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#8381397 - 09/29/15 08:05 AM Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here
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http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2015/09/28/3-children-1-man-killed-in-vaughan-crash.html

I can't even imagine coming home and my kids not being there

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#8381404 - 09/29/15 08:14 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Yup very sad. Wife and I were surprised the parents held up well on the news last night. Will be interesting to see how this plays out with a grieving family vs billionaire family.
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#8381407 - 09/29/15 08:18 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Big Tasty]
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 Originally Posted By: Big Tasty
Yup very sad. Wife and I were surprised the parents held up well on the news last night. Will be interesting to see how this plays out with a grieving family vs billionaire family.


+1

Totally, and I can't even imagine how it'd feel. I hope the moron gets the book thrown at him.
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#8381414 - 09/29/15 08:33 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Beyond tragic. But i hate how the news takes advantage of this.

Also I want to k ow what happened. They are glossing over it which unfortunately is making me think (for now) that grandad pulled into the intersection when he shouldn't have.

Kipling has the stop sign ...not kriby. Only a two way stop.

I wish they could confirm some details.


Book or not that guy is mentally ruined for life.
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#8381418 - 09/29/15 08:40 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Euphoricuck]
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I'd fucking murder that guy.
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#8381434 - 09/29/15 08:59 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
I wish they could confirm some details.


That's a matter for the courts to decide.

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#8381445 - 09/29/15 09:05 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: LNXGUY]
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On Facebook, someone said he just had his stag night before and was going home.
But it happened at 4 pm, well after the hotel check out time.
The breathlizer test confirmed it was over twice the limit, so he was drinking that day too I assume.
He WAS getting married next month.
His Facebook was deleted too since yesterday morning.
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#8381466 - 09/29/15 09:19 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: LNXGUY]
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I'd fucking murder that guy.


There is no doubt in my mind that's the only logical thing to do. You are done for life, I have no idea how those parents will move on from this. Nothing to lose at this point.


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#8381472 - 09/29/15 09:24 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Risky Business]
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When I first heard of the story on the radio, it was worded as if it was the grandfather (driving the kids) that was drunk \:\|

So sad ...

TheStar has a hard-on for this guy; they're digging deep into his background.


Edited by furball (09/29/15 09:27 AM)

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#8381474 - 09/29/15 09:26 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Big Tasty]
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Not quite billion... But enough to be 45th-richest ... Well, his grandfather at least.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015/09/...l-offences.html

 Originally Posted By: Big Tasty
Yup very sad. Wife and I were surprised the parents held up well on the news last night. Will be interesting to see how this plays out with a grieving family vs billionaire family.


I found this to be a weird phrase to use.... His lawyer:
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“Twenty-four hours hasn’t even passed so we still have a long row to hoe.


Edited by furball (09/29/15 09:28 AM)

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#8381503 - 09/29/15 09:50 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: furball]
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holy shit.

I hope this guy is done. I doubt it being in a wealthy family. Wealthy, not rich.


Edited by OracerO (09/29/15 09:58 AM)

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#8381518 - 09/29/15 10:00 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: OracerO]
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Given the way he acted over the years this incident was a long time coming (tragically).
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#8381525 - 09/29/15 10:02 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: furball]
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 Originally Posted By: furball
Not quite billion... But enough to be 45th-richest ... Well, his grandfather at least.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015/09/...l-offences.html

 Originally Posted By: Big Tasty
Yup very sad. Wife and I were surprised the parents held up well on the news last night. Will be interesting to see how this plays out with a grieving family vs billionaire family.


I found this to be a weird phrase to use.... His lawyer:
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“Twenty-four hours hasn’t even passed so we still have a long row to hoe.


Guess it is how you qualify it, they have the family Estate at 1.7B @ 52nd place.

http://www.canadianbusiness.com/lists-and-rankings/richest-people/top-100-richest-canadians-2015/

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#8381641 - 09/29/15 10:51 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
I wish they could confirm some details.


