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#7865641 - 09/15/14 12:26 PM Small Hardwood install project - school a newb
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Wife is bugging me to finish the stairs project I did earlier. Just need to have some hardwood installed on the top landing to replace the carpet that's currently there. I'm going to use some of the extra boards from the main floor install so want to keep this as inexpensive as possible.

Watching this vid it looks pretty straight forward, especially for a stair landing that would take maybe 9 boards max plus the stair nose.
http://www.homedepot.ca/know-how/videos/how-to-install-hardwood-flooring

So a few questions:
1. Could I take the boards somewhere to have them pre-cut? Would only be probably 4 full length boards cut to size so would be nice if I don't have to rent and haul a table saw back and forth.

2. Flooring on main floor runs north/south but looks like I would have to run these boards east/west to have the stair nose fit the grooves. Yes/No?

3. Easy enough just to hammer the few boards without a nail gun? Should I glue?

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#7865785 - 09/15/14 01:04 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: Big Tasty]
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I have no idea what you are trying to do based on your description, post up some pics.
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#7865859 - 09/15/14 01:18 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: Risky Business]
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If I ran the boards on the stair landing in the same direction as the floor board downstairs, it would look kinda like this (assume the horizontal board in the first pic is the stair nose.



vs matching the direction of the stair nose to fit the grooves like this:


Edited by Big Tasty (09/15/14 01:24 PM)

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#7865860 - 09/15/14 01:18 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: Risky Business]
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#7865923 - 09/15/14 01:32 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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I didn't take a final pic by you get the idea of what it looks like now





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#7865935 - 09/15/14 01:34 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: Big Tasty]
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Holy fuuuuuk... Did you sand/paint all those spindles?

Edited by FurBalls (09/15/14 01:34 PM)

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#7865946 - 09/15/14 01:36 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: furball]
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yup, and the railing on the 2nd floor too....never again!
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#7866023 - 09/15/14 02:04 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: Big Tasty]
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cant tell on the screen.

are the steps/rails painted black or stained? did you cap the steps or did you just paint the steps?
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#7866034 - 09/15/14 02:07 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: c2k]
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Painted, why would he primer over them if he was staining \:\| ?

OP, I am not hardwood floor pro and when I did my floors at home I talked to a lot of people/read books/watched vids, there is some conflicting information and it was 2 years ago+ that I did this work.

What you are proposing to do is common/doable, I don't think there is an issue, IIRC you don't want to gluing planks down, in my case I did the main plank row butting up to the stair nosing (that's what all installers told me to do).

In your case since you want to install the planks perpendicular to the nosing I don't think you need glue, stapling them will be fine imo.

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#7866047 - 09/15/14 02:11 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: c2k]
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Painted a very dark brown, the steps were rounded at the ends so didn't see a need to do anything more to them than sand/prime/paint.
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#7866056 - 09/15/14 02:14 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: Big Tasty]
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Make sure to put some underlayment underneath that landing, and that the thickness of the hardwood sits flush. If it doesn't, you'll have to get a table saw/mitre saw and cut the edge pieces at an angle...

(Hardwood installer had to do that for my landing)

re: stapling, I think they stapled as much as they could, then the last piece was stapled straight through (i.e. you can see a nail head or 2...)


Edited by FurBalls (09/15/14 02:15 PM)

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#7866060 - 09/15/14 02:16 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: furball]
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Make sure to put some underlayment underneath that landing, and that the thickness of the hardwood sits flush. If it doesn't, you'll have to get a table saw/mitre saw and cut the edge pieces at an angle...

(Hardwood installer had to do that for my landing)

re: stapling, I think they stapled as much as they could, then the last piece was stapled straight through (i.e. you can see a nail head or 2...)


Hey bro, water is wet!!!

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#7866070 - 09/15/14 02:23 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: Risky Business]
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Hey bro, water is wet!!!


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#7866093 - 09/15/14 02:30 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: Risky Business]
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Painted, why would he primer over them if he was staining \:\| ?



hence - can't tell on the screen with the cracked screen on my s4 \:\(

but thanks for your help.

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#7866123 - 09/15/14 02:37 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: c2k]
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Painted, why would he primer over them if he was staining \:\| ?



hence - can't tell on the screen with the cracked screen on my s4 \:\(

but thanks for your help.



There is a picture of bare steps followed by primered steps, and you didn't see that because your screen is cracked? \:\|

okay, furball v2.

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#7866156 - 09/15/14 02:52 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: Risky Business]
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Painted, why would he primer over them if he was staining \:\| ?



hence - can't tell on the screen with the cracked screen on my s4 \:\(

but thanks for your help.



