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#8178520 - 04/20/15 09:25 AM Vas mind = blown.
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http://www.realtor.ca/propertyDetails.aspx?PropertyId=15548205

Lumsden Ave house for $1.1M I can realistically see i going in the 800s but this is the new reality.

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#8178524 - 04/20/15 09:27 AM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: Big Tasty]
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 Originally Posted By: Big Tasty
but this is the new reality.
famous last words
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#8178533 - 04/20/15 09:29 AM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Meh, it is the reality for anyone looking. Offer well below asking and see how far that gets you.
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#8178573 - 04/20/15 09:50 AM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: Big Tasty]
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I'll probably sound like an ass for this but

1. Meh to anything east of Woodbine (some streets are slums)
2. Meh for paying $1.1M to live in 25' wide house, mind you there are worse in the area (20' and less)

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#8178583 - 04/20/15 10:00 AM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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#donthave1million

have you seen those tweets? lol
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#8178631 - 04/20/15 10:28 AM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Someone dun goofed, that area is a pure ghetto scum, got robbed in the valley there back in the day. House looks like it was done well on the inside, outside is very meh.
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#8178633 - 04/20/15 10:30 AM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: Risky Business]
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Crescent town seems far away!!
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#8178915 - 04/20/15 12:51 PM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Household income for 50% of the families in that area: $0-$30k \:\|

Edited by furball (04/20/15 12:51 PM)

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#8178967 - 04/20/15 01:20 PM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: furball]
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Just street viewed the neighbourhood. LOL Def not a $1M neigbhourhood.

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#8179022 - 04/20/15 02:16 PM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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FWIW, 243 Lumsden Ave asking $385k early summer, then $369,900.00 late summer 2012

(Searched my archives for old MLS.ca postings...)

I don't recall looking in that house specifically, but I did walk into a house with that same 'shape' ... Holy FAWK is the interior so fucked... the 2nd floor hallway is uber narrow, I mean, I had to walk at an angle ... The shower? Well ... See how the walls on the 2nd floor tilt inwards? Well, that's the shower's wall. Try showering with your head tilted \:\|


Edited by furball (04/20/15 02:19 PM)

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#8179558 - 04/20/15 09:12 PM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: furball]
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For sale? http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015/04/20/explosion-levels-house-in-scarborough.html
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#8179620 - 04/20/15 10:05 PM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: furball]
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http://www.citynews.ca/2015/04/20/dashcam-video-of-scarborough-house-explosion/
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#8179679 - 04/20/15 11:13 PM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: Euphoricuck]
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https://twitter.com/JeremyGlobalTV/status/590271425354854401/photo/1
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#8179829 - 04/21/15 08:40 AM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: furball]
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 Originally Posted By: furball
Household income for 50% of the families in that area: $0-$30k \:\|


Sounds promising. Nowhere to go but up.

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#8179872 - 04/21/15 09:13 AM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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That's effed up. Not a nice area. I should know. I used to live at Coxwell and Danforth.

It's marginally better there. Only reason I would go anywhere near the million dollar mansion was to go to Canadian Tire and Duckworth's Fish and Chips, across the street.
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#8179915 - 04/21/15 09:58 AM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: spnx]
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 Originally Posted By: spnx
That's effed up. Not a nice area. I should know. I used to live at Coxwell and Danforth.

It's marginally better there. Only reason I would go anywhere near the million dollar mansion was to go to Canadian Tire and Duckworth's Fish and Chips, across the street.


Times have changed...

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#8180038 - 04/21/15 11:31 AM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: xza8]
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I know! I moved away... 2002, I think? To the magical village of Kingston.
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#8180213 - 04/21/15 01:24 PM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: furball]
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"A handyman's dream ..."

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#8180286 - 04/21/15 01:58 PM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: xza8]
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 Originally Posted By: spnx
That's effed up. Not a nice area. I should know. I used to live at Coxwell and Danforth.

It's marginally better there. Only reason I would go anywhere near the million dollar mansion was to go to Canadian Tire and Duckworth's Fish and Chips, across the street.


Times have changed...


Not exactly.

Coxwell/Danforth =! Lumsden/Main

Coxwell/Danforth has never been ghetto or comparable to Lumsden (a little bit on the south side of Danforth especially during the early '00s when gangs were running Monarch park and blasting sawed off shotguns in the middle of the park - a story for another day). Lumsden and Main is a sh!thole by Toronto city standards. No you are not going to get killed or stabbed walking around, it's not violent like the late 90's, but it still has a ton of people living below the poverty line, a lot of white trash and unkept homes, poor seniors, apartment buildings galore etc.

It has improved relatively speaking over the years, but it's still shit and probably one of the shittiest parts of east york.

Put it to you this way, when I used to go to East York, I used to bicycle from Dawes road to the school through lumsden. After getting robbed for my lunch and money at knife point and dobermans multiple times I ended up having to subway to Coxwell/Danforth and take the bus up Coxwell. Those scums used to wait for us before school AND after.


Where all the magic happened, perfectly sandwiched between buildings with a ton of alcoholics and *gang* wannabes.

https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=253+lumsde...2,81.24,,0,16.1

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#8181031 - 04/22/15 01:01 AM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: Risky Business]
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I know where that is - and so many highrises, it might as well be Crescent Town.
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#8183401 - 04/23/15 11:51 AM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: spnx]
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thats whacko. 1 mm in that area

here's my neighborhood

http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/porsche-wrecked-in-beaches-crash-1.2339053

shit woke me up at 1:30 the other night
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#8183410 - 04/23/15 11:55 AM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: f22b-dohc]
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#8184296 - 04/23/15 10:26 PM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: furball]
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this is becoming redonk, or wait, already is
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#8184966 - 04/24/15 11:41 AM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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i dont think we'd be able to afford a house if we didnt buy a few years ago...
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#8185014 - 04/24/15 12:33 PM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: f22b-dohc]
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 Originally Posted By: f22b-dohc
i dont think we'd be able to afford a house if we didnt buy a few years ago...


