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#8770945 - 08/24/16 10:15 AM Damn hospital, played the long wait game.
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Eldest kid has not been feeling well since Sunday night. Lethargic, no appetite and threw up a few times. Thinking it was a bug, we kept her home from camp but now wife is getting concerned. I say ok, will make an appointment with the pediatrician in the morning but she goes and calls telehealth. And what do they say when you call them at 9pm...go to hospital.

Was going to fight it but at this point I knew the fight was lost before it even started so off I go with the kid. Get there at 9:45pm and wait. Had to shuffle seats a few time to jockey closer to the desk as you can't hear them calling names behind two walls of glass and not even trying to speak loudly. Then we waited.

Finally got to register her in at the second station, it is 10:30 now. Waiting. Get to second seating area and waited, it is now pushing midnight. They call us..yay..no. Now in pediatrics waiting area. Now in the bowels of the hospital, no cell signal and no wifi...waiting, can't call wife to say fuck it.

2:45am, still waiting. There is a screaming baby here and a mother that is at wits end with it to be quiet. 3:30ish get moved into the room to see doc..wait, this is just the general area that the adults are being viewed as well, so much for pediatrics. 4am-ish, see doc, gets a sample and wait some more. Results are in, get a script for antibiotics and on our way home at 5am.

Oh and I woke up at 5am the prevous morning to work out...so been awake for 24 hours at this point

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#8770953 - 08/24/16 10:21 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Big Tasty]
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Fucking liberal voters.
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#8770963 - 08/24/16 10:28 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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fuuuuu sounds like a brutal night.

what hospital?

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#8770974 - 08/24/16 10:40 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Big Tasty]
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hope your kiddo is ok.

our lesson was to go straight to sick kids...
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#8770978 - 08/24/16 10:46 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: f22b-dohc]
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East york. Didn't want to deal with the crazies at scarb general so went to our old stomping grounds. Never had it this bad before.

She is doing ok, just that general iky feeling where you just want to rest.

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#8770982 - 08/24/16 10:51 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Big Tasty]
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East York General is the woooooooooooooooooooooooooooorst place. Wait lines are so fucked up and unjustified.

I once waited 8 hours to be seen there when I thought my appendicitis was on its way to burst...with NO ONE IN THE WAITING ROOM before me or after me.

Fuck that shithole.

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#8771055 - 08/24/16 11:39 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Risky Business]
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its worth the drive to parry sound
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#8771076 - 08/24/16 11:51 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: loudsubz]
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 Originally Posted By: loudsubz
its worth the drive to Georgetown

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#8771114 - 08/24/16 12:15 PM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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Wow. Sorry to hear that. Hopefully everything works out in the end.

Side note - I had 2 ultrasounds in the last 3 months and the hospital misplaced the scans results twice. I have to go back on Monday for a third scan. \:\(
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#8771164 - 08/24/16 12:52 PM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: loudsubz]
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 Originally Posted By: loudsubz
its worth the drive to parry sound


Last three times I went to Ajax/Pickering (wtfever it's called now) Longest of the three visits was 4 hours... other two were under 2.
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#8771190 - 08/24/16 01:18 PM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Big Tasty]
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 Originally Posted By: Big Tasty
East york. Didn't want to deal with the crazies at scarb general so went to our old stomping grounds. Never had it this bad before.


ugh east york..- its the closest one to us right now... they sent my wife an ambulance bill and it was for the other kid...- sorted out.

last last time i was there and i ordered tims:

tims guy: how can i help you?
me: i'd like a ham swiss sammich
tims guy: we dont have any bread right now...
fat kid me: that's ok, cheese croissant then.
tims guy: why would you want that???
me: CAUSE ITS GOOD??????? \:D \:D
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#8771274 - 08/24/16 02:12 PM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: f22b-dohc]
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you donkey i was working last night should have came by nygh and i would have gotten you seen in no time.

and telehealth is the most nonsense thing taxpayers pay money for. If they say not to go to the ER and go see your family doc tomorrow and something happens to you then that's a lawsuit; so to be safe they tell everyone to go to the ER. so stupid. they are also lying sacks of shit too, they always say that they fax the ER to let them know that you're coming in ahead of time and what the deal is, i've been working here for 10 years and i've gotten about...2.


