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#7897803 - 10/05/14 10:56 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Hatorade]
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The m37 from what I hear drives like junk vs its competition
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#7897861 - 10/06/14 12:07 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Hatorade]
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 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
 Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles
Lol, did honda kick you in the nuts and steal your lunch money or some shit? Get past the badge bs and realise that Honda/Acura is still amazing value for the money. I'll admit they fell off for a bit when it comes to design but remember, their quality and reliability are still the same. Fit and finish are very comparable and in some cases even better; they just don't rape you on the price. See: 56k for entry level BMW 320i that is worse in every way even compared to an ilx. What does the BMW offer over it for all that extra money? A bit more hp? Who gives a crap, for a fun car ya but for a daily a Volkswagen rabbit has enough power for the DVP parking lot.


Don't even bother talking about reliability, Honda today is not the same as the Honda's 10+ years ago. It's quite obvious Acura needs to be valued positioned since they offer ZERO for looks, how else are they going to get people to buy their heaps. Look at the steep discounts that Acura has to offer just to get rid their cars. I honestly don't care about badge so give me a break, I fucking DD a 1998 Civic so do you really think I care about fucking image? Listen you like the brand and that's great, but Acura/Honda has fucking dropped the ball HUGE for over a decade now. Christ the new Corolla looks much better compared to the Civic.


Lol dude nothing is the same as 10 years ago, look at Kia and Hyundai, are they the same? No, but Honda has still been dead nuts reliable. You need your eyes checked if you think they offer 0 for looks; your high if you think Chevy sedans look better, or Nissan, he'll even the 2014 3 series is questionable. acura has a few years that they fucked up the styling (the gen TL after riskys) but they corrected that, the ilx looks good, the RL looks sick, the mdx looks good, the Rdx looks decent (it's no Nissan juke) and the tlx looks wicked. Btw theres plenty of good looking cars these days, the ford fiesta, the kia optima, the Hyundai genesis , You just hatin lol

such ugly





I also saw a white ILX the other day, with the 5 spoke vossens and oem kit. car looked really good.


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#7897868 - 10/06/14 12:19 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
They are ugly doe. Titties tsx or whatever it is looks like ass


I fixed dat ugly doe. seriously I don't think my car looks mugly?



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#7897909 - 10/06/14 02:43 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: JEFFOS]
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 Originally Posted By: JEFFOS
The m37 from what I hear drives like junk vs its competition


I read the opposite, beat the Benz, bmw, and Audi in magazine comparo tests


As for towing, I'll give it up, I spend 2.5 hours a day in my car sometimes more, I just want quiet comfy.
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#7897950 - 10/06/14 07:38 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: zc911]
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I defiantly like the new TLX, wouldn't mind having it part of my fleet in the future \:\)
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#7897958 - 10/06/14 07:49 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Hatorade]
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 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
Christ the new Corolla looks much better compared to the Civic.


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#7898004 - 10/06/14 08:49 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: zc911]
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 Originally Posted By: zc911
 Originally Posted By: JEFFOS
The m37 from what I hear drives like junk vs its competition


I read the opposite, beat the Benz, bmw, and Audi in magazine comparo tests


As for towing, I'll give it up, I spend 2.5 hours a day in my car sometimes more, I just want quiet comfy.


That's how I feel. The M3 is quiet and comfy but I'm putting A LOT of kms on it. Honestly I thought the modern Jeep you have would have been quiet and comfy? Not luxury barge comfy but pretty good anyways. I was tossing around the idea of a diesel jeep.

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#7898012 - 10/06/14 08:53 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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I would ignore zc911's reasoning, it usually makes no sense. Chalk it up to automotive ADD ;\)
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#7898015 - 10/06/14 08:53 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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 Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles
 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
They are ugly doe. Titties tsx or whatever it is looks like ass


I fixed dat ugly doe. seriously I don't think my car looks mugly?





I want to like it, but it doesn't work for me, the front is especially bad \:\(

Side profile/back are decent doe. Bigger wheels would help a lot and doing something about that front end, that lip has to go imo.

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#7898023 - 10/06/14 08:57 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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 Originally Posted By: Screamin DC2R
 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
Christ the new Corolla looks much better compared to the Civic.


