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#8043874 - 01/13/15 01:48 PM Started my cut this week...
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Reached an average weight of 240.7 after 22 weeks on gear...

Gained about 30 pounds over that time...

Plan is to be a shredded cunt at no less than 200lbs... We'll see how it goes... I started my last prep at 214 and was shredded at just shy of 180, so I think it's possible...

I'll still continue to grow the first 8-10 weeks of this cut if my training and nutrition is on point...

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#8043883 - 01/13/15 01:50 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Oh starting cut macros are going to be 70/550/260

No cardio to start... Prolly add a few sessions next week to just get my feet wet...

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#8043949 - 01/13/15 02:33 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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What does your cutting cycle look like? And is this for a show, the beach in summertime, etc.?
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#8043954 - 01/13/15 02:34 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: 65_289]
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21 weeks is the total time i have... hopefully be in shape no later than week 18-19, and this is for a show...
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#8044033 - 01/13/15 03:19 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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#8055358 - 01/21/15 02:36 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: WNDYCTYone]
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after about 10 days on the above listed macros, i'm down 6.5lbs, and mid section is already looking better...

dat water loss...

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#8056143 - 01/22/15 12:49 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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#8062845 - 01/26/15 08:31 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: 137]
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Started this week of at 233.8... Guess is 231.5 or lower by weeks end... Knocked like 5-7g fats, 10ish carbs out of my macros this week...
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#8081284 - 02/06/15 03:32 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Hit 231.0 today... thinking I should be low 230.x by Sunday, but we shall see...

Scale didn't do much of anything first 3 days this week, but is now starting to dip again...

Likely make a macro adjustment next week to keep the ball rolling...

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#8092091 - 02/13/15 05:43 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Finally cracked 230 this morning... 229.9, hopefully it keeps rolling...

Cutting while being joocy makes it difficult to gauge progress without taking pics... Strength keeps progressing, scale doesn't really move, so likely recomping...

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#8092165 - 02/13/15 07:10 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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#8097047 - 02/17/15 08:51 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: WNDYCTYone]
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Had a decent week last week, lost 1.4 off my average and hit a low of 228.4...

Hoping to hit 227.0 later this week, and lost 1.5 off my average for the week...

Macros now at about 55/480/270... 3 cardio sessions of 350 cals...

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#8111677 - 02/28/15 01:29 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Went kinda half retard last Sunday after a 2lb increase from Saturday to Sunday on my weigh in pissed me off... ended up going up to 232.5 Monday morning...

On track to hit a new low (<227.3) by tomorrow though... my average will end up being essentially the same as last week, but if I hit a new low this week, I'll be setup for a really good week next week...

Did ZERO cardio this week... fuck cardio...

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#8111682 - 02/28/15 01:32 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Did ZERO cardio this week... fuck cardio...


I hate cardio. Lol.
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#8111686 - 02/28/15 01:34 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: WNDYCTYone]
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no joke man, cardio sucks balls...
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#8111705 - 02/28/15 01:52 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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I'm on CSi, putting off the 1.5 hour mag trainer session on my bike that I plan on doing today.
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#8112133 - 03/01/15 04:33 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: gamby]
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15 minutes on the airdyne is all you need. get yourself an assault bike and some headphones and just let your phone tell you what to do.
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#8112182 - 03/01/15 09:01 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: ]
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Pics? [No homo]...well maybe a little.
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#8112456 - 03/01/15 01:48 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Big Tasty]
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will post update pics at 225...
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#8114987 - 03/03/15 01:24 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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well i was 226.8 this morning... took a few pics for my own well being cause i still feel like a hog...


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#8116596 - 03/04/15 02:34 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Hit 226.2 this morning...

225's are right around the corner...

actually did 350 cal cardio today so 225 should be seen tomorrow...

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#8116686 - 03/04/15 03:28 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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#8117281 - 03/04/15 09:27 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: WNDYCTYone]
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#8120229 - 03/06/15 02:14 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: It's Art]
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Haven't change anything this week really but weight is just falling off...

Hit 224.2 this morning which I found very odd... my upper body training has been suffering a bit due to this injury I'm working through so i'm kinda worried I could be losing some LBM... Today could have just been an anomaly too...

