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#1869356 - 09/18/07 07:03 PM Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experiences
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looking for a pad and rotor combo that has worked for someone. 00 Si that sees daily street, with occasianal SCCA solo.

Looking for:
1. slightly better performance/quality than stock
2. ~$200 for the front set of rotors and pads
3. longevity

I do not want pads that are gonna gouge my rotors and render them useless in a year, don't care how good they stop. I don't want warped rotors in a couple years either. I want to go through 1 or almost 2 set of pads before I deal with having to replace rotors again. Need a combo that works. do not want to have incompatible pads / rotors.

Honda OEM would be an option, but they are not the best either. honda rotors of this vintage seam to warp early too.

companies I am considering so far for rotors (slotted):
ATE
Brembo
Powerslot

pads:
ATE Premium One (ceramic)
Hawk Perf (Ceramic)

please only speak on experience. no he-said-she-said or i-read-sport-compact comments. Please do not echo some comment from a forum, as most forums are about 95% BS'ers anyhow.

Hoping the track guys can help me out with this.

Thanks fellas.
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#1869564 - 09/18/07 08:01 PM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experiences [Re: foca]
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I have had Brembo Cross-Drilled rotors on my car for about 2 and a half years now with hawk HPS pads for about the last two years and they are still great. I would highly recommend the Hawk HPS pads, decently quiet, stop great when cold and are still pretty good when hot. I use them for daily-driving, solo and time trials. When I actually have to get new rotors, which won't be any time real soon, I will get Brembo blanks instead of the cross-drilleds because the drilling is useless, but I still have no complaints about the rotors I have on now and they looks to still have a lot of life left on them.
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#1871463 - 09/19/07 10:39 AM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experiences [Re: Hemix]
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im running:
Brembo Blanks
Hawk HPS pads
Goodwrich SS lines
and Motul fluid.

solid setup. firmer than stock while still keeping longevity.
i have some brembo blank rears if your interested. BNIB.
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#1873306 - 09/19/07 05:35 PM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experiences [Re: FBP EM1]
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thanks fbp.

I will check my rears again, but i do not think I need them right now.
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#1873309 - 09/19/07 05:37 PM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experiences [Re: foca]
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fbp,

how long have you had this set on?

is it an EK Si?
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#1873324 - 09/19/07 05:42 PM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experiences [Re: foca]
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since april of this year. no problems at all with the setup.
yes on a 2000 Si.
lmk if u need those rear's tho...
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#1877940 - 09/21/07 01:43 AM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experiences [Re: FBP EM1]
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Autozone rotors, Dot 4 fluid, and Hawk HP+ pads. I would never go back to HPS.

I think it's all the same unless you really start racing the car.
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#1880439 - 09/21/07 07:20 PM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experiences [Re: Mr. Knowitall.]
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never go back to HPS??

why. what advantage have you felt with the + ??

thanks.
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#1881212 - 09/22/07 04:20 AM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experiences [Re: foca]
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Less fade during aggressive street driving.
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#1881494 - 09/22/07 10:45 AM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experiences [Re: Mr. Knowitall.]
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 Originally Posted By: Mr. Knowitall.
Less fade during aggressive street driving.


You must be doing some seriously aggressive street driving. I've done some pretty steep grade canyons with mine and no brake fade.
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#1881502 - 09/22/07 10:55 AM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experiences [Re: Hemix]
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I don't do dangerous runs on twisty roads, for a number of reasons: you will hit an animal/pothole/oncoming traffic (some idiot doing what your doing god forbid), etc. But a fourth gear pull and down to freeway speeds is not appreciated w/ the HPS. I can easily fade the HPS but not the HP+. The will still HP+ fade badly, but it just takes a little longer.
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#1881752 - 09/22/07 01:20 PM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experiences [Re: Mr. Knowitall.]
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i had this set up for a while and proved to do very well for the average daily / autox car

*Rotora Slotted rotors
*Axxis ulimates(front)
*Autozone blanks and duralast pads(rear only)
*Motul RBF600 fluid

now you wont need fluid that expensive and blanks all the way around would be fine. i have now upgraded to hawk HPS+ pads all the way around due to more track time/autox time. there awesome if you dont mind the dust and the noise from the pad(its like a dump truck at times)
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#1882445 - 09/22/07 08:17 PM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experien [Re: foca]
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anyone had any experience with these ATE rotors??

http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brakes.jsp?make=ATE&model=PremiumOne+Slotted+Rotor

seam like a good idea, from a reputable company.
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#1892101 - 09/25/07 07:47 PM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experien [Re: foca]
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i always ran brembo oe rotors and akekbono ceramic pads.

you don't need more than that for street.

