#8709260 - 06/28/16 04:45 PM
Re: Ballers: BMW m3
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What do you mean rebuilding your engine after every oil change isn't regular maintenance? /euphoric
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#8709360 - 06/28/16 06:26 PM
Re: Ballers: BMW m3
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sounds like bmw didn't really think through a high revving V8 enough.
Or the E46...
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#8709362 - 06/28/16 06:27 PM
Re: Ballers: BMW m3
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Wait so this isn't part of your daily lives?
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#8709376 - 06/28/16 06:41 PM
Re: Ballers: BMW m3
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For the last time boro. Mileage has nothing to do with RB wear. There have been cars with 5k and the bearings go lol. As I said instead of buying gay overpriced shit like adv's or hre one can do bearings instead.
There are plenty of high mileage M's around on original bearings. We're talking 100k to over 200k miles. So you're telling me it's like buying a lottery? XD that's too much excitement for me man. I will stick to my turd wagon XD
Like ims lottery? Still not understanding the issue? It's not like it just blows if one is actually paying attention to their car. There are tell tail signs like random ticks, oil temps are higher. For sure this is a fuck up by BMW and shouldn't be happening in a modern engine. Yet something so highly documented on the Internet and BMW dealers rarely ever encounter RB blowing an engine. The fact that Phoenix has never heard of this major issue being a common one really says something.
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#8709377 - 06/28/16 06:42 PM
Re: Ballers: BMW m3
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I'm the only here that has owned a 335d and M3 of the same generation. Completely different cars in all aspects. The 335d is extremely dull compared to the M3 and doesn't handle anywhere as good stock vs stock. Limits on the M are much higher.
I couldn't drive the M as a daily car. I shift at 4K in 1st most of the time to keep pace with traffic from a light. It revs stupid high doing 120. It really is b16 with 4 more cylinders lol. That said once it's in the power band it's amazingly smooth and wants to keep pulling all the way to 8400.
Kind of odd that a car based on the exact same platform can have as much driving difference as a go bus and a Ferrari.
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#8709411 - 06/28/16 07:09 PM
Re: Ballers: BMW m3
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Kind of odd that a car based on the exact same platform can have as much driving difference as a go bus and a Ferrari.
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#8709464 - 06/28/16 07:57 PM
Re: Ballers: BMW m3
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All due to lack of maintenance. Partially its BMW's fault for telling the owners that they can go 15-20k before an oil change... WTF.
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#8709510 - 06/28/16 08:41 PM
Re: Ballers: BMW m3
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You guys are fucking tards. 4age spreading an issue that is over blown  if one is so worried do a black stone report and if lead readings are high do the bearings for $3k instead of buying ricer parts. So doing a uoa for each oil change is m3 practice then? Sounds great  fwiw some of the motors in the thread have under 60k miles with scores on the bearings already. It's pretty scary dude. If one tracks this car or drives more than 3k per year (lol), it becomes a real concern--especially as mileage and age goes up. Not sure I am blowing anything out of proportion. No other car comes to memory with a similar flaw (other than the e46m). My 240z was on original bearings and the guy who bought my car did a rebuild. Bearings were spotless. Why can't the bmw take more than 28k miles before scoring the bearings (yes there is a car in the thread with scores bearings at this mileage)??? That's a lot of money to pay for a car with a design flaw imo. Also, no one on here mentioned the service life of the m rear differential. It's 80k miles. See your owners manual. It calls for replacement beyond that mileage. It simply no longer produces full lock and begins clunking during performance driving. None of this happens to a mustang XD
heh...heh
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#8709544 - 06/28/16 09:24 PM
Re: Ballers: BMW m3
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I'm the only here that has owned a 335d and M3 of the same generation. Completely different cars in all aspects. The 335d is extremely dull compared to the M3 and doesn't handle anywhere as good stock vs stock. Limits on the M are much higher.
I couldn't drive the M as a daily car. I shift at 4K in 1st most of the time to keep pace with traffic from a light. It revs stupid high doing 120. It really is b16 with 4 more cylinders lol. That said once it's in the power band it's amazingly smooth and wants to keep pulling all the way to 8400. Kind of odd that a car based on the exact same platform can have as much driving difference as a go bus and a Ferrari.
i don't think its bus vs ferrari drastic
a 335d is still a performance sedan that does 0-60 in 5 ish, more than enough to get you in trouble with YRP
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#8709557 - 06/28/16 09:55 PM
Re: Ballers: BMW m3
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I'm the only here that has owned a 335d and M3 of the same generation. Completely different cars in all aspects. The 335d is extremely dull compared to the M3 and doesn't handle anywhere as good stock vs stock. Limits on the M are much higher.
