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#7896099 - 10/04/14 08:09 AM Secondary cars and rust check
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I know a few here have a few cars, and I too am putting too many kms on my M3 so I'm looking at a nice car to take some of the load off and help keep the m3 clean for when I want it. My F150 doesnt meet this goal either. I've short listed 2007+ G35/G37 auto 4dr.

1) private sellers are out to lunch. I'm finding they want a premium over dealer pricing.
2) do people still do rust check in the fall?
3) anyone here have a lead on something interesting for sale?
4) for those who cringed when they saw my car choice- wwcsi do? Ive evaluated it all already but there's still time.

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#7896104 - 10/04/14 08:28 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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#7896110 - 10/04/14 08:51 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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I am biased, but I was in a similar position close to a year ago.

I wanted a presentable beater/dd that's reliable/comfortable/peppy/etc. I looked at a ton of cars prior to that. I didn't consider the G35/37, don't like them at all (have driven multiple variants). Narrowed it down the 3rd gen TL, initially I was set on buying Jeff's is350...but timing didn't work in my favour. I looked at a few other ones but couldn't find something I liked and then my civic died so I was in a pinch.

Anyway the TL checked off all my boxes, I am extremely happy with the car, my only complain is the rear seats don't fold down and the turning radius sucks, so parking can be a pita in tight spots. Two very small draw backs, otherwise this is an amazing car, and an amazing value on the used market.

They also look pretty good \:\)

I had it rust proofed at regs in Scarborough right after I bought it.


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#7896111 - 10/04/14 08:53 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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I've always really liked those gens of TL's... Great pickup Vas.
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#7896127 - 10/04/14 09:42 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: LNXGUY]
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Is that your TL? It looks great, I've never driven one. Did going to FWD bother you? I don't mind when it's rental cars but we've become quite the RWD family.

Turning circle matters to me, as my GF and are deeply immersed in condo life and parking sucks. Fold down seats, I honestly never considered a modern car wouldn't have that - and I just found out the G sedan doesn't either.

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#7896138 - 10/04/14 10:17 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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Yea that's mine in the midst of a shady deal by the airport.

If we have a meet I will let you drive it. The turning radius isn't the worst but compared to a regular car you really have to make wide turns into spots or to solve that issue just start backing into spots - problem solved.

The fwd doesn't bother me as it's a daily. Sure there are times when I will give it a go out of a turn and it's sadface.gif but other than that I couldn't care less.

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#7896141 - 10/04/14 10:21 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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Love that gen. TL.

Acura has nothing but shit to offer now. The TLX looks like a fucking accord and they toned down the ugly beak but then do the stupid jeweled headlights.

Wes the TL drives really nice imo. Great pick up for a used car.
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#7896144 - 10/04/14 10:23 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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Tsx would be a good contender aswell. Auto variant is kinda blah though.
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#7896146 - 10/04/14 10:28 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Big Tasty]
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It is sad how many sellers are out to lunch. Nothing but a waste of time for everyone.

You can also buy products and rust proof yourself.
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#7896288 - 10/04/14 01:26 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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#7896767 - 10/04/14 11:09 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: iamfob]
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IMO for a comfortable daily you want something comfortable, good on gas, reliable, and atleast isn't a 1996 Buick to drive; also it should be cost effective because let's face it, they get beat to shit hence why it's a daily. Vas made a great choice with the TL, that gen is wicked. I was looking at them myself but the only thing holding me back was the v6, I think I do a bit more driving than vas so I wanted the 4 banger.

I don't care what anyone says, fwd is fine, great in the winter, and if you want something sportier well that's what the emtree is for. I would look for a TL like vas, tsx, 2010 gen accord which can be had for cheap etc if you don't need a lot of room maybe a csx, it comes optioned pretty good nav, hids.


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#7896924 - 10/05/14 08:01 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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I also fall to understand driveline snobbery when most any rwd platform pushes so much out of the box that it makes no difference anyway. Plus, unless it sees track time, one would be hard pressed to reap the benefits of being able to get on the gas sooner on corner exit. I would also agree that fwd is a good choice for a dd. Efficient, easy traction and can drive well to boot. Want rotation? Trail the throttle or left foot brake. The latter arguably takes more finesse than throttle steering a rwd car on the street. I wouldn't rule out a nice fwd car. I haven't seen any mention of budget, but stuff like tsx, tl, accord seem like solid contenders. Or a Volvo (dunno howhu those are used though), or Saab or even a Subaru.
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#7896948 - 10/05/14 09:26 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 4age]
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+1 for that TL

if you go tsx, for sure avoid 2004, and even 2005 if possible tho u should be ok there. ideally the later the better. and yeah teh auto feels a bit sleepy, stick nice but if you must do auto then oh well.
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#7896955 - 10/05/14 09:45 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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 Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles
IMO for a comfortable daily you want something comfortable, good on gas, reliable, and atleast isn't a 1996 Buick to drive; also it should be cost effective because let's face it, they get beat to shit hence why it's a daily. Vas made a great choice with the TL, that gen is wicked. I was looking at them myself but the only thing holding me back was the v6, I think I do a bit more driving than vas so I wanted the 4 banger.

I don't care what anyone says, fwd is fine, great in the winter, and if you want something sportier well that's what the emtree is for. I would look for a TL like vas, tsx, 2010 gen accord which can be had for cheap etc if you don't need a lot of room maybe a csx, it comes optioned pretty good nav, hids.


It's not that bad on gas I am getting 10.5l/100km with mostly city driving. On the highway I can easily get mid to high 6l/100km. Considering side/weight I think it's pretty respectable.

