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#7132569 - 06/18/13 08:04 AM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: McCavityCat]
98V-TeC Offline
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Sorry to thread jack, but can someone learn me on HCL, maybe provide a link?

Dosage? Site to purchase? I have friends that have used it, but never tried it. I haven't messed with a fat burner in ages.
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#7132574 - 06/18/13 08:06 AM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: 98V-TeC]
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This is the link I've lived and died by when taking it:

http://www.leangains.com/2010/06/intermittent-fasting-and-stubborn-body.html

Sources to buy in pill form are harder to come by now a days. I have two bottles left of Primaforce Y HCL that I bought awhile ago. When I'm out of that, I'll be buying in bulk and making my own pills

lol..drugoverlord
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#7132617 - 06/18/13 08:40 AM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: CStyles45]
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 Originally Posted By: CStyles45
This is the link I've lived and died by when taking it:

http://www.leangains.com/2010/06/intermittent-fasting-and-stubborn-body.html

Sources to buy in pill form are harder to come by now a days. I have two bottles left of Primaforce Y HCL that I bought awhile ago. When I'm out of that, I'll be buying in bulk and making my own pills

lol..drugoverlord


I had found bottles on the shelf at VitaminShoppe here locally.
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#7132911 - 06/18/13 11:22 AM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: McCavityCat]
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I get most of my bulk needs at http://www.smartpowders.com

I'm going with the 15mg dosage at this point but I'm 200lbs... Apparently you can dose this stuff much higher assuming you don't have any underlying conditions...

I'm thinking it was the Green tea that tore me up yesterday cause I've taken the HCL this morning again with no issues... I'm gonna hit the green tea with my post workout meal here shortly... We shall see...
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#7133413 - 06/18/13 04:25 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
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 Originally Posted By: DieZel
I get most of my bulk needs at http://www.smartpowders.com

I'm going with the 15mg dosage at this point but I'm 200lbs... Apparently you can dose this stuff much higher assuming you don't have any underlying conditions...

I'm thinking it was the Green tea that tore me up yesterday cause I've taken the HCL this morning again with no issues... I'm gonna hit the green tea with my post workout meal here shortly... We shall see...


diuretic.
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#7142022 - 06/23/13 03:16 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
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21 weeks out...

Last week average weigh in: 203.69
This week average weigh in: 201.34

Down: 2.35lb on average...

Getting another bump in macros for the week... 20c...

So macros are looking as such right now...

Training:
75f / 440c / 250p

Off day:
75f / 380c / 250p

Refeed
70f / 540c / 175p
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#7143424 - 06/24/13 03:21 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
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Comparison shots of 215 - 200
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#7143427 - 06/24/13 03:22 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
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#7143431 - 06/24/13 03:22 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
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#7143436 - 06/24/13 03:26 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
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Hammies and lower back really starting to pop. How much lower you going?
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#7143438 - 06/24/13 03:27 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: mrnismo]
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hoping to be lean enough at 188, but i don't have a hard number to hit...

it's a wait and see where I'm at game...
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#7143460 - 06/24/13 03:39 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
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haha really it just looks like you have a tan. but definitely some size was put on in your shoulders, quads, and triceps. lots of separation showing now.
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#7143475 - 06/24/13 03:53 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: 137]
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Well I've been tanning... ;\)

Should start to really get a lot more separation at 193-195... Then it's just gonna get stupid after that...
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#7145025 - 06/25/13 02:54 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
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Today's leg training...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoSFp4w3p9o&feature=share&list=UUqmuxgc4ruXcmwFUaO7fpUw
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#7145066 - 06/25/13 03:08 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
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wall on left white...wall on right..yellow. wut dat contrast do ;\)

lol but seriously there is a noticeable change there.
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#7145073 - 06/25/13 03:09 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: Euphoricuck]
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part of that is having the blind up vs closed...
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#7145102 - 06/25/13 03:21 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
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hey man big improvement in your squat, I got nothing to tear apart here lol. are you ever going to try to build up to that weight without your belt?
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#7145107 - 06/25/13 03:24 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: 137]
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nope...

