#7772910 - 07/13/14 10:40 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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SJP0tato
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Well, a 2hour ride isn't looking likely this weekend. Doing 80min run tho, same thing right?
Sounds like your cardio will be fine if you've got a good running base established. It's building up the proper leg muscle & getting your crotch used to the seat that you need more seat time for.
I've heard a few bicyclists say use trainers for building muscle. Don't waste hours toiling away at one speed on one, but find a good interval program (or whatever they're called on bikes) to build muscle.
The crotch issue is one you just have to gut out unfortunately. It's better to find out on training rides that the shorts/seat combo you're using won't work at mile 60 than on the actual ride.
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#7772937 - 07/13/14 11:08 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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Find a marathon plan, and multiply the distances by 4. I got a 5km plan, take that and multiple by 32? Well, a 2hour ride isn't looking likely this weekend. Doing 80min run tho, same thing right?
I said marathon because the time spent doing the efforts are roughly the same order of magnitude.
Aerobic capacity translates, but use of actual muscle group doesn't translate that well.
The position is different, you're using muscles in different ways to propel yourself, and you're using different groups of muscles as stabilizer groups.
You need to add time & distance slowly while building up back & other muscles, avoid saddle sores, etc. to keep from injuring yourself.
But if you're going to be a douche about it, go ahead, just train by running. I'm sure everything'll work out fine if the century is the first time you get on the bike for more than a little at a time.
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#7773433 - 07/13/14 07:10 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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dirtyS13drifta
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Yeah. Just being a bit of a smartass.
Lightning showers. That and STP is this weekend, roads are crowded with bikes. That and getting another 2 hours free with 3 month old isn't happening.
I'll probably have to drop my long runs and go into maintenance mode in running.
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#7776484 - 07/15/14 09:04 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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dirtyS13drifta
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Still waiting biatch.
Thinking ill do 50 minutes at lunch in addition to my daily 45(split for commute). See how it feels.
I think my plan is to sub out my long run for a long ride. Then run commute to keeps weekly mileage solid.
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#7778113 - 07/16/14 06:06 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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dirtyS13drifta
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Did 50 minutes at lunch today, felt good, not bad for having done squats/ran yesterday.
I think I'll see about 2 hours/~30 miles over the weekend and see how that feels.
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#7778137 - 07/16/14 06:18 PM
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I shall be interested to hear how it goes. 
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#7778144 - 07/16/14 06:23 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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dirtyS13drifta
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haha, yeah, me too. I suspect I'll bonk at that pace right around 100 minutes. I wish I had an iphone holder for pace tracking(20 year old bike computer died).
I might have to get some gloves too, I could see my hands getting annoyed if I went much longer.
It'll be good for me though.
FWIW, it was 88 degrees today and I only had 4-5 oz of water. BUt of course on a short ride you're not getting that dehydrated.
STill got to ride home, and I'm feeling those squats now. I'm expecting 8mph.
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#7778240 - 07/16/14 07:23 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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14 miles bro, come on, thats like a warmup
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#7778244 - 07/16/14 07:25 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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gamby
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A few thoughts.
On my regular 20 mile flat-with-one climb loop that takes around 1:10, I go through one large water bottle. You should be doing a bottle per hour--period. In hot weather it's dangerous not to.
I have mapmyride set to give me an average speed update every 5 minutes. Granted, I don't do that on long rides because GSIII battery gets raped. You could just keep your bike computer on elapsed time and compare that with your miles in for vague average speed (you're crazy to not to get a new bike computer, BTW--get a cheap 5 function unit)
Funny thing about gloves--even they can get irritating around the 70 mile mark. I still use them doe. Just be sure to break them in well before your century because blisters.
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#7778403 - 07/16/14 09:27 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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dirtyS13drifta
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14 miles bro, come on, thats like a warmup
Fuck your ebiking ass!