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#7896957 - 10/05/14 09:49 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Wow lots of TL love. I'll check it out see if its too big or something. I don't need rwd I just prefer it. I'm used to it and like how I won't typically spin when accelerating into a corner and how it seems with my cars anyway how the front end doesn't lift as much accelerating. I'll drive a to.


20k all in is OK but don't need to spend it all either.

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#7896958 - 10/05/14 09:51 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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Titty is right on the purpose but its also got to be nice enough to make me want to drive it not have to drive it.
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#7896970 - 10/05/14 10:13 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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Drive the is350 as well, I really like them, but they aren't perfect either. Driving dynamics are kinda meh, I felt cramped inside but you won't have that issue.
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#7896987 - 10/05/14 10:48 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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Aside from power the is350 really has nothing going for it. TL all the way, has more room and less of a gas hog compared to the IS and of course the TL frives nicer. Wes find a 6spd since those came with brembo fronts and a diff...fuck what happened with honda and making cool cars.
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#7897002 - 10/05/14 11:09 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Hatorade]
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I want auto this time cause I'll use it for road tripping etc too.

Why no g love whatsoever???

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#7897075 - 10/05/14 12:19 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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G is a gas hog. I was getting high 12's with 80/20 city/hwy driving. It was not a bad car, mind you this was the coupe which I think is much much better looking compared to the sedan. That said TL is much better looking.
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#7897207 - 10/05/14 02:48 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles
IMO for a comfortable daily you want something comfortable, good on gas, reliable, and atleast isn't a 1996 Buick to drive; also it should be cost effective because let's face it, they get beat to shit hence why it's a daily. Vas made a great choice with the TL, that gen is wicked. I was looking at them myself but the only thing holding me back was the v6, I think I do a bit more driving than vas so I wanted the 4 banger.

I don't care what anyone says, fwd is fine, great in the winter, and if you want something sportier well that's what the emtree is for. I would look for a TL like vas, tsx, 2010 gen accord which can be had for cheap etc if you don't need a lot of room maybe a csx, it comes optioned pretty good nav, hids.


It's not that bad on gas I am getting 10.5l/100km with mostly city driving. On the highway I can easily get mid to high 6l/100km. Considering side/weight I think it's pretty respectable.


that's not as bad as I thought. I avg about the same highway but im in the 7's (8's if I'm in a rush or getting on it) in the city. even still you getting that with a 6 I'd call pretty damn decent.
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#7897208 - 10/05/14 02:49 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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 Originally Posted By: 87ZCSi
I want auto this time cause I'll use it for road tripping etc too.

Why no g love whatsoever???


auto TL type S with oem kit. do it nao.



most of them are available in auto, I'm trying to retro those calipers onto the TSX.
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#7897254 - 10/05/14 03:40 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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^Probably been done a million times. No diys out there ?

My shit box gets 9.1-9.5 on my rush hour commute plus weeks booting around. Highway does better. Not bad
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#7897296 - 10/05/14 04:15 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Meh, Id buy a later model Si Sedan or CSX.
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#7897418 - 10/05/14 06:08 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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 Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles
 Originally Posted By: 87ZCSi
I want auto this time cause I'll use it for road tripping etc too.

Why no g love whatsoever???


auto TL type S with oem kit. do it nao.



most of them are available in auto, I'm trying to retro those calipers onto the TSX.


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU, that's a hot car. I love the body colour vs wheel colour contrast, that's pretty much perfect imo.

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#7897583 - 10/05/14 07:52 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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What's the budget?
I am really tempted to sell the jeep and get a 2011 Infiniti m37 s
Like really really tempted



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#7897618 - 10/05/14 08:03 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Hatorade]
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Love that gen. TL.

Acura has nothing but shit to offer now. The TLX looks like a fucking accord and they toned down the ugly beak but then do the stupid jeweled headlights.

Wes the TL drives really nice imo. Great pick up for a used car.



Lol Wut? And the 3-series doesn't look like the 335i or the 5 series or the 7 series? Hell the m3 is a 3 series on roids! Same thing with audi, a4,5 and 6, Jetta and passat. And the lights look good, better than then rice led strip that audi has that has made it's way to accords and caravans across Brampton. They for sure look better than that weird inner headlights thing benz is trying to pull off right now.


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#7897665 - 10/05/14 08:53 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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Dude you are the second biggest Honda humper on this board next to Screamin lol. Current Acura's all look like bags of shit. Just when you thought they couldn't make them any uglier with that grill and then they surprise you with those fucking headlights that look like they were bought off of ebay lol.
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#7897679 - 10/05/14 09:08 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Hatorade]
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Lol, did honda kick you in the nuts and steal your lunch money or some shit? Get past the badge bs and realise that Honda/Acura is still amazing value for the money. I'll admit they fell off for a bit when it comes to design but remember, their quality and reliability are still the same. Fit and finish are very comparable and in some cases even better; they just don't rape you on the price. See: 56k for entry level BMW 320i that is worse in every way even compared to an ilx. What does the BMW offer over it for all that extra money? A bit more hp? Who gives a crap, for a fun car ya but for a daily a Volkswagen rabbit has enough power for the DVP parking lot.

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#7897720 - 10/05/14 09:40 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Hatorade]
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Dude you are the second biggest Honda humper on this board next to Screamin lol. Current Acura's all look like bags of shit. Just when you thought they couldn't make them any uglier with that grill and then they surprise you with those fucking headlights that look like they were bought off of ebay lol.