That's a matter for the courts to decide.
I agree...but the news always sheds some light on what happened. Right or wrong.
It seems in situations like these if the deceased messed up they gloss over it and focus on other things. Easy in this case,the other guy was intoxicated.

Huge loss either way.
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#8381677 - 09/29/15 11:09 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
Beyond tragic. But i hate how the news takes advantage of this.

Also I want to k ow what happened. They are glossing over it which unfortunately is making me think (for now) that grandad pulled into the intersection when he shouldn't have.

Kipling has the stop sign ...not kriby. Only a two way stop.

I wish they could confirm some details.


Book or not that guy is mentally ruined for life.


I too couldn't help but think this too. Either way, this is extremely tragic, yet the parents are so composed on TV...kind of strange if you ask me. I would be completely torn apart and appearing on TV would be the last thing on my mind.
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#8381731 - 09/29/15 11:42 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Hatorade]
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they are in shock
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#8381737 - 09/29/15 11:46 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Euphoricuck]
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After having a kid I can completely relate. I don't think I would be able to even function for a long while.
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#8381740 - 09/29/15 11:48 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Euphoricuck]
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And no.. that's not me in my Buddy's 360. That one was a hard top.

Apparently this guy was into "bad driving" a lot based on his background.

There are too many people out there with driving licences that shouldn't have one!
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#8381755 - 09/29/15 11:56 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Just A Troll]
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#8381892 - 09/29/15 01:03 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
they are in shock


That's what my wife said too.
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#8381935 - 09/29/15 01:28 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Hatorade]
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In the US I'd imagine (civil?) lawsuits would be filed already ..... But here? Nothing \:\(
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#8381955 - 09/29/15 01:36 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: furball]
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#8381988 - 09/29/15 02:01 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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3 little kids all gone. Wow.

If he goes to jail even for a short time prior to trial, the inmates will fuck him up.

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#8382003 - 09/29/15 02:10 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: The Postman]
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Couldn't even begin to imagine how those parents feel right now. So sad \:\(

The news story I was reading was going balls out talking about what his family has done for the community...like they were trying to make him the victim here. I fucking hate the media.

Plus, with all of that money on his side he'll probably get off with a slap on the wrist.

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#8382027 - 09/29/15 02:21 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Violent Spectre]
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just tragic. fucking rich asshole can't afford a cab if he was drinking hard? i hope they throw the book at him and he's someone's bitch in D block.
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#8382264 - 09/29/15 05:14 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: titty sprinkles]
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what happens if it turns out the minivan was in the wrong and pulled out when it shoudlnt have?(like we all know is a huge problem here these days)
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#8382290 - 09/29/15 06:05 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Euphoricuck]
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#8382308 - 09/29/15 06:23 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Euphoricuck]
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what happens if it turns out the minivan was in the wrong and pulled out when it shoudlnt have?(like we all know is a huge problem here these days)


Doesn't bring those three children back.

Forest for the trees homey.

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#8382309 - 09/29/15 06:26 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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#8382319 - 09/29/15 06:40 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Looking at the accident pics, it looks like the douche had the stop sign. Minivan got hit on the drivers side and the their car involved rear ended the drunk.

http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news/gta/...in-vaughan.html

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#8382324 - 09/29/15 06:45 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Euphoricuck]
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captain obvious


Clearly not, since you had to ask the question.

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#8382348 - 09/29/15 07:33 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: The Postman]
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Looking at the accident pics, it looks like the douche had the stop sign. Minivan got hit on the drivers side and the their car involved rear ended the drunk.

http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news/gta/...in-vaughan.html
I looked at a few different angles(from news pics) and its not entirely clear...

this is pure speculation.

but based off that toronto star photo and where the van ended up and the drivers side door being hit, you can rule out a couple directions of travel. (1. van wasnt where that fire truck is 2. Van wasnt coming towards the picture taker )

two possible outcomes left after that stellar armchair analysis is the van having the stop sign(in front of mercedes) and pulled out when it shouldnt have. Or the van coming from the left and the jeep blowing the stop sign coming towards the camera.

