#5799998 - 09/13/11 03:50 PM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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ElectronVTEC2
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It's been ten years, frankly I don't have a photographic memory, I'm just recalling what I can and my memory tells me that shifting at 9400, while it was making slightly more whp, did not net me any better ET or MPH at the strip. I think the highest MPH I hit was 99.xx with that setup. It wasn't a drag car by any means, but that's the only comparative basis I have since dyno's can be manipulated way too easily.
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#5800967 - 09/14/11 04:34 AM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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cliff st-clair
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It's been ten years, frankly I don't have a photographic memory, I'm just recalling what I can and my memory tells me that shifting at 9400, while it was making slightly more whp, did not net me any better ET or MPH at the strip. I think the highest MPH I hit was 99.xx with that setup. It wasn't a drag car by any means, but that's the only comparative basis I have since dyno's can be manipulated way too easily.
You are damn right dynos could be manipulated very easily....this thread is proof.
I would always shift past or at the peak hp number though. What determines how fast you're going to go is how much average horsepower you're putting down the strip. To do that you have to clear peak hp imo.
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#5803082 - 09/15/11 01:18 AM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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Kick to ze liver
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Genius, you quoted the first part of his post, but not the last. Anyway, blah blah blah...this is not a 200whp hatch. k thanx bye.
Genius, that is the entire post.
"In fact most chassis dynos measure flywheel hp and calculate wheel...how come you can do a pull in 3rd gear or 4th gear and basically they measure the same
This is "comparison mode" which is Dyno Dynamics method of equating to Dynojet numbers...it says flywheel on the graphs (just like dynapack) but every car I have had report to me about going on a local Dynojet the numbers have been within 1-2% as far as I have been told"
And here's the direct link to the post since you seem to be having some trouble. http://honda-tech.com/showpost.php?p=45955841&postcount=31
like I said, you quoted someone that has absolutely nothing to do with anything other than a random opinion on the internet and for the record I really don't care if the hatch makes 250whp or 120whp, I'm simply quoting the professional who does this for a living...enough said.
Edited by Kick to ze liver (09/15/11 01:23 AM)
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#5804692 - 09/15/11 06:37 PM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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http://youtu.be/0dyApIVhXVk Full street trim, 2460lbs with my 250 in the drivers seat 80% humidity. 20mph headwind
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#5805078 - 09/15/11 09:36 PM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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cliff st-clair
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http://youtu.be/0dyApIVhXVk Full street trim, 2460lbs with my 250 in the drivers seat 80% humidity. 20mph headwind
LOL I was RIGHT on the money. 14.2@97mph. LOL Proof the old man still knows his Hondas, contrary to popular belief... Thanks for posting that.
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#5805460 - 09/16/11 07:59 AM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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NVMYMPGZ
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Hard to argue with the times. but it is what it is.
I went with a buddy who i know has pulled on cars trapping over 105 but his best run of the day was a 104mph trap.
Im determined to prove it was a slow night so i'll let you know when i better these numbers
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#5806215 - 09/16/11 02:19 PM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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NVMYMPGZ
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ah, that's cute, people still street race.
lol, after spending $40+ for 2 passes at the closest track, im surprise more people don't streetrace
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#5806576 - 09/16/11 05:19 PM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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cliff st-clair
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Don't people know not to compare trap speeds and ETs from different tracks???? That is drag racing 101. You just cant. The hatch is running exactly what it's supposed to run at Englishtown in early fall weather, which is why I was able to guess the time it would run. A friend's stock ITR ran 94mph there back in the day in similar weather. Bottom line is: this hatch does not make significantly more power than a stock dc2 itr, it is just lighter by 300lbs+. This timeslip proves that the 208whp number is utter bullshit and that this is basically a stock b18c5 hatch. lol
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#5806909 - 09/16/11 09:31 PM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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Cliff, you're an old bastard, I demand you leave this site now!
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#5807636 - 09/17/11 01:44 PM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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Kick to ze liver
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Don't people know not to compare trap speeds and ETs from different tracks???? That is drag racing 101. You just cant. The hatch is running exactly what it's supposed to run at Englishtown in early fall weather, which is why I was able to guess the time it would run. A friend's stock ITR ran 94mph there back in the day in similar weather. Bottom line is: this hatch does not make significantly more power than a stock dc2 itr, it is just lighter by 300lbs+. This timeslip proves that the 208whp number is utter bullshit and that this is basically a stock b18c5 hatch. lol You realize this was his first time at the track with the Hatch and he only was able to get 2 runs, correct? Hardly any time to test and tune. I'll tell you what tho, I'll bet this car goes 100mph traps before the season is over without adding anymore power, just going to a better track.
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#5807641 - 09/17/11 01:48 PM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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Kick to ze liver
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ah, that's cute, people still street race. lol, after spending $40+ for 2 passes at the closest track, im surprise more people don't streetrace
Correction, driving an hour and a half to get to your closest track for 2 runs, that place sucks. Island is where it's at!!