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#7897727 - 10/05/14 09:46 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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They are ugly doe. Titties tsx or whatever it is looks like ass
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#7897735 - 10/05/14 09:51 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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 Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles
Lol, did honda kick you in the nuts and steal your lunch money or some shit? Get past the badge bs and realise that Honda/Acura is still amazing value for the money. I'll admit they fell off for a bit when it comes to design but remember, their quality and reliability are still the same. Fit and finish are very comparable and in some cases even better; they just don't rape you on the price. See: 56k for entry level BMW 320i that is worse in every way even compared to an ilx. What does the BMW offer over it for all that extra money? A bit more hp? Who gives a crap, for a fun car ya but for a daily a Volkswagen rabbit has enough power for the DVP parking lot.


Don't even bother talking about reliability, Honda today is not the same as the Honda's 10+ years ago. It's quite obvious Acura needs to be valued positioned since they offer ZERO for looks, how else are they going to get people to buy their heaps. Look at the steep discounts that Acura has to offer just to get rid their cars. I honestly don't care about badge so give me a break, I fucking DD a 1998 Civic so do you really think I care about fucking image? Listen you like the brand and that's great, but Acura/Honda has fucking dropped the ball HUGE for over a decade now. Christ the new Corolla looks much better compared to the Civic.
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#7897742 - 10/05/14 10:00 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Hatorade]
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Yep, new Corolla is nice...wtf?!?!!?
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#7897745 - 10/05/14 10:04 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: zc911]
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What's the budget?
I am really tempted to sell the jeep and get a 2011 Infiniti m37 s
Like really really tempted



Max 20k all in, but rather spend less.

Really, why the m37? What about towing? I guess you've have the jeep for a while.

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#7897785 - 10/05/14 10:37 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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I saw an elderly woman driving a M37, just like the pic. I was thinking to myself wtf do you need that power lol
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#7897803 - 10/05/14 10:56 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Hatorade]
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The m37 from what I hear drives like junk vs its competition
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#7897861 - 10/06/14 12:07 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Hatorade]
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Lol, did honda kick you in the nuts and steal your lunch money or some shit? Get past the badge bs and realise that Honda/Acura is still amazing value for the money. I'll admit they fell off for a bit when it comes to design but remember, their quality and reliability are still the same. Fit and finish are very comparable and in some cases even better; they just don't rape you on the price. See: 56k for entry level BMW 320i that is worse in every way even compared to an ilx. What does the BMW offer over it for all that extra money? A bit more hp? Who gives a crap, for a fun car ya but for a daily a Volkswagen rabbit has enough power for the DVP parking lot.


Don't even bother talking about reliability, Honda today is not the same as the Honda's 10+ years ago. It's quite obvious Acura needs to be valued positioned since they offer ZERO for looks, how else are they going to get people to buy their heaps. Look at the steep discounts that Acura has to offer just to get rid their cars. I honestly don't care about badge so give me a break, I fucking DD a 1998 Civic so do you really think I care about fucking image? Listen you like the brand and that's great, but Acura/Honda has fucking dropped the ball HUGE for over a decade now. Christ the new Corolla looks much better compared to the Civic.


Lol dude nothing is the same as 10 years ago, look at Kia and Hyundai, are they the same? No, but Honda has still been dead nuts reliable. You need your eyes checked if you think they offer 0 for looks; your high if you think Chevy sedans look better, or Nissan, he'll even the 2014 3 series is questionable. acura has a few years that they fucked up the styling (the gen TL after riskys) but they corrected that, the ilx looks good, the RL looks sick, the mdx looks good, the Rdx looks decent (it's no Nissan juke) and the tlx looks wicked. Btw theres plenty of good looking cars these days, the ford fiesta, the kia optima, the Hyundai genesis , You just hatin lol

such ugly





I also saw a white ILX the other day, with the 5 spoke vossens and oem kit. car looked really good.


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#7897868 - 10/06/14 12:19 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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They are ugly doe. Titties tsx or whatever it is looks like ass


I fixed dat ugly doe. seriously I don't think my car looks mugly?



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#7897909 - 10/06/14 02:43 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: JEFFOS]
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The m37 from what I hear drives like junk vs its competition


I read the opposite, beat the Benz, bmw, and Audi in magazine comparo tests


As for towing, I'll give it up, I spend 2.5 hours a day in my car sometimes more, I just want quiet comfy.
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#7897950 - 10/06/14 07:38 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: zc911]
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I defiantly like the new TLX, wouldn't mind having it part of my fleet in the future \:\)
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#7897958 - 10/06/14 07:49 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Hatorade]
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Christ the new Corolla looks much better compared to the Civic.


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#7898004 - 10/06/14 08:49 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: zc911]
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The m37 from what I hear drives like junk vs its competition


I read the opposite, beat the Benz, bmw, and Audi in magazine comparo tests


As for towing, I'll give it up, I spend 2.5 hours a day in my car sometimes more, I just want quiet comfy.


That's how I feel. The M3 is quiet and comfy but I'm putting A LOT of kms on it. Honestly I thought the modern Jeep you have would have been quiet and comfy? Not luxury barge comfy but pretty good anyways. I was tossing around the idea of a diesel jeep.

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#7898012 - 10/06/14 08:53 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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I would ignore zc911's reasoning, it usually makes no sense. Chalk it up to automotive ADD ;\)
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#7898015 - 10/06/14 08:53 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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They are ugly doe. Titties tsx or whatever it is looks like ass


I fixed dat ugly doe. seriously I don't think my car looks mugly?





I want to like it, but it doesn't work for me, the front is especially bad \:\(

Side profile/back are decent doe. Bigger wheels would help a lot and doing something about that front end, that lip has to go imo.

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#7898023 - 10/06/14 08:57 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Christ the new Corolla looks much better compared to the Civic.