If we never hear the full details than the likely scenario is the van made an error. The news seems to do that(out of respect or whatever).
And if the guy was impaired, easy to focus on that instead.

As I said before(it shoudlnt need to be repeated but some people will be upset that Im focusing on accident details instead of the outcome). Its tragic either way.
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#8382411 - 09/29/15 09:05 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Dumbass
Looking at the accident pics, it looks like the douche had the stop sign. Minivan got hit on the drivers side and the their car involved rear ended the drunk.

http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news/gta/...in-vaughan.html
I looked at a few different angles(from news pics) and its not entirely clear...

this is pure speculation.

but based off that toronto star photo and where the van ended up and the drivers side door being hit, you can rule out a couple directions of travel. (1. van wasnt where that fire truck is 2. Van wasnt coming towards the picture taker )

two possible outcomes left after that stellar armchair analysis is the van having the stop sign(in front of mercedes) and pulled out when it shouldnt have. Or the van coming from the left and the jeep blowing the stop sign coming towards the camera.

If we never hear the full details than the likely scenario is the van made an error. The news seems to do that(out of respect or whatever).
And if the guy was impaired, easy to focus on that instead.

As I said before(it shoudlnt need to be repeated but some people will be upset that Im focusing on accident details instead of the outcome). Its tragic either way.



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#8383083 - 09/30/15 11:13 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Risky Business]
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#8383112 - 09/30/15 11:22 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: loudsubz]
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Apparently on his way home from Vegas via private jet where he had his stag. Had blood alcohol level twice the limit and ran a stop sign before his SUV tboned the other vehicle.
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#8383137 - 09/30/15 11:28 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: The Postman]
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He better not get away with this shit. His family has deep pockets so it's not looking good.
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#8383278 - 09/30/15 12:22 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: The Postman]
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ran a stop sign before his SUV tboned the other vehicle.
link? i have not seen any confirmation on this.Only wild speculations in online comment sections. Thats all I want to know.


I apologize to the forum cry babies for wondering what the actual details are before I join the witch hunt.
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#8383427 - 09/30/15 01:23 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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I am writing this for the 3rd time as I retrieved from submitting multiple. I didn't want to sound like I was siding with that guy.

Whatever he did was wrong, and hoping he gets what he deserves.
But I don't agree with media, including Facebook and forums attacking his family and their personal lives.
People assume they will buy their way out after finding out their wealth. People are digging up old video of his mother's audition footage and titles it inappropriately. That's equally sad. Ok, maybe not as much as losing 4 of your family members. But it's pathetic.

The leaked audition tape. I guess she deeply regrets doing that now.
This maybe how she is or just over exaggerating just like other reality show "stars.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3fb_1443561081#5bgPq0xi6EpRfrPv.16

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#8383611 - 09/30/15 02:57 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: porschetr]
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Here's a question:

If Muzzo "gets away with it", what are any of you going to do about it?
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#8383678 - 09/30/15 03:28 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Just A Troll]
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^did we all of a sudden become CSI ontario police or something? wtf do you expect us to do about it? lol

Edited by titty sprinkles (09/30/15 03:28 PM)
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#8383772 - 09/30/15 05:13 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: titty sprinkles]
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mob justice of course, just like on the simpsons!

i see where euphoric is going and i understand, we don't want to throw the guy completely under the bus until all the evidence is out, however, if he's blowing twice over, he's taking the brunt of it. even if the van made the mistake (which i don't think is the case from what i hear), you can't practice defensive driving when you're completely smashed.

i also don't want the rich family to take heat, but it's really unlikely they'd just allow their son's life at 29 to go down the toilet. they'll try anything and everything to preserve some level of normalcy for him. unfortunately, that'll never happen for the victim's family. their entire lives will forever be in ruins.
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#8383893 - 09/30/15 07:29 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: titty sprinkles]
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^did we all of a sudden become CSI ontario police or something? wtf do you expect us to do about it? lol


I'm simply pointing out that people get outraged, and very vocal, but never actually do anything about it.