I did crush legs yesterday and had a decent upper body day today and didn't feel "weak" so I'll just keep rolling for now... hopefully the injury continues to progress and I can get back to 100% training again...

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#8123373 - 03/09/15 04:30 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Had a really good week last week, and lost 2.7 off my average...

Started this week off at 225.2 and really feel I should be seeing 223's later this week...

that 224.4 weigh in was definitely an anomaly last week, as the next few weigh in's were low 225's which is about what I expected...

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#8124653 - 03/10/15 01:22 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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224.8 this morning... here's a training shot from this morning...


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#8124861 - 03/10/15 03:03 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: ]
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#8124868 - 03/10/15 03:05 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: ]
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Bro you LOOK like you juice. Dem shoulders.....

Not hating, just sayin....


well that was the goal... no point in juicing if you don't look like it... and trust me, i see PLENTY of guys hitting the sauce that still look like shit... i can't say if it's their training, diet, genetics, or bad gear, but they are obviously wasting their money...

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#8124872 - 03/10/15 03:06 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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i'm pleased with this so far... and I'm not even close to the conditioning / leanness I'd like to achieve... shit should really start coming together at 215lbs...
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#8124962 - 03/10/15 03:49 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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#8124982 - 03/10/15 04:03 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: 137]
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You're like....chiseled out of marble. Damn that sounds so gay.
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#8125003 - 03/10/15 04:16 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: 137]
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lol, Wayne #monica
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#8125026 - 03/10/15 04:29 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: WNDYCTYone]
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You're like....chiseled out of marble. Damn that sounds so gay.


heeeeyyyyyy...

srs though, wait til i get to 215... ;\)

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#8126437 - 03/11/15 02:02 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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223.7 today...
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#8126470 - 03/11/15 02:24 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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current macros are...

55f / 410c / 270p... give or take a few...

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#8128466 - 03/12/15 08:26 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Thought yesterdays 223.7 would be an anomaly, but weighed in the same today, and actually did cardio...

I feel I am behind where I was at this point last prep so I need to ratchet up the caloric deficit, and cutting out more macros right now ain't happening...

Plan is to do 4 300 calorie MISS sessions per week right now...

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#8128481 - 03/12/15 08:38 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Gross.
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#8128482 - 03/12/15 08:39 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Silock]
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cardio...? yeah i agree... :P
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#8128546 - 03/12/15 09:44 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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MISS is not fun. Easily my least favorite. Too hard to read a book, too easy to be short.
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#8128608 - 03/12/15 10:32 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Plan is to do 4 300 calorie MISS sessions per week right now...


GROCE
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#8128707 - 03/13/15 12:48 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Silock]
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MISS is not fun. Easily my least favorite. Too hard to read a book, too easy to be short.


Please elaborate on MISS. Could not find on google and I'm simply curious about what it is. \:\)
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#8129453 - 03/13/15 01:11 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: gamby]
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Medium Intesity Steady State...

Heart rate typically 75-80 of max heart rate, but I can't seem to keep my HR under 175 on the step mill...

I can do 300 cals in about 15 minutes...

223.0 this morning...

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#8129477 - 03/13/15 01:29 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Medium Intesity Steady State...



Ah, so I'm really good at that (because cycling) and didn't even know what it was called. Well, it's called "base miles" in cycling.
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#8129485 - 03/13/15 01:36 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: 137]
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Plan is to do 4 300 calorie MISS sessions per week right now...


GROCE


i can deal with an hour of cardio a week Wayne... i mean it sucks regardless, but fuck it, this way i don't have to cut macros right now...

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#8130055 - 03/14/15 01:03 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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oh miss, I was thinking liss for 300 cals. fucking booooooooring.
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#8130353 - 03/14/15 01:51 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: 137]
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weighed in at 222.8 today, and that was an hour earlier than normal...

giving myself a refeed today with 100 extra carbs, but knocking like 10 fat and 25 protons off...

Hoping i'll see 222.5 or less, but with refeeds it's always sketchy...

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#8131067 - 03/15/15 05:11 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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222.5 after that refeed... #legit

better be sub-220 by end of this week or i will be disappoint...

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#8133634 - 03/17/15 02:29 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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224.8 this morning... here's a training shot from this morning...

\:o
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#8133983 - 03/17/15 05:46 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Euphoricuck]
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just shy of 222 now... really thinking tomorrow i should be low 221.x...

