#7865291 - 09/15/14 10:12 AM
Re: advice sought re: 1/2 marathon [flat] in ~4 months
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dirtyS13drifta
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I'd guess you'll crack 2. LSRs are way different than race. And even if you don't crack 2, you've made great progress building up to doing that sort of distance(especially for not being a runner)
Great job man, rooting for you.
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#7865311 - 09/15/14 10:20 AM
Re: advice sought re: 1/2 marathon [flat] in ~4 months
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gamby
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How did you feel this morning? Beaten up?
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#7865350 - 09/15/14 10:35 AM
Re: advice sought re: 1/2 marathon [flat] in ~4 months
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Good job man!
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#7866054 - 09/15/14 02:14 PM
Re: advice sought re: 1/2 marathon [flat] in ~4 months
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Looks like ill make it, still have a shot at sub 2hr I guess but I'm not so sure
dude you can do sub 2 hr
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#7866324 - 09/15/14 04:19 PM
Re: advice sought re: 1/2 marathon [flat] in ~4 months
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Personally. I don't like pace groups. Your putting your race in somebody else's hands and they're notorious for doing a horrible job.
If I were you, And I really wanted that sub 2:00, then I'd set my watch to show average pace (not current) and not even look at it till it beeps at each mile (or half mile if it's capable of that). Know what your fail safe pace is, and don't go below that. Don't try to bank time, don't try to negative split. Focus on running an even, smart, and consistent race. Your first mile or three will be faster than intended, and it will feel really easy, but don't fall for thinking that will last. Ease back to that pace you decided on, focus on your form, breathing and not getting tripped up by other runners.
Congrats on a successful long run! That will be a confidence booster come race day.
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#7866550 - 09/15/14 05:53 PM
Re: advice sought re: 1/2 marathon [flat] in ~4 months
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dirtyS13drifta
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Chris's advice is spot on, even pace is considered more efficient than varying.
Hell, just time yourself, IIRC every effing mile is marked. I've never had GPS on a race. Your effort is your best guide.
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#7866573 - 09/15/14 06:09 PM
Re: advice sought re: 1/2 marathon [flat] in ~4 months
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is it really a 'varying pace' to spot myself +21s the first mile for traffic/mob start and then the next 2 a +6s to 'settle in' followed by a dead-on goal pace the next 7-8 and a slight [-9s] negative split for the final 5k-ish?
what I'm reading suggests that is the PERFECT way to PR an ET
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#7866637 - 09/15/14 06:52 PM
Re: advice sought re: 1/2 marathon [flat] in ~4 months
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I think you're overthinking it man. It's good to have a plan, but since this is your first half, I think you should just focus on running by feel and just using the watch/clock as a general guide. The crowd at the front isn't going to slow you down that much if you seed yourself appropriately. 13.1 is a great distance because it's short enough to run hard, but long enough that there is a risk of blowing up. It's all about settling into a pace you can maintain. If you feel like you have something left at 12, then throw in a surge in that last mile.
ALLL OF THIS!
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#7867555 - 09/16/14 12:30 PM
Re: advice sought re: 1/2 marathon [flat] in ~4 months
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Tri training has certainly improved my overall fitness no doubt. But swimming isn't for everyone...
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#7869678 - 09/17/14 03:19 PM
Re: advice sought re: 1/2 marathon [flat] in ~4 months
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I think you're overthinking it man. It's good to have a plan, but since this is your first half, I think you should just focus on running by feel and just using the watch/clock as a general guide. The crowd at the front isn't going to slow you down that much if you seed yourself appropriately. 13.1 is a great distance because it's short enough to run hard, but long enough that there is a risk of blowing up. It's all about settling into a pace you can maintain. If you feel like you have something left at 12, then throw in a surge in that last mile.
I'm going to agree with all of this. I wish I had seen the thread sooner. I ran my first half last year with like no training. I think my 5k PR at that point was 24ish mins. Averaging maybe 10 miles a week, if that, for about 3 months before the run.
Just run with the people around you. Seed yourself HIGHER than you think you can do. Everyone else does it at these fucking things. At NYC this past spring I put down 1:45 (finished in 1:41) and I was passing motherfuckers for the first mile left and right. At RockAndRoll DC I put 2:00 (my first half) and people were walking after less than a mile.