That's why the rich "get away with it", because the rest just don't do anything.
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#8383967 - 09/30/15 09:09 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Just A Troll]
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^did we all of a sudden become CSI ontario police or something? wtf do you expect us to do about it? lol


I'm simply pointing out that people get outraged, and very vocal, but never actually do anything about it.

That's why the rich "get away with it", because the rest just don't do anything.


and i'm saying again, wtf are we supposed to do short of signing them up for a free washer and dryer on kijiji?

hey y'all! grab yo pitchforks!
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#8384061 - 09/30/15 11:29 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Just A Troll]
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^did we all of a sudden become CSI ontario police or something? wtf do you expect us to do about it? lol


I'm simply pointing out that people get outraged, and very vocal, but never actually do anything about it.

That's why the rich "get away with it", because the rest just don't do anything.


Are you stupid?









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#8384140 - 10/01/15 04:56 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Hatorade]
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 Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles
^did we all of a sudden become CSI ontario police or something? wtf do you expect us to do about it? lol


I'm simply pointing out that people get outraged, and very vocal, but never actually do anything about it.

That's why the rich "get away with it", because the rest just don't do anything.


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#8384154 - 10/01/15 06:31 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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clearly you guys forgot his name and his purpose here.
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#8384225 - 10/01/15 08:19 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Just A Troll]
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Here's a question:

If Muzzo "gets away with it", what are any of you going to do about it?


What about when people online side with the "rich" to give off the perceived image that they are also rich meanwhile living that cubicle worker life lol

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#8384253 - 10/01/15 08:44 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Risky Business]
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#8384270 - 10/01/15 09:03 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
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Here's a question:

If Muzzo "gets away with it", what are any of you going to do about it?


What about when people online side with the "rich" to give off the perceived image that they are also rich meanwhile living that cubicle worker life lol


Wow.. did you just call our CEO middle class?
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#8384275 - 10/01/15 09:05 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Just A Troll]
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Evidence compromised by 'spontaneous electrical fire' \:\|

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2015/0...ce-custody.html


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#8384282 - 10/01/15 09:08 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: titty sprinkles]
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^did we all of a sudden become CSI ontario police or something? wtf do you expect us to do about it? lol


I'm simply pointing out that people get outraged, and very vocal, but never actually do anything about it.

That's why the rich "get away with it", because the rest just don't do anything.


and i'm saying again, wtf are we supposed to do short of signing them up for a free washer and dryer on kijiji?

hey y'all! grab yo pitchforks!


Go spend some time on reditt. They're quite creative over there as far as "social justice" is concerned.

That's a start.

Still my point is: Just like 99% of the people out there, you make a lot of "noise" but do very little to change society.
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#8384298 - 10/01/15 09:18 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: furball]
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Evidence compromised by 'spontaneous electrical fire' \:\|

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2015/0...ce-custody.html
Read that this morning, wondered how many officers had to be on the take for that to happen

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#8384324 - 10/01/15 09:46 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: furball]
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 Originally Posted By: furball
Evidence compromised by 'spontaneous electrical fire' \:\|

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2015/0...ce-custody.html




How does one start an electrical fire when it's not even running? Jeez. Mafia family or something?
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#8384335 - 10/01/15 09:54 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: c2k]
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Evidence compromised by 'spontaneous electrical fire' \:\|

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2015/0...ce-custody.html




How does one start an electrical fire when it's not even running? Jeez. Mafia family or something?


