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#8708322 - 06/27/16 09:47 PM Ballers: BMW m3
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Inline 6
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V8

i'm looking for a used. I'm loving the V8 m3 styling, but is Mpower $$$$$ to repair?
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#8708342 - 06/27/16 10:04 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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If it wasn't for the reliability issues of the v8 I would totally be rocking an e90 m3 as a daily.

Inline 6 m3s are as reliable as your run of the mill civic, some parts need more attention (cooling) but other than that plenty of examples of people going 400k+ on those stock motors. Stick to e46 if you want reliable.
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#8708351 - 06/27/16 10:09 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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Only thing that I've seen "common" with the V8 are the throttle actuators. Nothing else mechanically that isn't "common with the regular 3 series. That said, if you are only concerned about reliability, then yes, the E46 is slightly more reliable.

I will say though, the M's don't seem to be prone to leaky gaskets as much as the non-Ms.
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#8708428 - 06/27/16 11:11 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: phoenixrage]
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rod bearings are a problem for both e46 and e9x.


I would test drive both and go from there. The e9x is more of a gt cruiser compared to the more rough e46m3(imo. the e46 will also have more of an old school feel by comparison). You may prefer one style over the other.

the v8 gets abysmal mpg too.
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#8708502 - 06/28/16 07:23 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Probably explains why Hatorade doesn't drive his
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#8708510 - 06/28/16 07:37 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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the v8 gets abysmal mpg too.


Yea, this was my other big concern with it. Makes for a terrible daily with F150 mpg on premium too \:\(

335d would make more sense, but the 4 door m3 looks sooooooooooooooooooo good.

GimpCivic daily drives one, I wonder how it's holding up.



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#8708535 - 06/28/16 08:06 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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#8708552 - 06/28/16 08:29 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Are all e9X the same?

There is a 2010 M3 in london ontario.
Ok, nevermind, I think it's been sold. It was a white e9x, Coupe, Manual, Navi. pretty much loaded for $37k. 7x,xxx'KM

Do you guys trust the pre-owned straight from the dealership? How about those kijiji used car dealerships?

I love the 4door and coupe.
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#8708555 - 06/28/16 08:31 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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Love mine. I average 13l/100kms. Not crazy bad considering I use to get 12.6l/100kms on the G35.
But if you drive pure city it is a going to hit 14.5l/100 easy lol

I have had zero issues with so far, car had a clean history with no warranty work done at all. Main problems with this car is throttle actuators and rod bearings. Most people are doing RB as preventive maintenance, and cost wise is around $3k or the cost of a set of wheels lol. Forgot to mention AC evap is known to leak and the wonderful engineers decided to put this behind the dash where it is inaccessible and requires the dash to come out.
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#8708577 - 06/28/16 08:45 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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 Originally Posted By: OracerO
Are all e9X the same?

There is a 2010 M3 in london ontario.
Ok, nevermind, I think it's been sold. It was a white e9x, Coupe, Manual, Navi. pretty much loaded for $37k. 7x,xxx'KM

Do you guys trust the pre-owned straight from the dealership? How about those kijiji used car dealerships?

I love the 4door and coupe.


2009+ is lci. Taillights got a refresh and nav was updated along with some interior changes. IMO I wouldn't touch one of these without a full service history. Oil changes are crucial for the RB health along with diff fluid changes.
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#8708768 - 06/28/16 10:37 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Hatorade]
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 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
Love mine. I average 13l/100kms. Not crazy bad considering I use to get 12.6l/100kms on the G35.
But if you drive pure city it is a going to hit 14.5l/100 easy lol

I have had zero issues with so far, car had a clean history with no warranty work done at all. Main problems with this car is throttle actuators and rod bearings. Most people are doing RB as preventive maintenance, and cost wise is around $3k or the cost of a set of wheels lol. Forgot to mention AC evap is known to leak and the wonderful engineers decided to put this behind the dash where it is inaccessible and requires the dash to come out.


What did you have again?

I wouldn't mind a E46, I'm just hung on something a bit newer. I don't mind exploring a 335 for an inline 6 motor. This i can probably make it a daily, 4 door, xDrive (yay or nay?).

