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#7568326 - 02/21/14 10:30 PM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
Who the hell can buy within their means these days? Even a few yrs ago?



Everyone else in this province not living in the GTA
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#7568380 - 02/21/14 10:49 PM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: LNXGUY]
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Barrie still falls under retarded pricing.
:p
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#7568426 - 02/21/14 11:23 PM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
Barrie still falls under retarded pricing.
:p


You can't afford to live in Barrie? Shit man, it's not that expensive.
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#7568622 - 02/22/14 09:42 AM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: LNXGUY]
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Was thinking of getting a Honeywell Tstat and my current wire config doesn't have a c-wire. But Honeywell says the g-wire can be used as a sub. Is this the same issue as Nest's?
http://youtu.be/jniws7wqeY4

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#7568641 - 02/22/14 10:06 AM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
Who the hell can buy within their means these days? Even a few yrs ago?



many

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#7568654 - 02/22/14 10:16 AM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: loudsubz]
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I think you missed my point
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#7568655 - 02/22/14 10:16 AM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: LNXGUY]
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 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
Barrie still falls under retarded pricing.
:p


You can't afford to live in Barrie? Shit man, it's not that expensive.
prices have seen similar retarded increases
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#7568668 - 02/22/14 10:23 AM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
Barrie still falls under retarded pricing.
:p


You can't afford to live in Barrie? Shit man, it's not that expensive.
prices have seen similar retarded increases


I understand prices have rocketed, but there are many affordable places still available, maybe not in the most desirable locations but not in tim buck too

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#7568680 - 02/22/14 10:29 AM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: loudsubz]
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I'm just gonna buy next door to you. We can set up a treehouse string phone for late night whispers
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#7568688 - 02/22/14 10:36 AM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: Euphoricuck]
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#7568690 - 02/22/14 10:39 AM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
I'm just gonna buy next door to you. We can set up a treehouse string phone for late night whispers


underground tunnel between our basements too

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#7568751 - 02/22/14 11:43 AM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
I'm just gonna buy next door to you. We can set up a treehouse string phone for late night whispers


 Originally Posted By: The Big Bang Theory
Last night I had a dream, we bought matching side by side mansions! But, there was a secret tunnel connecting your front yard to my back yard. What do you think that means?




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#7568758 - 02/22/14 11:49 AM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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he's got a purdy mouth
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#7574241 - 02/25/14 07:59 PM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: civic13]
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 Originally Posted By: civic13
Was thinking of getting a Honeywell Tstat and my current wire config doesn't have a c-wire. But Honeywell says the g-wire can be used as a sub. Is this the same issue as Nest's?
http://youtu.be/jniws7wqeY4

Anyone have an idea about this??

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#7574274 - 02/25/14 08:13 PM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: civic13]
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do you want to lose control of your ability to run the fan manually?

all they are doing is swapping wires because they need a common wire for proper current consumption that the wifi draws from the board. since it only had 4 wires they can't lose control of the fan so that jumper tricks the fan to come on when heating/cooling is called for.

I would rather just run a new wire for common to the board and still have control. if your basement isn't finished it would be a good idea.

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#7574776 - 02/26/14 07:59 AM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: loudsubz]
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If not, the Venstar Add-A-Wire seems to work magic...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3pea5qtygo

 Originally Posted By: loudsubz

I would rather just run a new wire for common to the board and still have control. if your basement isn't finished it would be a good idea.

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#7576902 - 02/26/14 06:41 PM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: loudsubz]
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 Originally Posted By: loudsubz
do you want to lose control of your ability to run the fan manually?

all they are doing is swapping wires because they need a common wire for proper current consumption that the wifi draws from the board. since it only had 4 wires they can't lose control of the fan so that jumper tricks the fan to come on when heating/cooling is called for.

I would rather just run a new wire for common to the board and still have control. if your basement isn't finished it would be a good idea.

Thanks.
I really have no need to run the fan manually.
My basement is finished but where the furnace is it's not so I'm not sure how easy/hard it would be to run the extra wire.
Do you do this kinda thing for work?

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#7576976 - 02/26/14 07:00 PM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: civic13]
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 Originally Posted By: civic13
 Originally Posted By: loudsubz
do you want to lose control of your ability to run the fan manually?

all they are doing is swapping wires because they need a common wire for proper current consumption that the wifi draws from the board. since it only had 4 wires they can't lose control of the fan so that jumper tricks the fan to come on when heating/cooling is called for.

I would rather just run a new wire for common to the board and still have control. if your basement isn't finished it would be a good idea.

Thanks.
I really have no need to run the fan manually.
My basement is finished but where the furnace is it's not so I'm not sure how easy/hard it would be to run the extra wire.
Do you do this kinda thing for work?


It's a super easy fix, swap G to C on both the furnace board and thermostat.

please paypal me my standard fee of $95/hour.

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#7577128 - 02/26/14 07:55 PM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: civic13]
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 Originally Posted By: civic13
 Originally Posted By: loudsubz
do you want to lose control of your ability to run the fan manually?

all they are doing is swapping wires because they need a common wire for proper current consumption that the wifi draws from the board. since it only had 4 wires they can't lose control of the fan so that jumper tricks the fan to come on when heating/cooling is called for.

I would rather just run a new wire for common to the board and still have control. if your basement isn't finished it would be a good idea.