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#7898066 - 10/06/14 09:16 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Hatorade]
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New Corolla is has a really nice front end, but the rest is still meh. And I'm sure it's a total appliance to drive.
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#7898274 - 10/06/14 10:41 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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The m37 from what I hear drives like junk vs its competition


I read the opposite, beat the Benz, bmw, and Audi in magazine comparo tests


As for towing, I'll give it up, I spend 2.5 hours a day in my car sometimes more, I just want quiet comfy.




That's how I feel. The M3 is quiet and comfy but I'm putting A LOT of kms on it. Honestly I thought the modern Jeep you have would have been quiet and comfy? Not luxury barge comfy but pretty good anyways. I was tossing around the idea of a diesel jeep.


It's not terrible, I think I am just getting old. I want to be isolated from all noise for those 2.5 hours.
If you want to give it a try let me know, would be in your price range, I'd ask 19k I think
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#7898276 - 10/06/14 10:42 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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I would ignore zc911's reasoning, it usually makes no sense. Chalk it up to automotive ADD ;\)



Maybe a bit lol
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#7898328 - 10/06/14 11:08 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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no sir dont like it
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#7898537 - 10/06/14 01:08 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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Yep, new Corolla is nice...wtf?!?!!?


Compare to the previous 2 gen of Corolla, it was good looking.

The 2012-2013 Civic looks like shit, the 2014 has new tail lights and I like it.
But I would still choose a Corolla/Elantra over a Civic because insurance premium is always higher on the Civic.
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#7900013 - 10/07/14 10:12 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: iamfob]
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Did a lot of research, thinking, driving and looking at how cars wear, and I'm starting to lean TSX for a car to put lots of reliable kms on and loan out, road trips, etc.

titty you've got PM

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#7900313 - 10/07/14 12:36 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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I had an 04 manual and i really enjoyed it (minus the oil consumption issue). Stay clear of the early models and you will do fine.
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#7900331 - 10/07/14 12:44 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Big Tasty]
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Thanks for the input. I'd be doing an 09.
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#7900593 - 10/07/14 02:48 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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pm sent back, btw the auto is 10x slower than the 6spd.
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#7901747 - 10/08/14 08:31 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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DO NOT buy a land barge w/ 4 cyl + auto. The TSX isn't a small/light car (new gen). If you are going land barge and need auto you have to go with the V6. I am surprised that the new gen which is 3,400 lbs pretty much same my gen TL is even *fun* with a manual I4. I don't believe it, numbers don't add up, but I haven't driven one so I don't know. I am positive it's very uninspriing to drive doe.

How did you narrow it down to the TSX? Did you drive the IS350, which seems most fitting for you? Did you drive a TL?

Is this another one of those mid day epiphanies you had? I am going to assume you've already put a deposit on one at Faraz and associates \:\|

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#7901948 - 10/08/14 09:55 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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I drove one with the auto it seemed ok. I drove the M3 to the dealer so of course it didn't feel like a sports car but I'm not looking for that. TL is too big. I've driven the IS250 a lot and didn't like it at all, how much different can it be?

No deposits left. I'm trying to not make the wrong choice here. Since you asked, I looked at all the cars mid teen's Japanese and German.

3 series - no thanks, I'm not buying a 3rd one and it'll be too similar and inferior to my M3.

5 series - too big

c class - Drove one, hated it.

e class - drove one, hated it (LOVED it, but it's ok to borrow from my parents)

A4 - maybe.

A6 - no thank you.

Honda - nope

Acura - TSX ok size, TL too big and would be end of model year to get the price right

Nissan/Infinity - All G's I've seen don't seem to wear well.

Toyota/Lexus - really didn't like the is250 and I'm not looking to mod to make it less squishy.

Mazda - nothing for me over there.

That takes me to TSX and A4. If I'm buying for some entry level luxury and long term reliability and maintenance costs seemed like the TSX is the winner. You think I should give the IS another shot?

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#7901978 - 10/08/14 10:08 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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Dude, please drive an IS350, it's a completely different car. I know most people here hate it, but I think it fits right into what you want.

I agree TL is a large car.

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#7902052 - 10/08/14 10:34 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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Is350, change the sway bars for the f sport ones (this is a must). Done. I would lower it but you don't have to do that.

You also need to put the red precut tail light vinyl over the Orange reflectors...

Make sure you get one that has a decent number of options.
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#7902324 - 10/08/14 12:21 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: JEFFOS]
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Ok I'll go drive an is350. Jeff, if comfortable PM me what you got for yours... I'm sure it'll hurt.
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#7902690 - 10/08/14 02:32 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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DO NOT buy a land barge w/ 4 cyl + auto. The TSX isn't a small/light car (new gen). If you are going land barge and need auto you have to go with the V6. I am surprised that the new gen which is 3,400 lbs pretty much same my gen TL is even *fun* with a manual I4. I don't believe it, numbers don't add up, but I haven't driven one so I don't know. I am positive it's very uninspriing to drive doe.

How did you narrow it down to the TSX? Did you drive the IS350, which seems most fitting for you? Did you drive a TL?

Is this another one of those mid day epiphanies you had? I am going to assume you've already put a deposit on one at Faraz and associates \:\|


drive mine. you're right, its a heavy(er) car, and i think it's just slightly smaller than your car, but it really doesn't feel like it. it doesn't roll, handles nice and responsive, and the 6spd is super short. i can city drive in 6th gear, often times skipping 5th. i think alot of the weight is from the stupid big gas tank, doesn't need to be that big imo.
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#7903231 - 10/08/14 08:26 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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#7903606 - 10/09/14 07:39 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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^ Wes drive that one just to see (looks like a decent deal, comes with snows too). I don't know how different the typs S is, but it should be fun if my regular trim TL is a fun drive. I am assuming you are shying away from the TL because it's now 2 gens old?
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#7903730 - 10/09/14 08:36 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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my regular trim TL is a fun drive.
\:\|
such fun wow
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#7903741 - 10/09/14 08:39 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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i've driven them all, the TL-S quite the fun over the base, ESPECIALLY the 6spd...it hauls ass. it's noticeable when "you're on it". if you're just puddling along, then (of course) they feel similar. granted with the S, expected worse gas mileage and possibly slightly higher service cost (but not by much unless you pop something engine related).
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#7903802 - 10/09/14 09:01 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Correct on 2 gens old. And its big. I spend a lot of time in underground parking. My place. Gf. Groceries. Movies. Bachata class. Etc.

