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#8119324 - 03/06/15 06:17 AM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: c2k]
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After spending way too much time on ikea's kitchen builder and trying out layouts, I would go with the last route. It makes the best sense for what your looking to accomplish.
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#8119328 - 03/06/15 06:32 AM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Wildout]
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The solution is more simple, sell house for 800k, move to Courtice, buy new house for 300k

Invest the 500k, profit?

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#8119421 - 03/06/15 09:52 AM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: c2k]
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a buddy moved into his new house 2 weeks ago and he has a penisula in his kitchen. it works bc there's a window in front of it. Yours does not.
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#8121293 - 03/07/15 03:54 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Wildout]
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 Originally Posted By: Wildout
After spending way too much time on ikea's kitchen builder and trying out layouts, I would go with the last route. It makes the best sense for what your looking to accomplish.


You and I are on the same page, but considering the kitchen IS the most important part of the house (and I never fall into cliches) I really am getting cold feet on this. Either way it's going to cost a pretty penny for this reno and I am now trying to decide if knocking down walls may be the better choice

I've spent at least 4 hours on ikea's planner site and keep getting to deads ends


Edited by Rinky Business (03/07/15 03:55 PM)

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#8121553 - 03/07/15 11:26 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Risky Business]
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Try this.

Do you really need a formal dining room? It's a room that we hardly ever use and with the attached layout, you should be able to get a decent sized table in the kitchen that can seat 8 ppl.


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#8121624 - 03/08/15 08:43 AM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: xza8]
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Best idea so far. We don't even use the dining room. Instead we have just one larger living room.
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#8121687 - 03/08/15 11:18 AM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Hatorade]
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I'm assuming he house is a side split that has a family room at the back of the house under the kitchen. If so, I'd go with xza8's idea and make the living room into a dining room. The breakfast area won't be enough if you like to have people over for dinner.
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#8121711 - 03/08/15 12:05 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: SW20_MR2]
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Ya it depends on how much entertaining OP does. While I like xza8's design, it doesn't leave any room for a formal dining room, but again that will depend on OP's lifestyle/family/friends.

In addition, he can't very well put his dining room table and chairs in the kitchen. Apart from size, i doubt it will match the decor of the kitchen.

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#8121729 - 03/08/15 12:43 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: xza8]
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 Originally Posted By: xza8
Try this.

Do you really need a formal dining room? It's a room that we hardly ever use and with the attached layout, you should be able to get a decent sized table in the kitchen that can seat 8 ppl.



Interesting...that's actually something I never considered.

Like mentioned, I'd have no place for my dining room table and that's an important part of the *decor*. Also the kitchen we are going with is super modern so it will be a totally different space compared to the rest.

I also worry that it will close off the living room way too much by adding a wall, the whole footprint of the house is small, each floor is 1,400 sq. ft. so the spaces aren't big.

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#8121761 - 03/08/15 01:28 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Risky Business]
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Each floor is only 1400 Sq. Ft. Baller!!!
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#8121787 - 03/08/15 01:53 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Hatorade]
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^ but it's only one floor doe






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#8121819 - 03/08/15 02:29 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Risky Business]
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Do you have a family room as well?

Another option, go with xza's design but don't do the wall. Just make the back of the entire house the kitchen and run a big ass island across the space. Put your sink and dishwasher in that island. You get open concept and to new of storage.
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#8122484 - 03/09/15 10:24 AM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: c2k]
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I don't think I would make some built in seating honestly I would prefer none or just a table.





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#8122505 - 03/09/15 10:37 AM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Rollerboy69]
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That came out better than I envision the kitchen to be. Looks like a good spot for an eat-in kitchen by the wall cabinet.
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#8122570 - 03/09/15 11:11 AM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Rollerboy69]
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I don't think I would make some built in seating honestly I would prefer none or just a table.






oh wow, thanks man! this is so much better than the ikea program, looks wise anyway

That's the layout we are probably going to go with, the only difference is the back wall we don't want floor to ceiling pantry as we want a counter for all the non essential appliances (mixer/toaster/coffee maker).

The kitchen cabinets will be a gloss white, we were thinking from the back counter, down the middle to make a *custom* 5' table 30" from butcher block with a waterfall feature. It will essentially be a table, but will butt up against the counter and will be counter height with just a gloss white divider down the middle giving 15" of leg room under.

Something like this, should provide extra counter space and easy access to the back countertop as well


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#8122809 - 03/09/15 12:30 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Risky Business]
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#8123125 - 03/09/15 02:06 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Rollerboy69]
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I really appreciate all the renderings.

