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#8924007 - 01/25/17 10:50 AM Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews
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https://www.thestar.com/news/immigration...glos-study.html
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#8924044 - 01/25/17 11:06 AM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: furball]
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#8924080 - 01/25/17 11:30 AM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: f22b-dohc]
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So would the situation be reversed in Asian countries with an anglo name? Gwai lo, and hak gwai much?
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#8924154 - 01/25/17 12:23 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Choco 'Nuck
So would the situation be reversed in Asian countries with an anglo name? Gwai lo, and hak gwai much?

A lot of big corporations in Asia (HK for example) only have gwai lo as their regional VP. My friend who work at Manulife HK said the Regional VP is some white dude from Murica



I have a client from the bank, her husband is a gwai lo and he got a job offer in HK for some German manfacturing companies as the head of HR in Hong Kong. They offered a lot more money to relocate him from Canada to HK.
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#8924342 - 01/25/17 02:28 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: iamfob]
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#8924351 - 01/25/17 02:32 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: titty sprinkles]
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The applicants in the study had fictitious names that were English (Greg Johnson and Emily Brown), Chinese (Lei Li and Xuiying Zhang), Indian (Samir Sharma and Tara Singh) and Pakistani (Ali Saeed and Hina Chaudhry).


Edited by furball (01/25/17 02:33 PM)

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#8924358 - 01/25/17 02:38 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: iamfob]
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 Originally Posted By: iamfob
 Originally Posted By: Choco 'Nuck
So would the situation be reversed in Asian countries with an anglo name? Gwai lo, and hak gwai much?

A lot of big corporations in Asia (HK for example) only have gwai lo as their regional VP. My friend who work at Manulife HK said the Regional VP is some white dude from Murica



I have a client from the bank, her husband is a gwai lo and he got a job offer in HK for some German manfacturing companies as the head of HR in Hong Kong. They offered a lot more money to relocate him from Canada to HK.


why in the fuck would they have a gringo run chinky HR. finance, sure. operations, definitely. sales & marketing. maybe. HR? so much cultural bias in the practice i would think they want someone that understands the culture...

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#8924368 - 01/25/17 02:48 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: titty sprinkles]
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 Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles
^what's your chinaR name?


Tap Sum Bong

My Chinese name is on all my documents but I have a gwai lo name for work. My stage name in Canada is a whitie name.


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#8924588 - 01/25/17 06:19 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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I don't even know why I am replying to this troll click bait article, but i can't fucking stand the age old argument of " if two applicants are the same, but [insert bullshit criteria] is different, who do you hire?

I've gone over hundreds of resumes in the last decade, i have NEVER in my life seen two identical candidates, ever, not even close. But if a bunch of virgin wallies from U of T and Ryerson are looking to drum up some excuses why they fucking suck at life, i suppose this isn't a bad way of doing it.

I mean let's think for a second, in 2017, in Toronto, who the fuck makes a hiring decision based on a name?


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#8924599 - 01/25/17 06:34 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: Risky Business]
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Risky hiring so white....
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#8924650 - 01/25/17 07:51 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Choco 'Nuck
So would the situation be reversed in Asian countries with an anglo name? Gwai lo, and hak gwai much?


My racial stereotypes is based on my limited exposure in life in HK (perhaps Fobster can double check my assessment)

Whities (bak gwai) > Cantonese speaking chinks > Mandarin speaking chinks > brownies (ah Cha) > blacks (huk gwai)

Rationale: whites will always seem more educated, and better to handle international clients

Mandarin speaking chunks: the ones that comes down from mainland to look for work is likely uneducated (if they had money, they'd own HK Chink ass or wouldn't come down to look for work at all)

Browns: they have a better chance of picking up Cantonese better than Blacks.
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#8924672 - 01/25/17 08:04 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: hyper-s2k]
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Time to move to China for a better job?
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#8924711 - 01/25/17 08:41 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: Risky Business]
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Large corporations use special software to filter out candidates. I know we do. Even smaller companies can easily get a cloud based HR solution these days. I'm not surprised that "hung wai lo" gets flagged by some way too restrictive HR AI.
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#8924719 - 01/25/17 08:53 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
Time to move to China for a better job?


Better paying job for you, but your health may take a huge toll.

