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#7837921 - 08/28/14 08:22 AM S4 sees track time!
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Visited Shannonville this past Sunday in the german Camry.
It was pretty awesome--the car surpassed my every expectation. For context, I was doing a best lap time of 2:04.9 in the Boss. The S4 in stock configuration did 2:06.3. As well, fatso hooked me up with some Castrol SRF fluid on the cheap. So everyone go see him for some wicked fluid (the best I've used yet!).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viqCEFH8Ahk

The red S4 I'm chasing in the video is my buddys. His car has some awesome stuff: Bisltein PSS10, stoptech bbk, chassis reinforcements etc etc.

As expected, the greatest thing to manage with this car is understeer and keeping front tires in check. Once this car begins to push, I either maintain or reduce steering angle, and lift. Unfortunately, the rear end doesn't tend to rotate off power, so the only way the car maintains the line is through the scrubbing of the front tires. Not the fastest way, but that's what you're dealing with when you have awd, stock alignment and 55/45 weight distribution. I countered this with a lot of trail braking, and really chucking the car into the corner to get it pointed to the apex. Once the machine is pointed at the apex, you can have fun with the go-pedal. Roll onto the gas hard and the car has a mild rear steer effect at high speeds, tightening the line as you power through a corner. This is the greatest advantage of the car. As a result of the torque vectoring rear diff, one can get on power not only earlier than usual--but also much harder than usual. The action of rolling into the throttle can be much swifter with this car. It simply slingshots out of the corner and eats up the pavement really rapidly. There are a number of corners where I hit WOT the instant I'm pointed to the apex. These corners were turn 4 (the moss carousel exit), turn 5, turn 11 & 12.

Brakes actually have better initial bite than the Boss did, and less brake dive. I was more confident in being aggressive with my braking and really compressing my braking zones--despite the car being 4000lbs and hitting 180 down the back straight (per my lap timer), I'm hitting the brakes at the 75 ft mark.

Coles notes: surprisingly fast. Expected entry understeer. Exit is where the car shines. Sport diff is worth it. Lots of lap traffic, excuse my cursing XD
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#7837927 - 08/28/14 08:26 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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#7837932 - 08/28/14 08:31 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Hatorade]
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Pretty much. OP should have passed him.
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#7837933 - 08/28/14 08:32 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Hatorade]
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#7837935 - 08/28/14 08:33 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: furball]
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#7837939 - 08/28/14 08:35 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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#7837951 - 08/28/14 08:38 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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nice job man, glad u raped it...sry couldn't make it out, woulda been nice. but yeah sounds about right re. your description of the car on track...and yeah how the red ones isn't quicker is funny.
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#7837986 - 08/28/14 08:54 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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#7838221 - 08/28/14 11:03 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: fatso]
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^ya dudes expect you to pass in braking zones through their blind spots on corner entry. okkkkkkk @_@

I'm sure your track days are way more organized. kpg is always a cluster XD
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#7838238 - 08/28/14 11:14 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: fatso]
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rio ap2 CR in the end.. did you get him?

nice drvin
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#7838258 - 08/28/14 11:24 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: f22b-dohc]
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He let me by at the end of the vid. I only cut it out bc I made a stupid sound as i looked at my lap timer and saw 2:06 XD XD XD
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#7838300 - 08/28/14 11:43 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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I think we could have a good battttleeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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#7838306 - 08/28/14 11:45 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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You can battle risky. same cars.
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#7838310 - 08/28/14 11:46 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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 Originally Posted By: 4age
You can battle risky. same cars.


Can't. Risky doesn't have insurance on it.
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#7838331 - 08/28/14 11:55 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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 Originally Posted By: 4age
You can battle risky. same cars.
lame
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#7838347 - 08/28/14 12:01 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Wut!
You want to battle me too?
I thought you two were a married couple XD Go bicker with him! XD

We can have some fun out there. Did you get to time your last few sessions on the new rubber? I think yeeeeeees \:D
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#7838378 - 08/28/14 12:12 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Hatorade]
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 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
 Originally Posted By: 4age
You can battle risky. same cars.