It's actually more common than you think. there's an even greater risk of that after that kind of collision. BUT that being said, that's pretty fucking suspicious! Such BS and yeah this family has tentacles everywhere for years and it wouldnt surprise me if it's internal foul play, disgusting if that's the case.

Ironic how there are so many other collision vehicles held there (and at other locations) that HAVE NOT caught fire daily, eh??
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#8384340 - 10/01/15 09:57 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Jeep catching fire is pretty common lol
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#8384392 - 10/01/15 10:29 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: porschetr]
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#8384437 - 10/01/15 10:57 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: porschetr]
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In this world there are equalizers. As for a wealthy family, they surely can pay their way out of anything. F'in sad but I've witness this first hand in China.

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I am writing this for the 3rd time as I retrieved from submitting multiple. I didn't want to sound like I was siding with that guy.

Whatever he did was wrong, and hoping he gets what he deserves.
But I don't agree with media, including Facebook and forums attacking his family and their personal lives.
People assume they will buy their way out after finding out their wealth. People are digging up old video of his mother's audition footage and titles it inappropriately. That's equally sad. Ok, maybe not as much as losing 4 of your family members. But it's pathetic.

The leaked audition tape. I guess she deeply regrets doing that now.
This maybe how she is or just over exaggerating just like other reality show "stars.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3fb_1443561081#5bgPq0xi6EpRfrPv.16



As much as this sucks for the family, but it's a equalizer.

I truly believe things get balanced out. So the family will probably pay their way out because they have far reaching arms. Society/social media will determine how heavy the punishment. Or maybe social media keeps the pressure up that the family won't do anything about it? Or that the corrupt officials can't get the guy out of trouble.

All equalizers. Either way, it's not looking good for him. In fact this entire situation isn't good.


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#8385090 - 10/01/15 03:34 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: OracerO]
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I realized the accident was really close to my buddy's fire station and got in touch with him last night. Yep, he was one of the responders. Tough call.
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#8385103 - 10/01/15 03:36 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Just A Troll]
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 Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles
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^did we all of a sudden become CSI ontario police or something? wtf do you expect us to do about it? lol


I'm simply pointing out that people get outraged, and very vocal, but never actually do anything about it.

That's why the rich "get away with it", because the rest just don't do anything.


and i'm saying again, wtf are we supposed to do short of signing them up for a free washer and dryer on kijiji?

hey y'all! grab yo pitchforks!


Go spend some time on reditt. They're quite creative over there as far as "social justice" is concerned.

That's a start.

Still my point is: Just like 99% of the people out there, you make a lot of "noise" but do very little to change society.


you mean like the same way how your mouth is talking yet your still behind your keyboard?

hatorade is right you are stupid. this gif makes more sense than you do:



Edited by titty sprinkles (10/01/15 03:41 PM)
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#8385209 - 10/01/15 04:09 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: titty sprinkles]
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lol @ gif. wtf.
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#8386454 - 10/02/15 12:25 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: OracerO]
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Sounds shady ...

CN: Guy's lawyer asks for an adjournment, effectively keeping his client in jail, so that they can review the evidence from the Crown. Also just so happens that new date is when the federal elections are...

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2015/1...ndchildren.html

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It’s too early to say <whether he> will plead not guilty, his lawyer said Friday ... where he asked Justice of the Peace Philip Solomon to adjourn the bail hearing for Marco Muzzo until Oct. 19


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Muzzo’s bail hearing is now scheduled to occur on the same day as the federal election.

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#8386461 - 10/02/15 12:29 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: furball]
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Too soon junior? \:\|


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#8386521 - 10/02/15 12:55 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: furball]
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Sounds shady ...

CN: Guy's lawyer asks for an adjournment, effectively keeping his client in jail, so that they can review the evidence from the Crown. Also just so happens that new date is when the federal elections are...

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2015/1...ndchildren.html

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It’s too early to say <whether he> will plead not guilty, his lawyer said Friday ... where he asked Justice of the Peace Philip Solomon to adjourn the bail hearing for Marco Muzzo until Oct. 19


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Muzzo’s bail hearing is now scheduled to occur on the same day as the federal election.