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#7903818 - 10/09/14 09:09 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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The TL and new TSX are almost the same size, just a FYI:

Length
TL: 189.3" TSX: 185.6"

Width
TL: 72.2" TSX: 72.4"

Weight
TL: 3480 lbs TSX: 3400lbs

Yes it's 2 gens old, but they are cheaper and like you said the car will spend a lot of time in misc parking lots and getting beat up so it makes more sense. They also don't age as bad as infinitis that you are looking. Again, not trying to convince you to buy one, just saying value wise I think they are your best bet out of the stuff you've listed.

But if you want to spend at the max of your budget get the IS350.

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#7903823 - 10/09/14 09:11 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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i've driven them all, the TL-S quite the fun over the base, ESPECIALLY the 6spd...it hauls ass. it's noticeable when "you're on it". if you're just puddling along, then (of course) they feel similar. granted with the S, expected worse gas mileage and possibly slightly higher service cost (but not by much unless you pop something engine related).


30hp makes that big of a diff?

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#7903826 - 10/09/14 09:12 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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with a 6 spd. Of course.

maxin relaxin in my auto base TL. ya bro , such fun wow many feelz. Dat couch
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#7903828 - 10/09/14 09:14 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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TSX is ok in size but TL is too big?

TL is only longer by 10 cm and wider by 5 cm -- unless you're squeezing into tight spots or cutting in and out of traffic all the time; it's pretty much the same size.

This point would stand for a 3 vs. 5 series - there's a 30 cm difference and could be a deal breaker in parking into a garage of newer cookie cutter homes.

IS250 is under powered -- 350 is ok... if you're a power monger, find a used IS-F .. '08 and '09s are decently priced.


Edited by hyper-s2k (10/09/14 09:16 AM)
Edit Reason: Treed by RB on TL vs. TSX size - lol
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#7903843 - 10/09/14 09:17 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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Alright I'll go drive one. I'm sure its a nice car and being 2 gens old the value is there. Can you pm me Specs on yours vas?

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#7903915 - 10/09/14 09:40 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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i've driven them all, the TL-S quite the fun over the base, ESPECIALLY the 6spd...it hauls ass. it's noticeable when "you're on it". if you're just puddling along, then (of course) they feel similar. granted with the S, expected worse gas mileage and possibly slightly higher service cost (but not by much unless you pop something engine related).


30hp makes that big of a diff?


even in this heavy of a car, fuck yeah. esp the 6spd meng.
drove them back to back couple years ago and it's noticeable.
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#7903922 - 10/09/14 09:45 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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#7903979 - 10/09/14 10:10 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: hyper-s2k]
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TSX is ok in size but TL is too big?

TL is only longer by 10 cm and wider by 5 cm -- unless you're squeezing into tight spots or cutting in and out of traffic all the time; it's pretty much the same size.

This point would stand for a 3 vs. 5 series - there's a 30 cm difference and could be a deal breaker in parking into a garage of newer cookie cutter homes.

IS250 is under powered -- 350 is ok... if you're a power monger, find a used IS-F .. '08 and '09s are decently priced.


Is350 is the fastest thing on his list by a long shot with the exception of the is-f you suggested.
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#7904060 - 10/09/14 10:53 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Huy009]
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http://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/Lexus/IS+F/ETOBICOKE/Ontario/19_8392503_/?showcpo=ShowCPO&orup=2_15_8


at 127km....it is just a baby.

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#7904344 - 10/09/14 12:54 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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dude, fuck all these opinions...i got what you need right here...

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#7904669 - 10/09/14 02:17 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Huy009]
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http://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/Lexus/IS+F/ETOBICOKE/Ontario/19_8392503_/?showcpo=ShowCPO&orup=2_15_8


Fuck that's awesome. Gotta love depreciation. I'd buy that right now!
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#7904714 - 10/09/14 02:29 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: zc911]
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http://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/Lexus/IS+F/ETOBICOKE/Ontario/19_8392503_/?showcpo=ShowCPO&orup=2_15_8


Fuck that's awesome. Gotta love depreciation. I'd buy that right now!


ummm wth? it's been around that long and it's that cheap already? horrycow! that'd be a nice pickup for the money lol...
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#7904719 - 10/09/14 02:30 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: zc911]
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 Originally Posted By: Huy009
http://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/Lexus/IS+F/ETOBICOKE/Ontario/19_8392503_/?showcpo=ShowCPO&orup=2_15_8


Fuck that's awesome. Gotta love depreciation. I'd buy that right now!


There is something fishy about that price for sure...
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#7904736 - 10/09/14 02:32 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: zc911]
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lol used IS-F as a daily? did i read that right?

5.0ltr V8 20.2 average mpg.....

and risky, there's a difference between gens,

2010 TL length: 195.5 in TSX: 185.6 in

TL width: 74.0 in TSX: 72.4 in

TL weight: 3,948 lbs (sh-awd) TSX: 3,470 lb (6spd is 70lbs lighter)

but you're right, your gen TL and the second gen tsx are about the same size/weight.


