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#7910859 - 10/13/14 12:03 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: ]
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Damn son, you were puffy. How much did you weigh in that first pic?
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#7910891 - 10/13/14 12:16 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: Flipped
 Originally Posted By: Silock
I'm so glad I'm not strong enough, don't run enough and don't swim enough to get into any of these contests.


Isn't that the point? Arts entire position is that he's superior simply because he's theoretically bigger and stronger or even leaner. He demands respect off of this alone.
I don't demand anything.

there is no "theoretical" anything. I'm nearly 6'4" and I'm a lean jacked 220 pounds. I'm literally the size of an NFL linebacker. Deal with it son.

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#7910895 - 10/13/14 12:17 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: 98V-TeC]
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 Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC
Damn son, you were puffy. How much did you weigh in that first pic?
lol yeah I was a little hefty my first year of college


I think I was 242 pounds in that picture. There are more, I used to have all the pictures saved but I'm having trouble finding them all now.

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#7910900 - 10/13/14 12:20 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: It's Art]
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Yet OB1 the geneticist has said many times that my "genes" keep me lean and "my genetic size" etc


Of course, he only just started fitness so he was unaware of the pictures of me back in the day at a hefty 240-250 pounds.


The old picture of me with the backwards hat was my leanest @ a crazy ripped 207

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#7910941 - 10/13/14 12:44 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Silock]
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 Originally Posted By: Silock
I'm so glad I'm not strong enough, don't run enough and don't swim enough to get into any of these contests.


I'm not trying to be the best at exercising!!!
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#7911013 - 10/13/14 01:14 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: It's Art]
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 Originally Posted By: Art and Soul
 Originally Posted By: Flipped
 Originally Posted By: Silock
I'm so glad I'm not strong enough, don't run enough and don't swim enough to get into any of these contests.


Isn't that the point? Arts entire position is that he's superior simply because he's theoretically bigger and stronger or even leaner. He demands respect off of this alone.
I don't demand anything.

there is no "theoretical" anything. I'm nearly 6'4" and I'm a lean jacked 220 pounds. I'm literally the size of an NFL linebacker. Deal with it son.
All that matters is lifting % VS BW...not your genetic size.

if you're 6-4, 220 and only benching 220 then you're no better than a 5-5, 130 guy benching 130.

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#7911057 - 10/13/14 01:31 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: ]
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If that makes you feel better
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#7911060 - 10/13/14 01:33 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: It's Art]
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Its true. That is why there are weight classes in all respective sports to strength and size. Including lifting.

Again...2 different size people reaching their BW on bench have accomplished the same thing...regardless of their respective bench numbers.

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#7911079 - 10/13/14 01:39 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: ]
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If that makes you feel better about your diminutive stature
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#7911096 - 10/13/14 01:47 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: It's Art]
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It does. Because its true. All your mouth and average results relative to your size doesn't change a thing.
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#7911125 - 10/13/14 01:59 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: ]
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blah blah blah


I'm much bigger and stronger than you. In fact, I'm sure a lot of people are. Learn to cope.

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#7911127 - 10/13/14 02:00 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: ]
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I just wanted to pull a clubsi and let you guys know I'm done with this thread, I'll be in my little thread down there lifting weights. continue on with the dick measuring.
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#7911130 - 10/13/14 02:00 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: It's Art]
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 Originally Posted By: Art and Soul
If that makes you feel better about your diminutive stature


You've unlocked the key to the universe

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#7911139 - 10/13/14 02:04 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: BehindBarsVR6]
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 Originally Posted By: Art and Soul
blah blah blah


I'm much bigger and stronger than you. In fact, I'm sure a lot of people are. Learn to cope.
You're making the assumption that I care that your bench and squat numbers are higher. I don't.

I care about %'s and where I fall within them. Based on that I suspect you're no more successful than me. By your logic I should talk shit to every woman and child out there...because I'm stronger than all of them.
 Originally Posted By: ManEaterVR6
 Originally Posted By: Art and Soul
If that makes you feel better about your diminutive stature


You've unlocked the key to the universe
You shouldn't talk...the only strength standards you're competitive on are in the womens tables...regardless of weight and size.

