You didn't lose shit because of a diet based on some unique thinking/science. You lost some water and likely a few pounds by not eating junk. I mean, don't drink calories just means if you did, not doing it cuts calories. We all know fruit juice, liquor and soda can pack some decent calories.

And any diet prohibiting fruit is fail.

I also don't like a cheat day per week. You can ruin gains pretty quick in a day of gluttony. Keep it to a meal if you must.

Meh...so far its working...and this is not about maintaining gains, this is simply about weight-loss...down another 1.5 pounds as of this morning to 181.8 - total of 8.2 pounds in 15 days...thats pretty damn good and beyond just water weight IMO. Especially if you consider that I am not counting calories and not limiting food intake whatsoever...simply changed a few of the inputs. Never claimed it was unique..this is basically Atkins diet with a twist.

I eat pretty damn well to begin with. The major change with this 'diet' has been eliminating fruit and going nuts 1 day per week to eat whatever I want...I used to do this but it was much less structured. In terms of the fruit...its hard for sure. But the way I think about it...my ancestors in Eastern Europe weren't eating Florida Oranges in December and somehow my genes were passed on just fine. The last 2 cheat days I ate a shit ton of it.

I did the cheat day I Saturday and I gained 5 pounds in 24 hours...by my Monday morning weigh in I was back to where I was before the cheat.

This flies in the face of convention and the thinking I had before I tried it as well...like someone else posted, In the past when I wanted to lose some weight quick I would fast and call it good....this has had the same results but I'm eating a bunch, my training has not suffered and all other variables have stayed the same.

For reference I was 190 pounds and about 18-20% bodyfat (tested via BodPod a in April), 350 pound back squat, 400 pound deadlift, etc......trying to get closer to that 10% mark just for shits and giggles.

I don't understand all the controversy/hate, lol. Its just something to try and see if it works...why not?

sounds just like ultimate diet, carb night, carb backloading. all it is, is a niche way to shift things around to produce desirable results while giving you a small window to maintain responsibility over your mouth and then giving you a day to go hogwild within reasonable means not knowing how much of a fatass you can truly be in one day.

Depending on the person it can go the way it's supposed to or it can go to shit. In any case if it works for you then great, but long term it won't be sustainable. Eventually the reward is going to become more desirable than the work and you'll start calorie shifting and develop an eating disorder.

Not that I'm speaking from experience or anything.

sounds just like ultimate diet, carb night, carb backloading. all it is, is a niche way to shift things around to produce desirable results while giving you a small window to maintain responsibility over your mouth and then giving you a day to go hogwild within reasonable means not knowing how much of a fatass you can truly be in one day.

Depending on the person it can go the way it's supposed to or it can go to shit. In any case if it works for you then great, but long term it won't be sustainable. Eventually the reward is going to become more desirable than the work and you'll start calorie shifting and develop an eating disorder.

Not that I'm speaking from experience or anything.

update?

Not eating fruit to lose weight

9 months to lose 10 lbs



Seems legit

I get cranky as fuck and my performance plummets if I'm not taking in enough carbs /forever obese

I try to flirt with under-fueling with carbs and on a threshold/pace type effort underfueled is always some kind of controlled disaster and may involve crying. i think there's some merit to occasionally under-fueling teaching the body to burn fat but as a regular thing it's nothing but misery and I'm not fucking doing it anymore

Dude...i had the same feeling. Thing I like about this is you can eat a fucking ton...I'm still consuming 3000 calories per day...just no simple carbs...like mentioned earlier, added in complex carbs (sweet potatoes and squash) for the meal immediately after training.

Care to post your meal "plan" over a few days, curious to see how doable it is?

Care to post your meal "plan" over a few days, curious to see how doable it is?

Its definitely 'bland' for some people...but once you get used to it I've found it to be just fine. you can use all kinds of spices to make things more exciting

Typical day looks like this:

Breakfast (pretty much same everyday):
3 eggs 2 pieces of bacon plus avocado and greens or veggies

Mid-morning snack (same everyday):
Hard boiled eggs or cottage cheese

Lunch - depends if I eat at home or out but here are a few things that are typical.
1. Cabbage wraps - think cabbage 'tortilla' with meat protein (usually chicken), veggies, avocado, beans...lots of beans
2. Chicken breast, black beans, green salad (olive oil + vineagar)
3. Tuna salad 'bowl' - tuna, veggies, etc. Usually will eat cup of cottage cheese as its not enough.
4. Chipotle bowl no rice is a great option here if in a hurry

Afternoon snack:
same as above usually...
Hard boiled egg
cottage cheese
handful of nuts

Dinner (assuming I worked out after work): gets a bit bland but its basically taking a meat, complex carb, beans and veggie and mashing it into a meal. few examples simplified:

Meat protein + sweet potato + beans + asparagus and green salad with avocado
Meat protein + squash + beans + asparagus and green salad with avo
Meat protein + cauliflower rice + beans
burger (no bun) with refried beans and salad
Bacon wrapped squash bites + salad
Cauliflower dough pizza - look it up...its pretty legit.


I've found you really need to eat a lot of beans...A LOT of beans. Its the only way im able to maintain energy levels. But there is no calorie restriction, you can eat as much as you want of the foods allowed - again I am still consuming 3000ush calories per day on average...general rules of thumb:

Dont eat anything white or that was white (made of flour) - exceptions: califlour, eggs and cottage cheese
Dont drink calories
Don't eat fruit
Take a cheat day once per week and eat anything and everything you want.

Take away carbs and refined sugars to reduce insulin spikes - carb are converted to sugar - so your body burns fat instead...

Its no new concept...this is just a different spin. I like it and have seem improvements in physique and performance. I find it easy as there is no calorie counting needed and its very black and white...sharing it with people who might be looking for something easy to try.

This is obviously not an optimal diet if you are trying to gain mass quickly but for the average desk jockey that gets 3-5 days excersise on average...works great IMO

Thanks! I might try a slight variant of this out of sheer boredom and also to take the thinking part of wha to make daily.

Except carbs aren't the only thing that spikes insulin. Protein does it, too, even if you are moderating it with "complex carbs." ALL carbs are converted to sugars. There's no way around it. So, why eliminate FRUIT of all things? Makes no sense.

Seems like a diet that works by moderating intake rather than the mechanisms it professes.