#8278409 - 07/06/15 01:40 PM
Re: Getting Hosed, Fack
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4age
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that's REALLY shady. You do not owe them a valve cover.
You even told them not to do anything, as you have a contact for discount parts...but they went ahead anyway.
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#8278414 - 07/06/15 01:41 PM
Re: Getting Hosed, Fack
[Re: Violent Spectre]
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LNXGUY
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That's a tough one.
Although they shouldn't have done shit once they found the vc had cracked except for calling you.
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#8278425 - 07/06/15 01:47 PM
Re: Getting Hosed, Fack
[Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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furball
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Did he return the cracked VC? (update: err, return the cracked VC to you.)
Not sure what to think re: him returning the VC you would buy using his receipt... 
Edited by furball (07/06/15 01:50 PM)
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#8278434 - 07/06/15 01:53 PM
Re: Getting Hosed, Fack
[Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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LNXGUY
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I would be to, that's just too shady.
They should have called you and asked what you wanted to do.
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#8278454 - 07/06/15 02:06 PM
Re: Getting Hosed, Fack
[Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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Risky Business
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Rocco has been in shit before but he has made right with ppl iirc from my maxbimmer days. From an objective point of view I don't think he would be maliciously trying to screw a customer over as the backlash would be bad.
I would try to talk to him first hand with all the facts (in person) and leave the ball in his court. If he says get lost then you can reassess.
Also buy a used valve cover...
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#8278455 - 07/06/15 02:07 PM
Re: Getting Hosed, Fack
[Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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LNXGUY
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Yeah but in the process they made a semi functional VC into a completely non-functional VC, lol.
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#8278481 - 07/06/15 02:33 PM
Re: Getting Hosed, Fack
[Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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SuPeR-MaRiO
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Since it boils down to his word against your gut, no one wins here. You can argue and battle him on it and maybe he'll fold, but you'll need to decide how much your time, and proving yourself right, is worth. In that case, you likely won't be going back to him for future work.
Or you buy the replacement cover now, end this transaction and move forward. In that case, you likely won't be going back to him for future work.
Time vs. money is the only variable here. And only you can decide which is worth more.
I agree, but the question is, can I even prove I am right? Like you said its his word versus mine. No matter what I say there will be no proof.
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#8278678 - 07/06/15 03:52 PM
Re: Getting Hosed, Fack
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Phoenix confirmed that valve covers crack often (why they do is another discussion but I would be curious to know) so maybe the shop didn't actually break it, however gluing it and ordering a new one is Mickey mouse shit. How good of a shop can it really be if they tried to fix it like they were on the side of the road in Baghdad. Fuck
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#8278776 - 07/06/15 05:08 PM
Re: Getting Hosed, Fack
[Re: phoenixrage]
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pheggit
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Valve covers cracking is quite common for e90s... I guess this is why we have a few in stock and when techs find cracks in them, they swap them out instead of trying to band-aid fix it.
also, not sure which dealer would give you an exact % off flat across the board when everything varies in margins.
+1
Once I read hairline crack on VC I wasn't surprised at all. What's shady is the shop going ahead even though you said not to. What place is this???
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#8278855 - 07/06/15 06:13 PM
Re: Getting Hosed, Fack
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SuPeR-MaRiO
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Well I guess I wouldn't be outing him as he outed himself on FB.
If by any chance you're a member of the BMW True North group on FB, here is a link to the thread: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bmwtruenorth/838883356208111/
His name is Leslie Du. I have spoken to him before and he seems like a nice guy. He comes highly recommended amongst many people in the group. He has been doing work (including walnut blasting) from his home garage but recently setup shop in Markham with another member in the group. Not sure if they have an actual name, they have two bays/hoists at a Petro-Canada location and specialize in BMWs.
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#8278914 - 07/06/15 07:31 PM
Re: Getting Hosed, Fack
[Re: Euphoricuck]
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pheggit
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Sounds like some mickey mouse shit.
See if he will split the valve cover cost with you. ? In a perfect world he will eat the vc cost.
Why should Leslie eat the cost of the VC? This is a known issue with these cars. I suppose Leslie should have informed the OP first that VCS are known to crack on these cars and by removing it, it might crack.
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'08 E90 M3
'11 E90 d
'02 Rota Grid - 195-55-16FR (RIP)
'04 Volk GTC - 245-35-19F/275-35-19R (Sold to a farm boi)
I thought Spark was a robot from the old movie and I kind of remember seeing him telling some engineer showing the equation for a clear metal that the guy would event years later - porschetr
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#8278945 - 07/06/15 08:00 PM
Re: Getting Hosed, Fack
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SuPeR-MaRiO
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Sounds like some mickey mouse shit.
See if he will split the valve cover cost with you. ? In a perfect world he will eat the vc cost. Why should Leslie eat the cost of the VC? This is a known issue with these cars. I suppose Leslie should have informed the OP first that VCS are known to crack on these cars and by removing it, it might crack.
As odd as that might sound yes, he should have. If he specializes with these cars and is aware of the issue, he should have said "oh by the way, these things are very finicky and there is a chance that i might break your valve cover resulting in an additional $600". At that point I would have stood over his shoulder watching the removal and installation.
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