyway. Art only benches and drinks smoothies and kicks doors down as cardio. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: CrazeD_Z06 I might be stronger than some of you guys.. 5' 197lbs I was finally able to bust out 1 unassisted rep of 315 on the bench. I mentioned in the fitness forum that I've stopped lifting as heavy because my arms literally arent fitting in a lot of my shirts (obv brag post). I dont want to have to buy new polos. You've got me...I have no idea what I can flat bench. Maybe 265. Recently did 275 after a 5x5 workout on decline. You have me by 20lbs tho. I wish I was minus 20lbs lol.. My legs and butt are too fat My usual workout takes about an hour though.. Something typically like this: 3 x 8 flat bench @ 225 3 x 8 Incline @ 185 3 x 8 Decline @ 185 3 x 8 skullcrushers 3 x 8 tricep pulldown 3 x 8 Military Press 3 x 12 Dips Not sure how I could even spend 4 hours in the gym. I guess if I took like 5 minutes rest between each set? Maybe Crazy Cardio? I dont want to be there, so I kind of try to be out quickly though |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Nothing wrong with either controlled drops or being a dropper. Personally I control to about my knees and then let it go (I don't mean letting go of the bar) and reset. That video does appear a bit...hasty. You're supposed to drop once the bar passes the knees. |
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Originally Posted By: justthetip8.5 crazed... you're 5 foot 5? or 5 just feet tall? 5'9... Do I like 5'5" ? EDIT: Please verify by measuring doorway and height of TV |
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Originally Posted By: CrazeD_Z06 I wish I was minus 20lbs lol.. My legs and butt are too fat I've been preparing for UD2 and I am close to deploying it. As soon as I go back to the 531 I think I will. |
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Originally Posted By: Silock I probably spend more time exercising per week than 137. He's got the dedication to his lifting program down. If he tightened up the diet, he could shred up pretty quickly. I don't understand the hate. Originally Posted By: coach Hola Wayne, Don't trip on the diet, we aren't dieting YET. So you're good If you feel leaner that's really the key to adherence as it'll drive the motivation to keep going. Especially the longer you go without breaking the diet too badly. A big part of adherence is learning that breaking the diet isn't necessarily a negative thing. Enjoying time with friends, family, SOs, whatever it may be - is a HUGE part of life that should never be neglected or create negative feelings. Things started out well with a caloric surplus, but my bbc genetics took over and we started to pack on some weight after a few weeks and slowly have been pulling calories back to avoid cardio and maintain my weight. After this week we will begin to taper my down to 175-180's so I can compete at 181. Most likely in March if I can get a spot |
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Originally Posted By: 137 but my bbc genetics took over and we started to pack on some weight Big Beautiful... Californian? |
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Originally Posted By: 65_289_doe Originally Posted By: lunchbox Originally Posted By: Risky Business Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom When does one become an advanced lifter? Is related to how much goofy shit you wear while doing it? Sometimes Wayne looks like a damn mummy with all the shit he's got his boddy wrapped up with. There is an internet chart that OB1 goes by, it's posted in the fitness forum. I was surprised to find myself fit into the "intermediate" category. I therefore have no right to participate in any *lifting* discussions with the *advanced* csiers. brb, I have to find this link. http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.html Those are pretty ambitious numbers. I've been Advanced in four of them, could never touch Elite though. |
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Originally Posted By: Silock I probably spend more time exercising per week than 137. He's got the dedication to his lifting program down. If he tightened up the diet, he could shred up pretty quickly. I don't understand the hate. Just messing with him cause he's got a coach, tracks meals, records everything, etc.. I just eat when I'm hungry and use some workouts I found on bodybuilding.com If I had some real guidance and focus like 137 does, I could probably be Art lol. |
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Originally Posted By: lunchbox Originally Posted By: 137 but my bbc genetics took over and we started to pack on some weight Big Beautiful... Californian? Big black... Some argue that black genetics helps are person get bigger and stronger with less effort. |
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Originally Posted By: Adam G Originally Posted By: 65_289_doe Originally Posted By: lunchbox Originally Posted By: Risky Business Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom When does one become an advanced lifter? Is related to how much goofy shit you wear while doing it? Sometimes Wayne looks like a damn mummy with all the shit he's got his boddy wrapped up with. There is an internet chart that OB1 goes by, it's posted in the fitness forum. I was surprised to find myself fit into the "intermediate" category. I therefore have no right to participate in any *lifting* discussions with the *advanced* csiers. brb, I have to find this link. http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.html Those are pretty ambitious numbers. I've been Advanced in four of them, could never touch Elite though. For 1rm? I mean the principle is advanced is training(3-5 years), elite is it likely takes some genetics, right? At the lower weights it seems acheivable. |
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Originally Posted By: CrazeD_Z06 Originally Posted By: lunchbox Originally Posted By: 137 but my bbc genetics took over and we started to pack on some weight Big Beautiful... Californian? Big black... Some argue that black genetics helps are person get bigger and stronger with less effort. |
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Originally Posted By: CrazeD_Z06 Originally Posted By: lunchbox Originally Posted By: 137 but my bbc genetics took over and we started to pack on some weight Big Beautiful... Californian? Big black... Some argue that black genetics helps are person get bigger and stronger with less effort. Big Black Californian? |
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Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta Originally Posted By: Adam G Originally Posted By: 65_289_doe Originally Posted By: lunchbox Originally Posted By: Risky Business Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom When does one become an advanced lifter? Is related to how much goofy shit you wear while doing it? Sometimes Wayne looks like a damn mummy with all the shit he's got his boddy wrapped up with. There is an internet chart that OB1 goes by, it's posted in the fitness forum. I was surprised to find myself fit into the "intermediate" category. I therefore have no right to participate in any *lifting* discussions with the *advanced* csiers. brb, I have to find this link. http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.html Those are pretty ambitious numbers. I've been Advanced in four of them, could never touch Elite though. For 1rm? I mean the principle is advanced is training(3-5 years), elite is it likely takes some genetics, right? At the lower weights it seems acheivable. Yeah, definitely talking 1RM. I don't think you necessarily need genetics, but if you don't have them you're going to be working at it longer. My lifting partner in high school and college became a trainer and natural bodybuilder after we left college and never stopped pushing himself. When he started he was 6'3" and 175 or so and today he's probably in the 230 range. Nobody would accuse him of being a genetically gifted powerlifter. But he stuck at it pretty compulsively and I think he can crank out 4 or 5 reps at 405 on the bench, for example. That's more than elite according to that website. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: CrazeD_Z06 Originally Posted By: lunchbox Originally Posted By: 137 but my bbc genetics took over and we started to pack on some weight Big Beautiful... Californian? Big black... Some argue that black genetics helps are person get bigger and stronger with less effort. I would argue that too. Black guys seem to be great athletes with lesser effort. |
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Originally Posted By: Adam G Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta Originally Posted By: Adam G Originally Posted By: 65_289_doe Originally Posted By: lunchbox Originally Posted By: Risky Business Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom When does one become an advanced lifter? Is related to how much goofy shit you wear while doing it? Sometimes Wayne looks like a damn mummy with all the shit he's got his boddy wrapped up with. There is an internet chart that OB1 goes by, it's posted in the fitness forum. I was surprised to find myself fit into the "intermediate" category. I therefore have no right to participate in any *lifting* discussions with the *advanced* csiers. brb, I have to find this link. http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.html Those are pretty ambitious numbers. I've been Advanced in four of them, could never touch Elite though. For 1rm? I mean the principle is advanced is training(3-5 years), elite is it likely takes some genetics, right? At the lower weights it seems acheivable. Yeah, definitely talking 1RM. I don't think you necessarily need genetics, but if you don't have them you're going to be working at it longer. My lifting partner in high school and college became a trainer and natural bodybuilder after we left college and never stopped pushing himself. When he started he was 6'3" and 175 or so and today he's probably in the 230 range. Nobody would accuse him of being a genetically gifted powerlifter. But he stuck at it pretty compulsively and I think he can crank out 4 or 5 reps at 405 on the bench, for example. That's more than elite according to that website. SO in a sense, you agree with the rankings? "Intermediate An individual who has trained regularly for up to a couple years. Advanced An individual who has trained multiple years. Elite An athlete competing in strength sports. Keep in mind, the standards shown in the tables do not represent the highest level of strength performance possible." |
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Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta Originally Posted By: Adam G Originally Posted By: 65_289_doe Originally Posted By: lunchbox Originally Posted By: Risky Business Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom When does one become an advanced lifter? Is related to how much goofy shit you wear while doing it? Sometimes Wayne looks like a damn mummy with all the shit he's got his boddy wrapped up with. There is an internet chart that OB1 goes by, it's posted in the fitness forum. I was surprised to find myself fit into the "intermediate" category. I therefore have no right to participate in any *lifting* discussions with the *advanced* csiers. brb, I have to find this link. http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.html Those are pretty ambitious numbers. I've been Advanced in four of them, could never touch Elite though. For 1rm? I mean the principle is advanced is training(3-5 years), elite is it likely takes some genetics, right? At the lower weights it seems acheivable. It also depends on what else you do. I've been lifting for god knows how long, but my weights are still solidly in the intermediate, with a few in the advanced column. It takes me years and years to build strength because of how much soccer I play. You can't serve two masters. Well, you can, but if you do, you won't be as good as you can be at both at the same time. |
