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#8543792 - 02/04/16 05:22 PM Car thief gets shot
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And owner gets charged.
http://www.thespec.com/news-story/626315...-degree-murder/

Happened about 5 minutes away from my place.

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#8543805 - 02/04/16 05:29 PM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: The Postman]
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Ya you can't shoot people here. And we are better for it.
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#8543891 - 02/04/16 06:19 PM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: Euphoricuck]
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What? Troll attempt? We are better for it?
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#8543896 - 02/04/16 06:24 PM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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for society overall. youre fucking right we are better off. especially over car theft.
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#8543908 - 02/04/16 06:39 PM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: Euphoricuck]
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you voted for horseface didn't you?
/Criminals have more rights than the victims. I guess the Canadian thing to do would have been to offer him the keys to make his life easier.....

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#8543947 - 02/04/16 07:05 PM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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kinda agree with eugayic on this one. it's just a busted ass old truck, that's why we have insurance, it's not like the guy's life was in danger or something.
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#8544020 - 02/04/16 08:17 PM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
you voted for horseface didn't you?
/Criminals have more rights than the victims. I guess the Canadian thing to do would have been to offer him the keys to make his life easier.....


Be careful man what you wish for. With your anti-police crap and being black, you'd been shot by now if you took a wrong turn out of LAX!

I didn't vote for Horseface, and I hate her, but I also agree: We're better for it!
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#8544244 - 02/05/16 04:29 AM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: Just A Troll]
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This is no case of mistaken identity, and the full story isn't known. None of us have any idea how the theif reacted when he got caught. I am sure this will be a case where the defence will argue it was self defence.

So none of you believe that people have a right to use force (deadly force) if required to protect your property/self?

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#8544281 - 02/05/16 07:38 AM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Deadly force is available as a LAST RESORT and only if your life is in immediate danger.

If someone is actually in your house, with intent to commit a crime, with a weapon, you have the right to defend yourself up to and including deadly force.

If someone is breaking into your car, then no, you cannot kill them.

Force must be reasonable and proportionate to the circumstance.

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#8544292 - 02/05/16 07:48 AM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: spd-dmn]
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 Originally Posted By: spd-dmn
Deadly force is available as a LAST RESORT and only if your life is in immediate danger.

If someone is actually in your house, with intent to commit a crime, with a weapon, you have the right to defend yourself up to and including deadly force.

If someone is breaking into your car, then no, you cannot kill them.

Force must be reasonable and proportionate to the circumstance.


+1
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#8544293 - 02/05/16 07:48 AM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: spd-dmn]
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Agreed, but we don't know the story of what happened.
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#8544303 - 02/05/16 07:55 AM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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It's true, we don't. And I actually feel bad for the homeowner.

On the one hand, there's no mercy for thieves.

On the other hand, though, we cannot live in a society where a first reaction to any transgression is firing a gun.

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#8544313 - 02/05/16 08:12 AM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: spd-dmn]
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 Originally Posted By: spd-dmn


On the other hand, though, we cannot live in a society where a first reaction to any transgression is firing a gun.


this 100%

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#8544423 - 02/05/16 09:29 AM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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 Originally Posted By: Screamin DC2R
 Originally Posted By: spd-dmn
Deadly force is available as a LAST RESORT and only if your life is in immediate danger.

If someone is actually in your house, with intent to commit a crime, with a weapon, you have the right to defend yourself up to and including deadly force.

If someone is breaking into your car, then no, you cannot kill them.

Force must be reasonable and proportionate to the circumstance.


+1


I was just about to post something along those lines.

So ... +1
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#8544425 - 02/05/16 09:31 AM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck

So none of you believe that people have a right to use force (deadly force) if required to protect your property/self?


You really ought to move to the states. You'll be rid of Wynne and you can buy guns and shoot people trying to steal your kids' bike.

And if you're in Florida, you can shoot black people and get away with it. Oh wait... wrong guy.
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#8544500 - 02/05/16 09:55 AM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: Just A Troll]
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Protection of self or family I have no issues with. I could not live with myself if I took a life over the theft of a car, bike....whatever.
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#8544518 - 02/05/16 10:01 AM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
for society overall. youre fucking right we are better off. especially over car theft.


what do you propose for a solution for our own safety and well being?
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#8544522 - 02/05/16 10:02 AM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: Big Tasty]
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 Originally Posted By: Big Tasty
Protection of self or family I have no issues with. I could not live with myself if I took a life over the theft of a car, bike....whatever.
Where do you live? I'ma come and steal your bike since I know there are no repercussions.

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#8544546 - 02/05/16 10:11 AM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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I didn't say I wouldn't cripple your ass , I just won't kill you.
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#8544738 - 02/05/16 11:38 AM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: spd-dmn]
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 Originally Posted By: spd-dmn
Deadly force is available as a LAST RESORT and only if your life is in immediate danger.

If someone is actually in your house, with intent to commit a crime, with a weapon, you have the right to defend yourself up to and including deadly force.

If someone is breaking into your car, then no, you cannot kill them.

Force must be reasonable and proportionate to the circumstance.


Agreed with this guy
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#8544747 - 02/05/16 11:42 AM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: spd-dmn]
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 Originally Posted By: spd-dmn
Deadly force is available as a LAST RESORT and only if your life is in immediate danger.

If someone is actually in your house, with intent to commit a crime, with a weapon, you have the right to defend yourself up to and including deadly force.

If someone is breaking into your car, then no, you cannot kill them.

Force must be reasonable and proportionate to the circumstance.
expanding on my initial thought. Agreed
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#8545089 - 02/05/16 02:05 PM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Im a gun owner, but would I shoot someone stealing my car? Nope. Come into my house and threaten me and my family, things might be different. Who knows, maybe the dead guy had a knife or something. Many natives do carry them. There was a guy killed on my moms street a few years back after he caught 2 guys breaking into cars. Cops found him with screwdriver stuck in his neck.

I drive by the house everyday where this happened and the cops have dug up much of the driveway and part of the lawn too.

Around Hamilton and this area, if your truck gets stolen, 99% of the time it will be gone to Ohsweken lol.

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#8545252 - 02/05/16 03:24 PM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: The Postman]
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this happened already. remember the chinAr store owner that tied a thief up and locked him in his van? then got charged with kidnapping or some shit.
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#8545268 - 02/05/16 03:29 PM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: titty sprinkles]
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didnt the prime minister come out in support for him and those charges got dropped?
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#8545446 - 02/05/16 06:15 PM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: Euphoricuck]
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BDgcc5Sif3k
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#8545449 - 02/05/16 06:23 PM Re: Car thief gets shot [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
 Originally Posted By: Big Tasty
Protection of self or family I have no issues with. I could not live with myself if I took a life over the theft of a car, bike....whatever.
Where do you live? I'ma come and steal your bike since I know there are no repercussions.


Come to my place and try to steal my MTB and I'll introduce you to something I carry when I'm back country biking:

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