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#7911145 - 10/13/14 02:06 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: 137]
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Report back when you get a result
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#7911149 - 10/13/14 02:08 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: It's Art]
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You care about %s because you're basically a dwarf and you need to find some sliding scale that can give you a false sense of measuring up
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#7911157 - 10/13/14 02:13 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: It's Art]
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I care because anyone not stupid understands weight class.
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#7911969 - 10/13/14 10:06 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: ]
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Sure, I understand weight class but, this isn't a handicapped drag race or golf tourney. There's a bar with weight on it, I move more of it than you. If I punched you in the chest you would most likely die.
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#7911988 - 10/13/14 10:33 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Impulsive]
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 Originally Posted By: Impulsive
I get this whole thing, I do but I don't think this is a paper tiger here.

Guy is 6'3" and is clearly in shape. He thinks he's a brick wall, but can we stop pretending the rest of these lifting accomplishments are untouchable?

So call him out, that's fair, but don't assume because a video isn't posted immediately, he's weak. I've dled 500 and squatted 405. Benched 330 and chin upswith 45s strapped to my waist. I do 90-95% of that today, then run 8 miles with sprints.

Keep reality in check.
Yes.


But see, you're a large male too. You can bench 3 plates, dead 500 pounds and run 10 miles and not have to have a blog, youtube channel, avatar, etc all about it. And, no homo, you look the part too. And, much like me, before you leaned out you were just large but still hefty.


It's like wolfsburg too. He's always been able to out bench me. I think he repped my max like 3-4 times. (365)

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#7912165 - 10/14/14 07:48 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: It's Art]
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 Originally Posted By: Art and Soul
Sure, I understand weight class but, this isn't a handicapped drag race or golf tourney. There's a bar with weight on it, I move more of it than you. If I punched you in the chest you would most likely die.
You're talking two different things.

All weight lifting is about is personal achievement. That is where weight class comes in. Comparing head to head is for nothing. It's not is if people ever really do anything with all the weight they push, so its all for personal goals.

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#7912231 - 10/14/14 08:36 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: ]
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False.
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#7920697 - 10/19/14 11:26 AM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: It's Art]
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I am clearly the hottest guy in here
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#7921049 - 10/19/14 03:10 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: TexasSI]
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I am clearly the hottest guy in here

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#7921099 - 10/19/14 04:02 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: It's Art]
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I am clearly the hottest guy in here


Lol

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#7921112 - 10/19/14 04:20 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: TexasSI]
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#7922410 - 10/20/14 01:51 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: LNXGUY]
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 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
You can also smell when someone is on a cycle as well. Pretty easily I might add.


do tell...

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#7922418 - 10/20/14 01:54 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: LNXGUY]
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 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
Or they're just popping dbols like it's going out of style, lol. There are all kinds of good steroids that don't bloat you up (Deca, Winstrol, etc) that will also help you get pretty cut. I think a lot of guys don't take the time to do things properly.


deca is known for making you hold water and is not a typical cutting drug... dbol definitely holds water and you'll gain weight hella fast... but fucking with orals is risky, moreso than pinning...

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#7922423 - 10/20/14 01:56 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Impulsive]
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 Originally Posted By: Impulsive
It's usually obvious if they are juicing. There is a certain thickness where someone doesn't really get to naturally. It is very common to see a bloated looking gut too. They can have a 6-pack, but their stomachs stick out quite a bit.

Many people are just used to years of Muscle and Fitness with a jacked guy on the cover claiming to be all natural when he was anything but, so they think people can look like that with just hard work/diet.

I think juicing is just becoming incredibly common now too. My wife works with a guy who has a scrawny SO. He just deciding one day he was going to juice and workout lol Ares.

