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#8545109 - 02/05/16 02:13 PM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: ru4real]
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I think multiple convictions/sentences are served concurrently here in Canada, so he would still do a minimal amount of time compared to rotting in jail forever for multiple sentences.

In reality, will this guy losing his licenece, job, some years in jail really effect him like a normal person anyway? Nope. He'd grow old sitting around the house on the familys money. This happened to any of us normal people, we would be fucked after we got out. Hell, Id lose my job if I even had my licenece taken away, nevermind going to jail.
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#8545147 - 02/05/16 02:29 PM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: The Postman]
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rotting in jail or rotting at home. whats the difference?
On the families dime...even better. This will financially cost them forever if hes at home. Not so much if hes in jail. Then that burden would be shifted to us.

If this kid has any normalcy about him(and he probably does) his brain will be locked up forever with this regardless of where his physical body loafs around.

After prison time, can't get a job, can't drive, potential mental issues to deal with, limited travel options(countries wont typical let you into their country with that kind of record)... will he really be "Free"?
Being out and around people who can live a normal life but you can't. Id almost say thats worse than being removed from the situation where you don't have to see it or think about it. Potentially a worse form of mental torture?
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#8545287 - 02/05/16 03:48 PM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
rotting in jail or rotting at home. whats the difference?
On the families dime...even better. This will financially cost them forever if hes at home. Not so much if hes in jail. Then that burden would be shifted to us.

If this kid has any normalcy about him(and he probably does) his brain will be locked up forever with this regardless of where his physical body loafs around.

After prison time, can't get a job, can't drive, potential mental issues to deal with, limited travel options(countries wont typical let you into their country with that kind of record)... will he really be "Free"?
Being out and around people who can live a normal life but you can't. Id almost say thats worse than being removed from the situation where you don't have to see it or think about it. Potentially a worse form of mental torture?
Sorry to be rude with this response, but fuck right off. $1.8 billion will go a long way to ensuring he lives a "normal" (normal for him anyway) life once he gets out of prison.
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#8545288 - 02/05/16 03:49 PM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: ru4real]
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I think the only way he could redeem himself in my eyes is if/when he gets out of prison he dedicates his life and what fortune he has access to to combating drunk driving and supporting the families of victims.
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#8545294 - 02/05/16 03:58 PM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: ru4real]
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#8545315 - 02/05/16 04:16 PM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: ru4real]
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youre not putting any thought into this. What kind of "normal" life can you live when you are limited to where and what you can do? (on top of dealing with the fact you wiped out most of a family).
1.8 bil means nothing if youre stuck to your home or same place week after week while likely being depressed over what you did.
At least they will pay to house and feed him.
Watching my father rot away with ALS(at home), and being laid off for an extended period of time sure changed my view on life and what "living" actually means.


Again, that doesnt mean he shouldnt get jail time. He will, and I agree with that. But when its not a 350 year sentence. I wont cry. Probably 5 year(with a max of 10 but not likely to see that imo). I would be blown away if it was 20 yrs+.
And moving beyond that, he is likely going to be battling with this mentally forever. Likely to his detriment. Probably come to find he OD's later in life.

Prison isnt a country club, but it sure isnt anything like the movies portray. So after spending some time in prison would it be beneficial to keep him there forever? or send him packing with restrictions on how he can " live" moving forward and give him some chance at receiving rehabilitation/education/a chance to share his story and educate others?
What he did sucks beyond what most of us could understand, but the guy isnt a serial killer or terrorist.

It costs like 100k+ a yr to have 1 adult in jail.
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#8545400 - 02/05/16 05:25 PM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Euphoricuck]
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we should get him to sign up here
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#8545452 - 02/05/16 06:30 PM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Euphoricuck]
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The best we can hope for is that Bubba will make him his bitch on day one.
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#8545629 - 02/05/16 09:01 PM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Just A Troll]
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I honestly feel this guy should just end his life for the sake of everyone. A few good points mentioned, he will never be the same, more jail time won't do shit for him, but he will still exist within us regardless.

Drinking and driving will never go away regardless of penalties simply for the fact that when you make the decision to drive you are already intoxicated and cannot reason as you would when you were sober, sure we can argue you should've figured it out before you got drunk, but i am not one to dig deep down the rabbit hole for stupidity. We need a new strategy to deal with this shit because any drunk coming out of a bar/club/friend house/private jet will not be thinking about drunk driving or its consequences because you are already fucked up. We need a different approach that's more proactive than reactive to stop this.
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#8545684 - 02/05/16 09:48 PM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Riskhe Business]
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This guy is a victim of circumstance, while I don't think drinking and driving should lead to death...the way things happened this guy still killed 4 people (worst part being 3 were children) he doesn't deserve to live another day imo.