That publicity machine doe.

Also for every day you are in prison before your sentencing you usually get the equivalent of 2 days served for every 1 day you are there. THey are either expecting him to be convicted and to do jail time and earning him credit now so he spends less time behind bars once sentenced or a combination of that and to make it go away quietly with the election around.

They would be stupid to think the election is going to take the spotlight of this case, people love this shit, probably more so than the election lol

where the real benzo at?

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#8386537 - 10/02/15 12:59 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Risky Business]
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What lawyer wouldn't want to review the crowns evidence. Do you even lawyer ?
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#8386573 - 10/02/15 01:10 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Euphoricuck]
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I wonder if they think hes a flight risk? Potentially getting convicted or getting out of dodge on the families dime. Non extradition country here I come lol.
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#8386605 - 10/02/15 01:20 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: The Postman]
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^ that's probably why the crown is trying to keep him in custody to trial. Heard on the news the Muzzo family has been receiving death threats and they have hired personnel security. Wat dat middle class money do!
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#8386652 - 10/02/15 01:40 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Hatorade]
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Fuck, do you guys even read \:\|

His OWN lawyer is keeping him in prison, stating they want disclosure etc etc... They could also plead NOT GUILTY at this point. You can continue to review evidence OUT OF JAIL ... This was simply a bail hearing.


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#8386756 - 10/02/15 02:38 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: furball]
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#8387041 - 10/02/15 05:49 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: titty sprinkles]
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Dude was supposed to get married on the 17th.
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#8389031 - 10/05/15 07:13 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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They still can ... Why stop the plans?

I mean ... the kids were supposed to keep breathing today, why would they sto ... oh wait. \:\| \:\(



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Dude was supposed to get married on the 17th.

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#8389156 - 10/05/15 08:53 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: titty sprinkles]
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I would hate to be a defense attorney


Why? The amount of dough you can make off this loser would put your kid through college. Especially since he's from a wealthy family.

You can tie up the case in the courts for a very long time and keep billing at $600/hr while still knowing you're not going to win.

But if you're talking about the moral issue, then yes. How can you in good conscience defend such a douche?
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#8389171 - 10/05/15 08:58 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Just A Troll]
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I bet you most lawyers would not have a problem defending this guy. Not because of the money ($$$) they'll make but because of the challenge and the possibility of actually getting him off (there are a lot of details that the public doesn't know of yet).

At the end of the day yes he may be a douche but he didn't mean to kill them. I always question the defense lawyers for rapists, murders etc.

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#8389505 - 10/05/15 11:33 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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#8390360 - 10/05/15 07:00 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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https://ca.news.yahoo.com/video/horrendous-scene-left-alleged-drunk-000802586.html

Vtec kicked in

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#8390466 - 10/05/15 08:09 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: The Postman]
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https://ca.news.yahoo.com/video/horrendous-scene-left-alleged-drunk-000802586.html

Vtec kicked in


lol...said the same thing when i saw the Si into the house, like really???? wow.
ironically the house he hit...that dude also had a newer 4dr white Si in the garage. tho the driver smoked the other car more...it was 3wks old...navy blue lexus i think?

anyways, fucking punk piece of shit teen or whatever he was...kareem abdul jabbar named motherfucker. hope they don't let him drive for the next 20 years.

another reason why i'd never buy a home facing the "end" of a street, fuck that noise. the ONE time it's gonna happen, boom.

the kid did about $300k damage to the home in addition to the cars in the garage.....GNSP insurance. he may as well just go join ISIS now.


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#8390532 - 10/05/15 08:59 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Ya that's a big reason I wouldn't want a house placed like that.


