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#7772910 - 07/13/14 10:40 AM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: nato2377]
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 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta
Well, a 2hour ride isn't looking likely this weekend. Doing 80min run tho, same thing right?


Sounds like your cardio will be fine if you've got a good running base established. It's building up the proper leg muscle & getting your crotch used to the seat that you need more seat time for.

I've heard a few bicyclists say use trainers for building muscle. Don't waste hours toiling away at one speed on one, but find a good interval program (or whatever they're called on bikes) to build muscle.

The crotch issue is one you just have to gut out unfortunately. It's better to find out on training rides that the shorts/seat combo you're using won't work at mile 60 than on the actual ride.

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#7772937 - 07/13/14 11:08 AM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta
 Originally Posted By: bt0
Find a marathon plan, and multiply the distances by 4.

I got a 5km plan, take that and multiple by 32?

Well, a 2hour ride isn't looking likely this weekend. Doing 80min run tho, same thing right?


I said marathon because the time spent doing the efforts are roughly the same order of magnitude.

Aerobic capacity translates, but use of actual muscle group doesn't translate that well.

The position is different, you're using muscles in different ways to propel yourself, and you're using different groups of muscles as stabilizer groups.

You need to add time & distance slowly while building up back & other muscles, avoid saddle sores, etc. to keep from injuring yourself.

But if you're going to be a douche about it, go ahead, just train by running. I'm sure everything'll work out fine if the century is the first time you get on the bike for more than a little at a time.

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#7773162 - 07/13/14 02:52 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: bt0]
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I think he was being sarcastic about the run being the same as biking.
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#7773433 - 07/13/14 07:10 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: robbbby]
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Yeah. Just being a bit of a smartass.

Lightning showers. That and STP is this weekend, roads are crowded with bikes. That and getting another 2 hours free with 3 month old isn't happening.

I'll probably have to drop my long runs and go into maintenance mode in running.


Edited by dirtyS13drifta (07/13/14 07:10 PM)

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#7775108 - 07/15/14 12:07 AM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: ]
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I did STP last weekend, and there were plenty of novices out there! Some will likely hate cycling for a while! Full report coming when I get home to a real keyboard.
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#7776484 - 07/15/14 09:04 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: JT]
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Still waiting biatch.

Thinking ill do 50 minutes at lunch in addition to my daily 45(split for commute). See how it feels.

I think my plan is to sub out my long run for a long ride. Then run commute to keeps weekly mileage solid.

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#7776564 - 07/15/14 09:52 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: ]
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#7778113 - 07/16/14 06:06 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: JT]
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Did 50 minutes at lunch today, felt good, not bad for having done squats/ran yesterday.

I think I'll see about 2 hours/~30 miles over the weekend and see how that feels.

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#7778137 - 07/16/14 06:18 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: ]
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I shall be interested to hear how it goes. \:\)
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#7778144 - 07/16/14 06:23 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: gamby]
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haha, yeah, me too. I suspect I'll bonk at that pace right around 100 minutes. I wish I had an iphone holder for pace tracking(20 year old bike computer died).
I might have to get some gloves too, I could see my hands getting annoyed if I went much longer.

It'll be good for me though.

FWIW, it was 88 degrees today and I only had 4-5 oz of water. BUt of course on a short ride you're not getting that dehydrated.


STill got to ride home, and I'm feeling those squats now. I'm expecting 8mph.

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#7778240 - 07/16/14 07:23 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: ]
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14 miles bro, come on, thats like a warmup
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#7778244 - 07/16/14 07:25 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: ]
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A few thoughts.

On my regular 20 mile flat-with-one climb loop that takes around 1:10, I go through one large water bottle. You should be doing a bottle per hour--period. In hot weather it's dangerous not to.

I have mapmyride set to give me an average speed update every 5 minutes. Granted, I don't do that on long rides because GSIII battery gets raped. You could just keep your bike computer on elapsed time and compare that with your miles in for vague average speed (you're crazy to not to get a new bike computer, BTW--get a cheap 5 function unit)

Funny thing about gloves--even they can get irritating around the 70 mile mark. I still use them doe. Just be sure to break them in well before your century because blisters.
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#7778269 - 07/16/14 07:42 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: gamby]
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dont get gel gloves though

<--- doesnt ride with gloves #askingfortroubleificrash

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#7778403 - 07/16/14 09:27 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: stickaz_old]
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 Originally Posted By: Clueless in California
14 miles bro, come on, thats like a warmup

Fuck your ebiking ass!


I needed something to do at lunch doe. Seemed like a good test case

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#7778468 - 07/16/14 10:52 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: ]
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Gamby I hear you but if I can run for an hour with no water, 50 biking won't be to bad.
But for longer rides I'll shoot for that rate.

