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#997851 - 02/03/07 01:24 PM Catalytic converter and turbo?
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Guys, I am building a turbo B16 soon with GT3076R. The aim is 400 flywheel HP. I would like though to fit a catalytic converter in my car. Anything to propose for this power levels? The exhaust will be 3". Thanks
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#997951 - 02/03/07 02:02 PM Re: Catalytic converter and turbo? [Re: CivicVTi]
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So your going to add a 3" cat or your gonna stick with the factory 2.25"?
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#999068 - 02/03/07 08:29 PM Re: Catalytic converter and turbo? [Re: CivicVTi]
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Originally Posted By: CivicVTi
Guys, I am building a turbo B16 soon with GT3076R. The aim is 400 flywheel HP. I would like though to fit a catalytic converter in my car. Anything to propose for this power levels? The exhaust will be 3". Thanks


Not a problem. It will rob some of your power..but for everyday driving and emissions...it will be more than fine.

I would suggest a cutout to get the maximum power for @ the track and dyno day...

Then you will have the best of both...

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#1002946 - 02/04/07 11:58 PM Re: Catalytic converter and turbo? [Re: SiAdam]
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Just have a flanged section put in before the cat so you can drop it when you go to the track.
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#1003513 - 02/05/07 06:09 AM Re: Catalytic converter and turbo? [Re: I Live In Canada]
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Actually I am looking for a 3" inlet/outlet cat to fit in my car. The car will be mainly street driven with rare visits to the track so I want a good cat permanently on without robbing too much power while being able to pass emissions (the car will be perfectly tuned with Hondata S300 and normal closed loop O2 sensor control). Thanks for your replies guys.
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#1005521 - 02/05/07 05:00 PM Re: Catalytic converter and turbo? [Re: CivicVTi]
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Any of the major manufacturers will do. Magnaflow, catco etc all make high flow cats in 3". Even a high flow cat will still rob some power though.
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#1005768 - 02/05/07 05:55 PM Re: Catalytic converter and turbo? [Re: I Live In Canada]
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I know it will rob power. I hope not more than 10whp though.
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#1006435 - 02/05/07 09:09 PM Re: Catalytic converter and turbo? [Re: CivicVTi]
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Originally Posted By: CivicVTi
I know it will rob power. I hope not more than 10whp though.


Depends on power levels...

You might be surprised..

I'd venture anywhere from 10-50whp from a cat on mild applications..

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#1007516 - 02/06/07 06:14 AM Re: Catalytic converter and turbo? [Re: SiAdam]
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I did some research. The power level I am aiming at is 400 flywheel HP. I'll use a 3" downpipe and exhaust. I saw that the car sound (Magnaflow) cat model #94009 has a 3" inlet/outlet and is suitable for engines up to 5.9lt. I think it should work on a turbo B16/B18 at 400hp without robbing more than 10-15whp. What do you guys think?
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#1007703 - 02/06/07 08:47 AM Re: Catalytic converter and turbo? [Re: CivicVTi]
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Go for it & let us know.

Btw, you won't know how much power it's "robbing" unless you do a cutout before the cat to measure the difference...

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#1007831 - 02/06/07 09:36 AM Re: Catalytic converter and turbo? [Re: CivicVTi]
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Originally Posted By: CivicVTi
I think it should work on a turbo B16/B18 at 400hp without robbing more than 10-15whp. What do you guys think?


A 3 inch cat does not flow straight through. No matter how big you go, their will always be an elemet on the inside that WILL slow you exhaust exit and in the long run rob you of hp.

Good time for a test of 3 inch pipe vs. 3 inch cat. I'm sure we'd all like to see your results.\:\)

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#1008589 - 02/06/07 12:49 PM Re: Catalytic converter and turbo? [Re: crvtecrob]
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Yes, I can provide such results since I have access to a friend's dynapack anytime I want for free. THe only problem is the car will be ready in about 1 month. I'll keep you posted guys. Specs:

B16 block resleeved
84mm 9:1 wiseco ceramic coated pistons (1714cc displacement)
IB spec H-beam rods
ITR head/valves/springs/cams
ITR CNC ported intake manifold
GT3076R turbo, 0.63AR turbine, 0.60AR compressor
S300 tuned by me (S300 controlled boost and by gear)

Plan to do 17-18psi and test it with 110 octane at 25psi.
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#9079218 - 07/13/17 11:48 PM Re: Catalytic converter and turbo? [Re: CivicVTi]
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