There is a picture of bare steps followed by primered steps, and you didn't see that because your screen is cracked? \:\|

okay, furball v2.


I'll let you keep the expert level on phones here. Clearly you've never had to deal with a cracked screen with color change and lines everywhere?

Wow, arguing with me over MY phone that's fucked and I cant tell the color between white and brown nosing. Must be a slow day at work for you. \:\|

gtfo.
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#7866178 - 09/15/14 03:05 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: c2k]
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Painted, why would he primer over them if he was staining \:\| ?



hence - can't tell on the screen with the cracked screen on my s4 \:\(

but thanks for your help.



There is a picture of bare steps followed by primered steps, and you didn't see that because your screen is cracked? \:\|

okay, furball v2.


I'll let you keep the expert level on phones here. Clearly you've never had to deal with a cracked screen with color change and lines everywhere?

Wow, arguing with me over MY phone that's fucked and I cant tell the color between white and brown nosing. Must be a slow day at work for you. \:\|

gtfo.



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#7866185 - 09/15/14 03:08 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: c2k]
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Am I reading this wrong? Why is everything 78" long for stair nosing?

http://www.lowes.ca/search/stair-nosing.html

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#7866191 - 09/15/14 03:11 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: Big Tasty]
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Standard length, and they are EXPENSIVE. Trust me, I never knew how expensive nosing was until I went to *that* part of the store

Some home depots have a scrap bin with returned/damaged nosing pieces, in the flooring areas near the transition pieces. You can usually get those for 50%+ off.

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#7866199 - 09/15/14 03:15 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: Risky Business]
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Fuck I hope so, I don't want to spend $50+ on one piece only to then use less than half of it.
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#7868686 - 09/17/14 08:07 AM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: Big Tasty]
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update?
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#7868999 - 09/17/14 10:40 AM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: Risky Business]
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Nothing yet, haven't even had time to go by Home depot or Lowes. Maybe this weekend.
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#7869492 - 09/17/14 02:11 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: Big Tasty]
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looks good man! nice work.

shit i have so much laminite stair nosing left over from my basement.
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#7869819 - 09/17/14 05:34 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: titty sprinkles]
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#7954121 - 11/08/14 10:07 AM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: hyper-s2k]
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Finally got around to doing this, took a full day off work which quickly turned into a half day off as my Director and Exec were out leaving me to answer a bunch of admin stuff.

Excuse the poor pics.

Down to bare bones



Baseboards came off without snapping, may re-use them.



Went to Rona, Lowes and home depot trying to find a finished stair noseing that would match...good to go. Asked a few about options of gluing vs nailing, they said to glue and nail the nose and then glue the rest as it is a small area. Got the glue too, a few wood flooring nails and off to do the install.

I get home and pull out the extra hardwood i had stashed in the basement. For some reason I assumed I had long boards left but not enough to do the project so will have to do more cutting then I had planned. Go back to home depot and rent a table saw.

Ok ready to go, wood is cut and roughed in how I would like it placed, I'm getting rushed now cause I have the car and will need to pick up the kids soon.

Ready to glue. Get two pumps in and.....



Well it was my father's gun and probably older than I am, well off to Canadian tire for a new one.

Get the kids, make dinner and back to work again. Got it done before their bedtime and surprised the wife when she got home.


Ya I know, I have to retouch the paint on the stairs.



All in all, not bad for my first attempt at installing hardwood but I am not quitting my day job anytime soon.

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#7954472 - 11/08/14 06:09 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: Big Tasty]
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Good job, looks decent, not too sure about the surroundings and colour matching(stairs, etc).

Looking at this, it's a nice reflection for me personally. What takes a normal person about a day is like a 45 min job for an experienced contractor. Crazy how much time it takes to do something when you've never done it.

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#7954521 - 11/08/14 07:15 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: Risky Business]
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Looks great! My stairs are gay. It's all hardwood except for the landing, which has carpet WTF
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#7954551 - 11/08/14 07:48 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: Hatorade]
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Thanks guys. The colour difference is exaggerated in the pic, it's not that much of a contrast looking at it face on. The pic above with the painter tape still on is a truer look to real life.

Ya I know what you mean Vas. I was thinking max 30 mins of cutting then install in an hour,didn't work out that way.

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#7955886 - 11/10/14 07:32 AM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: Big Tasty]
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Good job.

Lining up those 'staggered' joints ... \:\|

Is that 'the way'...?

Don't you need to lay down underlayment?


Edited by furball (11/10/14 07:32 AM)

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#7956806 - 11/10/14 03:39 PM Re: Small Hardwood install project - school a newb [Re: furball]
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even if the color doesn't match 100% it still looks a shit ton than before. good work mang.
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