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#8129910 - 03/13/15 08:29 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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looks fun man! good luck! im ready to get out and race...first xc race is 28th. always hate the first race of the year..effort hurts so much worse than later in the year. blah
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#8130086 - 03/14/15 05:01 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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Imagine this one will probably get postponed. Been raining 24 hours straight.

Private course and I doubt promoter wants to tear up the trail.

ugh, 2nd one that has been axed due to weather \:\(

edit: it is on - this will be interesting!

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#8130393 - 03/14/15 02:53 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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Oy. Hope it went well. Had to be a mess out there.
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#8131175 - 03/15/15 06:58 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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that was painful for my first cat 2 race
course was primo sans for a few boggy areas
ended up 5th though, what an awful course to do your first cat 2 race on lol
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#8131277 - 03/15/15 08:18 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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You always seem to race in the most miserable conditions!
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#8132587 - 03/16/15 07:36 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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nice job on 5th! +1 to what gamby said lol

60 degrees out here today, tested out my new wheels today. they fast. 19.7 avg for first hour, ended up with 42 miles. 3100 climb. could have rode all day it was so nice out. set a new pr with a flat :56 seconds into my ride lol

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#8132626 - 03/16/15 08:10 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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I hate you bastards that get climbing.

danke, the official usually posts a spreadsheet with our lap times/avg speeds

was pretty happy to just be in the top 5 of the entire class too (we do 19-29/30-39/40-49/50-59/60+

now to the next one

some extremely technical, lots of climbing, exposed hell hole.

2/1s do the part you see (which is the shitty hard part) and we do the loop that is just before Mt Scott in the background.

it.. will.. hurt
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#8132701 - 03/16/15 08:51 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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thats how the series i race used to do their age groups until last year when 19-29 became 19-39 which sucked but was nice at the same time. the pro/cat1 class doesnt have a age group but usually guys who can race masters age group bail out to that.

damn, that looks rough. thats not what i picture when i think oklahoma.

this is what i get to race next week \:D


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#8132725 - 03/16/15 09:19 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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oh we get a little of that around central OK - it is just clay based and turns into a never ending sand pit come race day!
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#8135124 - 03/18/15 02:18 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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A look at another course we race here in May and as you see it has a few pretty tough spots to clear.

https://youtu.be/4VIjKCWD-M8
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#8135312 - 03/18/15 03:45 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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#8135357 - 03/18/15 04:03 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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The only thing that looks different to me is the garage door!
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#8135441 - 03/18/15 04:58 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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all black wheels finally! no more ugly ass silver. New saddle too. New wheels are 1530grams with carbon hub on the front

Edited by nato2377 (03/18/15 04:58 PM)

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#8135740 - 03/18/15 08:13 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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First race ever this past weekend.

30min crit, raining and disgusting the whole time. Came in 5th. Group ended up together on the last lap. I was 2nd wheel coming out of the final turn. My "leadout" dude crapped out with maybe 200 yards to go. A bunch of people passed me, and I sprinted to try and catch up, ended up 5th.

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#8135947 - 03/19/15 12:48 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: volty]
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Another 2-4" speculated for Friday night. I'm SO beyond bummed it isn't funny. Zero outdoor miles this entire month so far. \:\(

Waiting on the long term forecast to see what the weather will be like on 3/29, as that road/dirt "classic" I've mentioned is coming. I don't have nato's fortitude to ride 45 miles on the road in 32 degree weather and I'm not riding it in rain (it was a 50 degree deluge last year), but it'll be so incredibly disappointing to not ride it this year.

I can't say I've ever been more bummed out by a winter. Last year was bad, but we were out of the woods weather-wise by now.
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#8137221 - 03/19/15 06:31 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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122 miles this week so far, just rolled 100hours for the year at 1585 miles!
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#8138535 - 03/20/15 07:17 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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holy fuck, you are insane. I like riding but not nearly enough to put that sort of time/miles in during the cold weather. To me it's no longer enjoyable when i'm out freezing my balls.