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Originally Posted By: Silock Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta Originally Posted By: Adam G Originally Posted By: 65_289_doe Originally Posted By: lunchbox Originally Posted By: Risky Business Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom When does one become an advanced lifter? Is related to how much goofy shit you wear while doing it? Sometimes Wayne looks like a damn mummy with all the shit he's got his boddy wrapped up with. There is an internet chart that OB1 goes by, it's posted in the fitness forum. I was surprised to find myself fit into the "intermediate" category. I therefore have no right to participate in any *lifting* discussions with the *advanced* csiers. brb, I have to find this link. http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.html Those are pretty ambitious numbers. I've been Advanced in four of them, could never touch Elite though. For 1rm? I mean the principle is advanced is training(3-5 years), elite is it likely takes some genetics, right? At the lower weights it seems acheivable. It also depends on what else you do. I've been lifting for god knows how long, but my weights are still solidly in the intermediate, with a few in the advanced column. It takes me years and years to build strength because of how much soccer I play. You can't serve two masters. Well, you can, but if you do, you won't be as good as you can be at both at the same time. True enough. I've noticed a bit of that, though at a much lower level of fitness. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Lol I love how he reaches so much "Everyone only benches" lol such a clown I almost never bench, but I am going too tonight in Wayne's honor. In the squat rack. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Lol I love how he reaches so much "Everyone only benches" lol such a clown it's okay art, I believe you are the strongest. I really do believe it, no sarcasm. You are the head natural in charge of clubsi. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Lol I love how he reaches so much "Everyone only benches" lol such a clown it's okay art, I believe you are the strongest. I really do believe it, no sarcasm. You are the head natural in charge of clubsi. Don't forget the fastest, dude can hammer out a 10 miler like no-one's business.... |
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Originally Posted By: lunchbox Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Lol I love how he reaches so much "Everyone only benches" lol such a clown I almost never bench, but I am going too tonight in Wayne's honor. In the squat rack. |
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Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Lol I love how he reaches so much "Everyone only benches" lol such a clown it's okay art, I believe you are the strongest. I really do believe it, no sarcasm. You are the head natural in charge of clubsi. Don't forget the fastest, dude can hammer out a 10 miler like no-one's business.... He must not be able to run! It's too fucking funny from you clowns |
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HOW is this bullshit seventeen pages laughwun. |
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Originally Posted By: pakisho HOW is this bullshit seventeen pages laughwun. |
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Who you callin dipshit, dipshit! |
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A few pages ago 137 came in crying and lashing out, really randomly. He made this thread about him. People laft1'd. After I defended him on a few points he turned on me....like cheeseburger splitting the shit out onto his lap, and messed all over me. Called me fat. It hurt. He said Art was weak. Art is on the way over there as we speak. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped He doesn't understand people discussing his gym life yet he posts it in it's entirety here every single day. Videos, pictures, shirtless pics and diet, Instagram and a blog. And yet "why are you interested in my shit, dawg!!" Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom Sometimes Wayne looks like a damn mummy with all the shit he's got his boddy wrapped up with. So much this. The guy works hard and lift heavy and sure likes to get naked for the camera. |
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Originally Posted By: BellRacer Originally Posted By: Flipped I think the strongest guys here are Art, Euphoric, Fireinthehole, Impulsive ??? Who am I missing? 137 I guess, but he tarded out. diesel Not sure if I qualify anymore. At 197lb I was in the elite range on B- 405 and D- 605 and was literally exactly at elite on S at 505. This was almost a decade ago though LOL. I was working out 5 days per week, eating 18 eggs per day plus other foods and tons of protein shakes, and I slept 8 hours per night. Last year I got pretty strong again, but then I met my GF who tries to make me stay home with her every night to cuddle and watch movies, and she likes to cook a lot of carbs for me so other girls won't like me anymore. LOL. I literally went to the gym about 5 times from Thanksgiving 2013 until July 2014. I recently started lifting again and I'm like 225lb at 6ft (aka fat ass fuck) and I'll never do a max out lift again. Too old and just don't care enough. Currently with perfect form I'm only at B- 285x6, S- 315x6, D- 405x6, and I have no plans to go any higher with my sketchy back discs and right shoulder is kinda ghey. In fact, I think I'm going to drop weight and increase reps to the 8-10 range. My plan is to lose about 10 lbs of fat, then lift a lot while keeping the diet semi clean through winter, and then cutting all the carbs out in the spring to get down around 200lb. |
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Originally Posted By: CrazeD_Z06 Originally Posted By: lunchbox Originally Posted By: 137 but my bbc genetics took over and we started to pack on some weight Big Beautiful... Californian? Big black... Some argue that black genetics helps are person get bigger and stronger with less effort. In that previous post, you realize I wasn't saying that you looked 5 foot 5 or 5 foot. You're post wrote that you were only five foot tall. That's why I was confused. |
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Pretty sure he openly juiced too. |
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Yeah, he was very knowledgable on the subject. Really smart guy. |
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I'm kind of sad/glad steroids aren't easily attainable to me since i might be tempted to do a cycle. |
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Lol just head over to golds in m city |
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I'm really quite surprised at the number of you that might consider it. I have absolutely zero interest in taking PED's of any kind. |
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Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom I'm really quite surprised at the number of you that might consider it. I have absolutely zero interest in taking PED's of any kind. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Lol just head over to golds in m city i rather forcefully rub my cock on a cheese grater then hit up m city |
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Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom I'm really quite surprised at the number of you that might consider it. I have absolutely zero interest in taking PED's of any kind. Im really suprised that people arent tryin to get clenbuterol. |
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I'm sure you used to hang out at all the same places I did |
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Took me a good while to read through this thread, but it was def worth it. lol at all the man boob pics and other pics. Thread needs renamed "midlife crisis thread of the century". |
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Originally Posted By: mayweather M.B.A. Took me a good while to read through this thread, but it was def worth it. lol at all the man boob pics and other pics. Thread needs renamed "midlife crisis thread of the century". |
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I wanna hear more about wayne saving children from fires |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover I wanna hear more about wayne saving children from fires Maybe the flame broiler at burger king |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover I wanna hear more about wayne saving children from fires Maybe the flame broiler at burger king And the hits just keep on coming |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover I wanna hear more about wayne saving children from fires Maybe the flame broiler at burger king Fuck you asshole! I just laughed so hard I woke my sleeping baby. |
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Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom I'm really quite surprised at the number of you that might consider it. |
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Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom I'm really quite surprised at the number of you that might consider it. I have absolutely zero interest in taking PED's of any kind. I'm tempted just for the recovery aspect. Being able to sustain playing soccer every single day would be amazing. As I've gotten older, I've had to cut back to every other day. |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover I wanna hear more about wayne saving children from fires Maybe the flame broiler at burger king |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover I wanna hear more about wayne saving children from fires I'm just waiting for your video showing you lift more than me. http://instagram.com/p/t6x43Cizgq/?modal=true |
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I just ate a whole bag of trail mix.. 7 servings at 140 calories each |
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Originally Posted By: CrazeD_Z06 I just ate a whole bag of trail mix.. 7 servings at 140 calories each top ramen had me fucked up when I was like "oh man only 26carbs, this is great" 1/3 serving. are you kidding me gtfo |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover I wanna hear more about wayne saving children from fires I'm just waiting for your video showing you lift more than me. http://instagram.com/p/t6x43Cizgq/?modal=true Nice! |
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Nice job Wayne! |
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That's some weight right there. Can I take 4 plates off please? |
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Why doensn't Art post up when he gets called out? He has posted tons of pics/vids previously, what's so different this time? |
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I'm still wondering why there's an 18 page dick measuring contest when there are no women to impress. |
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Originally Posted By: Risky Business Why doensn't Art post up when he gets called out? He has posted tons of pics/vids previously, what's so different this time? He's getting more mature? Doesn't have the time right now to take pictures for a forum? Plenty of potential reasons. |
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Originally Posted By: FireInTheWhole Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover I wanna hear more about wayne saving children from fires I'm just waiting for your video showing you lift more than me. http://instagram.com/p/t6x43Cizgq/?modal=true Nice! I clicked to see what the video was of, ended up looking at 137's girl lol |
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Awesome job Wayne. You have 525 easily! |
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I get that being strong is better than being a scrawny lil man but how strong does one have to be before they are satisfied? what good is benching or squatting a house if you work behind a computer screen 8 hours a day? |
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Originally Posted By: Risky Business Why doensn't Art post up when he gets called out? He has posted tons of pics/vids previously, what's so different this time? I'm part of waynes psyche now, he started raging about me in this thread before I even said hello to him. Also, I don't have anything to prove. |
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Originally Posted By: TenTwelve I'm still wondering why there's an 18 page dick measuring contest when there are no women to impress. You've been to a gym, right? #teamrogue #comeatmebro |
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Originally Posted By: justthetip8.5 Originally Posted By: FireInTheWhole Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover I wanna hear more about wayne saving children from fires I'm just waiting for your video showing you lift more than me. http://instagram.com/p/t6x43Cizgq/?modal=true Nice! I clicked to see what the video was of, ended up looking at 137's girl lol I can respect that |