I needed something to do at lunch doe. Seemed like a good test case
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#7778468 - 07/16/14 10:52 PM
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Gamby I hear you but if I can run for an hour with no water, 50 biking won't be to bad.
But for longer rides I'll shoot for that rate.
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#7783407 - 07/20/14 03:36 PM
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dirtyS13drifta
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2:03 moving time 32.5miles. Think elapsed was 2;10?
One large water bottle. But I had to pee at 30 & 1:40 so I think I was hydrated.
I didn't realized I had a tailwind on the outbound, but I should of. Lol, why am I cruising in 19th gear.
Time for a real bike. 
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#7783729 - 07/20/14 10:45 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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Gamby I hear you but if I can run for an hour with no water, 50 biking won't be to bad.
But for longer rides I'll shoot for that rate.
That's the internet mindset that gets people hurt--"I ride a century on one bottle no problem!". The bike carries two bottles. Utilize this often and you'll avoid trouble.
Today was 40 miles in 2:30 on exactly 2 large bottles. I'd have felt better with another half bottle doe
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#7784450 - 07/21/14 01:56 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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dirtyS13drifta
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1 cage, 1 bottle right now.
Seriously though, I peed twice in 2 hours. I don't think I'm dehydrated(it was pretty cool Sunday).
Probably could have used more sodium though.
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#7784629 - 07/21/14 04:04 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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dirtyS13drifta
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I think there was some confusion. I was referring to my prior 50 minutes on an 80 degree day. Not a 50 mile ride.
I was just saying no need to beat me up for 50 minutes with no(essentially) water on a hot day, I'm aware of my limitations.
I'm also aware that defictis (caloric, water, etc) compound the longer you go. Success on long activities (anything over 3+ hours) requires proper sustenance.
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#7784647 - 07/21/14 04:17 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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1 cage, 1 bottle right now.
Seriously though, I peed twice in 2 hours. I don't think I'm dehydrated(it was pretty cool Sunday).
Probably could have used more sodium though.
maybe you don't have a going problem rather a growing problem? 
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#7793216 - 07/27/14 04:08 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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Update on OP progress/bike?
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#7793607 - 07/27/14 09:55 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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dirtyS13drifta
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Vacation this weekend. So I slacked.
Think I'll shoot for 3 hours next weekend.
Might bike shop too.
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#7794860 - 07/28/14 03:47 PM
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gamby
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Doo EET. 
Find a good 105-equipped bike (or higher if you ballin') that fits you right and you'll be golden.
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#7794956 - 07/28/14 04:37 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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I want to see him do it on the mtbike doe
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#7795047 - 07/28/14 05:41 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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dirtyS13drifta
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I want to see him do it on the mtbike doe
Better than e-biking everything doe.
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#7795130 - 07/28/14 06:38 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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dat cripple fight doe, ebike commuter vs. *dressed to da 9s* mtb on slicks commuter  wow
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#7795182 - 07/28/14 07:16 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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dat cripple fight doe, ebike commuter vs. *dressed to da 9s* mtb on slicks commuter wow
On your left bro
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#7795426 - 07/28/14 09:48 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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dirtyS13drifta
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if he even makes it 100 miles it will prob take all day at the rate he is training. doe.
I thought all day was reasonable doe.
I've got a newborn. Cut me some fucking slack playa.
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#7795430 - 07/28/14 09:51 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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dirtyS13drifta
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dat cripple fight doe, ebike commuter vs. *dressed to da 9s* mtb on slicks commuter wow
Youre dressed to the nines nukka, all you
fat hockey player in Lycra who's too leet to carry a pump
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#7795541 - 07/29/14 12:19 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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gamby
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Damn--no love around here doe  
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#7795865 - 07/29/14 10:00 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice
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dirtyS13drifta
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Damn dirty I should have just sold you my road bike after I was done with STP and saved the $65 in shipping it back to Minnesota.
Remind me to punch you in the sphincter if you're ever back in porland...
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