That pollution and fake food doe.
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'08 //M3 - now @ 90,xxx km - wtf did i do?
'13 x1 - now @ 99,xxx km - a2b car
'10 x3 - now @ 123,xxx km - time 2 go?
'03 s2k - now @ 80,xxx km - a2a car
'08 535i - sold @ 149,421 km - cashed out just in time!
'08 impreza 2.5i - sold @ - 64,147 km - smh POS
'01 rav4 - killed @ 155,879 km - RIP old friend

"Driving in the snow is like sex. If you want to avoid accidents, abstinence is the best policy. If you're gonna take her for a spin, use protection." - Rick Mercer

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#8924723 - 01/25/17 08:55 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: Just A Troll]
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 Originally Posted By: Just A Troll
Large corporations use special software to filter out candidates. I know we do. Even smaller companies can easily get a cloud based HR solution these days. I'm not surprised that "hung wai lo" gets flagged by some way too restrictive HR AI.


didn't choco posted a link a while back about people changing their names for that exact reason?
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'08 //M3 - now @ 90,xxx km - wtf did i do?
'13 x1 - now @ 99,xxx km - a2b car
'10 x3 - now @ 123,xxx km - time 2 go?
'03 s2k - now @ 80,xxx km - a2a car
'08 535i - sold @ 149,421 km - cashed out just in time!
'08 impreza 2.5i - sold @ - 64,147 km - smh POS
'01 rav4 - killed @ 155,879 km - RIP old friend

"Driving in the snow is like sex. If you want to avoid accidents, abstinence is the best policy. If you're gonna take her for a spin, use protection." - Rick Mercer

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#8924763 - 01/25/17 09:51 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: hyper-s2k]
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We had a guy who worked here once upon a time, whose name was Peter Pang.
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#8924766 - 01/25/17 09:55 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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saw a name "long dong"
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#8925152 - 01/26/17 10:13 AM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: titty sprinkles]
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would you interview:

Jack Ng Hoff?
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#8925258 - 01/26/17 11:37 AM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: f22b-dohc]
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What about Ho Lee Fook ?
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'08 //M3 - now @ 90,xxx km - wtf did i do?
'13 x1 - now @ 99,xxx km - a2b car
'10 x3 - now @ 123,xxx km - time 2 go?
'03 s2k - now @ 80,xxx km - a2a car
'08 535i - sold @ 149,421 km - cashed out just in time!
'08 impreza 2.5i - sold @ - 64,147 km - smh POS
'01 rav4 - killed @ 155,879 km - RIP old friend

"Driving in the snow is like sex. If you want to avoid accidents, abstinence is the best policy. If you're gonna take her for a spin, use protection." - Rick Mercer

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#8925336 - 01/26/17 12:12 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: hyper-s2k]
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 Originally Posted By: hyper-s2k

Whities (bak gwai) > Cantonese speaking chinks > Mandarin speaking chinks > brownies (ah Cha) > blacks (huk gwai)






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#8925498 - 01/26/17 01:27 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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#8925556 - 01/26/17 02:20 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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#8947411 - 02/16/17 01:25 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: titty sprinkles]
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Chloe Wang to Chloe Bennet.

http://nextshark.com/why-chloe-bennet-stopped-using-her-chinese-last-name/

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Why ‘Agents of SHIELD’ Star Chloe Bennet Stopped Using Her Chinese Last Name

“I was having trouble booking things with my last name. I think it was hard for people to cast me as an ethnic, as an Asian American woman,” Bennet told the Star in 2014. “But I still wanted to keep my dad’s name, and I wanted to respect him, so I used his first name.”

“Oh, the first audition I went on after I changed my name, I got booked,” Bennet shared to The Daily Beast last year. “So that’s a pretty clear little snippet of how Hollywood works.”




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#8947460 - 02/16/17 02:03 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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 Originally Posted By: eddie_82
We had a guy who worked here once upon a time, whose name was Peter Pang.


Nextmod owner Peter Pang??

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#8947481 - 02/16/17 02:17 PM Re: Names like Hung Wai Lo and Be Xi Wang = less interviews [Re: fatso]
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Different guy.

Funny that even the owner of Nextmod is a knockoff!

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