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she's fine, you have good taste kudos |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Also, I don't have anything to prove. Sure, we can all see you're a large person and that you're naturally pretty strong and cut. Even if you never lifted I think you'd be stronger than me, for example...and it wouldn't take much to jack you up. However...whether or not you even lift anymore or whether or not you're "really strong" (relative to your own size and weight)...I'm not so sure. Yeah, you'll say that you have nothing to prove, and you might even believe it...but you really do. It's not unfair for people to expect proof after all that mouth. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: Risky Business Why doensn't Art post up when he gets called out? He has posted tons of pics/vids previously, what's so different this time? It's all just part of the bigger joke you are, so quick to shit on anyone who has advice or lends a helping hand because they're not walking around like an ambercrombie model that supposedly has big internet lifts. All this bullshit about "oh they talk the talk, but they don't walk the walk" while you're posting on csi in your fucking abdominal covered wheel chair, dead ass. Quote: I'm part of waynes psyche now, he started raging about me in this thread before I even said hello to him. You wish Quote: Also, I can't hit any of the numbers I said I can, but I can fuck up a door real quick |
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Originally Posted By: zones I get that being strong is better than being a scrawny lil man but how strong does one have to be before they are satisfied? what good is benching or squatting a house if you work behind a computer screen 8 hours a day? This was the realization that I came to when I was lifting heavy (for me) a few years back. I was doing a mid-400lb deadlift set and felt something pop in my front ribs. Likely a quickly dislocated rib that went back. It was warning enough. After that I integrated a ton more cardio and just try to maintain a good balance of strength and endurance that will hopefully carry me into middle age like a boss (and hopefully injury free). |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Also, I don't have anything to prove. Sure, we can all see you're a large person and that you're naturally pretty strong and cut. Even if you never lifted I think you'd be stronger than me, for example...and it wouldn't take much to jack you up. However...whether or not you even lift anymore or whether or not you're "really strong" (relative to your own size and weight)...I'm not so sure. Yeah, you'll say that you have nothing to prove, and you might even believe it...but you really do. It's not unfair for people to expect proof after all that mouth. See, this is where it gets hilarious. Now we have OB1 as a fitness expert, commenting on my physique and lifts and genetics and questioning whether or not I even lift bro. We really have come full circle on this forum. |
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Originally Posted By: Euphoric Awesome job Wayne. You have 525 easily! Biggups to Wayne. That's movin' weight. |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 After that I integrated a ton more cardio and just try to maintain a good balance of strength and endurance that will hopefully carry me into middle age like a boss (and hopefully injury free). |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Originally Posted By: zones I get that being strong is better than being a scrawny lil man but how strong does one have to be before they are satisfied? what good is benching or squatting a house if you work behind a computer screen 8 hours a day? This was the realization that I came to when I was lifting heavy (for me) a few years back. I was doing a mid-400lb deadlift set and felt something pop in my front ribs. Likely a quickly dislocated rib that went back. It was warning enough. After that I integrated a ton more cardio and just try to maintain a good balance of strength and endurance that will hopefully carry me into middle age like a boss (and hopefully injury free). Exactly. You don't need to deadlift a pick up truck to look good. Would much rather run/swim/bike than sit at a gym for 4 hours lifting weights. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Also, I don't have anything to prove. Sure, we can all see you're a large person and that you're naturally pretty strong and cut. Even if you never lifted I think you'd be stronger than me, for example...and it wouldn't take much to jack you up. However...whether or not you even lift anymore or whether or not you're "really strong" (relative to your own size and weight)...I'm not so sure. Yeah, you'll say that you have nothing to prove, and you might even believe it...but you really do. It's not unfair for people to expect proof after all that mouth. Now we have OB1 as a fitness expert, commenting on my physique and lifts and genetics and questioning whether or not I even lift bro. We really have come full circle on this forum. Not claiming to be an expert. I've been doing this a while now...and, in case you haven't noticed, it isn't rocket science. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Johnso26 After that I integrated a ton more cardio and just try to maintain a good balance of strength and endurance that will hopefully carry me into middle age like a boss (and hopefully injury free). Oh, and around that time, someone invited me to a 5k run. I did it cold because I was "in shape." Well, I did it, but I felt like complete shit during/afterward. That was unacceptable and a little scary considering I started my fitness life running pretty effectively. I felt heavy, I felt slow and I was probably headed toward unhealthy IMO. Anyway, back to shitfest. |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Johnso26 After that I integrated a ton more cardio and just try to maintain a good balance of strength and endurance that will hopefully carry me into middle age like a boss (and hopefully injury free). Oh, and around that time, someone invited me to a 5k run. I did it cold because I was "in shape." Well, I did it, but I felt like complete shit during/afterward. That was unacceptable and a little scary considering I started my fitness life running pretty effectively. I felt heavy, I felt slow and I was probably headed toward unhealthy IMO. Anyway, back to shitfest. My goal is to be in sub 2 hour half marathon shape for the rest of my life. |
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Well, stay safe. I can't imagine the human body can take that without injury for an extended period of time. |
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Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom My goal is to be in sub 2 hour half marathon shape for the rest of my life. My goal is to stay off of daily meds for as longs possible (never been on them), not wheeze while playing with my young children, and maintain some semblance of tone. |
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Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Johnso26 After that I integrated a ton more cardio and just try to maintain a good balance of strength and endurance that will hopefully carry me into middle age like a boss (and hopefully injury free). Oh, and around that time, someone invited me to a 5k run. I did it cold because I was "in shape." Well, I did it, but I felt like complete shit during/afterward. That was unacceptable and a little scary considering I started my fitness life running pretty effectively. I felt heavy, I felt slow and I was probably headed toward unhealthy IMO. Anyway, back to shitfest. My goal is to be in sub 2 hour half marathon shape for the rest of my life. My goal is to be able to run a 1/2 marathon sub 2 hr ONCE |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Well, stay safe. I can't imagine the human body can take that without injury for an extended period of time. People do it all the time. If I were injury prone I think I would have seen it by now. Plus, a half marathon isn't that far. |
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Originally Posted By: zakcits Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Johnso26 After that I integrated a ton more cardio and just try to maintain a good balance of strength and endurance that will hopefully carry me into middle age like a boss (and hopefully injury free). Oh, and around that time, someone invited me to a 5k run. I did it cold because I was "in shape." Well, I did it, but I felt like complete shit during/afterward. That was unacceptable and a little scary considering I started my fitness life running pretty effectively. I felt heavy, I felt slow and I was probably headed toward unhealthy IMO. Anyway, back to shitfest. My goal is to be in sub 2 hour half marathon shape for the rest of my life. My goal is to be able to run a 1/2 marathon sub 2 hr ONCE You will...next race I bet. |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 After that I integrated a ton more cardio and just try to maintain a good balance of strength and endurance that will hopefully carry me into middle age like a boss (and hopefully injury free). Same here. I'm still about 90% of my max strength, but much lighter/faster. I can still put up some solid numbers in my lifts and then go for an 8 mile run after or play a full hockey game and piss people off because I'm "that guy" who doesn't gas. |
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Ive always been a proponent to well rounded fitness. Not just all out strength(or cardio). I clearly remember getting a hard time for suggesting some needed more cardio. "have you squated heavy bro, thats my cardio" On the other side of things. Training and living that "marathon lifestyle" is not generally healthy for most people either. |
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Originally Posted By: Impulsive Originally Posted By: Johnso26 After that I integrated a ton more cardio and just try to maintain a good balance of strength and endurance that will hopefully carry me into middle age like a boss (and hopefully injury free). Same here. I'm still about 90% of my max strength, but much lighter/faster. I can still put up some solid numbers in my lifts and then go for an 8 mile run after or play a full hockey game and piss people off because I'm "that guy" who doesn't gas. Let's rub bellies. But seriously, that's how to do it. I think a lot of lifters think they're going to lose all this strength immediately upon getting into cardio. They won't. Sure, they'll lose that 10% or whatever, but they'll also be able to see their abs and ride a 100 mile bike race, go to sleep, and get up and do it again the next day lol testimonial. |
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Originally Posted By: Euphoric Ive always been a proponent to well rounded fitness. Not just all out strength(or cardio). I clearly remember getting a hard time for suggesting some needed more cardio. "have you squated heavy bro, thats my cardio" That might have even been me at one point. I was convinced heavy deads and squats were all I needed for cardio (and I had read something to that effect). I learned the semi-hard way that I was wrong. |
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This thread has been great motivation to get my ass back into the gym. /soreasfuckthismorning |
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Well, I was WRONG. OK, SIRKID?!?! ARE YOU HAPPY?!? |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY This thread has been great motivation to get my ass back into the gym. /soreasfuckthismorning Clen inbound. |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY This thread has been great motivation to get my ass back into the gym. /soreasfuckthismorning Clen inbound. I don't wanna stroke out |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY This thread has been great motivation to get my ass back into the gym. /soreasfuckthismorning |
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I should hope fucking not!! Even a bitch like me hits that. I went for 305 squat the other day...and couldn't get my ass down. |
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Who you callin a bitch, bitch? I haven't been doing any lifting for several months because fat and lazy. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped I should hope fucking not!! Even a bitch like me hits that. I went for 305 squat the other day...and couldn't get my ass down. Then back'er down OB and work up to it. I don't want you to crush one of those garage dogs when you fall over. |
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I called ME a bitch. I did...I managed 300 the week before and felt good. I was wrong. I rocked forward just enough to fail. Working weight 5x5 squat is 275. |
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Last night as I was finishing my pullup sets at the park I daydreamed I was hanging on for life on the side of a cliff...Wayne lay on the ground below, dead as a baby crushed by a door mule kicked by Art while Johnso had fainted jogging for help. |
