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#7837921 - 08/28/14 08:22 AM S4 sees track time!
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Visited Shannonville this past Sunday in the german Camry.
It was pretty awesome--the car surpassed my every expectation. For context, I was doing a best lap time of 2:04.9 in the Boss. The S4 in stock configuration did 2:06.3. As well, fatso hooked me up with some Castrol SRF fluid on the cheap. So everyone go see him for some wicked fluid (the best I've used yet!).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viqCEFH8Ahk

The red S4 I'm chasing in the video is my buddys. His car has some awesome stuff: Bisltein PSS10, stoptech bbk, chassis reinforcements etc etc.

As expected, the greatest thing to manage with this car is understeer and keeping front tires in check. Once this car begins to push, I either maintain or reduce steering angle, and lift. Unfortunately, the rear end doesn't tend to rotate off power, so the only way the car maintains the line is through the scrubbing of the front tires. Not the fastest way, but that's what you're dealing with when you have awd, stock alignment and 55/45 weight distribution. I countered this with a lot of trail braking, and really chucking the car into the corner to get it pointed to the apex. Once the machine is pointed at the apex, you can have fun with the go-pedal. Roll onto the gas hard and the car has a mild rear steer effect at high speeds, tightening the line as you power through a corner. This is the greatest advantage of the car. As a result of the torque vectoring rear diff, one can get on power not only earlier than usual--but also much harder than usual. The action of rolling into the throttle can be much swifter with this car. It simply slingshots out of the corner and eats up the pavement really rapidly. There are a number of corners where I hit WOT the instant I'm pointed to the apex. These corners were turn 4 (the moss carousel exit), turn 5, turn 11 & 12.

Brakes actually have better initial bite than the Boss did, and less brake dive. I was more confident in being aggressive with my braking and really compressing my braking zones--despite the car being 4000lbs and hitting 180 down the back straight (per my lap timer), I'm hitting the brakes at the 75 ft mark.

Coles notes: surprisingly fast. Expected entry understeer. Exit is where the car shines. Sport diff is worth it. Lots of lap traffic, excuse my cursing XD
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#7837927 - 08/28/14 08:26 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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#7837932 - 08/28/14 08:31 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Hatorade]
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 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
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Pretty much. OP should have passed him.
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#7837933 - 08/28/14 08:32 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Hatorade]
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'Move people! Family sedan in the way ... coming through!'

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#7837935 - 08/28/14 08:33 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: furball]
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#7837939 - 08/28/14 08:35 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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^it's a ricoh gr son! XD XD XD
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#7837951 - 08/28/14 08:38 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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nice job man, glad u raped it...sry couldn't make it out, woulda been nice. but yeah sounds about right re. your description of the car on track...and yeah how the red ones isn't quicker is funny.
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#7837986 - 08/28/14 08:54 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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You're so angry!
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#7838221 - 08/28/14 11:03 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: fatso]
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^ya dudes expect you to pass in braking zones through their blind spots on corner entry. okkkkkkk @_@

I'm sure your track days are way more organized. kpg is always a cluster XD
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#7838238 - 08/28/14 11:14 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: fatso]
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rio ap2 CR in the end.. did you get him?

nice drvin
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#7838258 - 08/28/14 11:24 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: f22b-dohc]
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He let me by at the end of the vid. I only cut it out bc I made a stupid sound as i looked at my lap timer and saw 2:06 XD XD XD
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#7838300 - 08/28/14 11:43 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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I think we could have a good battttleeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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#7838306 - 08/28/14 11:45 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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You can battle risky. same cars.
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#7838310 - 08/28/14 11:46 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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 Originally Posted By: 4age
You can battle risky. same cars.


Can't. Risky doesn't have insurance on it.
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#7838331 - 08/28/14 11:55 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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 Originally Posted By: 4age
You can battle risky. same cars.
lame
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#7838347 - 08/28/14 12:01 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Wut!
You want to battle me too?
I thought you two were a married couple XD Go bicker with him! XD

We can have some fun out there. Did you get to time your last few sessions on the new rubber? I think yeeeeeees \:D
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#7838378 - 08/28/14 12:12 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Hatorade]
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 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
 Originally Posted By: 4age
You can battle risky. same cars.