Edited by OracerO (06/28/16 10:37 AM)
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#8708840 - 06/28/16 11:36 AM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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Flashed 335 is quicker than the v8. \:o


Go drive some. Do you want an ///m car or not ?
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#8708908 - 06/28/16 12:26 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Whats the hype with BMWs other than drives nicely
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#8708925 - 06/28/16 12:34 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: xza8]
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Whats the hype with BMWs other than drives nicely


What cars in the e90 m3 price range should we care about?
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#8708947 - 06/28/16 12:46 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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S4/S5 and C63

Its all preference at this point but I find the BMWs too stiff
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#8708973 - 06/28/16 01:05 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: xza8]
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C63 doesn't have a manual option so you throw that one out for a lot of people.
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#8709049 - 06/28/16 02:04 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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shouldnt gas mileage be no concern if you are buying such an amazing machine?

and how are parts (cost/availability) for these vehicles? pay to play no?

if you gonna buy one of these types of cars, shouldn't you be ballin enough to maintain/fix it?
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#8709054 - 06/28/16 02:13 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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get whatever is in this one

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#8709059 - 06/28/16 02:16 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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shouldnt gas mileage be no concern if you are buying such an amazing machine?

and how are parts (cost/availability) for these vehicles? pay to play no?

if you gonna buy one of these types of cars, shouldn't you be ballin enough to maintain/fix it?


some of us poors try to enjoy the finer things in life on a budget

my issue is that cheaper alternatives to the m3 with comparable performance are available (335d)...your gas bill is effectively half...can't ignore that (I can't anyway). If there weren't alternatives then it's a moot point.

But on the contrary a stock looking e90 body 335d does nothing for me so I will continue to poor away with a non bmw.
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#8709076 - 06/28/16 02:27 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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Comparible performance ?
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#8709083 - 06/28/16 02:30 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoricuck
Comparible performance ?


lol, yeah this!

(minus the third-grade spelling)
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#8709085 - 06/28/16 02:33 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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#8709102 - 06/28/16 02:50 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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 Originally Posted By: eddie_82
 Originally Posted By: Euphoricuck
Comparible performance ?


lol, yeah this!

(minus the third-grade spelling)


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#8709130 - 06/28/16 03:17 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Read this thread and please tell me if you still want an E9x M3 \:D
The thread contains photos of rod bearings in various state, as owners preemptively crack the motors open to replace them.

THEY ARE BAD.
I shat bricks.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1253084

I considered m3 a few years ago. I cross shopped it against the boss mustang.
I went boss. no regrets. would do again XD why not buy a boss? yup.
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#8709136 - 06/28/16 03:19 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoricuck
Comparible performance ?


oh look who it is, the guy that wants to split hairs over two very capable cars compiribilie on the street.

On paper a lightly modded 335d will not be that far off from the m3. I suppose feels are different, don't know, don't care.
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#8709156 - 06/28/16 03:28 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Risky Business]
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holy shit lolololol must have sounded like a tractor

Edited by titty sprinkles (06/28/16 03:28 PM)
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#8709206 - 06/28/16 03:58 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: titty sprinkles]
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I already mentioned it. But if you plan for that as being maintenance (same for the s54 in the e46 m3 )....it's not so bad
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#8709221 - 06/28/16 04:11 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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lol @ rod bearings being "maintenance"

imo, that job should require new bearings, micropolishing the crank, rod bolts, main bolts, new main bearings, all new gaskets.....yep sounds like maintenance to me.

Edited by titty sprinkles (06/28/16 04:14 PM)
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#8709229 - 06/28/16 04:18 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: OracerO]
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Wow...the e90 Risky posted looks nice.

I bought my 2010 e90 M3 DCT as a CPO about 3 years ago and at that point it had about 29k kms. I currently have ~56k kms on it now and in that time I had to do the following:

-replace OEM battery $300+
-replace 2x throttle actuators (covered under CPO...but would have been thousands from what I've heard)
-oil changes every 7k-10k kms ($180 each)
-waiting for takata air bags from the recall;

Other than that the car has been reliable and an exceptionally good daily driver. If I intend to keep the car I will look into additional warranty coverage as the rod bearing thing has me a bit worried. Remember, even though you're paying $30-$50k for a used M3 you will be paying for repairs and parts for a car worth $80-90k.

Hatorade and Euphoric are right about the fuel economy. I get on average 12.5L/100km and that's 90% hwy. I think it's about a 60-65L tank and I get about 400kms on a tank.
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#8709238 - 06/28/16 04:28 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: titty sprinkles]
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Ya it's a maintenance item. So what .


It's just the rod bearings. No need to pull the crank unless you have to.
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#8709240 - 06/28/16 04:30 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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I've never heard of rod bearings being basic maintenance and a normal thing.
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#8709243 - 06/28/16 04:31 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: JEFFOS]
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It is for the s54 and s65 engines.
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#8709244 - 06/28/16 04:34 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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lol just rod bearings. just.

granted the crank is forged steel but you have to remember what abnormal/excess heat can do to a bearing/crank surface.

where you get your engineering degree? walmart have a sale?

then after another 50k:



ruh oh

Edited by titty sprinkles (06/28/16 04:38 PM)
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#8709253 - 06/28/16 04:42 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: titty sprinkles]
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Yup lol. Would not go near it. Buy an e36 m3 /euphoric/vas/4age
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#8709256 - 06/28/16 04:43 PM Re: Ballers: BMW m3 [Re: 4age]
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U know what, with those engine "maintenance" items, may as well be a rotary. Please buy fd rx7. Kthnxbye
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