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#9074011 - 07/07/17 10:09 AM RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates
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Have you locked up your fixed rate yet? Or are most of you still on the variable rate?
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#9074013 - 07/07/17 10:12 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: iamfob]
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i'm due aug 7th, locking in today as "early" as it's 30 day limit

rbc , 2yr fixed, 2.19% (up from 2.09%)
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#9074018 - 07/07/17 10:15 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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My window for early renewal opens in August, so I can't do shit right now.

Looking at the 2yr/2.19 as well. Or just pay the damn thing off and ball out.

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#9074045 - 07/07/17 10:30 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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Not due until next year, but likely go variable.

I have a pretty good rate right now and will have to see what the market looks like at that time. It helps that my wife is a mortgage broker.
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#9074057 - 07/07/17 10:38 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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 Originally Posted By: eddie_82
just pay the damn thing off and ball out.


Do this.

Assuming you would put that money in the market otherwise, at the current peaks/records we are reaching paying it off is probably the best use of money now imo. At least all signs point that way.

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#9074064 - 07/07/17 10:41 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Risky Business]
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#9074074 - 07/07/17 10:44 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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that bubble will pop too, I promise.
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#9074170 - 07/07/17 11:24 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
 Originally Posted By: eddie_82
just pay the damn thing off and ball out.


Do this.

Assuming you would put that money in the market otherwise, at the current peaks/records we are reaching paying it off is probably the best use of money now imo. At least all signs point that way.


So you're saying with interest at 2.19% vs. 8% portfolio gain is better to pay off mortgage?
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#9074223 - 07/07/17 12:00 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Hatorade]
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I renewed in January. I have my mtg split

5 year fixed @ 2.49
5 year variable @ 2.20

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#9074225 - 07/07/17 12:01 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Hatorade]
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That's assuming you can earn 8%.
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#9074232 - 07/07/17 12:11 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Hatorade]
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 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
 Originally Posted By: eddie_82
just pay the damn thing off and ball out.


Do this.

Assuming you would put that money in the market otherwise, at the current peaks/records we are reaching paying it off is probably the best use of money now imo. At least all signs point that way.


So you're saying with interest at 2.19% vs. 8% portfolio gain is better to pay off mortgage?


The equity market is overvalued and you could be taking a 25%+ haircut during the "next" recession, whenever that happens (probably sooner than later). So yes, as of today I'd feel much better paying off my mortgage at the low interest that it's at than to gamble with a looming recession.

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#9074285 - 07/07/17 12:37 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Risky Business]
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True. I often wonder about the looming recession as well.
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#9074307 - 07/07/17 12:44 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Hatorade]
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#9074339 - 07/07/17 12:59 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
 Originally Posted By: eddie_82
just pay the damn thing off and ball out.


Do this.

Assuming you would put that money in the market otherwise, at the current peaks/records we are reaching paying it off is probably the best use of money now imo. At least all signs point that way.


So you're saying with interest at 2.19% vs. 8% portfolio gain is better to pay off mortgage?


The equity market is overvalued and you could be taking a 25%+ haircut during the "next" recession, whenever that happens (probably sooner than later). So yes, as of today I'd feel much better paying off my mortgage at the low interest that it's at than to gamble with a looming recession.


+1 to this (similar to what we've been doing the past 5+ yrs), just pay it down as much to the principle$ amt as you can...if you have some extra money lying around that is, which in this day and age is tricky. i usually toss some funds to my mortg before renewal time. rbc has the lump some once-per-year payment option as well, in addition to the double-up payment option, which i'm sure all banks do too. but damn it with such lil interest, it's so easy to get sucked into borrowing large amt's too!

re. recession, who the hell knows. damn central banking system /tin foil hat. but at the same time, it's up to ppl to manage their own money and risk.

for me personally, besides the usual rrsp/resp/mainstream crap/etc. i've been tossing cdn$ into bitcoin and playing markets there for the past two years and it's paid off handsomely. i think it's a good option to have in your back pocket should the current FIAT system go to shit /super tin foil hat. CDN government doesn't tax it (yet) either.
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#9074768 - 07/07/17 06:58 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Fuck I lost another $200 today in my TFSA 😢
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#9074782 - 07/07/17 07:24 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Hatorade]
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#9074819 - 07/07/17 08:28 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: LNXGUY]
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You're up? Jelly. My TFSA alone is down $2k after 2 weeks.
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#9075652 - 07/10/17 09:38 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Hatorade]
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I'm on variable... due in another 1-2 yrs.
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#9077230 - 07/12/17 08:59 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Hatorade]
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Just got my June statement. My couch potato investments are only up 4.1% this year. Maybe it's time to cash out...
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#9077502 - 07/12/17 12:29 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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Do you guys trade so much that you track monthly movement? I look at big dips as buying opportunities.