Edited by titty sprinkles (10/09/14 02:48 PM)
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#7904756 - 10/09/14 02:35 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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thats not bad doe
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#7904758 - 10/09/14 02:35 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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what are they lke to work on?

if they are anything like 90's lexus..stay far far away. although tanks in their own right when shit goes wrong(and it obviously can) they are a giant PITA to work on.
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#7904833 - 10/09/14 02:48 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Whats wrong with 90s Lexus? They've always given me the impression that they are bullet proof.

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#7904836 - 10/09/14 02:49 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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thats not bad doe


i have a buddy with one. it iz bad doe.
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#7904862 - 10/09/14 02:55 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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Whats wrong with 90s Lexus? They've always given me the impression that they are bullet proof.
of course they are "bullet proof"...but only to a certain point. Even those cars need work. and GOOD FUCKING NIGHT trying to work on them. they were not designed for that what so ever.

Im curious if that continues with models of today...
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#7904872 - 10/09/14 02:56 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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20 mpg 5.0L v8. not bad at all.
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#7904884 - 10/09/14 03:00 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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20 mpg is still 20 mpg...of premium fuel. perfect for a daily doe! op is clubsi ballin.
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#7905037 - 10/09/14 03:40 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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#7905544 - 10/09/14 07:33 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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#7905762 - 10/09/14 10:11 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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LOL no IS-F.

I really like that model of TL, I'll go drive one. Not sure I need a type-s. This one would be perfect.

http://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/Acura/TL/Bra...PO&orup=7_25_16

Maybe I'll make the drive out Tuesday after the long weekend. I appreciate all the input. I didn't realize the 08 TL was so close to the 09 TSX in size. Comfort for this car matters more to me than handling.

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#7905764 - 10/09/14 10:12 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: titty sprinkles]
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20 mpg is still 20 mpg...of premium fuel. perfect for a daily doe! op is clubsi ballin.


LOL!

And my current ride gets 15mpg.

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#7906139 - 10/10/14 08:52 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Whats wrong with 90s Lexus? They've always given me the impression that they are bullet proof.
of course they are "bullet proof"...but only to a certain point. Even those cars need work. and GOOD FUCKING NIGHT trying to work on them. they were not designed for that what so ever.

Im curious if that continues with models of today...


No problem for me. I am a wallet mechanic. Changing the light bulbs would be my extent of "working" on the car. LOL

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#7917880 - 10/17/14 08:16 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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update?

btw, saw a TLX rolling around last night, dayuuumm. I like a lot!

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#7917898 - 10/17/14 08:27 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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update?

btw, saw a TLX rolling around last night, dayuuumm. I like a lot!


it may have been one of ours lol, was driving a few of them 2wks ago for mileage...it's a nice car man. i think it went on sale about a week ago? i've seen 3-4 on the road already. looks nice in black, but there's this crazy gray colour (we have one here at the office), that's almost a matte paint but with a shine/sheen in it...very different.

the 8 and 9 spd trans's are so smooth it's nuts, the 4cyl feels like a small V6, the ride is nice too...better than RLX even lol. as for look, eih...typical 4dr lines, weird acura front but i love the rear end/lights.
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#7917902 - 10/17/14 08:30 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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I saw a black one last night at leslie/16

I also saw the rear/side profile, couldn't get to the front, maybe that's why it looked so good

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#7917909 - 10/17/14 08:34 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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lol prob. it's the usual acura front end, not that bad but same old crap. the higher trim levels have much nicer wheel/tire combos on them too.
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#7917982 - 10/17/14 09:07 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Only thing I've driven recently was a 2010 TL, wanted to see if I'd fall in love with the interior. I liked it a lot but it's too much money for a clean one with the options I want. Going out tomorrow to finally drive an 08 TL, but from all research it's looking like it'll be the car - let's see if driving it confirms that. I still struggle with the fact that I can get a TSX that's a model year newer for similar pricing but I know it's "less car".
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#7918084 - 10/17/14 09:55 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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Not sure which years had the issue but I do remember many people reporting of cracked dashboards in their TL. Something to be aware of if looking.

http://acurazine.com/forums/problems-fixes-114/cracked-dashboard-04-tl-688828/

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#7918107 - 10/17/14 10:05 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Big Tasty]
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#7918137 - 10/17/14 10:10 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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the 4cyl feels like a small V6


Doesn't that just means it feels like a 4 cylinder? XD
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#7918401 - 10/17/14 12:05 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 4age]
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the 4cyl feels like a small V6


Doesn't that just means it feels like a 4 cylinder? XD


NO! cause that'd mean it's a 5cyl then, LIKE DUH!

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#7918744 - 10/17/14 02:23 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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#7918768 - 10/17/14 02:30 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: zc911]
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they sound so good doe
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#7918787 - 10/17/14 02:39 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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#7918829 - 10/17/14 02:57 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
I saw a black one last night at leslie/16

I also saw the rear/side profile, couldn't get to the front, maybe that's why it looked so good


they look good. i got invited to some kind of TLX release party at acura north toronto with food and give aways and test drives. i'm going to go on my break and hopefully get to test drive one.

they have been for sale for the last little bit no? north toronto has a beautiful white one with nav and oem kit...hngggg. the wheels are blasted mugly tho. they are also really small inside.


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#7942905 - 11/01/14 04:26 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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update?


From way back...

Drove lots of stuff.
- a few <=08 TL's
- a few >=09 TL's
- a few TSX's
- Many is350's
- Many G37(x)'s
- a few e class' (dad was buying an on paper fits my criteria)
- a few 5 series'
- a few c class'
- a few A4's

Tried to buy a few cars in there, including one really nice is350, but we were always too far apart. Finally, bought a 2009 G37x. Black on black, premium package, navigation package, and technology package, winter and summer wheels.