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Originally Posted By: Tennis Perv Last night as I was finishing my pullup sets at the park I daydreamed I was hanging on for life on the side of a cliff...Wayne lay on the ground below, dead as a baby crushed by a door mule kicked by Art while Johnso had fainted jogging for help. Hey fucko, that was a long time ago. I'll run your shit ragged and do burpies on your old lady afterward. |
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Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Originally Posted By: Tennis Perv Last night as I was finishing my pullup sets at the park I daydreamed I was hanging on for life on the side of a cliff...Wayne lay on the ground below, dead as a baby crushed by a door mule kicked by Art while Johnso had fainted jogging for help. Hey fucko, that was a long time ago. I'll run your shit ragged and do burpies on your old lady afterward. I didn't say WHY you fainted. Maybe as you were jogging you saw OB1 and he actually IS 5'10". |
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Originally Posted By: Tennis Perv Originally Posted By: Johnso26 Originally Posted By: Tennis Perv Last night as I was finishing my pullup sets at the park I daydreamed I was hanging on for life on the side of a cliff...Wayne lay on the ground below, dead as a baby crushed by a door mule kicked by Art while Johnso had fainted jogging for help. Hey fucko, that was a long time ago. I'll run your shit ragged and do burpies on your old lady afterward. I didn't say WHY you fainted. Maybe as you were jogging you saw OB1 and he actually IS 5'10". |
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Originally Posted By: Nick in SD 07Sti Since this thread is a shit show. I hit a PR this morning. 315x6 deadlift. No roids! good shit man |
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Here's a crazy story....I was recently with a CSi member. The subject came up...he said he was 5-9. I was taller. This is months old...so maybe I shrunk since then. |
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Were you in high heels though? |
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Running shoes. |
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They were wedges asshole. |
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Well at least you proved that you are a head taller than the other CSI member! |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Also, I don't have anything to prove. Yeah, we've all accepted you can't run 10 miles, nor beat 21 minutes on a 5km(or whatever the gauntlet was) |
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Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Also, I don't have anything to prove. Yeah, we've all accepted you can't run 10 miles, nor beat 21 minutes on a 5km(or whatever the gauntlet was) Nothing I love more with a dog with a huge bark and a weak ass bite. |
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Weak bite? You challenging him to a pie eating contest? |
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ITT: csi no longer believes Art is the strongest. |
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Waiting on video proof |
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Having nothing to prove rhetoric inbound. |
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I remember Art said he was going to serve a tennis ball at his g/f's head and knock a beer can off. And video it. Or something like that. Did he ever do it? HUH?????/////????/// |
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*Will prove that he can jump onto a short wall *Will not prove that he actually lifts what he claims |
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youre reaching too far. You gonna end up getting crossed up tho. |
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Unless those are not facts then there's no reach at all. Did you or did you not post a video proving you could jump on a wall? Are you or are you not declining to prove what you say you can lift? (You haven't claimed numbers, but we have a minimum...you say you can out lift 137) |
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Not only have i claimed numbers, I've bragged numbers and made fun of people who lift less. I've also posted hundreds of pictures and videos in the past decade and the only person who was even on my playing field (well in jackednss) was a pre show diesel. Hell I posted a bench press video while drunk This is hilarious now though, especially the people trying to talk shit |
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Amazing that none of us have ever seen these mysterious videos. |
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Oh, and Manu |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Amazing that none of us have ever seen these mysterious videos. We are not peers. |
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What's up with Manu? I remember he looked pretty big at one point. Does he still work out? |
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I haven't requested your respect. These videos don't exist. And if you so willingly posted video then either repost them or post new ones. |
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lol, art has said many times he's not the caricature of himself he portrays online. Im sure half the shit he says is said in jest. Not to discredit his size or strength... but to actually ask for videos of him running 4 minute miles, backwards, with 10 burning babies on his back is a little crazy |
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Originally Posted By: Joeyballs What's up with Manu? I remember he looked pretty big at one point. Does he still work out? I'm sure he does he was pretty legit Not like these blog stars these days |
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It's funny watching ob1 think he's finally on the offensive |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 It's funny watching ob1 think he's finally on the offensive |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 It's funny watching ob1 think he's finally on the offensive |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 It's funny watching ob1 think he's finally on the offensive I'd still be taller than you |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 It's funny watching ob1 think he's finally on the offensive I'd still be taller than you Meanwhile a child on your shoulders would force you to collapse. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped [You're only "advantage" which you had no power over. Meanwhile a child on your shoulders would force you to collapse. I think finishing high school puts me ahead, too |
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I'm going to guess, that being that Art is about 25-30 pounds heavier than me and has lifted for a while and is also youger, I'm sure he can put up at least some solid numbers. I mean, I don't think the average lifter is going to put up much more than a 300/400/500 type lift. I've lifted some big/bigger numbers before and still put up close to them. I see no reason why a younger, physically bigger guy couldn't. Not trying to defend him much, because he can be Uncle Rico, but I don't doubt he can move some decent weight. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 It's funny watching ob1 think he's finally on the offensive Not only am I challenging you to post this proof you claim you've posted...I'm now calling you a liar. But hey...deflect. Make fun, laugh and completely avoid the fact that you're being called out by multiple members and your ONLY high five buddy wears skinny jeans and couldn't lift a tuna can more than once. |
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Uncle rico Lmao. |
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Originally Posted By: WNDYCTYone As long as the child was saved from a burning building it's ok tho. Wayne has given us some of our best memes... For that, we should all be thankful. |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 I think finishing high school puts me ahead, too |
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Ob1 calling someone a liar Is this real life Badass out |
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Look, I can't help that I'm the one. |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Ob1 calling someone a liar Is this real life Badass out Well, we do have you both. Although Art never lies daily like you do. |
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So many e-adversaries, so little intellect "You're all liars!!!" |
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Srsly, what's the best way to improve my grip strength? |
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You're the one claiming I'm a liar but couldn't possibly mention a single proven lie. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped You're the one claiming I'm a liar but couldn't possibly mention a single proven lie. Wall tiles Seek that internet validation |
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Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Srsly, what's the best way to improve my grip strength? |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Originally Posted By: Flipped You're the one claiming I'm a liar but couldn't possibly mention a single proven lie. Wall tiles Seek that internet validation Wall tiles isn't it. |
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Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Srsly, what's the best way to improve my grip strength? |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Srsly, what's the best way to improve my grip strength? Badass out |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Srsly, what's the best way to improve my grip strength? |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Srsly, what's the best way to improve my grip strength? But foreal... Cross grip? Straps? I would take this to the FF, but this thread is is hot right now and I'm genuinely interested in addressing this. I'm to the point where both hands are significantly weak (surgery on both wrists). I have the 3 rubber grip rings (I think Johnso initially mentioned them). I'm starting back on them and also just hanging for time. It's pretty frustrating. I can only do about 5 pullups until I feel failure coming on with my grip and due to the wrist I don't like to push it. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Srsly, what's the best way to improve my grip strength? |
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Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Srsly, what's the best way to improve my grip strength? But foreal... Cross grip? Straps? I would take this to the FF, but this thread is is hot right now and I'm genuinely interested in addressing this. I'm to the point where both hands are significantly weak (surgery on both wrists). I have the 3 rubber grip rings (I think Johnso initially mentioned them). I'm starting back on them and also just handing for time. It's pretty frustrating. I can only do about 5 pullups until I feel failure coming on with my grip and due to the wrist I don't like to push it. I don't use straps at all. I forgot that I also shrug much heavier weight than DL...that's also cross grip. Cross grip being right hand under and left hand over on DL. |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 third stress leave incoming |
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you leave because of the way you act here. |
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This is the best thread we have had in months - good show, boys! Keep it up!! |
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Grip strength - I just do everything I can without straps. Once I'm done my deads, I move to shrugs and exhaust my grip on purpose. Only then I'll use straps to concentrate on the shrug. After shrugs, I'll just do a couple sets of wrist curls. Also, buy some rubber grip trainers off amazon. Use them a couple times per week. |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 you leave because of the way you act here. |
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Originally Posted By: Impulsive Grip strength - I just do everything I can without straps. Once I'm done my deads, I move to shrugs and exhaust my grip on purpose. |
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Originally Posted By: Joeyballs but to actually ask for videos of him running 4 minute miles, backwards, with 10 burning babies on his back is a little crazy hes taking the "it was all trolling" stance now? |