Cardio is in full effect now... and I was actually able to keep my HR outta the HIIT zone today... lol...

my blood pressure is right where it should be, but my resting heart rate is very high (like low 90's)... i'm not concerned with it due to my BP being on point...

Starting a new blend of shit later this week...

100mg Test-prop
100mg Tren-ace
200mg Mast-prop
20mg Anavar

Time to get fucking NAS-T...

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#8134012 - 03/17/15 06:07 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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I forgot how tall you are. Crazy that we are probably around the same BF but you still have me by nearly 50 lbs. I can't imagine having that much more muscle mass. You're doing serious work.
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#8134019 - 03/17/15 06:10 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Silock]
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Thanks Drew... it's definitely been an eye opening experience... Glad I gave it a go, and waited as long as I did...

I would never recommend a younger person jumping on gear, but if you've essentially exhausted your natty potential and are 30+, preferably 35+, and you do your research I would say go for it...

Even on a test only cycle, you'll see a huge difference in short time, assuming you aren't getting some bunk gear... Best case scenario go see your doc, and get a script for trt... seems ereone is doing it now... lol

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#8138371 - 03/20/15 04:29 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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220.2 today... On target to hit my sub 220 goal
by end of the week...

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#8139434 - 03/22/15 09:12 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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#8139443 - 03/22/15 09:34 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: WNDYCTYone]
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Hit a low of 219.0 Saturday morning but had a refeed yesterday (loose) prolly had around 550-600 carbs and didn't do cardio yesterday...

Weight today was 220.0 but I'm down 3.0 exactly on my average this week...

Shooting for 6 cardio sessions next week and cutting macros to about 55/380/270... Should get me another 3lb loss this week...

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#8139985 - 03/22/15 09:37 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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I'd like to see if Wayne is gaining weight at the same pace
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#8140735 - 03/23/15 12:57 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: MurderHornetVR6]
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I'd like to see if Wayne is gaining weight at the same pace


Sadly still around 220, sometimes I hit a nice high of 223 but it's mostly sodium. lol
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#8140958 - 03/23/15 03:08 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: 137]
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Had 4 slices of pizza yesterday in a state of weakness and was 221.7 today IIRC... oh well, i'll be down around 217 by the end of this week... no one is perfect... #yolo
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#8144294 - 03/25/15 03:34 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Back down to 219.6 today, and feel a sub 219 tomorrow... macros on point, and a 350cal MISS session in today...

Definitely need to get to 218ish by this weekend... still fat as fuck around midsection / lower back...

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#8144308 - 03/25/15 03:36 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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So it looks like you're averaging about 1.5 lbs per week?
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#8144332 - 03/25/15 03:44 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Silock]
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lost 2.6, 2.7, 3.0 last 3 weeks...

these are based off average weigh ins for the week...

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#8144333 - 03/25/15 03:44 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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this week it's likely only going to be 1.5-1.7 on average...
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#8145050 - 03/25/15 11:16 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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I was just guessing from the 230 range to 219 from Feb 1 to now. Looks like it's probably a little more than 1.5 average. Very nice.
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#8145181 - 03/26/15 07:42 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Silock]
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Had a few 1.2-1.3 weeks and had one where I essentially stood still... Which was a real kick in the balls... Lol
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#8148258 - 03/27/15 04:54 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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219.1 today which REALLY irritated me... lol...

am going to keep cardio the same next week, but am going to cut about 40 carbs out of my daily intake...

macros will be about 55/350/270...

will drop fats to probably 45-48 the following week when my isolate arrives... right now i'm getting about 12g fat from my whey alone which is too fucking much at this point...

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#8149267 - 03/28/15 01:45 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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218.7 this morning... 500c refeed in effect, so tomorrow should be up a bit, but will be on track Sunday and should make good losses all next week... hoping to hit 215 by next Sunday...
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#8151663 - 03/30/15 03:44 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Fucking 216.6 this AM... Boom-shakalaka... LOL

Was not expecting that, but that puts me in a great position to crush this week...

Also got some new drugs in today, so shit's gonna get cray now...

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#8153421 - 03/31/15 05:19 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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updated pic at 217... last pic i posted I believe I was 224...