Can't. Risky doesn't have insurance on it.


hence the term hard parker.
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#7838379 - 08/28/14 12:13 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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only had some early laps in the dry. then it got wet. very wet.

was pretty close to your time ;\)
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#7838392 - 08/28/14 12:16 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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was pretty close to your time ;\)


OHHHHHHHHHH SUNDAY IS GOING TO BE EXCITING!
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#7838396 - 08/28/14 12:17 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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I think we could have a good battttleeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


Bring the wagon and we'll race for pinks
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#7838411 - 08/28/14 12:22 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: LNXGUY]
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i pass anywhere, dummies don't move the fuck over when they should. will be on their ass in turns, then out-accel me and same shit repeats losers
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#7838425 - 08/28/14 12:25 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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the real question here is , what did eddie run in his miata when/if that ever happened?
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#7838441 - 08/28/14 12:31 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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i pass anywhere, dummies don't move the fuck over when they should. will be on their ass in turns, then out-accel me and same shit repeats losers


Yeah. That would be smart if you know that these guys knew what they were doing out there and were fully aware of their surroundings. I aint putting myself or other drivers in that level of risk. Call me spoiled, but pfaff days are way better XD Track is clear for clean laps to boot XD
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#7838509 - 08/28/14 12:57 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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the real question here is , what did eddie run in his miata when/if that ever happened?
Never ran the long track with the S/C.

2:13ish on the 1.6 motor and decade-old RA1s.

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#7838540 - 08/28/14 01:08 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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#7838541 - 08/28/14 01:08 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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the real question here is , what did eddie run in his miata when/if that ever happened?
Never ran the long track with the S/C.

2:13ish on the 1.6 motor and decade-old RA1s.


That's pretty damn good, considering that the tires were probably worse off than all seasons XD
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#7838694 - 08/28/14 02:25 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: 4age
You can battle risky. same cars.
lame


i'd donate 5 bucks to make that happen.
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#7838738 - 08/28/14 02:45 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: f22b-dohc]
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 Originally Posted By: 4age
You can battle risky. same cars.
lame


i'd donate 5 bucks to make that happen.


Secret tip: Risky is going to the next one
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#7839005 - 08/28/14 05:34 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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won't repeat what i wrote to you before.

surprised to see the mods list on your buddy's car; fuck that's pretty bad.

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#7852403 - 09/07/14 09:46 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: f22b-dohc]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
 Originally Posted By: 4age
You can battle risky. same cars.
lame


i'd donate 5 bucks to make that happen.


Battle happened, I ran off the track and lost a center cap as Euphoric was breathing up my ass

This track is perfect for the M3, made me fall in love with the car all over again. It has been a while that i've driven something this fun Back to indefinite storage it goes \:\(

I only timed one lap, was a few seconds behind 4 age's time. Not sure what my fastest lap was doe. Euphoric was faster than me, his car is setup pretty badass overall + mad skillz


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#7852443 - 09/07/14 10:46 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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4age is running on dead tires...so you are more like minutes behind LOL
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#7852518 - 09/08/14 06:46 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Hatorade]
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whoa, whoa, whoa!
Where are da videos!
Glad you had fun. Please come out next year! Sorry I wasn't able to make it T_T

What was the resulting lap time? You must've rocked it! Wut dat offroading do
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#7852565 - 09/08/14 08:00 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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I could only do 3 laps at a time because my rear tires were smoking the whole way. A few issues, I had my ABS disconnected and everytime I'd come to a hard stop my rears would lock up, so that slowed me down on certain turns and I couldn't really afford to brake mid turn \:\| . Lesson learned, apparently driving these cars without ABS is a huge PITA, confirmed by off roading ;\) First time on this track in 10 years, had to re learn errrthang.

As far as hator, I am running missmatched and bald tires too that are flat spotted, you mad?

Time was 2:11.8 or something like that, again I only timed one lap. I wonder how Euphoric did.

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#7852570 - 09/08/14 08:03 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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I need to do a square setup and plug in ABS, i think that would transform the car.
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#7852579 - 09/08/14 08:12 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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PRO. 2:11.8 in a broken car, with 10 year hiatus is a solid lap time.
FWIW I also ran no abs in my e36. Didn't bother me, and no lock up issues. But I didn't run drag radials on a road course WTF.
U CRAY. Hahaha!