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Originally Posted By: Impulsive Grip strength - I just do everything I can without straps. Once I'm done my deads, I move to shrugs and exhaust my grip on purpose. Only then I'll use straps to concentrate on the shrug. After shrugs, I'll just do a couple sets of wrist curls. Also, buy some rubber grip trainers off amazon. Use them a couple times per week. Although the surgery fucked me up, I think straps in the past had a lot to do with my shitty grip right now. At first I used gloves because my hands would get tore up, then straps b/c I wasn't a fan of gloves....then I never looked back. I plan to use straps much less moving forward. I may do gloves again, but I'm just not a fan. |
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If you can't do gloves I recommend wrapping the bar with tennis wrap to prevent skin damage or pain. It'll absorb your sweat...unless you're in a gym, in which case you're fucked. I wear gloves and I still get my skin rolled and worn. |
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I don't use gloves, but the heavy deads do hurt the hands a bit. I should buy chalk or something similar. Even gripping a bar where someone used chalk before is much easier. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Srsly, what's the best way to improve my grip strength? |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Srsly, what's the best way to improve my grip strength? Not sure what you mean by "better than you". I'm just calling you out. Deflect as you will and try to make this about me. |
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Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Srsly, what's the best way to improve my grip strength? farmer walks, pull ups, bent over rows, rowing in general, deadlifts, static holds of weight, rack pulls with a pause, chest supported rows with a pause, etc, etc, etc no straps of course. |
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Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Srsly, what's the best way to improve my grip strength? Towel or rope pullups, weighted if need be. |
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Shrugs are awesome for grip strength. Also, use chalk instead of gloves. |
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My "not working out form" lol This is a hall of fame thread |
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You've been called out. You're not answering the call. You're claiming you've posted vids that only you have seen. This is an epic thread. |
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OB1 is all over Art today! WE WANT THE VIDS! |
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I'm just going to say how fucking awesome it is to be back in the gym after a year+ leave. Worked out at home a bit but no serious weights, well almost no weights at all actually (mostly pushups/pullups, ect.) so I'm feeling good this past month. #feelsbro |
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Originally Posted By: Euphoric Originally Posted By: Joeyballs but to actually ask for videos of him running 4 minute miles, backwards, with 10 burning babies on his back is a little crazy hes taking the "it was all trolling" stance now? People are calling me out on fitness and strength? Holy shit is there even someone who looks better than me or is bigger than me right now? I'm confused. We have a chubby guy, a mini-man who recently found fitness and an old time fitness troll who never produced pictures calling ME out? A guy who has the most individual pictures and videos of any member of the forum? /laugh |
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Heh, thanks, I'd like to think so. My diet is pretty..clean, I guess, normally so even not working out at all I'm not a risk really to gain any unnecessary weight. Just would start looking a little on the 'soft' side. Just feels good to toss some weights around now. I need to eat more though, would love to put on 20 pounds. |
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except Ive posted them multiple times including the original fitness thread(which we have been through many times). But nice deflection attempt rico. make with the vids mariusz. lets see that world class strength. Still waiting for you at the border too. Im cold and lonely. |
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Quote: We have a chubby guy, a mini-man who recently found fitness and an old time fitness troll who never produced pictures calling ME out? who moved this thread, it's too funny to be banished over here! |
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This thread should be titled "if Art hurt your feelings raise your hand" |
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So its official. 137 is stronger than you. |
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Link to Euphoric pics/vids? I've been here a while with no recollection of them. |
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Originally Posted By: Euphoric So its official. 137 is stronger than you. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: Euphoric So its official. 137 is stronger than you. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: Euphoric So its official. 137 is stronger than you. must hurt right in the feels a guy almost 10 years older than you lifts more. but hey you're a LARGE HUMAN so you got that going for you. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: Euphoric So its official. 137 is stronger than you. must hurt right in the feels a guy almost 10 years older than you lifts more. but hey you're a LARGE HUMAN so you got that going for you. Btw I'm 29 |
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ME TOO BRO! |
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10/29/84. My 20s are gone soon. |
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Originally Posted By: Euphoric the biggest loud mouth is deflecting and side stepping here. Not surprised. Are you saying you want a shot at the title? |
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Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC 10/29/84. My 20s are gone soon. |
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it's okay, we'll just draw an invisible line in the forum "people who lift, and people who think they lift because kale gives them vascular pumps" |
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Originally Posted By: Euphoric the biggest loud mouth is deflecting and side stepping here. Not surprised. My size and physique is no secret mr "I posted pictures in 2005 you must of missed them though" |
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What good is deadlifting 525lbs if you can't play hopscotch with your kids? |
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oh nevermind I found some of your recent bench footage art... "I posted on the forums my best lift to date back in 2005 when I won the title of csi's fitness forum about 720, going for 725 today" http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/os-725-pound-bench-press-20141007-story.html |
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Originally Posted By: 137 I could go look up your youtube channel right now if it still exists and only find your drinking videos and maybe the one of you jumping up a 3ft brick wall while your girlfriend at the time declared you an idiot. |
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Originally Posted By: Tennis Perv What good is deadlifting 525lbs if you can't play hopscotch with your kids? did I appear hurt to you? don't you have some kind of scandal involving someone elses business to be involved in? or better yet how does one play hopscotch with their kids when their wife ends up getting custody while you increase your post count? |
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Originally Posted By: 137 oh nevermind I found some of your recent bench footage art... "I posted on the forums my best lift to date back in 2005 when I won the title of csi's fitness forum about 720, going for 725 today" http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/os-725-pound-bench-press-20141007-story.html http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/...ff-7fa1806fec4d |
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Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC 10/29/84. My 20s are gone soon. My wife's birthday is 10/29! *high five* |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Tennis Perv What good is deadlifting 525lbs if you can't play hopscotch with your kids? did I appear hurt to you? don't you have some kind of scandal involving someone elses business to be involved in? or better yet how does one play hopscotch with their kids when their wife ends up getting custody while you increase your post count? Dude I'm just playing. You don't have to |
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I'm not longer asking for proof. You've proven when backed against a corner that you won't produce shit. As for a PM...meh, was just saying thanks for the advice. You can't ignore a thanks. You read it, you own it. It's yours forever. |
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Originally Posted By: Silock So many people in here need to Art was talking made shit to running members as recently as 2-3 months ago. If he kept his bullshit to just the lifting posts that'd be fine. |
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Originally Posted By: 137 oh nevermind I found some of your recent bench footage art... "I posted on the forums my best lift to date back in 2005 when I won the title of csi's fitness forum about 720, going for 725 today" http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/os-725-pound-bench-press-20141007-story.html |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover So many people I've upset so many Lolz Yep You're funny, but the joke gets old. I know it's thrilling to see you have an impact on others, but most people get over that around age...4. |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 there's that one swim meet pic. that's it. I've been here 14 fucking years and he's been saying the same thing since like 01 That's literally it though besides his HS yearbook picture |
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I thought nothing existed? Now you magically remember something? you are one to talk lel mouth. still waiting on that video showing youre stronger than 137. |
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Quote: I thought nothing existed? Now you magically remember something? You sure hung around the fitness thread and forum posting critiques without posting any selfies though. There's a decade worth of photos of me on the forum and I'm sure saved to your girls hard drive too. |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 there's that one swim meet pic. that's it. I've been here 14 fucking years and he's been saying the same thing since like 01 yup, but according to OB1 he is one of the strongest here LAWL |
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Originally Posted By: Risky Business Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 there's that one swim meet pic. that's it. I've been here 14 fucking years and he's been saying the same thing since like 01 yup, but according to OB1 he is one of the strongest here LAWL |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover But with decades of mouth Only 5 years of the same for you, right? |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Risky Business Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 there's that one swim meet pic. that's it. I've been here 14 fucking years and he's been saying the same thing since like 01 yup, but according to OB1 he is one of the strongest here LAWL He is stronger than your average bear, one of the strongest here? lel |
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Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover But with decades of mouth Only 5 years of the same for you, right? Who's bigger? Certainly not your cross eyed marsupial looking ass |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: Euphoric the biggest loud mouth is deflecting and side stepping here. Not surprised. Are you saying you want a shot at the title? Was that a Lethal Weapon reference? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnSHQHXvaTU#t=5s |
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Originally Posted By: Maximus So no proof from art after all this |
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Srsly...are you stronger than Wayne right now? I'd venture to say you'd crush him on bench, but the other 2 big lifts could be close. |
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Yes, I am. |
