#8861851 - 11/24/16 06:07 AM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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I'm still all for it though, if it reduces congestion on the DVP for the times that I drive into work (and will expense)
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#8861856 - 11/24/16 06:56 AM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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Ridiculous. What do they want us to take instead, poorly accessible public transit?
Try carpooling!
I just started a group in our office. We're 5 people. We use the 407. Our savings per year are about $3000.
Worth it!
We have to reject people that are asking to join. I'm trying to help out Harpeet, in another division, to start his own carpool.
And that's a carpool from Mississauga to Markham. Not exactly a heavily used route. Just imagine from location x to downtown using the DVP/Gardiner. You'll get tons of candidates, save lots of $, and help reduce traffic as well.
All you have to do is discipline yourself and not be so selfish.
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#8861866 - 11/24/16 07:22 AM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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Ridiculous. What do they want us to take instead, poorly accessible public transit? Try carpooling! I just started a group in our office. We're 5 people. We use the 407. Our savings per year are about $3000. Worth it! We have to reject people that are asking to join. I'm trying to help out Harpeet, in another division, to start his own carpool. And that's a carpool from Mississauga to Markham. Not exactly a heavily used route. Just imagine from location x to downtown using the DVP/Gardiner. You'll get tons of candidates, save lots of $, and help reduce traffic as well. All you have to do is discipline yourself and not be so selfish.
I was going to troll you here, but I agree. If there is a will there is a way. I work out in the sticks and even I if I put the effort in can easily find 2/3 people to carpool with if I was serious about making it happen.
As far as the tax, I have no issue paying tolls if it was going to make a difference where the DVP flows better, etc. But if history was any indication it's just another cash grab with no positive impact.
I got a good laugh out of the guy on z103 today, they talked about how we get charged all the different taxes for roads, basically getting raped, he is surprised the city of Toronto hasn't robbed a bank yet. lulz
It's $2 flat fee for entry/exit, that's dumb as fuck.
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#8861900 - 11/24/16 08:48 AM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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Kingston Rd too. Good night.
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#8861988 - 11/24/16 10:23 AM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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#8861995 - 11/24/16 10:29 AM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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dude, this isn't the 90's 407 got dat under wraps
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#8862001 - 11/24/16 10:36 AM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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one lane? I thought it's the whole highway
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#8862026 - 11/24/16 10:57 AM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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I have no idea what photo radar has to do with tolls on DVP/Gardiner? These are mutually exclusive events.
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#8862027 - 11/24/16 10:57 AM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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Whats the probability of this actually happening?
I'd say 0% in the next 5 years.
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#8862100 - 11/24/16 01:05 PM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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What they really need to do is to get rid of people that don't know how to drive. Get them off the road to relieve congestion and make it safer for others. They will then be forced to carpool or use public transit. Either way, it's a win.
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#8862118 - 11/24/16 01:35 PM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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Whats the probability of this actually happening? I'd say 0% in the next 5 years.
one of the places that i was reading about this said the tolls won't come in effect until at least 2024.
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#8862208 - 11/24/16 05:03 PM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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Whats the probability of this actually happening? I'd say 0% in the next 5 years. That's what I thought as well
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#8862221 - 11/24/16 05:53 PM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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Indifferent about tolls. I would pay for less congestion.
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#8862293 - 11/24/16 08:55 PM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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At the speed Canada moves it will probably be 2069 by the time the toll system is in place. That is of course after spending a brazillion dollars studying it followed by going over budget by another brazillion.
word.
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#8862377 - 11/25/16 06:50 AM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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What they really need to do is to get rid of people that don't know how to drive. Get them off the road to relieve congestion and make it safer for others. They will then be forced to carpool or use public transit. Either way, it's a win.
All the toll is going to do is get rid of the poorer drivers.
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#8862416 - 11/25/16 09:07 AM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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At the speed Canada moves it will probably be 2069 by the time the toll system is in place. That is of course after spending a brazillion dollars studying it followed by going over budget by another brazillion. word.
Haha, this!
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#8862433 - 11/25/16 09:51 AM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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Some of the argument against it is that people in the 416 would have already paid for the infrastructure via property taxes. (I can agree with that) In theory, they could just bill people with addresses in the 905. The fact Tory suggest no such thing is that he wants mo $$$$...
Hator is right though, they will waste more $$$$ and time doing studies and it will be a long ass while before this will happen.
Edited by A2B-Lexus (11/25/16 09:52 AM)
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#8862512 - 11/25/16 12:43 PM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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its 2 bucks per trip (is that both ways?)
people are still going to drive in...
but this just means
2 now, 3 later, 4, 10...
i think few people would take inner roads to save 2 bucks - dont pay 2 bucks but add a half hr of commute does not compute
does it suck? yes, but if they actually put it to good use, then im for it.
big cities have tolls no? - and yes we dont have to go through a tunnel to go to the city... NY, HK,
Manila uses licence plates as method to control in/ out out of city
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#8880729 - 12/14/16 08:07 AM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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I wonder when/if we will reach a tipping point. People commute over an hour each way on average nowadays no? Will 2/hours each way (4 hours total) be the tipping point or 3 hours each way? JFC
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#8881528 - 12/14/16 04:51 PM
Re: Tolls are coming!
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Spent a little over a hour to drive from Eaton to Markham starting at 3 pm. What a boring ass drive. Luckily I have auto steer and adaptive cruise to manage 90% of the stop and go.
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