BTW just saw your video. That was insane HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. It's like you made your own track. You didn't care for the pavement. Grass rally.
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#7852628 - 09/08/14 08:50 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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nice. you guys can make sept 28th DDT day?

i think kplay is sept 7th coming up.
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#7852744 - 09/08/14 09:40 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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dat russian dash cam
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#7852749 - 09/08/14 09:44 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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#7852757 - 09/08/14 09:49 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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I got no rubber. My tires are totally done \:\(
So I won't be at ddt. sniff the new ddt looks fuuuuun
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#7852759 - 09/08/14 09:51 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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^ buy new tires baller
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#7852774 - 09/08/14 10:02 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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^ buy new tires baller


I am buying new tires -- winter tires :p
No need for summers till next year bra!
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#7852779 - 09/08/14 10:05 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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i have to start looking for winters lol. though think i'll do a nice all-Weather tire, either the hakka's or the hankook optimo 4s. can't stand full winter squishyness on the car.
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#7852797 - 09/08/14 10:14 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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i have to start looking for winters lol. though think i'll do a nice all-Weather tire, either the hakka's or the hankook optimo 4s. can't stand full winter squishyness on the car.


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#7852834 - 09/08/14 10:24 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Wildout]
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#7852850 - 09/08/14 10:27 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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^ buy new tires baller


I am buying new tires -- winter tires :p
No need for summers till next year bra!


Does that mean you are getting new wheels for next season? XD OOooOOOOoooOo

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#7852855 - 09/08/14 10:28 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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from my video footage. 2:05.xx best lap(wasnt perfect either ;\) )

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#7852857 - 09/08/14 10:29 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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bauce!
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#7852867 - 09/08/14 10:32 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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I think I have another Mosport day coming up soon, but I'd love to run Shannonville sometime. Looks like a fun track.
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#7852910 - 09/08/14 10:56 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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from my video footage. 2:05.xx best lap(wasnt perfect either ;\) )



PROOOOOOO.
WUT DAT E36 do!
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#7852988 - 09/08/14 11:48 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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gotta time my R, think im quicker in it vs the s2k i had before lol. our race car i think first was at 2:02's shanny full, then modded a bit more to get 2.00 range. i also recall a 1:58 (not me driving), forget which car/driver.

the s4 must haaauulll on the back straight.
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#7852990 - 09/08/14 11:49 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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all that practice on the streetzzz

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#7852992 - 09/08/14 11:49 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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uncle?

i think some of the taxi drivers we had in mexico woulda done well no the track here given their insane driving, and beat to shiiiit cars.


Edited by Screamin DC2R (09/08/14 11:50 AM)
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#7852998 - 09/08/14 11:55 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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all that practice on the streetzzz



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#7853041 - 09/08/14 12:22 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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gotta time my R, think im quicker in it vs the s2k i had before lol. our race car i think first was at 2:02's shanny full, then modded a bit more to get 2.00 range. i also recall a 1:58 (not me driving), forget which car/driver.

the s4 must haaauulll on the back straight.


WOW! What car was doing 1:58? Another ITR? i know of one that did 1:58. k swap, crazy gearset and final drive...cage and mega stripped out.

The S4 is actually a turtle down the back straight. Bc if it's awful understeer, it pushes slowly through the turn leading onto the straight. per my lap timer, my exit speed on that corner is a pathetic 38. Top speed on the straight is 179--and I brake around the 75ft mark. pretty slow. Boss hit like 195-200 (i could shift to 5th gear!) \:\)
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#7853074 - 09/08/14 12:37 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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no no, '12 civic with k20/mods/etc. not ITR. i know James H's ITR is wicked fast, great driver too. his team/shop is from like kitchner or something. i believe he has the fwd record at TMP now.

oh wow, for real eh? interesting...woulda guessed it would be SOMEWHAT closer to stang speed at least, but makes sense what you're saying.
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#7853077 - 09/08/14 12:39 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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gotta time my R, think im quicker in it vs the s2k i had before lol. our race car i think first was at 2:02's shanny full, then modded a bit more to get 2.00 range. i also recall a 1:58 (not me driving), forget which car/driver.

the s4 must haaauulll on the back straight.


WOW! What car was doing 1:58? Another ITR? i know of one that did 1:58. k swap, crazy gearset and final drive...cage and mega stripped out.

The S4 is actually a turtle down the back straight. Bc if it's awful understeer, it pushes slowly through the turn leading onto the straight. per my lap timer, my exit speed on that corner is a pathetic 38. Top speed on the straight is 179--and I brake around the 75ft mark. pretty slow. Boss hit like 195-200 (i could shift to 5th gear!) \:\)


Euphoric told me you brake a little past the 50 mark...I tried it yesterday and almost flipped the car entering the turn. dat late brake, dat locked up rear end, dat russian dash cam, dat drift. XD

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#7853085 - 09/08/14 12:45 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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Euphoric told me you brake a little past the 50 mark...I tried it yesterday and almost flipped the car entering the turn. dat late brake, dat locked up rear end, dat russian dash cam, dat drift. XD


ROFL!

