#8116409 - 03/04/15 12:26 PM
Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas? (updated w/ layout)
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Risky Business
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Inspired by GimpCivic's post, i have 4 options with our kitchen that I am trying to decide on. It's a galley kitchen, with three doorsways, top side is to go into backyard, bottom is to hallway, to the right is for living room.
We considered knocking out walls and going open concept, but ultimately decided against it and want to keep the kitchen as a contained room.
Because of all the door openings and it being a galley kitchen, it's pretty hard to make effective use of it. Based on the concepts below what would you pick and why?
We were split between B and D, and are pretty much set on going with D at this point.
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#8116438 - 03/04/15 12:45 PM
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out of the 4 I'd pick A. I do most of the cooking at home and I have to have the Fridge, Sink and Stove close by. Your other 3 options has at least 1 of the 3 at the other end of the kitchen making food prep and cooking a PIA.
We have a galley and would like it to be open concept as every time we host, the kitchen is the place where everyone congregates. Galley's aren't meant for that.
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#8116439 - 03/04/15 12:46 PM
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D looks good. The main challenge will be that your stove is far away from both your sink and your fridge. If you cook a lot, that might be a pian. Otherwise, I think it makes good use of your space.
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#8116472 - 03/04/15 01:15 PM
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A for the same reasons as Gimp
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#8116503 - 03/04/15 01:37 PM
Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?!
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out of the 4 I'd pick A. I do most of the cooking at home and I have to have the Fridge, Sink and Stove close by. Your other 3 options has at least 1 of the 3 at the other end of the kitchen making food prep and cooking a PIA.
We have a galley and would like it to be open concept as every time we host, the kitchen is the place where everyone congregates. Galley's aren't meant for that.
I agree on both points. A was our initial thought and that’s how the kitchen is right now, except stove is where fridge is. The problem is that with the stove placement in A, you have two very small countertops on the side of the stove, both will be 18”. I wouldn’t mind putting the stove at the edge of the doorway and then have a 36” counter between fridge and stove, but you can’t have the stove with open side at a doorway like that (safety). I could put it in the other corner (where fridge is), which is the current setup, but we find the fridge at the doorway makes the kitchen feel super cramped.
I agree that for hosting, open concept is the way to go. If we really quantify it though, we host on average 1-2 times every 30 days during a regular month, more during holidays. Let’s say 20 days out of 365, for those 20 days we don’t feel it’s worth it. The other pro is when you have kids at a certain age, whoever is cooking can keep an eye out on the kids (more of a moot point imo, but a point regardless). Our issue with open concept that kitchen clutter spills over into a living room, and for day to day use where a kitchen is in use, we prefer it to be its own separate space. Our thought process is messy kitchen spilling over into living room for 340 days out of the year, or 20 days of being able to provide optimum entertainment.
D looks good. The main challenge will be that your stove is far away from both your sink and your fridge. If you cook a lot, that might be a pian. Otherwise, I think it makes good use of your space.
I agree 100% and that’s why I am still skeptical. The other issue is that we can only put a small table there (close to stove) and it will be in the way. In terms of distance it’s about 10’ away from the sink. We chose the stove to go there because it will be the “centerpiece” of the kitchen, so when you walk in that’s one focal point, and the other will be the sink+window. We are talking all looks here, but I think practicality will suffer.
I'd pick B or D, mainly bc I need counter space to prep meal prior to cook on the stove.
are you going to use IKEA to build your kitchen?
edit - I'd pick B, bc the sink is close by.
We are going with Ikea for the cabinets only, their new European line just came here last month, it’s pretty solid stuff and the kitchen event is currently on.
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#8116520 - 03/04/15 01:52 PM
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and the kitchen event is currently on.
hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry
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#8116590 - 03/04/15 02:29 PM
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LNXGUY
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can you knock down any walls///make hole to open it up?
Yup, that kitchen seems pretty small.
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#8117107 - 03/04/15 07:25 PM
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love that work triangle brah
you been reading the same books as me?
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#8117454 - 03/05/15 12:01 AM
Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?!