I'm a renter now, and there's no way in good conscience that at 35 I can afford the house I bought at 29.

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#8186061 - 04/25/15 10:05 AM Re: Vas mind = blown. [Re: 87ZCSi]
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Canadian dollar is dropping. Oil bubble has already collapsed. October election which could see a whole different party running the country.

I think we're somewhere between "Delusional" and "New Paradigm". Read below. Play close attention to the "lax credit" argument which fuels these bubbles. Notice that we're sitting on 0.75%. There's still 0.75% to go to keep the bubble going. But I doubt anybody will drop the interest rates to 0%.

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Source: http://people.hofstra.edu/geotrans/eng/ch7en/conc7en/stages_in_a_bubble.html


Stages in a Bubble
Business cycles are a well understood concept commonly linked with technological innovations, which are often triggering a phase of investment and new opportunities in terms of market and employment. The outcome is economic expansion and as the technology matures and markets become saturated, expansion slows down. A phase of recession is then a likely possibility as a correction is required to clear the excess investment or capacity that irremediably occur in the later stages of an economic cycle. The bottom line is that recessions are a normal condition to a market economy as they are regulating any excess, bankrupting the weakest players or those with the highest leverage. However, one of the mandates of central banking is to fight a process (business cycles) that occurs "naturally". The interference of central banks such as the Federal Reserve appear to be exaggerating the amplitude of bubbles and the manias that fuel them. It could be argued that business cycles are being replaced by phases of booms and busts, which are still displaying a cyclic behavior, but subject to much more volatility. Although manias and bubbles have taken place many times before in history under very specific circumstances (Tulip Mania, South Sea Company, Mississippi Company, etc.), central banks appear to make matters worst by providing too much credit and being unable or unwilling to stop the process with things are getting out of control (massive borrowing). Instead of economic stability regulated by market forces, monetary intervention creates long term instability for the sake of short term stability.
Bubbles (financial manias) unfold in several stages, an observation which backed up by 500 years of economic history. Each mania is obviously different, but there are always similarities; simplistically four phases can be identified:
Stealth. Those who understand the new fundamentals realize an emerging opportunity for substantial future appreciation, but at a risk since their assumptions are so far unproven. So the "smart money" gets invested in the asset class, often quietly and cautiously. This category of investor tends to have better access to information and a higher capacity to understand the wider economic context that would trigger asset inflation. Prices gradually increase, but often completely unnoticed by the general population. Larger and larger positions are established as the smart money start to better understand that the fundamentals are well grounded and that this asset class is likely to experience significant future valuations.
Awareness. Many investors start to notice the momentum, bringing additional money in and pushing prices higher. There can be a short-lived sell off phase taking place as a few investors cash in their first profits (there could also be several sell off phases, each beginning at an higher level than the previous one). The smart money takes this opportunity to reinforce its existing positions. In the later stages of this phase the media starts to notice with positive reports about how this new boom benefits the economy by "creating" wealth; those getting in becoming increasingly "unsophisticated".
Mania. Everyone is noticing that prices are going up and the public jumps in for this "investment opportunity of a lifetime". The expectations about future appreciation becomes a "no brainer" and a linear inference mentality sets in; future prices are an extrapolation of past price appreciation, which of course goes against any conventional wisdom. This phase is however not about logic, but a lot about psychology. Floods of money come in creating even greater expectations and pushing prices to stratospheric levels. The higher the price, the more investments pour in. Fairly unnoticed from the general public caught in this new frenzy, the smart money as well as many institutional investors are quietly pulling out and selling their assets. Unbiased opinion about the fundamentals becomes increasingly difficult to find as many players are heavily invested and have every interest to keep asset inflation going. The market gradually becomes more exuberant as "paper fortunes" are made from regular "investors" and greed sets in. Everyone tries to jump in and new intrants have absolutely no understanding of the market, its dynamic and fundamentals. Prices are simply bid up with all financial means possible, particularly leverage and debt. If the bubble is linked with lax sources of credit, then it will endure far longer than many observers would expect, therefore discrediting many rational assessments that the situation is unsustainable. At some point statements are made about entirely new fundamentals implying that a "permanent high plateau" has been reached to justify future price increases; the bubble is about to collapse.
Blow-off. A moment of epiphany (a trigger) arrives and everyone roughly at the same time realize that the situation has changed. Confidence and expectations encounter a paradigm shift, not without a phase of denial where many try to reassure the public that this is just a temporary setback. Some are fooled, but not for long. Many try to unload their assets, but takers are few; everyone is expecting further price declines. The house of cards collapses under its own weight and late comers (commonly the general public) are left holding depreciating assets while the smart money has pulled out a long time ago. Prices plummet at a rate much faster than the one that inflated the bubble. Many over-leveraged asset owners go bankrupt, triggering additional waves of sales. There is even the possibility that the valuation undershoots the long term mean, implying a significant buying opportunity. However, the general public at this point considers this sector as "the worst possible investment one can make". This is the time when the smart money starts acquiring assets at low prices.
Bubbles can be very damaging, especially for those who arrived late with the hope of getting something for nothing. Even if they are inflationary events, the outcome of a bubble's blow off is very deflationary as large quantities of capital vanish in the wave of bankruptcies and financial defaults they trigger. Historically, they tended to be far in-between, but between 1995 and 2008 three bubbles took place back-to-back; the stock market (deflated in 2000), real estate (deflated in 2006) and commodities (deflated in 2008).
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