I did brake a little past the 50 mark in the E36.
Is your rear end locking up bc they're drag radials? I never had rear end lock up issues (my E36 also had no ABS fwiw). Car is broken. Give it to me \:\)
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#7853104 - 09/08/14 12:55 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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love having a lightweight car for lapping XD

such nimble much fun

and less wear/tear on brakes/tires/etc lol

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#7853142 - 09/08/14 01:09 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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Euphoric told me you brake a little past the 50 mark...I tried it yesterday and almost flipped the car entering the turn. dat late brake, dat locked up rear end, dat russian dash cam, dat drift. XD


ROFL!

I did brake a little past the 50 mark in the E36.
Is your rear end locking up bc they're drag radials? I never had rear end lock up issues (my E36 also had no ABS fwiw). Car is broken. Give it to me \:\)


Pretty sure it's because of the disconnected ABS, seems like it's a common issue from what I've read, hence why people keep their ABS plugged. All the weight up front, hard on the brakes, no weight in the back, rear will lock before the front...ABS prevents that.

You probably didn't brake hard enough XD

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#7853168 - 09/08/14 01:19 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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drag radials are grippy doe. Anything I have ever read about abs being unhooked from these cars = bad news.

Not that wouldve prevented that new track layout construction lol plow ;\)
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#7853181 - 09/08/14 01:22 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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You probably didn't brake improperly XD


fixed XD

It's how you get on and off the pedal that counts. ;\)
Like I said, I also disconnected ABS in my E36 bc my rear speed sensor was broken. I fortunately never locked a tire. Shrug. Maybe something else is funky in your car? Maybe your drag radials are 10 years old and shouldn't be used? XD

I ran square tires too--235 front and rear.
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#7853239 - 09/08/14 01:43 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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You probably didn't brake improperly XD


fixed XD

It's how you get on and off the pedal that counts. ;\)
Like I said, I also disconnected ABS in my E36 bc my rear speed sensor was broken. I fortunately never locked a tire. Shrug. Maybe something else is funky in your car? Maybe your drag radials are 10 years old and shouldn't be used? XD

I ran square tires too--235 front and rear.


Entire brake system has been overhauled on the car from lines to pads, to calipers to rotors, sensors, etc. It's the ABS bruh, maybe you didn't have enough watts in your legs to lock up the wheels

I've seen another fool like me lock up like that at the track before, didn't really click in until Euphoric brought it up

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#7853304 - 09/08/14 02:09 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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^ you did seem to brake a bit late (depending) and even seemed to trail brake a few times.
(purposely or not)
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#7853350 - 09/08/14 02:23 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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he's butthurt, now he's calling out my lack of watts on the bike XD

My M3 had the exact same amount of overhauled components \:\)
It's how you get on and off the pedal. Not how hard you press it that matters bruh! Oh and seriously, maybe ur rear tires are too facking old compared with the fronts? or maybe i am 90 lbs and you are 900lbs, thus your front weight distribution is much greater...thus locking up rears hahaha.
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#7853394 - 09/08/14 02:42 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: 4age
You can battle risky. same cars.
lame


i'd donate 5 bucks to make that happen.


Battle happened, I ran off the track and lost a center cap as Euphoric was breathing up my ass

This track is perfect for the M3, made me fall in love with the car all over again. It has been a while that i've driven something this fun Back to indefinite storage it goes \:\(

I only timed one lap, was a few seconds behind 4 age's time. Not sure what my fastest lap was doe. Euphoric was faster than me, his car is setup pretty badass overall + mad skillz



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#7853492 - 09/08/14 03:18 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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he's butthurt, now he's calling out my lack of watts on the bike XD

My M3 had the exact same amount of overhauled components \:\)
It's how you get on and off the pedal. Not how hard you press it that matters bruh! Oh and seriously, maybe ur rear tires are too facking old compared with the fronts? or maybe i am 90 lbs and you are 900lbs, thus your front weight distribution is much greater...thus locking up rears hahaha.


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#7854374 - 09/08/14 10:24 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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Risky Business goes clubbing! - Too bad I slowed down a bit early


+ my best lap(from what I could gather from the footage)...wasnt perfect either. 3.2 vs 3.2 down the back straight.