Thanks.
I really have no need to run the fan manually.
My basement is finished but where the furnace is it's not so I'm not sure how easy/hard it would be to run the extra wire.
Do you do this kinda thing for work?


how far is your tstat from the furnace?


Edited by loudsubz (02/26/14 07:55 PM)

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#7577133 - 02/26/14 07:57 PM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: loudsubz]
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#7577136 - 02/26/14 07:59 PM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: loudsubz]
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 Originally Posted By: loudsubz
 Originally Posted By: civic13
 Originally Posted By: loudsubz
do you want to lose control of your ability to run the fan manually?

all they are doing is swapping wires because they need a common wire for proper current consumption that the wifi draws from the board. since it only had 4 wires they can't lose control of the fan so that jumper tricks the fan to come on when heating/cooling is called for.

I would rather just run a new wire for common to the board and still have control. if your basement isn't finished it would be a good idea.

Thanks.
I really have no need to run the fan manually.
My basement is finished but where the furnace is it's not so I'm not sure how easy/hard it would be to run the extra wire.
Do you do this kinda thing for work?


how far is your tstat from the furnace?

It's almost right above it.

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#7577143 - 02/26/14 08:01 PM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: robbbby]
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 Originally Posted By: robbbby
 Originally Posted By: civic13
 Originally Posted By: loudsubz
do you want to lose control of your ability to run the fan manually?

all they are doing is swapping wires because they need a common wire for proper current consumption that the wifi draws from the board. since it only had 4 wires they can't lose control of the fan so that jumper tricks the fan to come on when heating/cooling is called for.

I would rather just run a new wire for common to the board and still have control. if your basement isn't finished it would be a good idea.

Thanks.
I really have no need to run the fan manually.
My basement is finished but where the furnace is it's not so I'm not sure how easy/hard it would be to run the extra wire.
Do you do this kinda thing for work?


It's a super easy fix, swap G to C on both the furnace board and thermostat.

please paypal me my standard fee of $95/hour.

That's what I mentioned before in my post above with the link to a YouTube vid.
Is the only issue not being able to manually control the fan? Anything else?

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#7577172 - 02/26/14 08:13 PM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: civic13]
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 Originally Posted By: civic13
 Originally Posted By: loudsubz
 Originally Posted By: civic13
 Originally Posted By: loudsubz
do you want to lose control of your ability to run the fan manually?

all they are doing is swapping wires because they need a common wire for proper current consumption that the wifi draws from the board. since it only had 4 wires they can't lose control of the fan so that jumper tricks the fan to come on when heating/cooling is called for.

I would rather just run a new wire for common to the board and still have control. if your basement isn't finished it would be a good idea.

Thanks.
I really have no need to run the fan manually.
My basement is finished but where the furnace is it's not so I'm not sure how easy/hard it would be to run the extra wire.
Do you do this kinda thing for work?


how far is your tstat from the furnace?

It's almost right above it.


if you can see the existing tstat wire going through the floor up the wall from the furnace room you can just re pull a new one, super easy. Should cost like $10 in wire max

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#7577208 - 02/26/14 08:25 PM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: loudsubz]
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What type of wire should I look for?
The only thing I see that might cause an issue is trying to trace the current wires as the ducting is in the way.

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#7577237 - 02/26/14 08:38 PM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: civic13]
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any wire would work as long as its the same gauge, it doesn't have to be solid, it could be stranded as well.

try taping a piece of string to the existing line and pulling from the basement and see if the wire moves down the wall, that way you know you are home free with pulling a new line. You could also leave the existing wire and just run a new 2 conductor cable from the furnace to Tstat and use one of the wires as the common.

Lots of options

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#7577250 - 02/26/14 08:41 PM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: civic13]
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 Originally Posted By: civic13
 Originally Posted By: robbbby
 Originally Posted By: civic13
 Originally Posted By: loudsubz
do you want to lose control of your ability to run the fan manually?

all they are doing is swapping wires because they need a common wire for proper current consumption that the wifi draws from the board. since it only had 4 wires they can't lose control of the fan so that jumper tricks the fan to come on when heating/cooling is called for.

I would rather just run a new wire for common to the board and still have control. if your basement isn't finished it would be a good idea.

Thanks.
I really have no need to run the fan manually.
My basement is finished but where the furnace is it's not so I'm not sure how easy/hard it would be to run the extra wire.
Do you do this kinda thing for work?


It's a super easy fix, swap G to C on both the furnace board and thermostat.

please paypal me my standard fee of $95/hour.

That's what I mentioned before in my post above with the link to a YouTube vid.
Is the only issue not being able to manually control the fan? Anything else?


just no manual fan control like loudsubz mentioned.

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#9256696 - 02/17/18 09:29 AM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: furball]
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There are other options than installing the wire. In fact, if your thermostat does not have a common wire (C-Wire) you have the following alternatives:

- The Venstar Add-a-Wire Adapter
- Stealing Power
- The Fan Wire Hack
- External Transformer Method

And of course, you can run a new wire or hire an HVAC professional. You can read more about the before mentioned methods here: https://roboauthority.com/guides/thermostat-c-wire/

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#9256799 - 02/17/18 01:02 PM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: RobJohn]
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#9257718 - 02/19/18 01:15 PM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: Hatorade]
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#9257808 - 02/19/18 03:11 PM Re: Anyone here Nest? vCommonWire [Re: LNXGUY]
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