The idea of a couch potato is to leave it alone. If you can earn 4% compound per year, you've done well.
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#9077562 - 07/12/17 01:05 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: SW20_MR2]
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No comments on Bank of Canada raising the mortgage rates from 0.5% to 0.75%?
Canadian $ just shot up.
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#9077571 - 07/12/17 01:10 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: porschetr]
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Bank of Canada doesn't set mortgage rates.
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#9077615 - 07/12/17 01:25 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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Sorry, Interest rate.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3581766/mortgage-calculator-canada-interest-rate-hike/
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Today, rates went up by 0.25 of a percentage point. Many economists expect the central bank to raise rates by a full percentage point (up to 1.5 per cent) by the end of 2018.
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#9077878 - 07/12/17 04:01 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: porschetr]
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yeah i've been taking a small hit also on my investments over the past couple of weeks. i hope it pops back up soon.
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#9077923 - 07/12/17 05:03 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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Just got my June statement. My couch potato investments are only up 4.1% this year. Maybe it's time to cash out...


Cashed out late March, early April. Chilling on the sidelines now, wow market timer oh no.

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#9078320 - 07/13/17 07:07 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Risky Business]
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Just got my June statement. My couch potato investments are only up 4.1% this year. Maybe it's time to cash out...


Cashed out late March, early April. Chilling on the sidelines now, wow market timer oh no.


Should have sold the house too \:D

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#9078338 - 07/13/17 08:04 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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Greedy banks, they sure were quick to follow with a 25bps prime rate hike, despite not cutting the full 25 at the last two drops.

Last two BoC target rate drops of 25 bps each, the banks only dropped prime 15bps.

Nice little padded margin there.

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#9081423 - 07/17/17 10:33 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: spd-dmn]
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Is anyone with a variable rate looking to lock in at a fixed rate due to the increase? From what I gather there may be another increase in October.
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#9081433 - 07/17/17 10:51 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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just locked in 2.19 for 2yr...but really contemplated going 3 to 5yr...but damn it don't wanna pay more lol. i've just been flipping cheap 2yr locked in rates for awhile and it seems work out good enough. figure why pay more now when no guarantee shit will go up in the future (it will but very slowly). so meh, will just pay the cheapest 2yr fixed in the future then too.
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#9081437 - 07/17/17 10:56 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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I'm fucked. Still 11 months out on my 2yr. Oh well.
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#9082219 - 07/18/17 08:14 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
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Just got my June statement. My couch potato investments are only up 4.1% this year. Maybe it's time to cash out...


Cashed out late March, early April. Chilling on the sidelines now, wow market timer oh no.


Same, but you beat me by 3 months. I cashed out in May.

I feel a bit nervous though. That much money just sitting there doing nothing. I feel I'm missing out. I feel like an old grandma that's stashed her life savings under a mattress. It's just sitting there depreciating. Ugh!
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#9082265 - 07/18/17 09:17 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Just A Troll]
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#9082270 - 07/18/17 09:24 AM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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 Originally Posted By: Screamin DC2R
just locked in 2.19 for 2yr...but really contemplated going 3 to 5yr...but damn it don't wanna pay more lol. i've just been flipping cheap 2yr locked in rates for awhile and it seems work out good enough. figure why pay more now when no guarantee shit will go up in the future (it will but very slowly). so meh, will just pay the cheapest 2yr fixed in the future then too.


If there is a trend of rate increase, the future fixed rate is going to be higher than now, no? Wile the 2 years fixed worked for you the last 5-7 years, it may not be in the 2.15% everytime you renew going forward.
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#9082515 - 07/18/17 12:54 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: iamfob]
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just locked in 2.19 for 2yr...but really contemplated going 3 to 5yr...but damn it don't wanna pay more lol. i've just been flipping cheap 2yr locked in rates for awhile and it seems work out good enough. figure why pay more now when no guarantee shit will go up in the future (it will but very slowly). so meh, will just pay the cheapest 2yr fixed in the future then too.


If there is a trend of rate increase, the future fixed rate is going to be higher than now, no? Wile the 2 years fixed worked for you the last 5-7 years, it may not be in the 2.15% everytime you renew going forward.


i know. that's fine, as since the increases will be so minor 'every 2 yrs' going fwd (at least it has been until now). rates will prob go up a bit more than usual over say the next 10 yrs but meh, not gonna split hairs over calculating the difference.

not to mention i plan to try and pay off mine IN the next 10yrs so fuck dem bank s0n!
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#9124667 - 09/06/17 02:26 PM Re: RBC, CIBC, TD raised their fixed term mortgage rates [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Another increase by BoC today which presumably will translate to a 0.25 increase to Prime in the coming days.

Anyone with variable locking in?

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