 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
Or they're just popping dbols like it's going out of style, lol. There are all kinds of good steroids that don't bloat you up (Deca, Winstrol, etc) that will also help you get pretty cut. I think a lot of guys don't take the time to do things properly.


This is one of the reason it never insterested me. I have no clue what to do. Plus, like most illegal things, I'd have to find a dealer for it and trust the product was safe.


bloated gut is likely from GH and especially insulin use... you're going hard core if you're pinning slin on the daily though...

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#7922437 - 10/20/14 02:00 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: Flipped
 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
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lol better sex drive while losing your hardon and shrinking your nuts. That sounds like torture.


How are you losing your hardon with all that extra blood volume (up to 20% if I'm not mistaken?) Magic? You fuck like a porn star when on the sauce, ask the guys that have done it
Maybe for some.

But while others are using them to get lean too, their body also shuts down "nonessential functions".


And there's this.
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Much has been mentioned about the effects steroids have on the body. When taken in high amounts, steroids cause the testosterone level to fluctuate and this can lead to a number of sexual dysfunctions including erectile dysfunction. This is so because the body produces hormones similar to steroids in the reproductive organ of a man.

When steroids are used it tends to cause the body to stop producing the hormones and this will lead, in some men, to a temporary if not full loss of the ability to have and keep an erection.


If you run high test, you're going to conversely run high estrogen as it aromitizes... You'll need to run a good AI to combat the high estrogen...

Some compounds will shut your dick down, but not for every user... Test alone surely isn't going to shut your dick down, unless you are half a pussy and your body hates test and just converts it to estrogen and you grow some titties...

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#7922445 - 10/20/14 02:04 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Joeyballs]
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 Originally Posted By: Joeyballs
Ob1, you're using steroids as a blanket term for everything. Each steroid produces different positive and negative side effects. Some steroids make you very sexually active such as testosterone, some decrease your sex drive such as deca. Each one is completely different than the other

To say steroids do this, or steroids do that makes absolutely no sense at all


deca is hit or miss with the user... i've had no ill effects from it, but I have heard others who have...

tren is hit or miss with the libido as well... either fuck like a porn star, or the dick stops working... lol... probably not a good thing when your libido is high, you're on tren so you're more irritable to begin with and no pussy on top of that...?

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#7922453 - 10/20/14 02:06 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Impulsive]
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 Originally Posted By: Impulsive
Seriously though, could you outline a typical "cycle". I'm curious as to how much, how often, how long, how many things.



500mg test per week split into two shots...
10mg Aromasin e4d or AS NEEDED...

That's a typical starter cycle and you will see results quickly...

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#7922459 - 10/20/14 02:09 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: WNDYCTYone]
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 Originally Posted By: WNDYCTYone
I didn't think any oral steroid would fall into a "safe(est)" category, hmm. That's interesting.


they don't... they should only be incorporated in by experienced users and liver support should be taken surely... 4 weeks max on orals... a lot of people jumpstart a cycle with dbol so gains come quick until the oils start to build up in the system...

oh and if you're scared to pin yourself don't even bother...

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#7922463 - 10/20/14 02:10 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: Flipped
 Originally Posted By: Joeyballs
 Originally Posted By: President Dope!

links for both pls.




http://roidspot.net/SCIROXX/Turinadex


Interesting. Is this something you can use for intermittent cycles or are the gains lost when you go off?


if you're going to do it right you don't go off... you blast and cruise... never going off test...

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#7922465 - 10/20/14 02:13 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Joeyballs]
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 Originally Posted By: Joeyballs
Its generally not advised to take liver support supplements when on a cycle.


taking things like milk thistle when taking orals is not a bad thing... You can wait tip after you come off the orals but that's 4 weeks of damage you're doing to your liver...

oh and if you DRINK, please don't be a moron and use orals...

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#7922472 - 10/20/14 02:17 PM Re: steroid use at your gym [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
 Originally Posted By: CrazeD_Z06


He looks natural to me.
lol
clearly you have NO clue.


lol no shit... yeah that's totally natural... lolololol

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