I just started on the trainer last week, I really, really, really, really, really, really ,really, really regret not riding through the whole winter like I did last year. Going to be a painful spring.

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#8138544 - 03/20/15 07:29 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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gotta just embrace it as a tool - riding it an hour in the morning or night - or both beats letting fitness slide the other way.

gotta find things that keep you riding as well - no winter-ish mtb series there or weather just kill that idea? TX has a pretty good winter marathon series that definitely helped keep me in shape, or improve since I did some on the singlespeed.

yeah singlespeed marathon races are just a bad idea for me, I like walking the night after the race.
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#8138620 - 03/20/15 08:53 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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 Originally Posted By: robbbby
holy fuck, you are insane. I like riding but not nearly enough to put that sort of time/miles in during the cold weather. To me it's no longer enjoyable when i'm out freezing my balls.

I just started on the trainer last week, I really, really, really, really, really, really ,really, really regret not riding through the whole winter like I did last year. Going to be a painful spring.


gotta do it to be competitive at this level...its def not always the most enjoyable. last week at the first us cup race, local guys that are beating me already and some who train with jeremiah bishop were getting pulled 2 laps into the pro xc race... one in 91st, the other in 86 and the 3rd in 74th...a lap is 3.54 miles and they did 2 before they got pulled. that is god damn ridiculous how fast the front guys are. i have till july..im just going to race my ass off and try to peak then.

my teammate always does the same thing, doesnt ride all winter then spends the 1st 1/3 of the year bitching hes not in shape lol

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#8138621 - 03/20/15 08:55 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: shamrok]
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 Originally Posted By: shamrok

yeah singlespeed marathon races are just a bad idea for me, I like walking the night after the race.


yea being able to walk is good lol

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#8138622 - 03/20/15 08:56 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: volty]
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 Originally Posted By: volty
First race ever this past weekend.

30min crit, raining and disgusting the whole time. Came in 5th. Group ended up together on the last lap. I was 2nd wheel coming out of the final turn. My "leadout" dude crapped out with maybe 200 yards to go. A bunch of people passed me, and I sprinted to try and catch up, ended up 5th.


nice job on your first race!

my first race i was such a noob. led out the sprint, sprinting on the hoods, almost had it, got nipped at the line by .3seconds and got 3rd lol


Edited by nato2377 (03/20/15 09:00 PM)

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#8139027 - 03/21/15 02:03 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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70 miles 5700 climb 4 hrs 10min. come on csi get out there and ride!
https://www.strava.com/activities/271842190


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#8139232 - 03/21/15 06:55 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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2 hour trainer session earlier today. Loads o' intervals.

Meh.
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#8139318 - 03/21/15 10:14 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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^^ youll thank yourself later! kudos!
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#8139410 - 03/22/15 07:04 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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 Originally Posted By: nato2377
 Originally Posted By: robbbby
holy fuck, you are insane. I like riding but not nearly enough to put that sort of time/miles in during the cold weather. To me it's no longer enjoyable when i'm out freezing my balls.

I just started on the trainer last week, I really, really, really, really, really, really ,really, really regret not riding through the whole winter like I did last year. Going to be a painful spring.


gotta do it to be competitive at this level...its def not always the most enjoyable. last week at the first us cup race, local guys that are beating me already and some who train with jeremiah bishop were getting pulled 2 laps into the pro xc race... one in 91st, the other in 86 and the 3rd in 74th...a lap is 3.54 miles and they did 2 before they got pulled. that is god damn ridiculous how fast the front guys are. i have till july..im just going to race my ass off and try to peak then.

my teammate always does the same thing, doesnt ride all winter then spends the 1st 1/3 of the year bitching hes not in shape lol


I understand that when you're racing pro it's a necessity to train and ride as much as you do, though i'd imagine if you weren't doing the pro racing you would still do 95% of the riding in the winter anyways. As for the local guys getting lapped, I doubt this has anything to do with fitness/training and boils down to the guys who lapped them just being naturally talented and better riders. Sometimes all the training in the world still won't get you anywhere near the really fast guys.