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I like the last sketch as well. Everyone eventually crowds around the kitchen, it never fails.
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#8117581 - 03/05/15 08:02 AM
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Denis Si
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Better yet, sell the house and move to Durham so you can have a normal size kitchen
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#8117590 - 03/05/15 08:13 AM
Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?!
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can you take out the bottom walls so its open to your hallway and play from there?
Problem with that is that when you enter the house you see right into the kitchen, I hate that in homes. I don’t like the whole house to be exposed from the front door, just a personal preference.
I like the last sketch as well. Everyone eventually crowds around the kitchen, it never fails.
so true, this is why the seating area (lack thereof) is a big issue for me.
Can you do a quick sketch of how the bottom hallway and living room connect to the kitchen? So I guess just add in the rest of the main floor so I have better idea for flow.
I have an idea that may work.
See attached
better yet.
snap a pic of your current kitchen so we have a better visual of the current layout with the walls.
You just want to photoshop some more drizzy in there doe.
Better yet, sell the house and move to Durham so you can have a normal size kitchen
I would move into a 450 sq. ft. condo before I move to Durham
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#8117625 - 03/05/15 08:35 AM
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I'd take out the wall between the kitchen/livingroom and open up that entire space. Or at least the wall directly to the right of the kitchen and make that upper part a breakfast nook or something.
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#8117751 - 03/05/15 09:29 AM
Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?!
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I should show these to my wife.
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#8117809 - 03/05/15 09:57 AM
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I don’t like the whole house to be exposed from the front door, just a personal preference. I'm with you on this
this is why the seating area (lack thereof) is a big issue for me. Where do you eat your meals now, in your dining room? Do you want a "breakfast area" ie an area for a kitchen table?
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#8117889 - 03/05/15 10:36 AM
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this is why the seating area (lack thereof) is a big issue for me. Where do you eat your meals now, in your dining room? Do you want a "breakfast area" ie an area for a kitchen table?
Because the kitchen is a mess right now, we eat on that wooden dining room table that c2k posted. I don’t like it, would rather eat in the kitchen like we used to. The left side of the kitchen had a round table with 4 chairs before and that was the main eating area all the time.
i'd swap those two counter surfaces on either side of the range. you'd want the larger one next to the fridge for when you'll grabbing a whole bunch of stuff out.
how much space is on either side of that peninsula? might be better to just move those cabinets north and south with the open space in the middle?
I agree on swapping the counters around range, but for safety you need minimum 15” I think on either side, the piece between range and fridge now is 10”. Unless I shorten the other 30” to a 24” I can’t swap them out.
I see what you are saying on rearranging the cabinets north and south, that will make it way too tight for a seating area.
Here is my attempt at sketching the peninsula that would potentially go on the left side of the kitchen:
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#8117922 - 03/05/15 10:55 AM
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Denis Si
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Dude. Can you use a ruler please?
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#8117986 - 03/05/15 11:31 AM
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this is why the seating area (lack thereof) is a big issue for me. Where do you eat your meals now, in your dining room? Do you want a "breakfast area" ie an area for a kitchen table? Because the kitchen is a mess right now, we eat on that wooden dining room table that c2k posted. I don’t like it, would rather eat in the kitchen like we used to. The left side of the kitchen had a round table with 4 chairs before and that was the main eating area all the time. i'd swap those two counter surfaces on either side of the range. you'd want the larger one next to the fridge for when you'll grabbing a whole bunch of stuff out.
how much space is on either side of that peninsula? might be better to just move those cabinets north and south with the open space in the middle? I agree on swapping the counters around range, but for safety you need minimum 15” I think on either side, the piece between range and fridge now is 10”. Unless I shorten the other 30” to a 24” I can’t swap them out. I see what you are saying on rearranging the cabinets north and south, that will make it way too tight for a seating area. Here is my attempt at sketching the peninsula that would potentially go on the left side of the kitchen:
I like the idea of eating on a peninsula, but the problem is, it'll take up a good chunk of wasted space. Now I dont know how tall your wife is, but do you think you'd be able to use the center cabinet and reach it?
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