Seed yourself higher, find what feels like a challenging pace, and let the others around you push you. You will run faster times each mile than you think you could. Drop the watch, focus on your breathing. If you feel like blowing up, make a bargain to try and push it to the next mile. If you make that next mile, you're fine.
I love 13.1 miles. By the end I feel exhausted... but my body isnt trashed.
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#7870002 - 09/17/14 08:26 PM
Re: advice sought re: 1/2 marathon [flat] in ~4 months
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You have solid discipline and training consistency (aside from bike - who am I to talk to doe? ), you will rock it!
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#7870124 - 09/17/14 11:29 PM
Re: advice sought re: 1/2 marathon [flat] in ~4 months
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gamby
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How did you feel this morning? Beaten up? let's see , left calf doesnt seem to extend all the way right now, I cant really bring my left heel to the ground without a bit of discomfort my right foot, possibly as a consequence when I left UP hurts a bit my left hip/leg extender whatever its called [up near my waist] hurts a bit when I extend my leg/attempt to walk lol. Wow thats new. I felt it a bit on miles 10+ or so yesterday. basically I could whine some more but I think thats a good list I did not bike to work today but not because I didnt think I could do it but because I have to bounce between a ton of buildings and meet with people today. Am subtly limping unless I've been sitting for a while, then definintely limping. So in other words I think I'm functional heh. Will masters swim tonight but I'll probably cramp on the very first lap of the first kick set.
Ouch.
I feel longer runs (10k is "long" for me) in my hip flexors bigtime.
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#7870261 - 09/18/14 07:18 AM
Re: advice sought re: 1/2 marathon [flat] in ~4 months
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I think you're overthinking it man. It's good to have a plan, but since this is your first half, I think you should just focus on running by feel and just using the watch/clock as a general guide. The crowd at the front isn't going to slow you down that much if you seed yourself appropriately. 13.1 is a great distance because it's short enough to run hard, but long enough that there is a risk of blowing up. It's all about settling into a pace you can maintain. If you feel like you have something left at 12, then throw in a surge in that last mile. I'm going to agree with all of this. I wish I had seen the thread sooner. I ran my first half last year with like no training. I think my 5k PR at that point was 24ish mins. Averaging maybe 10 miles a week, if that, for about 3 months before the run. Just run with the people around you. Seed yourself HIGHER than you think you can do. Everyone else does it at these fucking things. At NYC this past spring I put down 1:45 (finished in 1:41) and I was passing motherfuckers for the first mile left and right. At RockAndRoll DC I put 2:00 (my first half) and people were walking after less than a mile. Seed yourself higher, find what feels like a challenging pace, and let the others around you push you. You will run faster times each mile than you think you could. Drop the watch, focus on your breathing. If you feel like blowing up, make a bargain to try and push it to the next mile. If you make that next mile, you're fine. I love 13.1 miles. By the end I feel exhausted... but my body isnt trashed.
all this!
a first half is a great thing, just don't over think it! enjoy the experience. just go out and run. when i ran my first half, i ran without ever training with gps, had no idea what my mile splits were, had no idea what i'd be running pace wise, i just ran by feel and it was a great experience.
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#7870718 - 09/18/14 11:18 AM
Re: advice sought re: 1/2 marathon [flat] in ~4 months
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I did the same. First half marathon, stropped to use the restroom trice and ran my last 1.5 miles all-out. Despite the variances it was an awesome experience.
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#7878255 - 09/23/14 06:30 PM
Re: advice sought re: 1/2 marathon [flat] in ~4 months
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stickaz_old
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how is that different than what I posted? I said I'd use avg pace. Oh I get it, I typed a couple addtional words after that.
ib4 still doing it wrong
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#7878313 - 09/23/14 06:58 PM
Re: advice sought re: 1/2 marathon [flat] in ~4 months
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stickaz_old
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I was saying that as something I didn't want to do
I tried 'current lap' which just shows the current lap [I pick 1.0 mile/laps], and I don't think that is terribly useful. Toggling back to the main screen for overall ET/pace and then back during the run doesnt sound like a good idea either \:D
I get it doe, skinny fat
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#7896717 - 10/04/14 10:11 PM
Re: advice sought re: 1/2 marathon [flat] in ~4 months
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Doooo eeet!
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#7897311 - 10/05/14 04:33 PM
Re: advice sought re: 1/2 marathon [flat] in ~4 months
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dirtyS13drifta
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Excellent job man.
When's your next one? You'll crack 2 just having done one for real now.
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