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#8153423 - 03/31/15 05:21 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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224 for reference...


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#8153510 - 03/31/15 06:33 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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I can't see a difference, but I guess that's a good thing.
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#8153519 - 03/31/15 06:36 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Silock]
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You can see more striations in the shoulder at 217... but it would be better to see it side by side, vs having to scroll up and down...

But I imagine there's more of difference showing in my midsection and lower body... my arms / shoulders don't carry a ton of fat, which always gives me a false sense of "i'm not that fat" when i'm bulking... lol

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#8153547 - 03/31/15 06:53 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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I know that feel bro lol
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#8156555 - 04/02/15 08:46 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Silock]
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leg update...


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#8161592 - 04/07/15 02:17 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Fucking scale ain't really moved in 8 days now... mind fuck in progress, but here's an updated photo... 217.5 AM...


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#8162557 - 04/08/15 08:27 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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#8165459 - 04/09/15 04:57 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: 98V-TeC]
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Finally got the scale moving today... 215.9 low weigh in...

Stress will fuck up your fat loss goals for sure...

Was stuck in the 217's for over a week...

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#8167249 - 04/10/15 04:51 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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delt update...

216.4 this AM...

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#8167737 - 04/11/15 08:09 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Damn dude. I want to do steroids! if they were legal. \:\(
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#8167772 - 04/11/15 09:16 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: It's Art]
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#8168194 - 04/11/15 08:03 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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#8171505 - 04/14/15 05:52 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: It's Art]
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Blew up my macros over the weekend...

Had a planned carb refeed Saturday but instead of 600, i decided 800 was better... still kept fats at 65...

Sunday I went off the reservation a bit... had like 90f and 650c...

Weight didn't do much, but definitely look "softer" or not as sharp...

Sitting at 217.9 this morning, but am back on my macros and will fucking hit 215 by end of the week or I will quit this shit...

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#8171772 - 04/14/15 10:42 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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#8171927 - 04/15/15 06:55 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Silock]
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45/350/280

Next week I'll be dropping to 40/300/280

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#8173097 - 04/15/15 06:41 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Scale moving in the right direction again... Really feel I'll hit that 215 I've bern chasing this week and will then post a shot of me at 215 at the end of my last natty bulk and how 215 looks on me now... Should be quite dramatic...
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#8176024 - 04/17/15 01:40 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Hit 215.1 this morning...

Bout fucking time... Hopefully I can maintain that loss over the next couple of days...

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#8176497 - 04/17/15 06:35 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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I demand the pics that were promised!
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#8176630 - 04/17/15 09:23 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: robbbby]
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Sunday bro...
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#8195923 - 05/03/15 06:12 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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#8196706 - 05/04/15 08:13 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: robbbby]
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Off the wagon?
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#8196823 - 05/04/15 10:00 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: MurderHornetVR6]
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#8197596 - 05/04/15 06:07 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: stickaz_old]
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Definitely fell off the wagon 2 weeks ago... Had some company paid training and I went a little berserk on the desert carys every fucking day... Went from 214 to 241 in about 6 days...

Worked my way back down to 223 and then went hog wild this weekend again and went back to 232... I'm back on the wagon again this week and hopefully can get down to 220 by the end of the week...

Still looking to cut to 210 and see how it looks...

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#8197597 - 05/04/15 06:08 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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It's crazy how the body stores water... Almost disgusting actually... I literally had pockets of water on my upper thighs that I could visually see...

Just remember bros you never lose a fat cell once you create it... It's always there and can fill up with water like nobody's business... Lol

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#8197600 - 05/04/15 06:14 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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I thought the body stopped adding fat cells in late adolescense so why would that matter? [unless i guess ginormous as a teen or something]
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#8197615 - 05/04/15 06:44 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: stickaz_old]
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 Originally Posted By: zakcits
I thought the body stopped adding fat cells in late adolescense so why would that matter? [unless i guess ginormous as a teen or something]


a fat cell can only fill with so much before the body says hey we need more storage thus you create more and store more fat and that's how you become obese. If you become a ripped kent after being a fat bastard you have the potential to blow up super fast because you've laid the groundwork.

the body will never stop producing something it needs


Edited by 137 (05/04/15 06:44 PM)
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#8197637 - 05/04/15 07:07 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: 137]
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 Quote:

Peter Arner, Professor, Department of Medicine, Huddinge, said "The total number of fat cells in the body is stable overtime, because the making of new fat cells is counterbalanced by an equally rapid break down of the already existing fat cells due to cell death."


http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/106343.php


...appears to disagree
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#8197676 - 05/04/15 07:35 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: ]
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Dude you can create fat cells at any time in life... #gtfo
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#8197678 - 05/04/15 07:36 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: ]
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how do you know it's water weight? Did you have a hydrostatic weigh-in and that was confirmed? just curious
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#8197681 - 05/04/15 07:38 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Took this this past week at 225ish...