2:05.3


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elNHXsxye9U

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#7854604 - 09/09/14 04:53 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Hahahaha risky is the best. That was amazing XD those lock ups were magnificent!!! And he drove the course in a very special way XD XD XD

Nice lap Btw. 2:05 is mad fast. I still see some time left on the table too. If it's the low 2:05s then I think u have a 2:04 in you!
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#7854641 - 09/09/14 06:52 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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the sound effects

That 2nd last turn before the front straight, I don't think there was a single time I took that in any respectable way. Kept misjudging it/going in too hot, again didn't help that euphoric was stressing me out lulz

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#7854656 - 09/09/14 07:20 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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Very cool. What's the cost on that event?
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#7854717 - 09/09/14 08:01 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 87ZCSi]
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#7854735 - 09/09/14 08:07 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Big Tasty]
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nice vid euphoric, so much lens flare it was like i was watching a jj abrams movie!
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#7854943 - 09/09/14 09:49 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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#7855020 - 09/09/14 10:27 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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#7855314 - 09/09/14 12:19 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: LNXGUY]
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sheeeeeit
(hard to get them lined up 100%)
but still interesting to see where the boss shellacs my car. POWWWAAAAAAAAAAHH

http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=ht...horName=euprhoa

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#7856214 - 09/09/14 06:26 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Risky Business goes clubbing! - Too bad I slowed down a bit early


+ my best lap(from what I could gather from the footage)...wasnt perfect either. 3.2 vs 3.2 down the back straight.

2:05.3


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elNHXsxye9U



Looks like you guys had fun. From what I remember from that same turn in the teg, in order to get enough traction at the higher speeds I had to do a quick brake while straight, turn immediately turn and full throttle in order not to spin. Trail braking was a no go for me.

Different cars though, not sure how the rwd would play out.

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#7856376 - 09/09/14 08:45 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Wildout]
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Nice driving

HADUKEN! XD lolololololololol
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#7856509 - 09/09/14 10:13 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: f22b-dohc]
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#7856516 - 09/09/14 10:23 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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a little more risky footage. + rear facing cam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls5kRm2qtgk
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#7856524 - 09/09/14 10:33 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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noice!

at first i was like, this car sounds pretty tame from the outside ... then "GO!"
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#7856525 - 09/09/14 10:34 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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#7856735 - 09/10/14 07:01 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Hatorade]
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LOL WOW! Those are some long lock ups XD
That youtubedoubler footage is cool. You definitely drive better than I did in that vid -- wut dat back reclining do!!!!!!!!!

Looking forward to next season \:D
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#7856814 - 09/10/14 07:48 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4Three]
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noice!

at first i was like, this car sounds pretty tame from the outside ... then "GO!"


Euphoric's car some has pretty nice mods, dat exhaust is hot fyra, except it's like $1200+ used if you even find it

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#7856817 - 09/10/14 07:52 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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So let me axe you this csi elite race crew.

My car is pretty much stock aside from suspension and an intake. I don't really care for going faster, but I'd like to get it buttoned down for da twistiez.

The only things I am going to do are fix the lock up issue and get tires for next year. Should I go squared or should I stay staggered? Long term going squared is cheaper as I'd go back down to a 17" rim, can rotate tires, and generally 17" tires are cheaper...or just get staggered 18" tires 225/40/18 and 255/35/18 for my current wheels. Not sure what to do, biggest issue with going squared is finding the right wheels, i'd like an OEM squared setup, which could prove expensive (buy two sets of oem wheels, sell the narrower wheels, etc). This is making me lean towards just keeping my wheels and just getting new tires and that's it.

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#7856861 - 09/10/14 08:15 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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It was that much new. + did the ebay headers($60 come at me bro.)
and messed around with the midpipe a bit. So its louder than it used to be.

thanks for the compliments. I definitely enjoy the experience of the car at wot..even if its slow in a straight line by todays standards.
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#7856862 - 09/10/14 08:16 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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just keep your wheels and get new rubber imo. They look great and you run more on the street anyways.


Shouldve done a few more laps with you on my tail. Next time!
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#7856866 - 09/10/14 08:18 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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How badly do you guys fuck up a set of tires with a single track day? I'd love to get the oilburner out there for some fun.
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#7856907 - 09/10/14 08:40 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: LNXGUY]
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How badly do you guys fuck up a set of tires with a single track day? I'd love to get the oilburner out there for some fun.


