#2426760 - 03/11/08 10:34 PM
Re: Discuss: ECOTEC
[Re: Euphoricuck]
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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I am just wondering how long it will take Nissan/Honda to realize they need a turbo powered car to compete.
but do they really? People will still buy the cars....and the new engines respond quite well to bolt ons and a reflash. Stock for stock and mod for mod a factory F/I car will always perform better. stock for stock? not so much, totally depends. only in recent years have the FI cars really had a big advantage over the n/a counterparts stock for stock... mod for mod turbo cars have always had an advantage , which is definately understandable but in recent years (k series) that advantage is more even or even behind lol gti for those first bunch of bolt ons.
K series while a great N/A motor will not be able to compete with the new F/I'd factory compact cars. You will need cams/hondata(reflash or kpro), full exhaust, intake, vavle springs, and other things to compete with a F/I'd car with very basic upgrades.
Even with just ecu/boltons you have just reached what those turbo cars do stock.
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#2426788 - 03/11/08 10:41 PM
Re: Discuss: ECOTEC
[Re: NOT spotch...]
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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When they were all NA you had the GSR, the 2.5RS, celica GT-S, GTi VR6, etc. Yeah they were all NA and relatively slow but there were revvy ones and torquey ones, etc. I just appreciate having a few different options. Same reason I wouldn't want all the cars in the segment to be coupes or hatchbacks or whatever, even though I'm big on hatchbacks lately.
I am sure there still will be high-revving turbo cars, and turbo cars that only rev to 6500.
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#2426805 - 03/11/08 10:45 PM
Re: Discuss: ECOTEC
[Re: Euphoricuck]
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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You are taking the best kseries reflash/bolt on times. The SRT turbo is good till 108ishmph, and than its only a turbo upgrade to get more. Whereas a kseries motor will need a F/I setup or major major N/A work to get to that.
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#2426818 - 03/11/08 10:48 PM
Re: Discuss: ECOTEC
[Re: Euphoricuck]
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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so a turbo upgrade isnt major? but some cams are?
Not on a turbo car, its equvilant to cams on a N/A car. No cams for the Kseries are going to give you a 8mph gain.
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#2426822 - 03/11/08 10:49 PM
Re: Discuss: ECOTEC
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NOT spotch...
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When they were all NA you had the GSR, the 2.5RS, celica GT-S, GTi VR6, etc. Yeah they were all NA and relatively slow but there were revvy ones and torquey ones, etc. I just appreciate having a few different options. Same reason I wouldn't want all the cars in the segment to be coupes or hatchbacks or whatever, even though I'm big on hatchbacks lately. I am sure there still will be high-revving turbo cars, and turbo cars that only rev to 6500.
Really? Because I don't see any lol. What car company is going to build a high revving turbo car, anyway? What's the point? The whole point of revving high is to make up for low displacement, and wouldn't it be harder/more expensive to design a turbo that works well at 7500+ that doesn't lag? I mean yeah it's possible but we're talking about the bargain basement cars here, that's not going to be all that cheap to throw together I would think. Even the turbo cars that are on the market now run out of steam at higher rpms... The wrx/gti/ms3/etc all seem to have great midrange and meh up top.
It's america for a reason, give us the freedom to choose! lol
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#2426825 - 03/11/08 10:50 PM
Re: Discuss: ECOTEC
[Re: NOT spotch...]
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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STI in japans rev to 8k, Evo's here still rev to 7k or so. The Meh up top you say is from a small turbo
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#2426850 - 03/11/08 10:58 PM
Re: Discuss: ECOTEC
[Re: NOT spotch...]
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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Dont make me send some shavers to you now saspotch!
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#2426874 - 03/11/08 11:03 PM
Re: Discuss: ECOTEC
[Re: NOT spotch...]
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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Dont make me send some shavers to you now saspotch! lol, they'd better have a lot of time on their hands!
Oh the first group will have some weed eaters, than a lawnmower, than trimmers to speed things up.
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#2426894 - 03/11/08 11:10 PM
Re: Discuss: ECOTEC
[Re: NOT spotch...]
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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Nope.
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#2426922 - 03/11/08 11:19 PM
Re: Discuss: ECOTEC
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You are taking the best kseries reflash/bolt on times. The SRT turbo is good till 108ishmph, and than its only a turbo upgrade to get more. Whereas a kseries motor will need a F/I setup or major major N/A work to get to that.
Years ago when I cared about SRT-4's, people were making 320whp with a 3" exhaust, CAI, Ebay intercooler and a $40 map clamp. I don't know much about MS3's or GTi's, but it seems like pretty big numbers can be had with not too many mods.
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#8912080 - 01/13/17 09:04 PM
Re: Discuss: ECOTEC
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#8978800 - 03/20/17 09:56 PM
Re: Discuss: ECOTEC
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