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#8084580 - 02/09/15 01:07 PM The Debate Over Running While High
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but also \:\(

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-debate-over-running-while-high-1423500590

Ultrarunning gets into the Wall Street Journal and it's some bullshit article about smoking pot. I wasn't aware there was a raging debate over this topic.




Anyway, the article is particularly funny to me because the main runner they interviewed was Avery Collins a 22 year old "professional ultramarathoner" who moved to Steamboat Springs last fall.

I still haven't met the kid but he won a handful of races I've never heard of before

http://ultrasignup.com/results_participant.aspx?fname=Avery&lname=Collins

And apparently works at Sports Authority according to people who've asked me "hey man, have you met that new guy Avery?" He DNF'd at Run Rabbit Run in September and I first heard of him when the local paper ran an article on him for winning Cloudsplitter 100 mile (Kentucky's first 100 mile race)

http://www.steamboattoday.com/news/2014/oct/07/steamboat-runner-wins-100-mile-race/

CN: I enjoy the sport being a little off the beaten path but I still cringe when I see articles like this. I feel especially bad for the Rob Krars and Ian Sharmans of the sport who strive to be taken seriously and then get undermined by 22 year old "professional" stoners
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#8084593 - 02/09/15 01:14 PM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: 2000SiRacer]
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\:D [repl marathon w/ultra ofc]
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#8084601 - 02/09/15 01:19 PM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: stickaz_old]
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Just watched the video

It's interesting, at the end the reporter mentions most runners he contacted declined to comment and this Avery guy sounds like the only one willing. I'll be interested to see how this unfolds
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#8084629 - 02/09/15 01:33 PM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: 2000SiRacer]
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sounds like ultrarunners are the first "sport" to ever have recreational drug users associated with it. How will 'they' survive. I'm so worried for the "Real" athletes \:D



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#8084721 - 02/09/15 02:28 PM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: stickaz_old]
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 Originally Posted By: zakcits
*trolling limit per thread: achieved


I was going to dive into a lengthy response until I saw this. Thanks for admitting your trolling ways

And for the record I'm completely fine with pot being in the sport. That's not my issue here.
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#8084742 - 02/09/15 02:34 PM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: 2000SiRacer]
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#8084813 - 02/09/15 03:02 PM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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I love how they quoted jenn shelton.
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#8084980 - 02/09/15 04:03 PM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: Ampsman in Extremis]
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#8085893 - 02/10/15 08:51 AM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: stickaz_old]
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I mentioned this in a previous thread, but I really enjoy Biking/Running after smoking. I'm happy to be outside, nothing hurts, I always go longer distances, etc.
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#8085909 - 02/10/15 09:00 AM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: Lewis]
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Interesting. Are we talking immediately after? No burn out?
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#8085919 - 02/10/15 09:05 AM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: Impulsive]
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Interesting. Are we talking immediately after? No burn out?

Yes, right after and no burn out for me.

It may take you a bit to get there if you have no tolerance but weed has the opposite effect on me as you'd typically think with "pothead stoners".
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#8086181 - 02/10/15 11:04 AM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: Lewis]
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sounds like that placebo effect tho, like you're actually in a field going in slow circles and falling down and you feel like you're smashing a PR at some distance

in other words: does strava data backup the idea that you're any faster? \:D
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#8086229 - 02/10/15 11:35 AM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: stickaz_old]
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 Originally Posted By: zakcits
sounds like that placebo effect tho, like you're actually in a field going in slow circles and falling down and you feel like you're smashing a PR at some distance

in other words: does strava data backup the idea that you're any faster? \:D

If you're asking me specifically, I can assure you it isn't a placebo effect and my mood/legs hurting can't exactly be measured by any data.

...But better mood + no pain = run/bike further and run/bike faster and overall enjoying it more.
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#8086622 - 02/10/15 02:47 PM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: Lewis]
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There was an article in (the now-defunct MTB mag) Switchback that talked about the perceived advantages of riding while high and basically debunked them all.

I was always baffled by the dudes I rode with who would hit the 1-hitter while on a ride break in the middle of the woods. I think I'd be even less likely to want to run while baked.
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#8086802 - 02/10/15 04:12 PM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: stickaz_old]
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 Originally Posted By: zakcits
sounds like that placebo effect tho, like you're actually in a field going in slow circles and falling down and you feel like you're smashing a PR at some distance

in other words: does strava data backup the idea that you're any faster? \:D


No one is claiming it makes you faster, the article is specific to ultra running where the "performance enhancements" they mention are related to pain management and helping you take in calories.
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#8086817 - 02/10/15 04:22 PM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: Ampsman in Extremis]
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tl;dr
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#8086900 - 02/10/15 04:44 PM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: stickaz_old]
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 Originally Posted By: zakcits
tl;dr


I think you should put that disclaimer in every one of your posts.










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#8087052 - 02/10/15 06:28 PM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: stickaz_old]
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 Originally Posted By: zakcits
sounds like that placebo effect tho, like you're actually in a field going in slow circles and falling down and you feel like you're smashing a PR at some distance

in other words: does strava data backup the idea that you're any faster? \:D
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#8089288 - 02/11/15 11:02 PM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: Euphoricuck]
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#8089351 - 02/12/15 04:41 AM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: Big Tasty]
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I think the real question here is wether or not running is a sport as op calls it!
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#8089420 - 02/12/15 08:32 AM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: Red00SI]
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 Originally Posted By: Red00SI
I think the real question here is wether or not running is a sport as op calls it!


Oh no you didn't

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#8092605 - 02/14/15 01:42 PM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: 2000SiRacer]
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http://www.ultrarunning.com/featured/marijuana-and-ultrarunning-just-keep-digging/

Great response to the WSJ article. They even call Avery out with "22 year old 'professional' runner" references. Twice \:\|

He just won Sean O'Brien 50 miler last weekend. Which sounds super impressive (and sure, it is) until you realize they added a 100K option this year and all the competitive runners did that instead. His winning time of 7:35 was 72 minutes slower than last year's winner and would've been good for 10th place. That seems to be his MO. Go dominate at races without much competition (2nd place at Sean O Brien was 45 minutes later)
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#8093453 - 02/15/15 12:54 PM Re: The Debate Over Running While High [Re: 2000SiRacer]
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Mother fucker!!

I'm told this Avery kid is a bit of a douchebag so I'll be sure to tell him what I think of this stupid idea he's propagated when I finally run into him.
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