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And yes, especially on bench and OHP |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: Maximus So no proof from art after all this The only person who has seen them is you apparently. And things change over years. Thats the entire point. |
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Things do change but, one thing remains constant...I'm a large and jacked dude who is far more athletic than you and can beat you in any measure of physicality devised. |
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Deflection again. Mysterious videos. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover And yes, ONLY on bench and OHP |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Things do change but, one thing remains constant...I'm a large and jacked dude who is far more athletic than you and can beat you in any measure of physicality devised. bullshit nobody self fellates here like ob1 |
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Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover And yes, ONLY on bench and OHP Unless I suffer a horrible injury you will never achieve |
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I'll fly art out to settle this donut contest |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 I'll fly art out to settle this donut contest Edit - plus I need at least 5 drinks per hour |
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My brother solved the no gym for home dilemma. |
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Is that a 7 foot wall climb? I climb the gunks. No rope. In the winter. Handstrength |
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Mostly for the kids, but you can have small/difficult holds and stay low to the ground. |
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Hey guys, here's a pic of me with my All Natural lifting club. I'm in front. |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Solid setup. Even better is the badass trails right outside their door. Just did 7 miles and am now drinking beer and eating pizza from the brewery down the road. Life is goooood. |
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I'm also drinking. True story. |
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Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover Originally Posted By: 137 Originally Posted By: Art Time Lover And yes, ONLY on bench and OHP Unless I suffer a horrible injury you will never achieve I'll be waiting little man. It's cool that in your hayday you were the strongest and biggest, now you spend most of your time huffing your lungs at wrongdoers for a living. Probably couldn't run up and down a court now if you wanted to. |
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Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom Originally Posted By: Flipped Solid setup. Even better is the badass trails right outside their door. Just did 7 miles and am now drinking beer and eating pizza from the brewery down the road. Life is goooood. Jelly |
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Wayne talking about running 1/2 off donuts! let's go |
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Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Wayne talking about running 1/2 off donuts! let's go I'm not as fast as the people who only train running, but I think doing a 10k (actually a hair further) in a few minutes over an hour is pretty good for someone sitting at 200lbs. (posted the proof plenty of times as well.) |
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well fuck it lets go run |
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In my hayday? Lol There are recent pictures of me on this forum right now. Little man? I'm way bigger than you Listen bitch tits, you're barking up the wrong tree. |
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No, he's right. I'll bet you money he is stronger in squat and DL than you are. But you'll deflect and lie like the fuck that you are. Mysterious videos!! |
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2 things. This idiot can't even operate a camera phone. And he hasn't done shrugs in years. Yeah, he did some curls to pump the arms before a pic (hence the shaky pics) and he has pecs. But nothing here looks like you have been lifting much recently. This is what I suspect is your genetically normal look is. Nothing to see here. |
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The funniest part would be if you were standing next to me |
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I'm sure you're used to standing alone without company. Post all those videos you say exist bro? |
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Post yourself standing next to a normal sized door |
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I get this whole thing, I do but I don't think this is a paper tiger here. Guy is 6'3" and is clearly in shape. He thinks he's a brick wall, but can we stop pretending the rest of these lifting accomplishments are untouchable? So call him out, that's fair, but don't assume because a video isn't posted immediately, he's weak. I've dled 500 and squatted 405. Benched 330 and chin upswith 45s strapped to my waist. I do 90-95% of that today, then run 8 miles with sprints. Keep reality in check. |
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Originally Posted By: Impulsive I get this whole thing, I do but I don't think this is a paper tiger here. Guy is 6'3" and is clearly in shape. He thinks he's a brick wall, but can we stop pretending the rest of these lifting accomplishments are untouchable? Who said they were? Quote: So call him out, that's fair, but don't assume because a video isn't posted immediately, he's weak. It's not that anyone thinks he's weak, I don't think arts weak. Not in the least bit, even if he's not able to throw up his ole ballgame numbers during a pickup lifting session fuck at least show you are capable of 75 percent of the strength your internet mouth has. Quote: I've dled 500 and squatted 405. Benched 330 and chin upswith 45s strapped to my waist. I do 90-95% of that today, then run 8 miles with sprints. Right, but you don't pop up anywhere telling anyone how much better than them you are, and you look like a manlet tank as well so you probably would be capable of doing that still if you didn't run so godamned much. But that's what you enjoy, and there is nothing wrong with that either. Plus you've constantly mentioned that you have some previous injuries that prevent you from ever getting close to those numbers again, on top of the fact you've never once said you're capable right now to drop what you're doing, head down into the garage and hit those numbers. Art can do all of those things, throw the touchdown hail mary and run to catch it without breaking a sweat all with kale pumps Quote: Keep reality in check. We're trying to, do keep throwing fuel on the fire or duck out if you don't want to stay for the show. |
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I'm so glad I'm not strong enough, don't run enough and don't swim enough to get into any of these contests. |
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I've never used a injury as an excuse. Bench 315 after shoulder surgery and do sets with 400dl (that maxes my iron). Surgery was a fix, never an excuse. It's not a contest, so everyone stop claiming victory. Honestly, eating and gaining strength is the easy part. I'm not fucking Al Bundy. But some people are becoming so anti-Art, their acting exactly the same. |
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End of the day, could care less, will continue to make gains and continue to be berated by a guy with no proof he's capable of such other than his nice chest and height. And if I ever got peeled all he would have at this point is his height. |
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I said multiple times there's no denying that he's strong and large. I just don't even know if the guy really even lifts anymore or that he lifts heavy. I seriously doubt that he needs to run his mouth the way he does. |
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Originally Posted By: Art and Soul Quote: And if I ever got peeled |
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Raise your hand if you want to address me in the fitness forum. |
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You haven't scarred me at all. In fact you have helped me on occasion. I have never doubted that you know how to do all of this (I've said many times that it isn't rocket science)...but your mouth is tired and I am convinced you can't back up your talk physically anymore. I'm sure you could if you got back to work tho. |
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Quote: you can't back up your talk physically anymore. |
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And? I've seen pics from when you were like 20 and built. It's a far cry from the pics you posted recently. |
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That is false |
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When you're done comparing them privately to make sure, then repost the younger Art jacked pics. |
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Sure thing. This is the very first picture of myself I posted ever on CSi. 2005ish OG fitness thread |
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Those are random. I could post glamor shots too spanning the same time frame. You were saying something though? |
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You came a long way...I haven't seen the first pic before. That said...you're more fit in the 2nd to last pic. Your core is clearly stronger there. |
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Except for the fact that I'm stronger now... My chest is shaved and I have a tan in the 2nd to last pic versus all natural in the last. That's 2008/9 versus two months ago btw |
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lol at the picture analysis. I'll rule on this right now: Art looks about the same with a vastly different lighting setup and body hair setup for the photos. If anything, he looks a little leaner as he's not a child any more and likely has his diet cleaned up compared to a 20 year old's "diet." |
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Originally Posted By: Silock I'm so glad I'm not strong enough, don't run enough and don't swim enough to get into any of these contests. Isn't that the point? Arts entire position is that he's superior simply because he's theoretically bigger and stronger or even leaner. He demands respect off of this alone. |
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Damn son, you were puffy. How much did you weigh in that first pic? |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Silock I'm so glad I'm not strong enough, don't run enough and don't swim enough to get into any of these contests. Isn't that the point? Arts entire position is that he's superior simply because he's theoretically bigger and stronger or even leaner. He demands respect off of this alone. there is no "theoretical" anything. I'm nearly 6'4" and I'm a lean jacked 220 pounds. I'm literally the size of an NFL linebacker. Deal with it son. |
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Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC Damn son, you were puffy. How much did you weigh in that first pic? I think I was 242 pounds in that picture. There are more, I used to have all the pictures saved but I'm having trouble finding them all now. |
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Yet OB1 the geneticist has said many times that my "genes" keep me lean and "my genetic size" etc Of course, he only just started fitness so he was unaware of the pictures of me back in the day at a hefty 240-250 pounds. The old picture of me with the backwards hat was my leanest @ a crazy ripped 207 |
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Originally Posted By: Silock I'm so glad I'm not strong enough, don't run enough and don't swim enough to get into any of these contests. I'm not trying to be the best at exercising!!! |
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Originally Posted By: Art and Soul Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Silock I'm so glad I'm not strong enough, don't run enough and don't swim enough to get into any of these contests. Isn't that the point? Arts entire position is that he's superior simply because he's theoretically bigger and stronger or even leaner. He demands respect off of this alone. there is no "theoretical" anything. I'm nearly 6'4" and I'm a lean jacked 220 pounds. I'm literally the size of an NFL linebacker. Deal with it son. if you're 6-4, 220 and only benching 220 then you're no better than a 5-5, 130 guy benching 130. |