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#8197685 - 05/04/15 07:40 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: stickaz_old]
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 Originally Posted By: zakcits
how do you know it's water weight? Did you have a hydrostatic weigh-in and that was confirmed? just curious


I didn't eat enough calories to gain 20+ lbs of fat... Of the weight I gained in that week, I'd guess 3-5 of it was fat stored... Rest is water... As you become leaner and leaner, overloading your body (especially if you're on gear) with calories is going to lead to water weight gains...

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#8197688 - 05/04/15 07:41 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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another link that nobody here will believe:
http://sciencemags.blogspot.in/2010/01/life-and-death-of-fat-cell.html

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To draw their conclusions, the researchers analyzed fat extracted from about 700 people. Here’s what they found:

• The number of fat cells grows through childhood and adolescence, but stabilizes sometime in late adolescence. After that, your fat-cell count stays the same.

• People on the fast track to obesity pack on their fat cells more quickly in childhood and stop producing them around age 16 or 17. Naturally thin people have fewer fat cells, but keep producing them until the age of 18 or 19.

• Even extreme events—for example, dramatic weight loss through surgery or super-sized weight gain—change the size of fat cells in the body, but don’t nudge the number. (That said, many experts believe years of excessive weight gain that lead to hundreds of extra pounds will eventually cause fat cells to multiply.)

• About 10 percent of your fat cells die and are replaced each year, whether you’re thin, fat, or somewhere in between.

No one knows why some people end adolescence with more fat cells than others. There’s a good case to be made that it’s hard-coded in your genes (in other words, blame mom and dad). Events during fetal development and childhood might also play a role—for example, chowing down on calorie-rich food early in life could kick off certain processes in your body, preparing it for a life of fat retention. But no matter the reason, it’s clear that some people enter adulthood set up for caloric challenges, with a big family of fat cells. They won’t necessarily gain weight more easily than a naturally lean person, but they’ll probably feel a stronger pull toward that second batch of chocolate chip cookies.

To put it another way: fat people are doing something wrong. But they’re doing it because their bodies are telling them to.


I also heard an interesting/amaze-balls story on NPR a few months ago that said a study in Europe somewhere had concluded that whether or not your father was in a calorie-restricted state in the critical years of approximately age(s) 6-8 played a demonstrable role in the tendency of his children [all of them] to be pre-disposed to being fatter than normal.

Depression era stats here were used IIRC and other famine events.
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#8217509 - 05/20/15 09:14 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: stickaz_old]
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Still "cutting" but fell the fuck off for a minute or 2...

Got down to 215, then blew back up to 241, got back down to 222 then went back to 233... lol...

Just want to eat erething lately... back on my macros this week and hoping to get back down under 225 and sustain the deficit for the next 2 weeks and get back to 215...

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#8222183 - 05/23/15 11:35 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Definitely fell off the wagon 2 weeks ago... Had some company paid training and I went a little berserk on the desert carys every fucking day... Went from 214 to 241 in about 6 days...


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#8222257 - 05/24/15 08:35 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: gamby]
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Lol, damn.
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#8231337 - 06/01/15 07:30 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: WNDYCTYone]
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Back to 241 this morning... Lol

Oh well let's try this again...


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#8231421 - 06/01/15 08:15 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Starting your cut every week? ;\)

I need to cut again, but all the food from my cruise has me reprogrammed to crave a bunch of shit.