My front tires were missing chunks of tread after this and were super loud on the way home \:\|

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#7856909 - 09/10/14 08:41 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: LNXGUY]
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depends on how much you wanna push it. once you hear them start to squeal, then you know you're a the limit where you're starting to lose grip (and time) on your lap, and you're starting to kill them. once you've lapped a lot, you get to learn your car's limits...ie. i know just the point where i can make my tires last or just have edges rounded by the end of 1 lapping even (maybe 2). same goes for brake pad wear. again having a lighter car helps. you should come.

street tires will show different results vs. r-comps.
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#7857171 - 09/10/14 10:32 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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least most of you guys have enough room to lug another set of 4 tires to the track \:\(

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-tires-rims/city-o...gationFlag=true

that will be super fun
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#7858006 - 09/10/14 05:07 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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So let me axe you this csi elite race crew.

My car is pretty much stock aside from suspension and an intake. I don't really care for going faster, but I'd like to get it buttoned down for da twistiez.

The only things I am going to do are fix the lock up issue and get tires for next year. Should I go squared or should I stay staggered? Long term going squared is cheaper as I'd go back down to a 17" rim, can rotate tires, and generally 17" tires are cheaper...or just get staggered 18" tires 225/40/18 and 255/35/18 for my current wheels. Not sure what to do, biggest issue with going squared is finding the right wheels, i'd like an OEM squared setup, which could prove expensive (buy two sets of oem wheels, sell the narrower wheels, etc). This is making me lean towards just keeping my wheels and just getting new tires and that's it.

Thoughts?


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#7858010 - 09/10/14 05:08 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: LNXGUY]
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How badly do you guys fuck up a set of tires with a single track day? I'd love to get the oilburner out there for some fun.


when i had my s2k, i probably did 6 to 8 shanny days. tires weren't that fucked; was running Azenis back then.

then again i only drove that car in the dry on the roads; so kinda hard to gauge; but obviously by the 8th day they felt like hockey pucks compared to the first time i hit the track with em.

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#7858964 - 09/11/14 08:25 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Lafora]
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Boss lasted 9 lapping days - 2 mosport, 6 shannonville, 1 cayuga (wet). 1 of which was a time attack.

For E36, definitely go square. I agree with the front sway option, though I'm not sure it's needed at this point. Play with that sort of thing after you get accustomed to driving it on the track and figure out what your preferences are. FWIW I ran square (235) with stock sways + PSS9. Worked for me, though there was a lot of corner entry understeer (which the sway remedies).

Forget about the tech doe.
More seat time (with fixed brakes) will do you a whole world of good. I'd opt for that instead. You havent hit the top of what the car can deliver at this point. More driving and feeling it out at the limit will be more beneficial imo.

And I'd bet that your fronts chunked because your car was pushing, and you dialed in even more steering angle as it was pushing (a logical thing to do, but it's incorrect!). If you smooth it out, you'll find more time on the table--even with a staggered setup.
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#7858974 - 09/11/14 08:32 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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^agreed.

and lots of guys who lap tons do run a square setup on rwd cars be it s2k, m3 even miata's. but yeah the sway i did on my old s2k in front helps very much, esp with proper camber/toe setup in the rear, tho i had smaller fronts (a touch wider than stock) which was fine for me, sicne i drove daily.

and yeah, tires last awhile...you'll notice wear first 1-2 days as mentioned, but honestly i have mine (used dd) last 2 season easy (i only go 2-4 times per season).
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#7858986 - 09/11/14 08:39 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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lets be cereal. The car wont see another track day for 5 years.

Just keep your nice looking wheels.



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#7858994 - 09/11/14 08:44 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Euphoric, how do the RS3's hold up?
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i had those before the RT615k i have now, RS3's are a great tire and super sticky when hot (esp for the price). they break away quite nicely and are soft. wear though will get you quicker than other tires i found, but it still wans't THAT bad.
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#7859039 - 09/11/14 08:58 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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They seem to be ok. But I havent really given them a good look over. Car came home, went into garage and hasnt been touched. This weekend Ill have a look.
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#7859099 - 09/11/14 09:28 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Thanks for the feedback.
Just concerned about sidewall stiffness, bc I drive a 4000lb barge.
I'm rocking 37psi up front to mitigate roll over. It works, though the lack of camber is still killing it. I'm not sure how much camber I can get at stock ride height...I assume I'm lucky if I can get -2.5 \:\(
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#7859106 - 09/11/14 09:31 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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thats probably all I have if I am lucky.

havent measured tire pressure in ages. problem?
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#7859109 - 09/11/14 09:33 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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how dat audi oil burn/level doe?
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#7859110 - 09/11/14 09:35 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Euphoric - wtf XD No measuring needed. 2:05. bauce.