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#7783407 - 07/20/14 03:36 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: ]
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2:03 moving time 32.5miles. Think elapsed was 2;10?

One large water bottle. But I had to pee at 30 & 1:40 so I think I was hydrated.

I didn't realized I had a tailwind on the outbound, but I should of. Lol, why am I cruising in 19th gear.

Time for a real bike.

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#7783729 - 07/20/14 10:45 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta
Gamby I hear you but if I can run for an hour with no water, 50 biking won't be to bad.
But for longer rides I'll shoot for that rate.


That's the internet mindset that gets people hurt--"I ride a century on one bottle no problem!". The bike carries two bottles. Utilize this often and you'll avoid trouble.

Today was 40 miles in 2:30 on exactly 2 large bottles. I'd have felt better with another half bottle doe
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#7784450 - 07/21/14 01:56 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: gamby]
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1 cage, 1 bottle right now.

Seriously though, I peed twice in 2 hours. I don't think I'm dehydrated(it was pretty cool Sunday).

Probably could have used more sodium though.

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#7784524 - 07/21/14 02:52 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: ]
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whenever you do 100 though, you want to try to hit the 1 bottle a hour goal or it will make later on in the ride suck a bit more. i mean you can do it without 1 a hour if you want. i always pee a hour or two into my 100s and then never again during the rest of the race and i go through 3, 100oz camelbacks. if you want something with more sodium try Tailwind Nutrition
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#7784629 - 07/21/14 04:04 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: nato2377]
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I think there was some confusion. I was referring to my prior 50 minutes on an 80 degree day. Not a 50 mile ride.

I was just saying no need to beat me up for 50 minutes with no(essentially) water on a hot day, I'm aware of my limitations.

I'm also aware that defictis (caloric, water, etc) compound the longer you go. Success on long activities (anything over 3+ hours) requires proper sustenance.

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#7784647 - 07/21/14 04:17 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta
1 cage, 1 bottle right now.

Seriously though, I peed twice in 2 hours. I don't think I'm dehydrated(it was pretty cool Sunday).

Probably could have used more sodium though.


maybe you don't have a going problem rather a growing problem?
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#7793216 - 07/27/14 04:08 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: stickaz_old]
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Update on OP progress/bike?
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#7793607 - 07/27/14 09:55 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: Risky Business]
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Vacation this weekend. So I slacked.
Think I'll shoot for 3 hours next weekend.
Might bike shop too.

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#7794860 - 07/28/14 03:47 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta

Might bike shop too.


Doo EET.

Find a good 105-equipped bike (or higher if you ballin') that fits you right and you'll be golden.
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#7794956 - 07/28/14 04:37 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: gamby]
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I want to see him do it on the mtbike doe
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#7795047 - 07/28/14 05:41 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: stickaz_old]
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 Originally Posted By: stickaz
I want to see him do it on the mtbike doe

Better than e-biking everything doe.

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#7795085 - 07/28/14 06:02 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: ]
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y u gotta make this about me, we talking bout u in here, doe

when I make a thread about my [awesome] ebike, feel free to offer critique about it there ;\)
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#7795130 - 07/28/14 06:38 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: stickaz_old]
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dat cripple fight doe, ebike commuter vs. *dressed to da 9s* mtb on slicks commuter \:\| wow
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#7795178 - 07/28/14 07:13 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: Risky Business]
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if he even makes it 100 miles it will prob take all day at the rate he is training. doe.
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#7795182 - 07/28/14 07:16 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
dat cripple fight doe, ebike commuter vs. *dressed to da 9s* mtb on slicks commuter \:\| wow


On your left bro
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#7795426 - 07/28/14 09:48 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: nato2377]
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 Originally Posted By: nato2377
if he even makes it 100 miles it will prob take all day at the rate he is training. doe.

I thought all day was reasonable doe. \:\|

I've got a newborn. Cut me some fucking slack playa.

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#7795430 - 07/28/14 09:51 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
dat cripple fight doe, ebike commuter vs. *dressed to da 9s* mtb on slicks commuter \:\| wow


Youre dressed to the nines nukka, all you

fat hockey player in Lycra who's too leet to carry a pump

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#7795438 - 07/28/14 10:02 PM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: ]
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Damn dirty I should have just sold you my road bike after I was done with STP and saved the $65 in shipping it back to Minnesota.
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#7795541 - 07/29/14 12:19 AM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: JT]
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Damn--no love around here doe \:\( <3
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#7795865 - 07/29/14 10:00 AM Re: Doing a century as a novice [Re: JT]
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 Originally Posted By: JT
Damn dirty I should have just sold you my road bike after I was done with STP and saved the $65 in shipping it back to Minnesota.

Remind me to punch you in the sphincter if you're ever back in porland...


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