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#5807859 - 09/17/11 05:07 PM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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Don't people know not to compare trap speeds and ETs from different tracks???? That is drag racing 101. You just cant. The hatch is running exactly what it's supposed to run at Englishtown in early fall weather, which is why I was able to guess the time it would run. A friend's stock ITR ran 94mph there back in the day in similar weather. Bottom line is: this hatch does not make significantly more power than a stock dc2 itr, it is just lighter by 300lbs+. This timeslip proves that the 208whp number is utter bullshit and that this is basically a stock b18c5 hatch. lol You realize this was his first time at the track with the Hatch and he only was able to get 2 runs, correct? Hardly any time to test and tune. I'll tell you what tho, I'll bet this car goes 100mph traps before the season is over without adding anymore power, just going to a better track.
It might see 100mph when it's less than 38 degrees out and it's dry. other than that nah....
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#5807917 - 09/17/11 06:18 PM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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NVMYMPGZ
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Lol. Planing any trips to the track cliff? Id love to line up next to the z
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#5808475 - 09/18/11 05:22 AM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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Kick to ze liver
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Lol. Planing any trips to the track cliff? Id love to line up next to the z
Same here, but he's "retired"
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#5808476 - 09/18/11 05:24 AM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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Kick to ze liver
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Don't people know not to compare trap speeds and ETs from different tracks???? That is drag racing 101. You just cant. The hatch is running exactly what it's supposed to run at Englishtown in early fall weather, which is why I was able to guess the time it would run. A friend's stock ITR ran 94mph there back in the day in similar weather. Bottom line is: this hatch does not make significantly more power than a stock dc2 itr, it is just lighter by 300lbs+. This timeslip proves that the 208whp number is utter bullshit and that this is basically a stock b18c5 hatch. lol You realize this was his first time at the track with the Hatch and he only was able to get 2 runs, correct? Hardly any time to test and tune. I'll tell you what tho, I'll bet this car goes 100mph traps before the season is over without adding anymore power, just going to a better track. It might see 100mph when it's less than 38 degrees out and it's dry. other than that nah....
Heh yeah......I'm sure you'll have the excuses ready.
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#5809218 - 09/18/11 07:31 PM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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cliff st-clair
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Lol. Planing any trips to the track cliff? Id love to line up next to the z Same here, but he's "retired"
I really dont' know why anyone would want to race my car so much.
First of all it is stock and right now slower than stock due to the rims I have. I've got nothing to prove, it's going to run low 14s and trap around 97-100. I used to trap 120mph+ in my turbo Civic so to me racing a low 14 sec car seems meh. Secondly I can only get to the track on a weekend. I actually have a regular 9-5 job so it's tough to get to NJ during the weekdays. But heh if you guys hit the strip on a weekend I may change my mind just to hang out and talk shit. hehe...
I also find it funny that this kick to ze liver character is always posting races about other cars but never or rarely posts about his car. Very strange.
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#5809327 - 09/18/11 08:20 PM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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Kick to ze liver
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Lol. Planing any trips to the track cliff? Id love to line up next to the z Same here, but he's "retired" I really dont' know why anyone would want to race my car so much. First of all it is stock and right now slower than stock due to the rims I have. I've got nothing to prove, it's going to run low 14s and trap around 97-100. I used to trap 120mph+ in my turbo Civic so to me racing a low 14 sec car seems meh. Secondly I can only get to the track on a weekend. I actually have a regular 9-5 job so it's tough to get to NJ during the weekdays. But heh if you guys hit the strip on a weekend I may change my mind just to hang out and talk shit. hehe... I also find it funny that this kick to ze liver character is always posting races about other cars but never or rarely posts about his car. Very strange.
lol really? maybe your alzheimer's is kicking in.....do a little search on here and you'll find plenty of vids of my 05 that would spank your little 350Z, dig or any mph roll...lol what a weak attempt at an insult trying to act like I don't own a car, total failure once again clifford, just like you couldn't understand how to quote from Honda-Tech correctly, lol
yeah.....you must be old, lol
and to answer your question why anyone would wanna run your slow Z, it's because I think you're a big time shit talker and I'd love to shut your mouth in my slow 4 cylinder FWD econobox
Edited by Kick to ze liver (09/18/11 08:26 PM)
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#5809595 - 09/18/11 10:50 PM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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#5809706 - 09/19/11 12:19 AM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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Cliff cant drive at all lolz. God this thread reminds me of the old SVA from 7-8 years ago. Arguing about 15 second cars.
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#5809730 - 09/19/11 01:09 AM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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cliff st-clair
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do you even know the history of cliffs cars? stfu
He was probably wearing diapers when I was running my Civic...
Anyway, "kick me to the liver" guy, if beating me in a drag race is going to make you feel that much better you are really a sad case. I have no more comment on this matter.
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#5810199 - 09/19/11 10:52 AM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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I'm hoping to hit 104 MPH with my new setup.
In the 1/8th mile.
Seriously though, most of the cars in the vids sound good, and the races seem to be pretty tight, but making it some sort of life's mission to beat a 14 second car with another 14 second car is really pretty sad. With that said, even if you do "shut his mouth" by beating his Z with your RSX, no one outside of you would probably give a shit, and I think 95% of us here would rather drive the Z home than an RSX. It's like the time I put a bus or two on the douche in a Z06 at the track - he still drove home in a C5Z, and I drove home in my little turbo tin can.
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#5810241 - 09/19/11 11:03 AM
Re: 04 RSX-S vs. EG Hatch w/ B18C5
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all of this NYC fun reminds me of the days when i lived there.
I wish i could have some fun runs with you guys in my sentra or evo. I still have some good friends over there running VVL sentra's and 200sx's.
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