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#9124689 - 09/06/17 02:36 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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I'm getting 2yrs fixed in December and getting rid of this burden ASAP.
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#9124711 - 09/06/17 02:51 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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 Originally Posted By: Screamin DC2R
 Originally Posted By: iamsnob
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just locked in 2.19 for 2yr...but really contemplated going 3 to 5yr...but damn it don't wanna pay more lol. i've just been flipping cheap 2yr locked in rates for awhile and it seems work out good enough. figure why pay more now when no guarantee shit will go up in the future (it will but very slowly). so meh, will just pay the cheapest 2yr fixed in the future then too.


If there is a trend of rate increase, the future fixed rate is going to be higher than now, no? Wile the 2 years fixed worked for you the last 5-7 years, it may not be in the 2.15% everytime you renew going forward.


i know. that's fine, as since the increases will be so minor 'every 2 yrs' going fwd (at least it has been until now). rates will prob go up a bit more than usual over say the next 10 yrs but meh, not gonna split hairs over calculating the difference.

not to mention i plan to try and pay off mine IN the next 10yrs so fuck dem bank s0n!


What's the rush paying off your mortgage?

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#9124728 - 09/06/17 02:57 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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 Originally Posted By: eddie_82
I'm getting 2yrs fixed in December and getting rid of this burden ASAP.

How come only 2 years? Just curious as to the strategy.

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#9124730 - 09/06/17 02:58 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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Let the firesale of homes begin \:D
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#9124736 - 09/06/17 03:00 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Risky Business]
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Hmmm at what point is smith maneuver not going to make sense? It's cutting close, unless I keep doing cash advances on credit cards when they have 0% for a year with a 1% fee.
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#9124768 - 09/06/17 03:12 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Hatorade]
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I'm rolling with 2.64% for 5 years
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#9124941 - 09/06/17 04:53 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: ]
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I am going in tomorrow for a meeting with RBC. I am up for renewal in december. Over the phone offer was 3.04 fixed 5years. I will post up what comes up in the meeting.
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#9125082 - 09/06/17 07:12 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Cee_mon]
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primary is paid for and rental is 2.39 fixed for 5 years. *anxiously waits for the firesale*
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#9125833 - 09/07/17 12:31 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Risky Business]
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Let the firesale of homes begin \:D

My Balbi is ready
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#9125861 - 09/07/17 12:48 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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 Originally Posted By: SuPeR-MaRiO
 Originally Posted By: eddie_82
I'm getting 2yrs fixed in December and getting rid of this burden ASAP.

How come only 2 years? Just curious as to the strategy.


I'll have it paid off in less than two years if I do nothing.

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#9126265 - 09/07/17 04:37 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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^ amaze!
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#9126364 - 09/07/17 05:37 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Risky Business]
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RBC offered 2.64 fixed for 2 years. Took it as it will be last time renewing.
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#9126886 - 09/08/17 08:31 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Cee_mon]
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Mine comes up in Dec with TD. Spoke w rep last week before the rate hike...decided to be a good husband and told the TD telephone rep I need to talk to the wife.....(rates went up a day later)


2 yr 2.64%
3 yr 2.99%
5 yr 3.06%

We aren't planning to move but 5 yrs seems like a long commitment. Thinking of going with 2 years and go from there.

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#9126904 - 09/08/17 08:46 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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 Originally Posted By: eddie_82
 Originally Posted By: SuPeR-MaRiO
 Originally Posted By: eddie_82
I'm getting 2yrs fixed in December and getting rid of this burden ASAP.

How come only 2 years? Just curious as to the strategy.


I'll have it paid off in less than two years if I do nothing.

Congrats man!
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#9126967 - 09/08/17 09:35 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: iamfob]
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It's not a big deal really. Still took longer than it should have, but heck, you gotta live a little too \:D
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#9132887 - 09/15/17 11:14 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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Rates went up again. 2.79% for two years now.