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#8771411 - 08/24/16 04:08 PM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: titty sprinkles]
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Ugh had to take one of the twins to a dentist appointment today too , this day just doesn't end. East york is usually good with kids. They have (had) the pediatrics emerg so going with kids was usually a snap. Meh gonna take a nap.
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#8771435 - 08/24/16 04:24 PM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Big Tasty]
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Yup, you finally got a taste of the clusterfuck that is Canadian healthcare. Free healthcare for all, except for middle earners like you and me, its not free at all. For the taxes we pay, the service is absolute shit.

Fuck it, let me take my tax money and pay for private insurance so I can access a private hospital. If that isn't an option, the keep my taxes to fund the public system, and give me the option to purchase additional insurance to access a private hospital (Like Australia). Of course that isn't going to happen, because everyone has to have the same shit level of service, despite not paying the same.

Socialism sucks

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#8771564 - 08/24/16 05:53 PM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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you a middle earner? gtfo
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#8771802 - 08/24/16 09:31 PM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: titty sprinkles]
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I was typing something here earlier today and just backed out.
If it wasn't titty, I would still be waiting for my MRI date.


Hope you kid gets better OP.
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#8771837 - 08/24/16 10:00 PM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: porschetr]
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being awake for 24hrs absolutely sucks.

but Im thikning, wtf did you expect? Unless you role up with a real emergency on your hands you best be getting an ass donut, cause you will be there for a while.
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#8771849 - 08/24/16 10:16 PM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoricuck
wtf did you expect? Unless you role up with a real emergency on your hands you best be getting an ass donut, cause you will be there for a while.




That's not normal.
Patients should not be waiting for hours to see a doctor.
Your jaw will drop when you get out of this little pond with your perfect free healthcare and experience good medical system in other countries.

You've been arguing how great Canadian healthcare is for years, and now say people should expect hours of waiting at hospitals?

Bravo.
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#8771873 - 08/24/16 10:36 PM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: porschetr]
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what is normal?

You roll into ER at 10 at night with a non emergency. Guess what the fuck you will be doing?


Ive never argued "how great" Canadian healthcare is. I just laugh at the faux outrage. And the few(mainly you and canuck) constantly bitching about it, especially you with your ear story. LAWL.
And that its not nearly as bad as you two cry babies portray.

A huge issue for OP was the fact he was up for 24 damn hours. that hurts, and makes the situation a million times worse... but no one said being a parent was easy ;\)

You think there is no order in the ER? They know whats going on. If you need the care right away you get it.

Ideally in this situation he shoudlve gone to his family doctor/pediatrician, not the ER. But thats what teleheatlh told them...good advice or not. Thats for you to decide. OP's gut instinct was right on.

There are always room for improvements. But in todays world of expanding debt and belt tightening I wouldnt expect drastic changes anytime soon. In the meantime, the system generally gets the job done. So ya, you had to sit and wait 6 hrs for something that coudlve(and shoudlve) been dealt with OUTSIDE of EMERGENCY... again, what did you expect?


titty can't always be there to grease the wheels for you.


Take aways:
1.use telehealth as another tool. Not the end all be all answer for your situation
2. Keep ER visits for ... emergencies.

/shit happens, OP went to ER. Had to wait, kid got script. Life moves on. I look forward to porschetrs next hospital complaint thread after he waited for hours because of a paper cut.
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#8771949 - 08/25/16 05:10 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Euphoricuck]
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There you have it folks, now you know how to live life.
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#8771966 - 08/25/16 06:39 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Risky Business]
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Rofl I love these threads
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#8771967 - 08/25/16 06:39 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Denis Si]
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Wtf titty has a hookup ? WHERE AT? IM COMING MEOW
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#8771980 - 08/25/16 07:06 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Risky Business]
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You're welcome
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#8771993 - 08/25/16 07:56 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Euphoricuck]
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well..

you can get your penis removed and be covered by OHIP, but not the cancer removal surgery.

http://www.torontosun.com/2016/08/24/ive...ayor-rips-wynne

http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/2...ector-macmillan

http://news.nationalpost.com/health/mayo...ancer-treatment
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#8772003 - 08/25/16 08:20 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: c2k]
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Except Euphoric has no clue. My mom moved from Milton, to Toronto, and couldn't find a family doctor. My wife had to pull strings just to get her family doctor to take her. There are hardly any clinics accepting new patients (Given the way the gov't claws back OHIP fees, I totally understand why. I had a long discussion with the doctor who owns the cottage next door). A walk in clinic is your only option.

Don't even ask for cottage country, or rural Ontario.

I'll tell you a personal story. My youngest sister developed breast cancer, she had moved back to the Caribbean to help run the hotel business. She had insurance, diagnosed one day, the next day she was in Florida getting treated at one of the premiere Cancer clinics. That would NEVER happen in Canada, you'd have to go through the family doctor, wait for a referral for a specialist, wait for time slots for MRI tests at hospital etc etc.