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Don't hate!
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#7898066 - 10/06/14 09:16 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Hatorade]
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New Corolla is has a really nice front end, but the rest is still meh. And I'm sure it's a total appliance to drive.
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#7898274 - 10/06/14 10:41 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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 Originally Posted By: 87ZCSi
 Originally Posted By: zc911
 Originally Posted By: JEFFOS
The m37 from what I hear drives like junk vs its competition


I read the opposite, beat the Benz, bmw, and Audi in magazine comparo tests


As for towing, I'll give it up, I spend 2.5 hours a day in my car sometimes more, I just want quiet comfy.




That's how I feel. The M3 is quiet and comfy but I'm putting A LOT of kms on it. Honestly I thought the modern Jeep you have would have been quiet and comfy? Not luxury barge comfy but pretty good anyways. I was tossing around the idea of a diesel jeep.


It's not terrible, I think I am just getting old. I want to be isolated from all noise for those 2.5 hours.
If you want to give it a try let me know, would be in your price range, I'd ask 19k I think
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#7898276 - 10/06/14 10:42 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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I would ignore zc911's reasoning, it usually makes no sense. Chalk it up to automotive ADD ;\)



Maybe a bit lol
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#7898328 - 10/06/14 11:08 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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no sir dont like it
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#7898537 - 10/06/14 01:08 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
Yep, new Corolla is nice...wtf?!?!!?


Compare to the previous 2 gen of Corolla, it was good looking.

The 2012-2013 Civic looks like shit, the 2014 has new tail lights and I like it.
But I would still choose a Corolla/Elantra over a Civic because insurance premium is always higher on the Civic.
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#7900013 - 10/07/14 10:12 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: iamfob]
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Did a lot of research, thinking, driving and looking at how cars wear, and I'm starting to lean TSX for a car to put lots of reliable kms on and loan out, road trips, etc.

titty you've got PM

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#7900313 - 10/07/14 12:36 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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I had an 04 manual and i really enjoyed it (minus the oil consumption issue). Stay clear of the early models and you will do fine.
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#7900331 - 10/07/14 12:44 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Big Tasty]
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Thanks for the input. I'd be doing an 09.
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#7900593 - 10/07/14 02:48 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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pm sent back, btw the auto is 10x slower than the 6spd.
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#7901747 - 10/08/14 08:31 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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DO NOT buy a land barge w/ 4 cyl + auto. The TSX isn't a small/light car (new gen). If you are going land barge and need auto you have to go with the V6. I am surprised that the new gen which is 3,400 lbs pretty much same my gen TL is even *fun* with a manual I4. I don't believe it, numbers don't add up, but I haven't driven one so I don't know. I am positive it's very uninspriing to drive doe.

How did you narrow it down to the TSX? Did you drive the IS350, which seems most fitting for you? Did you drive a TL?

Is this another one of those mid day epiphanies you had? I am going to assume you've already put a deposit on one at Faraz and associates \:\|

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#7901948 - 10/08/14 09:55 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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I drove one with the auto it seemed ok. I drove the M3 to the dealer so of course it didn't feel like a sports car but I'm not looking for that. TL is too big. I've driven the IS250 a lot and didn't like it at all, how much different can it be?

No deposits left. I'm trying to not make the wrong choice here. Since you asked, I looked at all the cars mid teen's Japanese and German.

3 series - no thanks, I'm not buying a 3rd one and it'll be too similar and inferior to my M3.

5 series - too big

c class - Drove one, hated it.

e class - drove one, hated it (LOVED it, but it's ok to borrow from my parents)

A4 - maybe.

A6 - no thank you.

Honda - nope

Acura - TSX ok size, TL too big and would be end of model year to get the price right

Nissan/Infinity - All G's I've seen don't seem to wear well.

Toyota/Lexus - really didn't like the is250 and I'm not looking to mod to make it less squishy.

Mazda - nothing for me over there.

That takes me to TSX and A4. If I'm buying for some entry level luxury and long term reliability and maintenance costs seemed like the TSX is the winner. You think I should give the IS another shot?

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#7901978 - 10/08/14 10:08 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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Dude, please drive an IS350, it's a completely different car. I know most people here hate it, but I think it fits right into what you want.

I agree TL is a large car.

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#7902052 - 10/08/14 10:34 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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Is350, change the sway bars for the f sport ones (this is a must). Done. I would lower it but you don't have to do that.