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#8139802 - 03/22/15 05:28 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: robbbby]
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did a tranining crit today which i wasnt planning on doing. did the A race with about 40 dudes. 21 laps of a 1 mile course. a couple dudes went from the gun and the pace the first few laps was 27-28mph which was crazy with the 15mph winds we had. i managed to stay with the lead group as the race splintered into 3 groups and we lapped them twice. came to the sprint and i was in 3rd, came around 2nd and had no one to draft, so two guys behind me we even with me at the line. all for not though as it was more of a points style race, and i didnt go for any, so i wasnt really 4th but it was a good hour race effort at 23+mph. strava estimate was 296w for a hour. not bad for a mountain biker
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#8139809 - 03/22/15 05:41 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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ah crits.. seems almost required for the fitness, since it is pretty hard to recreate that solo... i really don't want to do them. if I took anything away from that road race a few weeks back.... is that just because you can afford an s-works doesn't mean you can handle it - and man there are some scary as shit handlers in cat4/5

in other news, this was apparently supposed to be an 'endurance' ride...
when the guy shows up on his rigid single speed and lays waste to you... your levels of 'endurance' sure do mean different things!



edit: it was also a really bad idea to throw the 34t on last night.. really really bad idea

video of a lap https://youtu.be/dTceVr2V2FI - fortunately we just have to go about 2.5hrs east for some real climbing, NW Arkansas is abso-fucking-lutely great for mtb'ing.

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#8140088 - 03/22/15 11:37 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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 Originally Posted By: nato2377
^^ youll thank yourself later! kudos!


\:\)

I have til Friday to sign up for that road/gravel ride/race this coming Sunday. Weather says 44 and partly cloudy, which is pretty decent. 43 miles with 4 dirt road sections. Sounds like a shitload of fun. I'll do it on my cross bike with some 700x35 hybrid tires on it. The roads around here are FUCKED from the winter, so the extra cushion will be very welcome.
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#8143001 - 03/25/15 12:08 AM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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Just saw on FB that the Rhodekill ride was cancelled. Many of the dirt roads still have too much ice on them so one town won't issue the parade/bike event permit and another asked the organizer to "reconsider" holding the event altogether. This fucking winter.

Meanwhile, Thursday will be 55 and rainy, likely wiping out any trace of ice on anything.

I still hope to get out on the bike somewhere this weekend.
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#8144725 - 03/25/15 06:38 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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40 and rainy here now, 70 and rain tomorrow, 38 sat. WHAT.THE.FUCK.
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#8150111 - 03/29/15 02:56 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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66 miles 5800 climb today rolled 1800ytd so far! was a nice day,sunny no clouds and 44
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#8150137 - 03/29/15 03:33 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: nato2377]
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The past 2 months of zero outdoor miles notwithstanding, I have a feeling this year will be a lower mileage year than last. I think there will be more off-road riding (which means fewer total miles) and we'll see how much time I can put into it.

I hope to get out there once or twice this year--prospecting a (paved) bike path on the cross bike, as I don't know if it's fully rid of snow yet.

Had dinner with a couple of my cycling buds last night. One is buying a MTB, so I think we'll be in the woods a bit more than usual.
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#8152196 - 03/30/15 09:01 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: gamby]
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Park race on Sat. Used it as a chance to dick around, see what kind of moves we could pull. Tried a couple of attacks, ended up launching way too hard on one and dying before I could recover enough to maintain the gap. Field was fast for cat5? averaged almost 24mph.

Chased down a last minute break hoping to string the field and see if a teammate couldnt sprint it out. But, that last minute break's teammate made an awesome counterattack and won easy. Teammate got 3rd.

1100 mi ytd, not bad with our shit weather. Cant stand to be inside any longer.

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#8153462 - 03/31/15 05:49 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: volty]
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nice job!
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#8153868 - 03/31/15 11:50 PM Re: Cyclists that race - training [Re: volty]
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