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If that makes you feel better |
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Its true. That is why there are weight classes in all respective sports to strength and size. Including lifting. Again...2 different size people reaching their BW on bench have accomplished the same thing...regardless of their respective bench numbers. |
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If that makes you feel better about your diminutive stature |
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It does. Because its true. All your mouth and average results relative to your size doesn't change a thing. |
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blah blah blah I'm much bigger and stronger than you. In fact, I'm sure a lot of people are. Learn to cope. |
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I just wanted to pull a clubsi and let you guys know I'm done with this thread, I'll be in my little thread down there lifting weights. continue on with the dick measuring. |
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Originally Posted By: Art and Soul If that makes you feel better about your diminutive stature You've unlocked the key to the universe |
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Originally Posted By: Art and Soul blah blah blah I'm much bigger and stronger than you. In fact, I'm sure a lot of people are. Learn to cope. I care about %'s and where I fall within them. Based on that I suspect you're no more successful than me. By your logic I should talk shit to every woman and child out there...because I'm stronger than all of them. Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6 Originally Posted By: Art and Soul If that makes you feel better about your diminutive stature You've unlocked the key to the universe |
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You care about %s because you're basically a dwarf and you need to find some sliding scale that can give you a false sense of measuring up |
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I care because anyone not stupid understands weight class. |
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Sure, I understand weight class but, this isn't a handicapped drag race or golf tourney. There's a bar with weight on it, I move more of it than you. If I punched you in the chest you would most likely die. |
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Originally Posted By: Impulsive I get this whole thing, I do but I don't think this is a paper tiger here. Guy is 6'3" and is clearly in shape. He thinks he's a brick wall, but can we stop pretending the rest of these lifting accomplishments are untouchable? So call him out, that's fair, but don't assume because a video isn't posted immediately, he's weak. I've dled 500 and squatted 405. Benched 330 and chin upswith 45s strapped to my waist. I do 90-95% of that today, then run 8 miles with sprints. Keep reality in check. But see, you're a large male too. You can bench 3 plates, dead 500 pounds and run 10 miles and not have to have a blog, youtube channel, avatar, etc all about it. And, no homo, you look the part too. And, much like me, before you leaned out you were just large but still hefty. It's like wolfsburg too. He's always been able to out bench me. I think he repped my max like 3-4 times. (365) |
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Originally Posted By: Art and Soul Sure, I understand weight class but, this isn't a handicapped drag race or golf tourney. There's a bar with weight on it, I move more of it than you. If I punched you in the chest you would most likely die. All weight lifting is about is personal achievement. That is where weight class comes in. Comparing head to head is for nothing. It's not is if people ever really do anything with all the weight they push, so its all for personal goals. |
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I am clearly the hottest guy in here |
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Originally Posted By: TexasSI I am clearly the hottest guy in here |
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Originally Posted By: Art and Soul Originally Posted By: TexasSI I am clearly the hottest guy in here Lol |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY You can also smell when someone is on a cycle as well. Pretty easily I might add. do tell... |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Or they're just popping dbols like it's going out of style, lol. There are all kinds of good steroids that don't bloat you up (Deca, Winstrol, etc) that will also help you get pretty cut. I think a lot of guys don't take the time to do things properly. deca is known for making you hold water and is not a typical cutting drug... dbol definitely holds water and you'll gain weight hella fast... but fucking with orals is risky, moreso than pinning... |
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Originally Posted By: Impulsive It's usually obvious if they are juicing. There is a certain thickness where someone doesn't really get to naturally. It is very common to see a bloated looking gut too. They can have a 6-pack, but their stomachs stick out quite a bit. Many people are just used to years of Muscle and Fitness with a jacked guy on the cover claiming to be all natural when he was anything but, so they think people can look like that with just hard work/diet. I think juicing is just becoming incredibly common now too. My wife works with a guy who has a scrawny SO. He just deciding one day he was going to juice and workout lol Ares. Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Or they're just popping dbols like it's going out of style, lol. There are all kinds of good steroids that don't bloat you up (Deca, Winstrol, etc) that will also help you get pretty cut. I think a lot of guys don't take the time to do things properly. This is one of the reason it never insterested me. I have no clue what to do. Plus, like most illegal things, I'd have to find a dealer for it and trust the product was safe. bloated gut is likely from GH and especially insulin use... you're going hard core if you're pinning slin on the daily though... |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Originally Posted By: Flipped lol better sex drive while losing your hardon and shrinking your nuts. That sounds like torture. How are you losing your hardon with all that extra blood volume (up to 20% if I'm not mistaken?) Magic? You fuck like a porn star when on the sauce, ask the guys that have done it But while others are using them to get lean too, their body also shuts down "nonessential functions". And there's this. Quote: Much has been mentioned about the effects steroids have on the body. When taken in high amounts, steroids cause the testosterone level to fluctuate and this can lead to a number of sexual dysfunctions including erectile dysfunction. This is so because the body produces hormones similar to steroids in the reproductive organ of a man. When steroids are used it tends to cause the body to stop producing the hormones and this will lead, in some men, to a temporary if not full loss of the ability to have and keep an erection. If you run high test, you're going to conversely run high estrogen as it aromitizes... You'll need to run a good AI to combat the high estrogen... Some compounds will shut your dick down, but not for every user... Test alone surely isn't going to shut your dick down, unless you are half a pussy and your body hates test and just converts it to estrogen and you grow some titties... |
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Originally Posted By: Joeyballs Ob1, you're using steroids as a blanket term for everything. Each steroid produces different positive and negative side effects. Some steroids make you very sexually active such as testosterone, some decrease your sex drive such as deca. Each one is completely different than the other To say steroids do this, or steroids do that makes absolutely no sense at all deca is hit or miss with the user... i've had no ill effects from it, but I have heard others who have... tren is hit or miss with the libido as well... either fuck like a porn star, or the dick stops working... lol... probably not a good thing when your libido is high, you're on tren so you're more irritable to begin with and no pussy on top of that...? |
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Originally Posted By: Impulsive Seriously though, could you outline a typical "cycle". I'm curious as to how much, how often, how long, how many things. 500mg test per week split into two shots... 10mg Aromasin e4d or AS NEEDED... That's a typical starter cycle and you will see results quickly... |
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Originally Posted By: WNDYCTYone I didn't think any oral steroid would fall into a "safe(est)" category, hmm. That's interesting. they don't... they should only be incorporated in by experienced users and liver support should be taken surely... 4 weeks max on orals... a lot of people jumpstart a cycle with dbol so gains come quick until the oils start to build up in the system... oh and if you're scared to pin yourself don't even bother... |
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Originally Posted By: Flipped Originally Posted By: Joeyballs Interesting. Is this something you can use for intermittent cycles or are the gains lost when you go off? if you're going to do it right you don't go off... you blast and cruise... never going off test... |
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Originally Posted By: Joeyballs Its generally not advised to take liver support supplements when on a cycle. taking things like milk thistle when taking orals is not a bad thing... You can wait tip after you come off the orals but that's 4 weeks of damage you're doing to your liver... oh and if you DRINK, please don't be a moron and use orals... |
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Originally Posted By: Euphoric Originally Posted By: CrazeD_Z06 He looks natural to me. clearly you have NO clue. lol no shit... yeah that's totally natural... lolololol |
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Originally Posted By: TexasSI Going back a bit... So should I not waste my whole life trying to achieve traps/shoulders like that huge mf on page 9. Is it really a matter of juicing. I pound and work on shoulders HARD and have yet to get them any where close to my ears. Sad if no...but I definitely recognize the cheaters at the gym now lol. If no juice, genetics. I need them trap insertions are genetic... and if they don't insert high on your neck you ain't gonna get that look bro... |
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Yeah... I'm old enough that trying to make any more gains naturally is futile... I've been plateaued at 295 for so long and was unable to hit 300 for months on end... Just hit a 320 tonight... |
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Ran 8 weeks of test-c 500mg Added deca at week 9 600mg and upped test to 750mg cause running deca you should run higher test... I'm in week 10, went from 212-232 over that period but have been hovering around 231-232 last 4 weeks and an likely recomping on my current intake around 4k cals... |
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Originally Posted By: DieZel Ran 8 weeks of test-c 500mg Added deca at week 9 600mg and upped test to 750mg cause running deca you should run higher test... I'm in week 10, went from 212-232 over that period but have been hovering around 231-232 last 4 weeks and an likely recomping on my current intake around 4k cals... Good stuff |
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Holy fuck Diezel, you must be a monster now! Pics. |
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Originally Posted By: DieZel Ran 8 weeks of test-c 500mg Added deca at week 9 600mg and upped test to 750mg cause running deca you should run higher test... I'm in week 10, went from 212-232 over that period but have been hovering around 231-232 last 4 weeks and an likely recomping on my current intake around 4k cals... so, for someone who knows nothing about juicing, do you maintain the gains that you get if you get off of the sauce? that's a pretty serious change to your body composition in a short time. is it sustainable without the chemicals? |
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Originally Posted By: Silock Short answer: Not really. A little bit, but the majority goes away with the juice. Wouldn't it be more dependent on the type of weight gained and the speed it was gained? That is, if someone blows up on anadrol, high test, deca, and who knows what else, he would be more likely to lose a good bit of the weight than the guy that runs lower test, masteron, and anavar? |