You also need to put the red precut tail light vinyl over the Orange reflectors...

Make sure you get one that has a decent number of options.
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#7902324 - 10/08/14 12:21 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: JEFFOS]
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Ok I'll go drive an is350. Jeff, if comfortable PM me what you got for yours... I'm sure it'll hurt.
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#7902690 - 10/08/14 02:32 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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DO NOT buy a land barge w/ 4 cyl + auto. The TSX isn't a small/light car (new gen). If you are going land barge and need auto you have to go with the V6. I am surprised that the new gen which is 3,400 lbs pretty much same my gen TL is even *fun* with a manual I4. I don't believe it, numbers don't add up, but I haven't driven one so I don't know. I am positive it's very uninspriing to drive doe.

How did you narrow it down to the TSX? Did you drive the IS350, which seems most fitting for you? Did you drive a TL?

Is this another one of those mid day epiphanies you had? I am going to assume you've already put a deposit on one at Faraz and associates \:\|


drive mine. you're right, its a heavy(er) car, and i think it's just slightly smaller than your car, but it really doesn't feel like it. it doesn't roll, handles nice and responsive, and the 6spd is super short. i can city drive in 6th gear, often times skipping 5th. i think alot of the weight is from the stupid big gas tank, doesn't need to be that big imo.
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#7903231 - 10/08/14 08:26 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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#7903606 - 10/09/14 07:39 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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^ Wes drive that one just to see (looks like a decent deal, comes with snows too). I don't know how different the typs S is, but it should be fun if my regular trim TL is a fun drive. I am assuming you are shying away from the TL because it's now 2 gens old?
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#7903730 - 10/09/14 08:36 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
my regular trim TL is a fun drive.
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#7903741 - 10/09/14 08:39 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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i've driven them all, the TL-S quite the fun over the base, ESPECIALLY the 6spd...it hauls ass. it's noticeable when "you're on it". if you're just puddling along, then (of course) they feel similar. granted with the S, expected worse gas mileage and possibly slightly higher service cost (but not by much unless you pop something engine related).
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#7903802 - 10/09/14 09:01 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Correct on 2 gens old. And its big. I spend a lot of time in underground parking. My place. Gf. Groceries. Movies. Bachata class. Etc.

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#7903818 - 10/09/14 09:09 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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The TL and new TSX are almost the same size, just a FYI:

Length
TL: 189.3" TSX: 185.6"

Width
TL: 72.2" TSX: 72.4"

Weight
TL: 3480 lbs TSX: 3400lbs

Yes it's 2 gens old, but they are cheaper and like you said the car will spend a lot of time in misc parking lots and getting beat up so it makes more sense. They also don't age as bad as infinitis that you are looking. Again, not trying to convince you to buy one, just saying value wise I think they are your best bet out of the stuff you've listed.

But if you want to spend at the max of your budget get the IS350.

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#7903823 - 10/09/14 09:11 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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i've driven them all, the TL-S quite the fun over the base, ESPECIALLY the 6spd...it hauls ass. it's noticeable when "you're on it". if you're just puddling along, then (of course) they feel similar. granted with the S, expected worse gas mileage and possibly slightly higher service cost (but not by much unless you pop something engine related).


30hp makes that big of a diff?

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#7903826 - 10/09/14 09:12 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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with a 6 spd. Of course.

maxin relaxin in my auto base TL. ya bro , such fun wow many feelz. Dat couch
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#7903828 - 10/09/14 09:14 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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TSX is ok in size but TL is too big?

TL is only longer by 10 cm and wider by 5 cm -- unless you're squeezing into tight spots or cutting in and out of traffic all the time; it's pretty much the same size.

This point would stand for a 3 vs. 5 series - there's a 30 cm difference and could be a deal breaker in parking into a garage of newer cookie cutter homes.

IS250 is under powered -- 350 is ok... if you're a power monger, find a used IS-F .. '08 and '09s are decently priced.


Edited by hyper-s2k (10/09/14 09:16 AM)
Edit Reason: Treed by RB on TL vs. TSX size - lol
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#7903843 - 10/09/14 09:17 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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Alright I'll go drive one. I'm sure its a nice car and being 2 gens old the value is there. Can you pm me Specs on yours vas?

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