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#8231439 - 06/01/15 08:30 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Silock]
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Word, I've been craving baked goods like a mutha-fucka... Truly is addictive apparently...
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#8231482 - 06/01/15 08:55 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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I had 3 donuts yesterday morning. And then a sleeve of Chips Ahoy last night. Diet FAIL. Time to start again.
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#8231659 - 06/01/15 11:20 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Silock]
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What them cut macros at?
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#8231918 - 06/02/15 08:09 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Agent Orange]
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Yesterday I hit ~ 60/425/300 and was down 3.8 this morning...
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#8233159 - 06/02/15 09:32 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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That's some serious fucking movement
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#8233182 - 06/02/15 09:42 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Agent Orange]
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#8233408 - 06/03/15 07:40 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Silock]
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^that...

down about another 1.5 today... figure i may even be able to crack back into the 220's by the weekend if i stay on track... holding all kindz of waterz...

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#8238703 - 06/07/15 05:40 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Started this week at 241.1, hit 230.2 this morning...

Down 10.9lbs on the week... should certainly be back in the 220's tomorrow and be on track to be back to Shreddsville by my birthday in July...

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#8238704 - 06/07/15 05:41 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Macros been steady around 60/425/300 which has made this "easy" so far...

Did like 4-5 session of MISS @ 20 minutes this week as well...

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#8247640 - 06/13/15 06:40 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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Did ZERO cardio this week to date... am at a new low for "this cut"... 228.3 today...

Hit 315 on incline bb press yesterday... has been a good week...

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#8247657 - 06/13/15 07:08 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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315 incline, damn dude.
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#8281142 - 07/08/15 09:46 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: WNDYCTYone]
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Figured I'd update this as i'm still "cutting" but yo-yo like a mother fucker...

Am currently 232 AM weight right now, looking to get to 225...

Strength is still progressing as I hit a 325 incline Friday last week, and am going to shoot for a 330 this week...

Been running a cruise dose of test (125mg e3d) for last 5 weeks so can't really complain about anything whilst on cruise dose and still gaining strength...

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#8281146 - 07/08/15 09:49 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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current pic from Friday when i hit the 325 incline...

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#8281340 - 07/08/15 11:22 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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#8321740 - 08/07/15 12:24 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: WNDYCTYone]
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well, i'm still trying to cut down to 220ish, before i blow the fuck up starting in September...

230.5 this AM... should be in 220's tomorrow, and keep rolling for the next 3 weeks... don't want to start my bulk as a fatty...

goal for bulk will be 250+, but will lay that out in a new thread...

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#8326704 - 08/12/15 12:53 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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250+ ? \:o

why?
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#8326819 - 08/12/15 02:18 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Did you do the show already and now prepping for another?
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#8327067 - 08/12/15 06:34 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
250+ ? \:o

why?


I mean if you're gonna be on gear for a bit, and you're over 6 foot, why the fuck not? I don't understand the point of even dieting down to less than 230 on gear at his height.

My boy Steve is around cory's height sitting at 270

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPnqpWCCjAo
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#8327207 - 08/12/15 10:05 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: 137]
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Staying huge sounds exhausting.
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#8330849 - 08/17/15 09:16 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Silock]
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Staying huge i think is less exhausting than getting shredded, but there's drawbacks to both, cause after awhile you get sick of shoveling calories in your mouth...

So I think I've officially decided cutting season is over for me, and it's time to get nuts and shoot for 260+ now...

I pulled 495 yesterday and have hit a 340 incline press within the last month... For not deadlifting in a long time to pull a 495 in my 2nd week back at it, I ain't even mad at that... Was a PR, so that's a great starting point for me...

Looking to destroy those numbers over the next 3-4 months...

Will make a new thread with my new training block and details of this off season...

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#8331044 - 08/17/15 11:33 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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How much has your volume gone up on gear vs. natty?
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#8331982 - 08/18/15 06:58 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Silock]
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As far as training...?

Honestly I haven't trained my training "much" aside from a bit more frequency... I've never been a high volume kinda guy...

BUT, I am about to increase my volume over the next training block, and see how that makes me progress, plus adding new drugs...

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#8332474 - 08/18/15 12:38 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: DieZel]
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why do you have to add more drugs?
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#8332794 - 08/18/15 03:40 PM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: 137]
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 Originally Posted By: 137
why do you have to add more drugs?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_DqV1xdf-Y

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#8333717 - 08/19/15 11:54 AM Re: Started my cut this week... [Re: Silock]
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different drugs Wayne... everyone responds to things differently man...
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