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#1903840 - 09/29/07 01:51 PM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experien [Re: Bo Mook]
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EM1
Brembo blanks
HP + pads
Honda fluid bled monthly
My Experiences: please excuse the long post
My car is used exclusively for autcross. I still drive it to events, and on nice days, but it's my toy rather than a daily. I've had this setup for ~7k miles, and the pads are more than 90% left, the rotors like new. I will warn the pads dust horribly, and do have some vibrations, however once they're hot they grab well. They have taken me to a Solo II HS championship in my local club, and they still work well on the street. For strickly street I would recommend the HPS, I've used those and they are very nice, I've never really left their effective range on the street, and they are light on the dust, but they don't match the + stopping power. I would use no other than brembo blank rotors, you can even get them at NAPA. If your local napa says they can't, pm me and I'll get you the part numbers, I managed a napa for a few years. Honda fluid is great for street and solo, only if you use your car for track days and don't flush the fluid regularly would I suggest anything else (motul recommended there, or ate super blue). Hope this helps
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#1912123 - 10/02/07 11:50 AM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experien [Re: greenmaxse]
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Power Slot rotors (front & rear)
Hawk HPS pads
Honda fluid

Just remember, your brakes don't mean shit if your tires suck. ;\)
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#1912167 - 10/02/07 12:06 PM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experien [Re: oni]
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 Originally Posted By: oni
Power Slot rotors (front & rear)
Hawk HPS pads
Honda fluid

Just remember, your brakes don't mean shit if your tires suck. ;\)


That's very true-tires stop your car, not brakes. I run 205/50/15 azenis rt-615s, and I fight lockup regularly on the course. On a side note though-the response of the pads make it easier to modulate, thus keeping the tires at maximum effectiveness. R-comps make the car stop like a lotus. Also find out what class you want to run. Braided lines or any slotted/drilled or different weight/material of rotor will take you out of stock class and into sts. You can use any pads/fluid though.
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#1921819 - 10/05/07 08:23 AM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experien [Re: greenmaxse]
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Autozone Duralast rotors
Carbotech Bobcat pads http://www.ctbrakes.com/products.html
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#1926150 - 10/07/07 05:00 AM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experien [Re: FCobra94]
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i used to use the HPS, but will never use again... i went axxis ultimates, and never looked back... even though they dust like hell.. but so did the HPS... jsut a notch less.
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#2298513 - 02/05/08 10:49 PM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experien [Re: ]
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On my 00 Civic Si for STS SCCA Class I ran the following:

00-03
Brembo blanks
AEM pads
Goodrich Stainless steel lines
Valvoline Synpower Brake Fluid

When I did a track day at VIR I had serious brake fade on my final class room session. Which was expected with AEM pads and Brembo blanks. The air bleed itself out on the way home though.

04-06 - I was sponsored by Rotora and got all this free.
Rotora Brake slotted rotors
Axxis Ultimate pads

I was mildly surprised on the rotor and pad combination when I picked up sponsorship from Rotora. Did some lapping days with no problems of fade.
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#2435886 - 03/14/08 06:02 AM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experiences [Re: foca]
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Axxis Ultimate
Brembo Rotor Drilled (front/rear)
Honda Fluid
Stock Brake line

Now, I'm trying to change with:
EBC Yellow (my friend use it and its damn good!)
Motul (Is it gonna make big different?)
Goodridge Brake Line Kit (I donno if this works good or just wasting my money)

Just try to brake!!!

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#2486293 - 03/29/08 11:15 AM Re: Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experiences [Re: peyo]
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I loved the OEM/Autozone rotor and HP+ pads, but then again, i LOVED my Carbotech Panter XP's and Autozone rotors, but them ate through 2 sets of rotors for 1 set of pads \:D
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#2505902 - 04/03/08 05:52 PM Brake Rotor and Pad combo's - lessons learned / experiences [Re: Runnin@Redline Jr]
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Just quick question..Anyone suggested using Motul 5.1 (its non sillicone base)and using goodridge ss brake line on that?

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