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#7942911 - 11/01/14 04:32 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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#7942986 - 11/01/14 06:19 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Ewww \:\/


+1 but doesn't surprise me from op to be honest.

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#7942989 - 11/01/14 06:22 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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I think it will be a good solid daily driver
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#7942992 - 11/01/14 06:24 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: JEFFOS]
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Bang for the buck they are the best cars out there, for me it's living with the fit and finish of the car, can't do it. Is350 would've been a much better buy.
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#7943053 - 11/01/14 07:51 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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I wanted an IS but inventory is scarce and I paid about $5000 less for this than what people were wanting for IS's. I tried. I really like the G too, not sure if you guys have driven them.

Jeff, I hope so too. Need to also remember I daily an M3, this is my beater.

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#7943102 - 11/01/14 08:58 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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The IS250/350 drives like shit for its class, same shit as the c-class of that gen. NOT GOOD. G37 and TL of the same gen. are great handling cars. Good choice IMO, however it's probably just as thristy as the M3 lol
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#7943286 - 11/02/14 02:50 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Hatorade]
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however it's probably just as thristy as the M3 lol


came to post this

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#7943311 - 11/02/14 06:59 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Wildout]
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#7943445 - 11/02/14 11:26 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: spd-dmn]
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#7943449 - 11/02/14 11:37 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Hatorade]
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The IS250/350 drives like shit for its class, same shit as the c-class of that gen. NOT GOOD. G37 and TL of the same gen. are great handling cars. Good choice IMO, however it's probably just as thristy as the M3 lol


You have no idea what you are talking about, for starters lumping in the IS250 and IS350 as if it's the same car and then telling me the IS350 is a worse car in relation to a G37, lol ok man. If you are talking strictly driving the G37 does feel a bit sportier, I agree the IS350 can feel a but underwhelming in relation, but we are splitting hairs here, both are fat automatic pigs. I like the more refined IS350 feel to be honest.

The IS350 is better than a G37 in every imaginable way except price...which you get back when you sell as they have better resale anyway. Damn Lexus hater, holy crap.

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#7943452 - 11/02/14 11:42 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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I wanted an IS but inventory is scarce and I paid about $5000 less for this than what people were wanting for IS's. I tried. I really like the G too, not sure if you guys have driven them.

Jeff, I hope so too. Need to also remember I daily an M3, this is my beater.


So let's hear your opinion on all the cars you drove, just curious. Post up pics of the G.

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#7943463 - 11/02/14 11:59 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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Whats wrong with daily driving an M3? I did it for 6 years (except for winter of course)
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#7943523 - 11/02/14 12:49 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Have you seen the mpg for the v8?
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#7943592 - 11/02/14 02:04 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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maybe this beater is just to preserve the m3?
save it from winter use?
bc you sure aint saving much gas on the g37x over the m3!!!

PS, spd-dmn, 13L/100 is pretty damn good in my books XD XD XD XD XD
I'm averaging 14 ahahahaha
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#7943625 - 11/02/14 02:35 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 4age]
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maybe this beater is just to preserve the m3?
save it from winter use?


I always laugh at this logic.

Spend 25k after tax on a winter beater to preserve a 45k car. (omg my car is an investment/asset, wow warren such buffet )

wow maths, making sense.

If you can't afford to put mileage on a half a decade old m3 then you shouldn't buy it. /rant

Not saying this is OP's situation, just hatorading on stupidity in general \:D

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#7943661 - 11/02/14 02:45 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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I'll reply more from a real computer later. The M3 doesnt feel special after driving it in traffic all the time so an auto sedan has a place in my life then when I go use the M3 it'll be Clean and feel nice. Fuelly and fueleconomy.gov says I'll get a 20-25% increase in economy. Also I'm not sure I ever said that was an issue. I have made comments but not sure I ever said it was breaking me.
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#7943667 - 11/02/14 02:47 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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I'll reply more from a real computer later. The M3 doesnt feel special after driving it in traffic all the time so an auto sedan has a place in my life then when I go use the M3 it'll be Clean and feel nice. Fuelly and fueleconomy.gov says I'll get a 20-25% increase in economy. Also I'm not sure I ever said that was an issue. I have made comments but not sure I ever said it was breaking me.



Perfectly reasonable, I don't like driving my m3 in regular conditions at all, it's a fucking drag to be honest. Would much rather chill in a luxury automatic pig \:D

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#7943738 - 11/02/14 03:35 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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#7943739 - 11/02/14 03:36 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 4age]
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I'm averaging 14 ahahahaha
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#7943805 - 11/02/14 04:39 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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I average 14-17 in the M3
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#7943899 - 11/02/14 06:01 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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I'm still waiting to drive that M3.

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#7944019 - 11/02/14 08:25 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
 Originally Posted By: 4age
maybe this beater is just to preserve the m3?
save it from winter use?


I always laugh at this logic.

Spend 25k after tax on a winter beater to preserve a 45k car. (omg my car is an investment/asset, wow warren such buffet )

wow maths, making sense.

If you can't afford to put mileage on a half a decade old m3 then you shouldn't buy it. /rant

Not saying this is OP's situation, just hatorading on stupidity in general \:D


How much is a TL vs. a e36 m3 again?
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#7944129 - 11/02/14 10:30 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: spd-dmn]
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+1

If I am buying a new DD to preserve my MM3, it will be a car runs on regular gas, average under 9L/100 km, automatic. No way I am buying a DD that requires premium gas
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#7944262 - 11/03/14 07:30 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: iamfob]
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Check the fuel consumption!
This was after a short city jaunt XD /probablydriveslikeeuphoric


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#7944289 - 11/03/14 08:02 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 4age]
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Did the car even warm up there?
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#7944292 - 11/03/14 08:05 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: hyper-s2k]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
 Originally Posted By: 4age
maybe this beater is just to preserve the m3?
save it from winter use?