Screamin - zero oil consumption at any track day. is it supposed to be bad? I know the early v8's were. I have not had any issue though.

Mind you, I've already changed oil once in 3k km, so maybe i never had oil in there long enough to burn. That being said, it's for sure burning less than an E90 m3. Hatorade would know a thing or two about that. HAHA
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#7859124 - 09/11/14 09:40 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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ha yeah.

naw, i dunno how the news ones are, just curious.
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#7859531 - 09/11/14 01:51 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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And I'd bet that your fronts chunked because your car was pushing, and you dialed in even more steering angle as it was pushing (a logical thing to do, but it's incorrect!). If you smooth it out, you'll find more time on the table--even with a staggered setup.


Guilty as charged, I will be honest I did a pretty crappy job following a good line and I don't know the track at all. I've been on it twice before in my life in like 2003/2004.

I will take the advice and keep wheels, just grab tires and work on becoming smoother and not a late braking butcher

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#7859852 - 09/11/14 04:41 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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Who needs an oil change when it burns off right?
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#7859966 - 09/11/14 06:01 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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And I'd bet that your fronts chunked because your car was pushing, and you dialed in even more steering angle as it was pushing (a logical thing to do, but it's incorrect!). If you smooth it out, you'll find more time on the table--even with a staggered setup.


Guilty as charged, I will be honest I did a pretty crappy job following a good line and I don't know the track at all. I've been on it twice before in my life in like 2003/2004.

I will take the advice and keep wheels, just grab tires and work on becoming smoother and not a late braking butcher


point-and-shoot tracks like shannonville, late braking costs more time than you'd think.

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#7859981 - 09/11/14 06:14 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Lafora]
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its not like he was doing it on purpose \:\|
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#7860016 - 09/11/14 06:42 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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its not like he was doing it on purpose \:\|


True. Just watch all those russian dashcam videos on YouTube XD
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#7860318 - 09/11/14 09:39 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
its not like he was doing it on purpose \:\|


u being glued to his rear bumper didn't help

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#7860357 - 09/11/14 10:02 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Lafora]
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I was just trying to get some footage :p


What is your best time with the s2k on that circuit ?
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#7860372 - 09/11/14 10:17 PM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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don't recall exactly. been over 5 years. i THINK i have the lap sheets buried amongst my other notes in one of the binders somewhere, see if i can find the notes.

didn't have an in dash lap timer back then. so it was all by external help.

edit: if you ran 2:04, pretty damn sure u're faster than I. don't think i got south of the 5 mark. back then only 2 or 3 guys ran 1.59 or 2 flat; then there was a pack stuck in the 5s & 6s, and the rest are basically all over the place. Now i'm hearing it's pretty routine to be in the 2.01s or 2.02s. So basically in 6-7 years the average field picked up almost 3 seconds.

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#7860702 - 09/12/14 06:36 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Lafora]
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^Really fast guys are doing sub 2's in time attacks these days

Corey Whiteman, who pilots an e36 325 did 1:57 this year. Not sure what the change was, but he was still sub 2:00 last year on street tires (rivals) and stock power. Pure skill!

Another guy did 1:58 or something in his FD RX7 with a broken 3rd gear at shannonville (!!!). Beat out the china guy in the 458 scuderra on hoosiers. that guy was very displeased haha
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#7860703 - 09/12/14 06:37 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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Did you ever run mosport? Dig up the notes on that for your lap times \:\)
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#7860832 - 09/12/14 08:00 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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notes?
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#7860841 - 09/12/14 08:07 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Euphoricuck]
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notes?



/asians ;\)

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#7860928 - 09/12/14 09:08 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: Risky Business]
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notes?



/asians ;\)


lol i dunno, lafora said he had to check his notes!

I do take notes doe. for tire pressures XD
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#7860965 - 09/12/14 09:22 AM Re: S4 sees track time! [Re: 4age]
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When I asked Euphoric what pressure he is running last sunday this is the response i got, literally:


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