I probably didn't explain myself correctly, the backwall (where the table currently is) should have base + wall cabinets with the waterfall table perpendicular to them...kinda of like this peninsula, but instead the waterfall table. There is also a door opening on the opposite wall beside the fridge \:\)




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#8123171 - 03/09/15 02:24 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Risky Business]
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my uncle's place is setup with a peninsula like that. even tho it doesn't get much use it's nice to have, thing is with it is that you have to have a massive amount of space before it just looks intrusive.
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#8233965 - 06/03/15 12:36 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: titty sprinkles]
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So my wife's cousin who is a badass interior designer saved the day. Honestly these people are worth the time, considering I didn't want to go open concept and she had to work with such a small space she sketched out a proper layout. All i had to do was move a doorway 11" and it gives me a ton of space. No wonder she is featured on CTV and HGTV all the time \:D

Anyway, being unemployed this week I've tried to make the best of it, thanks to loudsubz for answering all my annoying electrical questions too \:\)

There is something to be said about people capable to make small spaces functional and look good. Hopefully I have most of this finished by next week.







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#8234171 - 06/03/15 02:32 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Risky Business]
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you do the cleanest demo ever.
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#8234285 - 06/03/15 03:47 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: titty sprinkles]
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Risky, do you bring inspector after to bless all the shit you do?


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#8234289 - 06/03/15 03:52 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Denis Si]
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Fuck that is clean for a demo. In the middle of converting our 4bdrm townhouse to a 3bdrm right now and it's dusty as fuck!!!
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#8234334 - 06/03/15 04:31 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
No wonder she is featured on CTV and HGTV all the time \:D


pics?


oh and great jorb btw
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#8234340 - 06/03/15 04:34 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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Lol clean demo. Ask for pics before clean up and other work done ;\)
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#8234783 - 06/04/15 01:59 AM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Ceiling too? Are you completely redoing the electrical or looking to add insulation?

I can't wait to see the finish stages. I like that you don't mess around and get shit done.

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#8234975 - 06/04/15 09:40 AM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Denis Si]
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Risky, do you bring inspector after to bless all the shit you do?


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Don't need an inspector, but for piece of mind I will have someone I know look over everything. Electrical is my only concern since I still have aluminum wiring that breaks easily. After I run a new gas line for my range I will get a gas fitter to come tag it for safety/insurance purposes. That's about it.


Will post more pix later, going counter top shopping with wife now

Wildout I ripped the ceiling because I am putting in pot lights and since it's a bungalow I need to properly do the vapor barrier etc and the install will be cleaner with drywall fully down. It's better this way and I don't mind the extra work for a better result.

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#8237363 - 06/05/15 02:40 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Risky Business]
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FYI: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/photos/7-kitchen-trends-might-regret-slideshow-222945737/

I'm just finishing renovating my newly bought condo and opted out of putting the microwave above the range. The Yahoo article explains why. It's pretty much the same conclusion I came to in order to make the place re-sellable in the future.
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#8237465 - 06/05/15 03:47 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Just A Troll]
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I am not big on the microwave over range look at all, reminds of me of peasantry. We don't have a microwave anyway, so it's not an issue. Keeping everything super simple and practical here, as you can see it's a small kitchen and practicality and space use are number one priorities.
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#8237489 - 06/05/15 04:00 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Risky Business]
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Oh.. I thought you were going to do it like Rollerboy's renders.
So how are you going to do the range hood?

I went this route:


No cabinets above the range. Pretty much the same range hood too with a bit different backsplash.

That cabinet above the range hood is pretty useless. Too small, too high to be really useful and you usually end up running a went tube through it anyway.
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#8237606 - 06/05/15 05:21 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Just A Troll]
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risky's handy work

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#8237646 - 06/05/15 05:43 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
I am not big on the microwave over range look at all, reminds of me of peasantry. We don't have a microwave anyway, so it's not an issue. Keeping everything super simple and practical here, as you can see it's a small kitchen and practicality and space use are number one priorities.


how can you not have a microwave?

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#8237652 - 06/05/15 05:47 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Just A Troll]
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Oh.. I thought you were going to do it like Rollerboy's renders.
So how are you going to do the range hood?

I went this route:


No cabinets above the range. Pretty much the same range hood too with a bit different backsplash.

That cabinet above the range hood is pretty useless. Too small, too high to be really useful and you usually end up running a went tube through it anyway.


It comes down to preference, the look you posted up is what most noobs go for, to the untrained eye it looks good, but it's a fad imo and not a timeless look. Chimney style hoods should only be used over islands imo or against walls without cabinets butting up against them. If I could have it my way and unlimited budget I'd go with a custom cabinet undermount hood that you don't even see.




This is pretty similar to what we will end up with:



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#8451800 - 11/23/15 01:22 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: c2k]
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Finally somewhat done, missing art on the walls which has been ordered. At last a beer in a civilized kitchen. No more milk creates tho.


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#8451811 - 11/23/15 01:27 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Risky Business]
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Well look who decided to show his face in the Ontario forum
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#8451817 - 11/23/15 01:32 PM Re: Speaking of room layouts, kitchen ideas?! [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Right on Vas, must be nice to be at the tail end of a project. I'm in the middle of our reno right now. Kinda like living in a warzone \:\)

My gfs dad does kitchen design for a living and did ours, it's pretty fucking kickass (The discount doesn't hurt either, lol)
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