#8024516 - 12/30/14 03:47 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
[Re: DieZel]
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DieZel
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here's a little comparo from July to now... about 30lbs difference...
Edited by DieZel (12/30/14 03:50 PM)
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#8024803 - 12/30/14 07:25 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
[Re: WNDYCTYone]
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65_289
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Fucking cannonball delts. 
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#8038766 - 01/09/15 12:07 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
[Re: It's Art]
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DieZel
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Registered: 07/16/06
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Art my OHP strength is not where it should be... And I never do seated, always standing... My left shoulder just doesn't have the overhead ROM it should...
Maxed out at 230 the other day but that was a full range of motion from chest to full extension... I don't half rep shit...
http://youtu.be/Yao54gOSYFA
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#8053038 - 01/20/15 01:09 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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wolfsburg2
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strong dude. I've always toyed with the idea of gear. Never pulled the trigger.
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#8058061 - 01/23/15 10:25 AM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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HotHB
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Do chicks dig this physique?
/serious question
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#8059962 - 01/24/15 05:11 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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HotHB
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I think we have different definitions of average...lol.
Fair enough, just curious.
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#8060310 - 01/25/15 12:26 AM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
[Re: Sir Ironpool]
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It's Art
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#8061185 - 01/25/15 10:15 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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The Mighty BellRacer
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Have you see gains in the wheels?
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#8062209 - 01/26/15 02:03 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
[Re: The Mighty BellRacer]
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DieZel
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I have, but not sure how much... I guess i'll see as I lean out... keep in mind my legs are somewhat hamstring dominant and I look much better from the side...
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#8062307 - 01/26/15 02:47 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
[Re: DieZel]
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DieZel
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#8063538 - 01/27/15 11:12 AM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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HondaBilly
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#8063703 - 01/27/15 12:27 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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The Mighty BellRacer
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no shit, goddamn son.
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#8063871 - 01/27/15 01:26 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
[Re: Sir Ironpool]
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DieZel
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Registered: 07/16/06
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Using PED's does not automatically net you gains... you STILL have to work hard, keep diet in check etc... Taking PED's doesn't make things "easier" persay, they just allow you to push yourself beyond your non PED potential...
Look, A LOT of guys take steroids and never make any serious gains, because they are stupid about it, don't train their ass off, don't keep their nutrition in check, don't get enough rest, party too much or just genetically aren't suited for them...
Nah I don't feel guilty because I am not competing against guys that are natural... If I was "cheating" I would have a sense of guilt about it, but essentially this was just something I've considered doing for a long time, and at the end of the day the federation I plan to compete in the playing field will essentially be level...
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#8063952 - 01/27/15 02:09 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
[Re: Sir Ironpool]
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DieZel
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I've been able to probably train "harder" and with more frequency simply due to the ability to recover quicker between workouts than compared to being natty...
I'm not going to bullshit you, steroids simply make you stronger... but you have to push yourself to get the gains... I just was no longer able to put in as much effort as I used to as a natty lifter (almost 40 now)...
For a year i was unable to press over 295 essentially, and within 3 months i was pressing well over 340 with ease and was making linear gains for 2 months straight, which just does not happen as a natty...
i've somewhat leveled off with 1RM strength gains so have since switched up my training to allow for more strength gains in the 5-10 rep range which should lead to 1RM gains as well...
Now that I am cutting though I fully expect a drop off at some point (maybe week 10-12), but I'm still progressing on all lifts as if I was in a surplus...
Mind you my use is "tame"... I know guys that are taking high amounts of hgh, and upwards of 3g of steroids a week along with peptides like igf1 etc...
I use less than 1g a week, and really don't have the desire to go full retard on the stuff, and add hgh, insulin, etc...
1. because that shit is expensive, and i'm doing this for "fun"
2. at some point I have to imagine that putting ALL that stuff into your body will likely increase your risk of negative sides
3. I'm already starting to feel like people are really giving me the "eye", like "wtf is he taking"... I looked good as a natty in the gym when I was lean... adding 20lbs of muscle and being lean is an eye opener...
4. I always enjoyed the "he's on shit" comments, but now I guess that I am on shit, I worry about the legality of it from time to time and getting too big, too quickly is a red flag...
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