The Canadian system is already a two tier system, athletes, politicians and other of the chosen few can already bypass the waitlists. Meanwhile, nothing else is equal.

For everything else in life, you buy what you can afford, you buy the house and car that you can afford. Suddenly though, healthcare is different, everyone has to get the same shitty service. Its the same as those douche bags bitching about affordable housing in Toronto. Go live where you can afford, its what all of us on the board did.

The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money

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#8772028 - 08/25/16 08:53 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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I have mentioned this several times, but I will do it again since Euphoric doesn't get it.

A retired doctor who was a friend of my family was looking to fly to India to get artery work done because the waiting period was too long.

A lot of Koreans who can afford, fly to Korea to get detailed diagnose or surgery done.
My parents, who go there annually, gets full health check there, and it's not free. You make an appointment, go next day, see multiple doctors, wait half an hour, walk out with a full report.

Think how dentists are in Toronto. You pretty much walk in and get shits done, sometimes they force you to take x-ray, ultrasound etc so they make more moeny, and you do right away in house.
Similar thing happens in Korea, but with MRI Some hospitals encourage you to go for an MRI downstairs. and in 20 min, you have the full report.




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#8772037 - 08/25/16 09:03 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: porschetr]
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Free health care but you gotta day a day off work to wait to see a doctor wait for results and wait for another doctor cause first doctor didn't diagnose properly.sometimes I don't know if it's worth it to me.
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#8772086 - 08/25/16 09:56 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
...Its the same as those douche bags bitching about affordable housing in Toronto. Go live where you can afford, its what all of us on the board did.

The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money




You were doing great up to this point.

You want Toronto to be nothing but rich people? Then tell me where the guy earning minimum wage at the downtown McDonald's is going to live?

You have a twisted sense of society. It's a good thing you're nothing more than an armchair general and aren't the boss of anything!

You should just leave Canada and join the Plutocrats in the states. You'd fit right in.
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#8772147 - 08/25/16 10:49 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Just A Troll]
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No, I want to Toronto to be for people who can afford to live there, not subsidized by taxpayers so people can live in prime areas like the revitalized regent park. If you are working McD's as a career, commute from the bedroom communities like the rest of us who can't afford to live in Toronto.
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#8772189 - 08/25/16 11:05 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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guys, MedCan is a viable option....

also, community housing is not all it's cracked up to be. sure they're in Toronto, but they're in a 400 sq ft apartment with minimal to no amenities, not exactly the four seasons.

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#8772228 - 08/25/16 11:18 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: TheRealCSnapper]
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But that housing could be torn down to make way for more foreign-invested condos.
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#8772263 - 08/25/16 11:29 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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But that housing could be torn down to make way for more foreign-invested condos.


but i thought we're against that here...or is it just the chinks?

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#8772292 - 08/25/16 11:49 AM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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rest of us


lol @ claims of being like "the rest of us" TROLLOLOLOLOL

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#8772342 - 08/25/16 12:35 PM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: Risky Business]
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CSnapper:

Medcan is okay. It is $80/month (average cell phone with data plan) for the Wellness Plan, which is essentially a walk-in clinic with no wait. $3K for the annual A to Z exam. They were able to hook us up with an OB at Mt. Sinai and Sunnybrook, which would be super hard as we are Markham residents. Markham Hospital had the highest baby mortality rate so we wanted to avoid MSH.

I was referred to a new Dr. (stopped going to Medcan because they don't see patients under 5 and my son would use the Dr. more than us) that charges similar to Medcan. Not as fancy of an office but we like how it is 1 Dr. (with a backup) so that it's a family doctor that knows us instead of a walk-in doctor that reads the chart. Cost $7K (24/7 care and complete annual physicals) for the family but well worth it, I'd rather make sacrifices like skipping a vacation than deal with the "public" system now.

I love being able to call my Dr. at 4 am in the morning in a different City because I have a high fever with chills and don't know what I should do.

Medcan/Cleveland/Medisys/Independent is as private as we can get, and it will take care of 99% of your medical needs.




If you make $100K/year, your health care tax bill is probably $12K, which bought the wife and I the best insurance coverage from Blue Cross in the States with superior medical care (based on what we received in Cali).

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/de...ce-2015-rev.pdf

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#8772351 - 08/25/16 12:42 PM Re: Damn hospital, played the long wait game. [Re: xza8]
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