I have no interest in competing in any powerlifting events, and especially raw ones... lol... for my size i'm pretty weak for the weight classes I'd have to compete in...

I only use it on my heaviest sets, and really only squat, conventional / sumo reads... SLDL's i do without the belt cause it gets in the way... I will also use it on bent over rows as well, but no longer on the DB row as It too gets in my way when doing those...
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#7151542 - 06/28/13 07:14 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
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Some pull day training...

http://youtu.be/ygzv-NdjHDw
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#7151607 - 06/28/13 07:53 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
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BACK IN THE GYMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM with the diezel aka oakman. do whatever the fuUUUCCCCKKK YOU WANNA DOOO
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#7151632 - 06/28/13 08:11 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: Euphoricuck]
DieZel Offline
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Lol... Yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...
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#7151686 - 06/28/13 08:45 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
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stealing your workout, my ass is too lazy to come up with something, going to crush biceps afterwards lol. Might as well
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#7151833 - 06/28/13 10:52 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: 137]
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Music is getting more tolerable.

Wayne, you don't already have a program you're working? I didn't realize you were just going to the gym and doing whatever.
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#7151861 - 06/28/13 11:05 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: Silock]
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I thought Wayne was doing the 531 or a variation thereof...?
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#7151863 - 06/28/13 11:05 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
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 Originally Posted By: DieZel
I thought Wayne was doing the 531 or a variation thereof...?


I thought so, too.
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#7151889 - 06/28/13 11:18 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: Silock]
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 Originally Posted By: Silock
Music is getting more tolerable.

Wayne, you don't already have a program you're working? I didn't realize you were just going to the gym and doing whatever.


It's a weird scheme on 5/3/1 I'm not necessarily doing whatever. I focus on a main lift and do whatever accessory lifts are available to minimize time, maximize pump and can be scaled fast.

For instance.

I rowed 2000 meters, brisk and in a restful state. Did some pendlay rows until I got to a weight where my form broke (no belt/straps)
Now that my back was full of blood. moved on to deads.
5x165, 5x205, 3x245, 3x285, 3x325, 3x365, 1x255, 1x275
And then I just did whatever after that, lat pull downs, supinating curls with fat grips, wide grip curls with fat gripz, and preachers with fat grips and got the fuck out of dodge.

But it schemes like 5/3/1 so there is the 5, the 3, the 1, and the deload. just in the particular scheme. No bullshit warm up sets.
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#7153340 - 06/30/13 07:09 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
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20 weeks out...

Last week average weigh in: 201.34
This week average weigh in: 200.5

Down: on average... .84lbs

Macros and cardio will stay the same this week...
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#7164013 - 07/07/13 07:22 AM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
DieZel Offline
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19 weeks out...

Last week average weigh in: 200.5
This week average weigh in: 199.51

Down: on average... 1.01lbs
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#7164047 - 07/07/13 08:54 AM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
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Seems like you really,got,it dialed in, dude. Good luck!
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#7164102 - 07/07/13 10:25 AM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: BellRacer]
DieZel Offline
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it's progressing every week, so i'll continue on the high macros and low cardio for another week, and see where it goes...
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#7167921 - 07/09/13 02:10 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
DieZel Offline
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Hit 197.8 today... i'm calling an anomoly here, but we shall see tomorrow... my activity level defintiely increased since yesterday, since being back to work...

8 hours at work vs 8 hours of chilling on the couch and watching the tube... might have to increase my macros... ;\)
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#7168098 - 07/09/13 03:13 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
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good job fatty, keep up the good work.
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#7168385 - 07/09/13 06:24 PM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: 137]
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thanks slim...
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#7172320 - 07/11/13 11:33 AM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: DieZel]
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did you go and friend request every mid thirties woman in your rural area on mfp dude? lol I swear you be having mad bitches commenting on .01 weight losses.
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#7172425 - 07/11/13 11:59 AM Re: 30 week contest prep starts tomorrow... [Re: 137]
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 Originally Posted By: 137
did you go and friend request every mid thirties woman in your rural area on mfp dude? lol I swear you be having mad bitches commenting on .01 weight losses.


Lol truth
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