I always laugh at this logic.

Spend 25k after tax on a winter beater to preserve a 45k car. (omg my car is an investment/asset, wow warren such buffet )

wow maths, making sense.

If you can't afford to put mileage on a half a decade old m3 then you shouldn't buy it. /rant

Not saying this is OP's situation, just hatorading on stupidity in general \:D


How much is a TL vs. a e36 m3 again?


TL is like $250, M3 is basically scrap metal.

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#7944314 - 11/03/14 08:16 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Did the car even warm up there?


I always warm up the car. Even if I make a short trip (say 3km away), I drive around for 15 minutes prior + let it idle at cold start for around 30 sec before finishing my trip. At the very minimum, I want oil to get to operating temp.

So to answer your question, yes XD That pic is after a half hour of driving in 10 degree weather. The car is just baad in the city. That # is like all time fuel consumption doe. With track in there
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#7944345 - 11/03/14 08:34 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 4age]
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just normal driving or ripping it all over?

thats crazy for a new "efficient" v6.
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#7944363 - 11/03/14 08:48 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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#7944421 - 11/03/14 09:33 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Whats wrong with daily driving an M3? I did it for 6 years (except for winter of course)


Nothing at all, and I never complained about economy either. I love daily driving it but traffic sucks so I'll admit an auto is nice from time to time. Also I take road trips so 2000-3000kms in the M3 for a weekend just doesn't make sense. Further, GF won't drive the M3 so unless we take her car (which doesn't have cruise FWIW) I'm doing all the driving. Also I like the M3, A LOT, and I've put 13000kms on it in 6 months, 2.5 of which I've been out of the country. I'd rather it not have 200k on it before I know it. Further, rod bearings are getting done in March, I want to do them myself and just don't have the time or resources now. Besides, I can, so why not.

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#7944446 - 11/03/14 09:47 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Risky Business]
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So let's hear your opinion on all the cars you drove, just curious. Post up pics of the G.


No pics available as of yet. To be honest I can see the deal falling through. I'll post about that once I know for sure.

Disclaimer - results and opinions may not be typical, these are based off the samples I had access to within my budget.

<=08 TL's - nice car, would have to do timing belts on all that I had seen, drove type-s and non, liked them both but the drive was a little harsh for what I wanted. Kept in back of my mind it's a FWD.

>=09 TL's - really nice car, but, tooooo big. Turn around and look at back seat passengers it was like I was in a town car. Also, hard to get with all the packages I wanted in my price.

TSX's - I liked this, but, it's very entry level luxury car, which is fine. Resale is quite high on these.

is350's - most were BEATTTTTTT. The paint must be as thin as a piece of paper. interiors seemed to hold up alright though. I liked the drive however I'd drive two back to back and seats would feel different. Road noise too but that was the tires. I tried to buy one of these but we were too far apart.

G37(x)'s - had that substantial luxurious feel. Lots of amenities. Only offering here (I believe) with intelligent cruise. Easy to find with decent features. Paint isn't awesome on these either but compared to the IS's it was awesome. AWD is nice. The one I bought comes with winter and summers.

e class' - nice to drive but I'm just not old enough for this. I drove an 08 E300 to buy the G37x actually.

5 series' - too big, and honestly compared to the M3 the materials in other BMW's in my price range were not the premium packages so I didn't want a car that's so similar but offering an inferior experience.

c class' - felt small, cramped, econo box ish, expensive, vinyl? Really?

<09 A4's - See c class but inexpensive.


One thing I did notice is that as cars were aging people were skimping out on matching tires, rotors with pads (>2 sets of pads / rotor with huge lips), cheap noisy tires, etc.

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#7944578 - 11/03/14 10:30 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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chinese tires are way too common these days
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#7944645 - 11/03/14 10:58 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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I've got Sailun's on the F150 and they've been ok but it's a beater truck and it came with them. The Sailun's that came on the E300 are pretty good but they're brand new.
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#7944759 - 11/03/14 11:51 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
Faaaacck! Even my 5500lb beast isn't that bad on diesel


waiiiiiiiit.
first, your 5500lb beast is diesel XD
Second, my 18.8l/100 is all time. So that includes lapping days. My real mpg is around 13l/100 per tank. 13 to 14. I drive mainly city doe, and I beat on it after all temps are nominal \:D
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#7944762 - 11/03/14 11:53 AM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 4age]
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87zcsi, u found 5 series to be inferior in experience to m3 even in the interior? which gen 5 did u test? The 5s seem quite nice in the interior imo. the leather is better, and the trim/switch gear in general are nicer.

......or maybe it's bc i am comparing m5 to m3. m5 is nicer inside fo sho (e60 m5 vs e90 m3)
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#7944920 - 11/03/14 01:15 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 4age]
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I believe it's cause you're comparing M's. The ones in my budget were leatherette.
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#7945027 - 11/03/14 01:59 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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leatherette is bauce































































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#7945153 - 11/03/14 02:48 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
leatherette is bauce


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5QErPDNcj4

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#7945181 - 11/03/14 02:55 PM Re: Secondary cars and rust check [Re: 87ZCSi]
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 Originally Posted By: 87ZCSi
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So let's hear your opinion on all the cars you drove, just curious. Post up pics of the G.


One thing I did notice is that as cars were aging people were skimping out on matching tires, rotors with pads (>2 sets of pads / rotor with huge lips), cheap noisy tires, etc.


This was the biggest eye opener when I worked for auto trader. The older the luxury car, the more ways people found to cut corners on maintenance and safety issues.

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