It wasn't premeditated it was careless and many of us have been careless but the outcome of his actions really should be the end of his life regardless. I don't see how you give peace to the family that's holding the short end of this stick. Sure he will be miserable forever, a bit of jail time and some house arrest, but given the grief he has caused I hope for the victim's family this guy gets taken away (death - how he is dead is irrelevant as long as he is dead). Maybe I am old fashioned, but that little bit of peace ti gives the parents will be well worth it over the long haul.
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#8545753 - 02/05/16 11:21 PM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Riskhe Business]
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Great points. Better than Facebook esque commentary
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#8604336 - 03/29/16 10:18 AM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Sentenced to 10 years in prison.

Also banned for driving for 12 years once he gets out.
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#8604354 - 03/29/16 10:32 AM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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Was watching cp24 yesterday.
They were at 8 yrs. Crown at 12.
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#8604364 - 03/29/16 10:39 AM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Euphoricuck]
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We need to put $$$ on if the fiancé will be around after he gets out.
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#8604372 - 03/29/16 10:45 AM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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I imagine she'll be around... a stripper pole.
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#8604391 - 03/29/16 11:07 AM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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Probably worth it for her to stick around...and also have a Tinder account for those cold winters nights.
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#8604427 - 03/29/16 11:28 AM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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 Originally Posted By: eddie_82
Sentenced to 10 years in prison.

Also banned for driving for 12 years once he gets out.


I wonder how much time he will actually serve.
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#8604434 - 03/29/16 11:40 AM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Riskhe Business]
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Was he serving any time now that he would get double credit for?
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#8604438 - 03/29/16 11:44 AM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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He'd likely get paroled after 3 years in prison.

from the star:

Muzzo has spent most of the time since the crash in custody, although he was granted bail for about three weeks following his Feb. 4 guilty plea.

With credit for time already served, Muzzo’s sentence will amount to nine years and four months.

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2016/03/29/marco-muzzo-sentencing.html
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#8604542 - 03/29/16 12:50 PM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: c2k]
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Will he be in PC his entire sentence? I'm sure he'll get murdered at some point. Well I hope anyways...
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#8604608 - 03/29/16 01:27 PM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Just A Troll]
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As I said before:

 Originally Posted By: Just A Troll
The best we can hope for is that Bubba will make him his bitch on day one.


After a year of that, he'll probably want to hang himself.
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#8605081 - 03/29/16 07:54 PM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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We need to put $$$ on if the fiancé will be around after he gets out.


Getting married into a family worth billions which she'll become an heiress to that mountain of gold? 10 years' wait is worth it.

What other job can you pull to get that much $ in 10 years?
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#8605082 - 03/29/16 07:54 PM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Just A Troll]
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 Originally Posted By: Just A Troll
As I said before:

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The best we can hope for is that Bubba will make him his bitch on day one.


After a year of that, he'll probably want to hang himself.


Probably spend 3 years or less.

There will be no bubba, with the amount of money this guy has, he will probably get sent to a white collar prison. And i'm sure he can buy his way out of Bubba's rage.
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#8605126 - 03/29/16 08:19 PM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: OracerO]
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people keep throwing this money thing around like that was what his sentencing was based on, and not on previous case law.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3REIGAl0Gdo
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#8605152 - 03/29/16 08:40 PM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Euphoricuck]
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#8605187 - 03/29/16 09:05 PM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: LNXGUY]
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http://globalnews.ca/news/2537289/marco-...rison-sentence/
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#8605375 - 03/30/16 07:30 AM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: OracerO]
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 Originally Posted By: OracerO
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As I said before:

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The best we can hope for is that Bubba will make him his bitch on day one.


After a year of that, he'll probably want to hang himself.


There will be no bubba, with the amount of money this guy has, he will probably get sent to a white collar prison. And i'm sure he can buy his way out of Bubba's rage.


FUCK!
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#8605380 - 03/30/16 07:39 AM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Just A Troll]
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Wtf is a white collar prison?
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#8605382 - 03/30/16 07:40 AM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Riskhe Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
Wtf is a white collar prison?


forced to be on CSI everyday in an office environment....oh wait....
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#8605385 - 03/30/16 07:42 AM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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#8605387 - 03/30/16 07:44 AM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Riskhe Business]
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in other news, Gomeshi's lawyer would get it....
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#8605388 - 03/30/16 07:48 AM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
http://globalnews.ca/news/2537289/marco-muzzo-why-a-similar-case-attracted-an-8-year-prison-sentence/

Great article. Ive never heard of a few of those.

There was this case too
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/4-years-for-drunk-driver-in-pie-ladies-deaths-1.850534
and the driver out of jail already.
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#8605391 - 03/30/16 07:52 AM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Riskhe Business]
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Wtf is a white collar prison?

Beavercreek in Gravenhurst. Lots of impaired drivers, dealers, theives, etc.
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#8605468 - 03/30/16 09:45 AM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Riskhe Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
Wtf is a white collar prison?


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#8605726 - 03/30/16 11:10 AM Re: Rich drunk dude actually pleasd guilty [Re: Just A Troll]
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An in-depth opinion piece here:
http://racingnorth.ca/2016/03/29/in-marco-muzzo-sentencing-canadas-legal-system-failed-all-of-us/
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