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Originally Posted By: DieZel Ran 8 weeks of test-c 500mg Added deca at week 9 600mg and upped test to 750mg cause running deca you should run higher test... I'm in week 10, went from 212-232 over that period but have been hovering around 231-232 last 4 weeks and an likely recomping on my current intake around 4k cals... in for update pics of treebeard diezel |
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Yes, wayy too many. Do it correctly (while on, then post cycle) and the losses will be minimal. I've seen guys go off, lose the bloat, flatten out a little and look even more jacked when they were on. They did it correctly. Then you have the kids who swell up on orals, eat like shit, then slack off a ton post cycle because they can't move the weight they once did. This is the recipe for failure and major losses. It was all too common while I was in college. |
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Yes, it's true there are lots of variables. Perhaps "most" was the wrong way to word it. A better way would be that if you have already reached your potential as a natural, gains made beyond your natural limits will be increasingly difficult to maintain off-cycle. I fully admit to not being a steroid expert. From the research I've done and guys I've talked to about it, you're going to keep more of the muscle if you train and eat smartly if you haven't yet reached your potential. Older guys that have been training for decades that decide to do a cycle have a much more difficult time keeping it when they're off, simply because they don't have the ability to train off cycle like they do on cycle and can't keep it. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. |
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It's still an illegal drug though. |
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Originally Posted By: BellRacer Originally Posted By: DieZel Ran 8 weeks of test-c 500mg Added deca at week 9 600mg and upped test to 750mg cause running deca you should run higher test... I'm in week 10, went from 212-232 over that period but have been hovering around 231-232 last 4 weeks and an likely recomping on my current intake around 4k cals... so, for someone who knows nothing about juicing, do you maintain the gains that you get if you get off of the sauce? that's a pretty serious change to your body composition in a short time. Ois it sustainable without the chemicals? You will lose some weight after a blast but if you "do it right" you're going to cruise on a low test dude and you can continue to make gains even while not "on cycle"... The guys you see that blow the fuck up and then shrink back down likely did it with orals, never controlled their bloat and immediately lose 20 pounds after stopping and then not doing a PCT... I don't plan to need any post cycle therapy cause I'll still be taking a small dose of test every week before I blast off again... |
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Aren't you worried about the long-term effects of never really coming off of the drugs? That's the kind of stuff that scares me enough to stay away. I'd feel nervous even if it were monitored by a doctor, though. |
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Originally Posted By: Silock Aren't you worried about the long-term effects of never really coming off of the drugs? That's the kind of stuff that scares me enough to stay away. I'd feel nervous even if it were monitored by a doctor, though. Not an expert on blast and cruise, but I did stay at a holiday inn express, studied chemistry, and just got prescribed TRT and have done a ton of research on it. Yes, my total T was low at 286 and 255 ng/dL on 2 different tests. If he cruises at 200 mg/week or less, that would put him at the upper high end of the "normal" range of 348-1197 ng/dL total T. Assuming he keeps E2 in check with an AI (if necessary) and monitors his hematocrit/hemoglobin, there really isn't much risk with TRT levels of test. If hematocrit gets too high then TRT patients can donate blood. As a "recreational" user he would have to either lie about that, pay for therapeutic phlebotomy, or drain it himself. He may need 250-500 IU of hCG 2x a week to prevent testicular atrophy, if that is an issue to him. The blasting part I don't really know how that will affect overall health, I would assume it depends on which compounds are used (e.g. 17-methylated steroids are hepatotoxic and will damage the liver if used in high dosages and/or for long periods). Starting next week I will be on 160mg 1x a week, .5mg adex 2x a week, and 500IU hCG 2x a week. I'm under supervision of a licensed physician and will be doing routine bloodwork to monitor everything. |
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Quote: Starting next week I will be on 160mg 1x a week, .5mg adex 2x a week, and 500IU hCG 2x a week. |
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Originally Posted By: Art and Soul Quote: Starting next week I will be on 160mg 1x a week, .5mg adex 2x a week, and 500IU hCG 2x a week. The testosterone is because I have total and free testosterone values below the normal range. Average for my age is 650-ish, I am mid to high 200's for total T. I have depression, low libido, and other issues that go along with low testosterone. I have tried Clomid and it boosted my T while on but it fell back after cessation. hCG monotherapy failed as well. The adex is to keep estrogen down and the hCG is to prevent testicular atrophy. |
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The issue I have with bridging is that T levels are highly interindividualized. What is low for person A may be normal for person B, and vice versa. I know a lot of AS guys are very careful, and I know Diezel will be. It still just seems freaky scary to me |
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Arnold is 65, and jacked... Watch Sabotage and ask him if he's worried about long term effects. lol |
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Sly is jacked. Arnold is recovering but still a sloppy version of his old self. |
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Originally Posted By: Silock Aren't you worried about the long-term effects of never really coming off of the drugs? That's the kind of stuff that scares me enough to stay away. I'd feel nervous even if it were monitored by a doctor, though. As stated a TRT dose presents next to no health concerns aside from the possible need to donate blood from time to time... I did ALOT of research on this shit for a long time and shied away so many times but finally said fuck it and gave it a go... I'll likely run 250mg a week for 8 weeks after I finish this blast and then add another compound I to the mix and see how I react to it... I'd say not to add multiple compounds together cause you won't know which one your body dies not like... I didn't need any AI when I was on 500mg a week... I used it once out of sheer anxiety that I was gonna get gyno, but your mind will fuck with you... Since I've upped my dose I'm taking the AI just to control my water... Seems to be working as my weight stabilized and have actually started leaving out just a smidge while eating at maintenance cals... |
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Started working out again this weekend. It was crazy depressing. I've worked out here and there (couple times a month - every few months) but I haven't been dedicated for over two years now. It felt good to be back. I just need to stick with it, gain momentum, and become addicted again. Then... 2012... Now... |
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You did that LeBron diet. |
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Juicing in the first pic? (no offense intended) |
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Yeah. Tren, Test, EQ. |
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The results are super impressive, but if that (bulk) were that my goal, the pussy in me would be to afraid of side effects. With my luck, something would go hideously wrong. Cyclists were/are about the discreet testosterone patch on the ol' scrotum to help post-race recovery. |
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my favorite excuse was I was too pussy to make gains. |
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What kind of des age were you on in 2012...? I take it you're just a small dude in general...? |
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Aren't you guys afraid of getting busted? It seems to me that would be worse than some of the potential side effects. Maybe they only go after the dealers and not the users but it seems really risky. |
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Originally Posted By: DieZel What kind of des age were you on in 2012...? I take it you're just a small dude in general...? Yeah I'm a small guy naturally. 5'8" 150 normally - 175 when lifting (top pic) I was on 250 Test E, 400 Tren E, 400 EQ weekly. |
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You ever use tren-ace vs e...? |
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Yeah I have in the past and I liked it. I got tired of being a pin cushion though and switched back to E. I can't hit many injection sites by myself. With no help I was left with rotating quads and delts. E gave my sites a little more rest than ace |
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Yeah pinning eod can get to be a pita I'm sure... Just seems most people much prefer ace over e in general... I've yet to try it but likely will come March after my cruise is finished... |
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The juice is working for me, lol. (Cross post from OT) |
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#beastmode |
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In all seriousness, if you actually learned how to bench (just making your body into a more stable platform with your feet and back), you could instantly add probably 30-40 pounds to what you just did. |
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Originally Posted By: Silock |
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4 srs Look at how much energy you're wasting with the weight waving all around like that. |
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Yeah, plus I think the bench was in the wrong spot because the bar was banging on the rest stop things too. The whole thing felt pretty ugly, but it was just a spur of the moment thing. |
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Would like to start a short cycle to stack on what I feel is lacking. Just worried I'll continue once I see the gains. Some mean shouldes will make me a god. Reluctant to ask for them, would rather be offered. |
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Once you go on, you should stay on, but that's just my opinion... |
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your cycle cost less than the protein I eat per month *cries* |
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Originally Posted By: 137 your cycle cost less than the protein I eat per month *cries* I don't know how much steroids cost but I wouldn't doubt they are cheaper than supplements. Uggh. The only thing I've done is clomid but its pretty harmless (and not nearly as effective). lol |
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Originally Posted By: 137 your cycle cost less than the donuts I eat per month *cries* |
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Originally Posted By: It's Art Originally Posted By: Impulsive I get this whole thing, I do but I don't think this is a paper tiger here. Guy is 6'3" and is clearly in shape. He thinks he's a brick wall, but can we stop pretending the rest of these lifting accomplishments are untouchable? So call him out, that's fair, but don't assume because a video isn't posted immediately, he's weak. I've dled 500 and squatted 405. Benched 330 and chin upswith 45s strapped to my waist. I do 90-95% of that today, then run 8 miles with sprints. Keep reality in check. But see, you're a large male too. You can bench 3 plates, dead 500 pounds and run 10 miles and not have to have a blog, youtube channel, avatar, etc all about it. And, no homo, you look the part too. And, much like me, before you leaned out you were just large but still hefty. It's like wolfsburg too. He's always been able to out bench me. I think he repped my max like 3-4 times. (365) Just thought this was worth re-upping |
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Well that may have been true at one time... |
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I am new to fitness. I would like to know using steroids is safe or not? |