Can't. Risky doesn't have insurance on it.


hence the term hard parker.
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#7838379 - 08/28/14 12:13 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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only had some early laps in the dry. then it got wet. very wet.

was pretty close to your time ;\)
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#7838392 - 08/28/14 12:16 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric


was pretty close to your time ;\)


OHHHHHHHHHH SUNDAY IS GOING TO BE EXCITING!
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#7838396 - 08/28/14 12:17 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
I think we could have a good battttleeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


Bring the wagon and we'll race for pinks
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#7838411 - 08/28/14 12:22 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: LNXGUY]
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i pass anywhere, dummies don't move the fuck over when they should. will be on their ass in turns, then out-accel me and same shit repeats losers
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#7838425 - 08/28/14 12:25 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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the real question here is , what did eddie run in his miata when/if that ever happened?
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#7838441 - 08/28/14 12:31 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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i pass anywhere, dummies don't move the fuck over when they should. will be on their ass in turns, then out-accel me and same shit repeats losers


Yeah. That would be smart if you know that these guys knew what they were doing out there and were fully aware of their surroundings. I aint putting myself or other drivers in that level of risk. Call me spoiled, but pfaff days are way better XD Track is clear for clean laps to boot XD
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#7838509 - 08/28/14 12:57 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
the real question here is , what did eddie run in his miata when/if that ever happened?
Never ran the long track with the S/C.

2:13ish on the 1.6 motor and decade-old RA1s.

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#7838540 - 08/28/14 01:08 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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#7838541 - 08/28/14 01:08 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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 Originally Posted By: eddie _82
 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
the real question here is , what did eddie run in his miata when/if that ever happened?
Never ran the long track with the S/C.

2:13ish on the 1.6 motor and decade-old RA1s.


That's pretty damn good, considering that the tires were probably worse off than all seasons XD
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#7838694 - 08/28/14 02:25 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
 Originally Posted By: 4age
You can battle risky. same cars.
lame


i'd donate 5 bucks to make that happen.
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#7838738 - 08/28/14 02:45 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: f22b-dohc]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
 Originally Posted By: 4age
You can battle risky. same cars.
lame


i'd donate 5 bucks to make that happen.


Secret tip: Risky is going to the next one
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#7839005 - 08/28/14 05:34 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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won't repeat what i wrote to you before.

surprised to see the mods list on your buddy's car; fuck that's pretty bad.

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#7852403 - 09/07/14 09:46 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: f22b-dohc]
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 Originally Posted By: f22b-dohc
 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
 Originally Posted By: 4age
You can battle risky. same cars.
lame


i'd donate 5 bucks to make that happen.


Battle happened, I ran off the track and lost a center cap as Euphoric was breathing up my ass

This track is perfect for the M3, made me fall in love with the car all over again. It has been a while that i've driven something this fun Back to indefinite storage it goes \:\(

I only timed one lap, was a few seconds behind 4 age's time. Not sure what my fastest lap was doe. Euphoric was faster than me, his car is setup pretty badass overall + mad skillz


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#7852443 - 09/07/14 10:46 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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4age is running on dead tires...so you are more like minutes behind LOL
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#7852518 - 09/08/14 06:46 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Hatorade]
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whoa, whoa, whoa!
Where are da videos!
Glad you had fun. Please come out next year! Sorry I wasn't able to make it T_T

What was the resulting lap time? You must've rocked it! Wut dat offroading do
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#7852565 - 09/08/14 08:00 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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I could only do 3 laps at a time because my rear tires were smoking the whole way. A few issues, I had my ABS disconnected and everytime I'd come to a hard stop my rears would lock up, so that slowed me down on certain turns and I couldn't really afford to brake mid turn \:\| . Lesson learned, apparently driving these cars without ABS is a huge PITA, confirmed by off roading ;\) First time on this track in 10 years, had to re learn errrthang.

As far as hator, I am running missmatched and bald tires too that are flat spotted, you mad?

Time was 2:11.8 or something like that, again I only timed one lap. I wonder how Euphoric did.

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#7852570 - 09/08/14 08:03 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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I need to do a square setup and plug in ABS, i think that would transform the car.
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#7852579 - 09/08/14 08:12 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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PRO. 2:11.8 in a broken car, with 10 year hiatus is a solid lap time.
FWIW I also ran no abs in my e36. Didn't bother me, and no lock up issues. But I didn't run drag radials on a road course WTF.
U CRAY. Hahaha!

BTW just saw your video. That was insane HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. It's like you made your own track. You didn't care for the pavement. Grass rally.
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