#6898107 - 02/14/13 11:20 AM
Re: What methods are you using to hydrate during long runs?
[Re: Ampsman in Extremis]
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dirtyS13drifta
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Shorter than an hour, I just hydrate before hand & after
Lately my longer runs have been urban, so I just bring a Credit Card for a gatorade at 50-ish minutes.
That said in the past, I've got a Nathan belt that holds 2 10oz bottles. i normally do one of gatorade and one of water, plus some shotblox.
Once I break 2 hours again, I'll probably goto a bladder system. I've been eye-balling the the OSprey active packs, as they allow me to bring some first-aid and a insulating jacket. I'm thinking of adding some "deep" runs this season, so my needs will be more like a mini-hike.
I could see even bringing my UV Steri-pen in the summer as I'd like to do 30 miles in the high-country.
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#6898343 - 02/14/13 12:49 PM
Re: What methods are you using to hydrate during long runs?
[Re: skenn8ht]
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2000SiRacer
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I had a lot of initial reluctance about running with a handheld bottle too. I spent months running routes that looped me back by drinking fountains or simply dehydrating myself (once I got caught in a pinch and stole some water from a hose in a kindergarten playground; this was with my homeless beard too so not sketchy at all haha). In the end a friend gave me an old Nathan bottle and it wasn't that bad after all.
Adjustable hand strap so you're not actually gripping anything and room for 2-3 gels. I used one of these exclusively until I needed more carrying capacity.
When that time came I did a ton of research and wound up springing for the Salomon Advanced Skin S-Lab 5 (I had to use google to get the whole name haha what a mouthful) pack because reviews said the fit and and stability (i.e. no bouncing or sliding) was second to none. It was more expensive than comparable Camelbacks but having seen those in action I think I made the right decision for me.
I've since worked out a setup that works for me with 1.5L of water in the bladder and one or two little 8oz bottles in the front pockets for sports drink. Room in the pockets for gels, S caps, wind jackets, etc with straps for hiking poles and its own emergency blanket and whistle (yay!). On hikes that little pouch velcroed to the front is the perfect size for my cell phone so I can snap photos.
I've found in races that I may be able to get between aid stations easily with a handheld bottle, or even nothing at all, but having a pack drastically reduces my time spent in aid stations. I'll run in, pound a couple glasses of water and grab a few gels if I'm low and stuff them in my pocket. Then grab some real food for the road and I'm out. Since I'm drinking at stations and just sipping on that 1.5L of water I only had to refill the bladder once during my last race, and even that only takes marginally longer than refilling a water bottle. And I forget I'm even wearing it most of the time so it's really not annoying or distracting at all (my main concern)!
The new Ultimate Direction Signature series packs have been getting a lot of good reviews recently too. I don't know much about them as they weren't out when I was looking for a pack, but it may be something to consider!
http://www.ultimatedirection.com/c-signature-series.aspx
I don't think they use a bladder and hose though, these are more minimalist storage packs with room for a pair of 20oz bottles up front, so something to consider.
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#6898600 - 02/14/13 02:42 PM
Re: What methods are you using to hydrate during long runs?
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Cheesegoggles
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I have a small handheld bottle similar to the one posted above that I take with me on occasion, depending on how long I'm running and how hot it is. If I'm doing long runs where I circle the park I live near, I just stash what I need in my car and park near the trail.
When the weather is nice I'm frequently pushing a stroller, so I have that option for stashing stuff as well 
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#6898675 - 02/14/13 03:14 PM
Re: What methods are you using to hydrate during long runs?
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MonkeyStillAlive
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I don't know how you guys can go 6 or miles without water. Do you hit fountains? I have to carry a bottle for anything 5 or over. I use a nathan hand held bottle similar to what 2000siracer posted.
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#6898779 - 02/14/13 04:11 PM
Re: What methods are you using to hydrate during long runs?
[Re: MonkeyStillAlive]
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dirtyS13drifta
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I don't know how you guys can go 6 or miles without water. Do you hit fountains? I have to carry a bottle for anything 5 or over. I use a nathan hand held bottle similar to what 2000siracer posted.
It really depends on a billion variables.
For some of the guys, 6 miles is a warm-up. Pacing makes a huge difference, ambient humidity, heat, natural cooling factor. Shit tall people tend to have more surface area for a given height, leading to better cooling.
I'm a heavy sweater, not in the best shape. But I can manage 6 miles without water. But I'm definitely starting slightly over-hydrated and finishing slightly dehydrated. Now if I'm only doing 6, I can rock that. If that 6 is part of a 10, I'm obviously going to be hurting. It helps it's winter(cold), but the dryness can be a factor(even if you don't sweat you can lose a ton of water via breath).
Mrmom's 14 without hydration is pretty crazy to me.
Edited by dirtyS13drifta (02/14/13 04:18 PM)
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#6910301 - 02/20/13 06:30 PM
Re: What methods are you using to hydrate during long runs?
[Re: skenn8ht]
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2000SiRacer
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#8529296 - 01/25/16 12:11 AM
Re: What methods are you using to hydrate during long runs?
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gamby
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I sweat quite a bit, but for anything less than 90 minutes or so, I just don't feel the need to drink. I race my half marathons with no water or nutrition.
Everybody is different though.
That's still strange to me, as pretty much everything in the cycling world says "drink an entire bottle every hour". When it's hot out, on the bike, I kill a bottle an hour easily. 90 minutes seems unhealthy.
Not as much of an issue in a cold 40 minute cyclocross race, tho.
For a hot run, I need water after 1/2 hour 
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#8529987 - 01/25/16 02:19 PM
Re: What methods are you using to hydrate during long runs?
[Re: gamby]
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dirtyS13drifta
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THis is old as shit, but I think there's 2 ways to look at it.
no water for 90 would put you at a deficit, but if you're only running/cycling 90, you can make it work if you're pretty much ONLY doing that time.
No water in the first 60 minutes of a multi-hour effort will crush you though. You most likely will be unable to recover from 1 hour with no hydration.
of course YMMW.
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#8530153 - 01/25/16 03:55 PM
Re: What methods are you using to hydrate during long runs?
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gamby
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THis is old as shit, but I think there's 2 ways to look at it.
no water for 90 would put you at a deficit, but if you're only running/cycling 90, you can make it work if you're pretty much ONLY doing that time.
No water in the first 60 minutes of a multi-hour effort will crush you though. You most likely will be unable to recover from 1 hour with no hydration.
of course YMMW.
It's perfectly logical tho. Well-stated.
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