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#9132911 - 09/15/17 12:02 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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That's it. Crash happening!!!
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#9137066 - 09/20/17 02:51 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Hatorade]
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mine renews in February.. fucking fuck
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#9137121 - 09/20/17 03:40 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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 Originally Posted By: eddie_82


Rates went up again. 2.79% for two years now.


Specifically, fixed rates went up this time, preceded by variable/prime increase the previous week.

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#9138000 - 09/21/17 05:19 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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Ok I'm really torn and could use some advice/opinions.

Currently I'm on a variable for prime minus 0.50%. It was nice at the beginning of the year when my rate was 2.20% but with the increases its now up to 2.70% Its still a good rate, but if you were in my shoes would you lock in for 5 years at 3.04% or would you ride out the variable? It's pretty much guaranteed that there won't be any decreases in the next five years, but will they go up another 0.30%? I think its pretty likely.

What would you do? I'm leaning with locking in.

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#9138175 - 09/21/17 10:38 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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When is your variable term up?
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#9138214 - 09/22/17 06:14 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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Not for another 4 years, so if I do lock in my only option is for 5 years, can't lock in for shorter term.
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#9138229 - 09/22/17 07:06 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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Still variable here.
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#9138260 - 09/22/17 08:07 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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I don't think I would jump ship yet.
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#9138262 - 09/22/17 08:18 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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Fixed and variable rates are just going to go up further, my thought was lock in now vs later when it's higher. I can already get the pre-recent-increase price.
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#9138264 - 09/22/17 08:28 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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was tempted to lock in a 5yr fixed 2yrs ago, guess i coulda as the rate was not bad for 5yr but still quite a bit more than the 2yr we chose. we've been flipping 2yr fixed rates (doing the 6 month early renew up until this year rates went up so fuck that lol) for the past 6 yrs and i think it's worked out nice...always paying lowest rate. now that rates APPEAR to be steadily rising now and in the coming years locking in a 5yr fixed may not be such a bad idea. we're sticking to just flipping 2yr fixed tho.
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#9138293 - 09/22/17 08:58 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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 Originally Posted By: SuPeR-MaRiO
Fixed and variable rates are just going to go up further, my thought was lock in now vs later when it's higher. I can already get the pre-recent-increase price.


I'd stay the course for now.

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#9138298 - 09/22/17 09:16 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Risky Business]
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I should add that I have two segments to my mtg. One is the variable and the other is a fixed at 2.45%. Perhaps the latter would balance out if I were to lock in for 5 years.

I need to make a decision today if I want the 3.04% rate

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#9138300 - 09/22/17 09:19 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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If it makes you sleep better at night then lock in.

Just understand you are accepting to pay a premium out of fear that's not based on anything fundamental. For you to be on the losing end of this mortgage rates would have to go up by half a percent within 2 years (at a quarter you are breaking even).

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#9138388 - 09/22/17 10:35 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
If it makes you sleep better at night then lock in.

Just understand you are accepting to pay a premium out of fear that's not based on anything fundamental. For you to be on the losing end of this mortgage rates would have to go up by half a percent within 2 years (at a quarter you are breaking even).



I have $6M in mortgages so the bank forces me to lock at 5 years.

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#9138481 - 09/22/17 11:32 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: xza8]
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Rumor is that there will be another increase before the end of the year, most likely December of another 0.25%.
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#9138514 - 09/22/17 11:56 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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In that case you should lock in \:\)
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#9138541 - 09/22/17 12:08 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Risky Business]
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I'm not concerned about payments and such. Its more of locking in when I could've benefited from my existing lower rate. But I guess thats the concern whenever you decide between variable and fixed

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#9138551 - 09/22/17 12:14 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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Well if you are not concerned why lock in on rumors?
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#9142979 - 09/27/17 03:19 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Risky Business]
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https://globalnews.ca/news/3771953/bank-of-canada-interest-rates-going-forward/

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On Wednesday, as he made his first public comments since July, Poloz said the bank’s decision to raise the rate a second time followed a string of unexpectedly strong economic numbers.

The bank's next scheduled rate announcement is scheduled for Oct. 25.

Before the speech, most analysts had been expecting the central bank to raise the benchmark rate a few more times over the coming year.

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