That kid didnt lose control. He didn't even attempt to turn.
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#8390790 - 10/06/15 06:46 AM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: The Postman]
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https://ca.news.yahoo.com/video/horrendous-scene-left-alleged-drunk-000802586.html

Vtec kicked in


HOLY SHIT! WOW!
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#8393007 - 10/07/15 12:51 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: c2k]
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Only 5 years for killing father/daughter and no license for 8 years.

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#8393033 - 10/07/15 01:02 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Big Tasty]
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http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/man-sentenced-to-5-years-for-impaired-driving-causing-death-of-father-daughter-1.2597834

Only 5 years for killing father/daughter and no license for 8 years.


WTF

fuck this system of ours. bullshit.
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#8393036 - 10/07/15 01:04 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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is it though?
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#8503962 - 01/06/16 02:38 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Marco Muzzo, the man charged with drunk driving causing death and other offences in a devastating crash in Vaughan that killed three Brampton children and their grandfather, will return to court next month to plead guilty.

The 29-year-old King Township man, the grandson of late Mississauga billionaire developer Marco Muzzo, faces 18 charges, including four counts of impaired driving causing death in the Sept. 27 crash that killed Daniel Neville-Lake, 9, Harrison Neville-Lake, 5, 2-year-old Milagros (Millie) Neville-Lake, all of Brampton, and their grandfather, Gary Neville, 65.

Amid‎ a circus of journalists, Muzzo appeared in Superior court in Newmarket court this afternoon in front of Justice Michelle Fuerst with his lawyer, Brian Greenspan, who told the court his client will be returning to court Feb. 4 to plead guilty and enter in an agreed statement of facts.

Earlier in the day, Greenspan told an Ontario court judge his client wishes to be tried before a judge and not a jury.

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#8503970 - 01/06/16 02:40 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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http://www.bramptonguardian.com/news-story/6220970-breaking-news-marco-muzzo-to-plead-guilty-to-fatal-drunk-driving-crash-that-killed-three-brampton-k/

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Marco Muzzo, the man charged with drunk driving causing death and other offences in a devastating crash in Vaughan that killed three Brampton children and their grandfather, will return to court next month to plead guilty.

The 29-year-old King Township man, the grandson of late Mississauga billionaire developer Marco Muzzo, faces 18 charges, including four counts of impaired driving causing death in the Sept. 27 crash that killed Daniel Neville-Lake, 9, Harrison Neville-Lake, 5, 2-year-old Milagros (Millie) Neville-Lake, all of Brampton, and their grandfather, Gary Neville, 65.

Amid‎ a circus of journalists, Muzzo appeared in Superior court in Newmarket court this afternoon in front of Justice Michelle Fuerst with his lawyer, Brian Greenspan, who told the court his client will be returning to court Feb. 4 to plead guilty and enter in an agreed statement of facts.

Earlier in the day, Greenspan told an Ontario court judge his client wishes to be tried before a judge and not a jury.


Just saw it on the news yeah. Of course he wants judge...cause a jury will ream him and he'll be guilty on at least half the charges most likely.

I bet his defense will weasel their way into getting a judge they "know" and is more lenient on the accused. Hopefully that's not the case and he goes away for awhile. I would assume he's going to get min. 20 yrs no? Given our pansy system. (dat life doe)
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#8504037 - 01/06/16 03:13 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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wow a guilty plead. i thought he would dump money into lawyers and plead non-guilty....because canada.
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#8504835 - 01/06/16 10:14 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: titty sprinkles]
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Was thinking that too initially, but given the family business sounds pretty high profile and drunk driving is not socially acceptable, if the family didn't own up to some moral responsibility, that could affect their (corporate) image down the road?

Plus entering a guilty plea would be a long shot hope for a reduced sentence.

There's probably too much evidence against him to even fight for a not guilty plea.
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#8504837 - 01/06/16 10:14 PM Re: Damn it, who is cutting onions up in here [Re: titty sprinkles]
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hopefully he won't be in pc to start off his sentence, and gets murdered.
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