I couldn't drive the M as a daily car. I shift at 4K in 1st most of the time to keep pace with traffic from a light. It revs stupid high doing 120. It really is b16 with 4 more cylinders lol. That said once it's in the power band it's amazingly smooth and wants to keep pulling all the way to 8400. Kind of odd that a car based on the exact same platform can have as much driving difference as a go bus and a Ferrari. i don't think its bus vs ferrari drastic a 335d is still a performance sedan that does 0-60 in 5 ish, more than enough to get you in trouble with YRP
WTF are you blabbering about? A Corolla is enough to get one in trouble...
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#8709587 - 06/28/16 11:06 PM
Re: Ballers: BMW m3
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I'm the only here that has owned a 335d and M3 of the same generation. Completely different cars in all aspects. The 335d is extremely dull compared to the M3 and doesn't handle anywhere as good stock vs stock. Limits on the M are much higher.
I couldn't drive the M as a daily car. I shift at 4K in 1st most of the time to keep pace with traffic from a light. It revs stupid high doing 120. It really is b16 with 4 more cylinders lol. That said once it's in the power band it's amazingly smooth and wants to keep pulling all the way to 8400. Kind of odd that a car based on the exact same platform can have as much driving difference as a go bus and a Ferrari. i don't think its bus vs ferrari drastic a 335d is still a performance sedan that does 0-60 in 5 ish, more than enough to get you in trouble with YRP WTF are you blabbering about? A Corolla is enough to get one in trouble...
Are you saying that you make good use of the incremental performance of your M3 over the 335d? There's a point where it doesn't matter. I red line the first 2 gears in my little non AMG C450 and I'm already at 100 and way ahead of everyone and screaming to YRP to pull me over. Maybe I don't have the guts to continue and that is where the M/AMG equivalent shines. Racing to the next red gets boring after a while.
Euphoric doesn't know shit and just reads shit all day
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#8709710 - 06/29/16 08:02 AM
Re: Ballers: BMW m3
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back on topic :P
OP - Not sure which I6 you're comparing it to...butcompared to the e46 m3, the e90 is a much more refined, comfy ride. The e46 is more raw and is almost impossible to find an unmolested one.
The F8x m3 is a physically larger car. Almost felt like driving a previous gen 5 series. It's a better car in all measurable KPIs but I personally prefer NA engines.
As for the e36 m3, I'm not going to comment as this isn't a real M3 :P j/k.
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#8709754 - 06/29/16 08:59 AM
Re: Ballers: BMW m3
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Kind of odd that a car based on the exact same platform can have as much driving difference as a go bus and a Ferrari.
you can't be serious Yes I am, couldn't help but roll my eyes when Hatorade said they are "completely" different cars. A modded GSR is COMPLETELY different from an ITR A modded E36 328 is COMPLETELY different from an E36 M3 A modded 335d is COMPLETELY different from an e90 M3 Am i doing it right? 
Hold on, a modified GSR != ITR. It does not have seam welded chassis.
And yes, you can feel it. And no, not on the street (legally XD).
An M3 though - everything on an M3 can be bolted onto a standard 3 series.
The part that is truly bespoke for the M3 is the drivetrain. Though whether one accepts the flaw(s) in the E9x M3 drivetrain or not is up one's self to decide XD
For a street only car, I'd argue a 335IS has more useable power, and can be just as fun. You can buy M3 suspension bits on the cheap if you want to make it feeelz like an M3. Front arms, shocks/springs, rear subframe bushings...and it's much more rare to boot.
Though if one truly appreciates the M for what it is, I cannot argue against emotions or whatever. You just gotta accept the car for what it is (like Hator undoubtedly has). Nothing wrong with that. But know that the rod bearings and rear diff issue is FACT.
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#8709771 - 06/29/16 09:18 AM
Re: Ballers: BMW m3
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Hold on, a modified GSR != ITR. It does not have seam welded chassis.
And yes, you can feel it. And no, not on the street (legally XD).
Do quote where I said GSR = ITR...that reading comprehension.
Is everyone high today?
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#8709783 - 06/29/16 09:23 AM
Re: Ballers: BMW m3
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4age
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Hold on, a modified GSR != ITR. It does not have seam welded chassis.
And yes, you can feel it. And no, not on the street (legally XD).
Do quote where I said GSR = ITR...that reading comprehension. Is everyone high today?
Yes, everyone is high.
One person vehemently defends the E9x M3 flaws.
Another person still considers buying one.
Another person compares 335D to M3.
Another person calls E36 M a fake M. Dafuq. That's like saying the ITR is a fake ITR, 'cause the compression ratio is different, and we also get different front ends. Fake integra.
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