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#6915305 - 02/23/13 02:50 AM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: DieZel]
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What are you doing to me? You got Facebook. Post this on the authors page and tell him hes stupid.
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#6915374 - 02/23/13 07:18 AM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: 137]
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Gimme his Facebook page and I will...
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#6915519 - 02/23/13 10:57 AM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: DieZel]
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Dh kiefer
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#6915530 - 02/23/13 11:05 AM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: 137]
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Friend request sent. Can't post til I get confirmed...
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#6915590 - 02/23/13 12:03 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: DieZel]
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Soooo.....#carbnite debunked?
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#6915597 - 02/23/13 12:08 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: DieZel]
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Just for you cory... backwards low carb refeed day. Should fuck me up instantly. Will prove point in blog post then 7-10 day reset.

Edited by 137 (02/23/13 12:09 PM)
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#6915605 - 02/23/13 12:12 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: 98V-TeC]
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 Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC
Soooo.....#carbnite debunked?


C'mon cory with the power of google vs someone who researches this shit daily? I'm just going to sit back and laugh.

Hes trying so hard to get at least one person to listen to him. While the guy cory says is full of shit is turning people down left and right who want to pay him thousands to tell them how to eat.

There has to be a reason for that kind of fad demand.
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#6915634 - 02/23/13 12:33 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: 137]
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There are a lot of suckers in this world. Thousands!! To be told how to eat?
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#6915660 - 02/23/13 12:56 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: 98V-TeC]
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 Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC
There are a lot of suckers in this world. Thousands!! To be told how to eat?


Well there are a lot of suckers on this forum as well. Me being one of them, next blog post is dedicated to cory. I should go get cereal and milk now....
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#6915669 - 02/23/13 01:07 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: 137]
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I just got a chuckle out of that post.

He links a researched article and rebuttal is the guy gets paid thousands to help people.

C'mon. People down in Florida pay that wacky Puerto Rican to tell them he's Jesus.

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#6915679 - 02/23/13 01:16 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: 98V-TeC]
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 Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC
I just got a chuckle out of that post.

He links a researched article and rebuttal is the guy gets paid thousands to help people.


First off... Everything Kiefer posts has medical article references, if you wanted to you could post some bullshit and find a medical article to possibly back it up.

And it probably says "studies show" somewhere so it has to be true... where is a link to the study? What was the frequency and control of the study, what is the relevancy of the subjects of the study training wise to me? Do they train hard, are they sedentary, etc.

Those things fucking matter. Just because Cory was like "oh I hate to burst your bubble" and posts an article that says studies show, doesn't mean shit. I could say crest is better than aquafresh, 9 out of 10 dentists recommend it.

Who the fuck are the dentists, and why do they recommend it?

There are times that Kiefer posts shit that is contradictory to what the fuck he says too... And normally will clear that up, in his 2nd article about creatine supplementation he posts links to articles concerning glut 4 activation and shit and the studies linked to his research say conflicting things.

So it's either a fuck up on his part sometimes, or maybe there is something a bit deeper he didn't explain in detail. And will clarify it elsewhere.

The bottom line is I am following a guideline, that's it. Cory is following a guideline, he didn't just wake up and become awesome at what works for him.

I don't understand what all the complication or what xbox real life achievement he thinks he's going to win by proving something about my eating schedule.

If you eat shit in the morning on a regular basis you will potentially lose weight, but you will also be losing muscle mass. If you eat later in the day and they're still researching why the fuck this is the case. You wont lose muscle mass, but you will lose fat BUT... BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT you will not lose as much weight.

So you can be 153lbs and look like Val at the end of the day, or you can be 180lbs and look like me.

pick one of the two evils.
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#6915727 - 02/23/13 02:09 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: 137]
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btw this is not the post dedicated to diezel.

http://waynescn.blogspot.com/2013/02/day-72-short-and-sweet.html
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#6915823 - 02/23/13 03:27 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: ]
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I'll get to your blog then Wayne...

Look everyone, I'm gonna put my faith in guys like Alan Aragon, Lyle McDonald, Eric Helms who all are experts in their areas... Not some dick that pulls bullshit out of the air and has you thinking that meal timing is relevant AT ALL... That's fucking bro science 101...

At some point you'll fall off this dumb fucking program and blow up like a fucking balloon again and ill be the one laughing... I gave you info in black and white in a fucking peer reviewed journal and you pooh pooh it cause dude has people clambering to be the next dumb fucking sucker...

You have this hard on about losing gobs of muscle during a deficit... I already told you the key to retaining lean mass is adequate protein AND heavy training... THATs IT...

You're not going to hold it all but you'll be able to maintain most of it...

Don't even gets started on that stupid fucking creatine dosing schedule... OMFG LOL

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#6915828 - 02/23/13 03:29 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: DieZel]
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Oh and if you download the PDF in the link provided all your questions are answered on the study specifics...
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#6915830 - 02/23/13 03:30 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: DieZel]
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When I start my cut ill chronicle it here and you'll see the hoops you jump through will have been a waste of your time and likely doing more internal harm than good...

What's your lipid profile look like currently...?

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#6915847 - 02/23/13 03:43 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: DieZel]
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Well I posted on your boys page. Ill wait to get a response. Looking through the posts on there I want to stab my eyes out...
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#6915996 - 02/23/13 05:39 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: DieZel]
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I just want to lift weights.... lets focus here.
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#6916001 - 02/23/13 05:52 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: 137]
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that sounds like a plan...
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#6916013 - 02/23/13 06:09 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: DieZel]
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yo i just read yesterday's entry, and you took in 4015 cals...? you ain't losing no weight like that broham... ;\)
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#6916068 - 02/23/13 07:05 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: DieZel]
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my experiment today kind of failed since I didn't eat like I normally do... but I damn sure ain't picking up where I left off tomorrow. I got a shitload of laundry to do.
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#6916086 - 02/23/13 07:28 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: 137]
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lol, what's your new work schedule...? are you off the night shift now...?
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#6916211 - 02/23/13 09:51 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: DieZel]
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yeah, working 10am to 7pm now. =( have to train butt ass early in the morning too much traffic to train at night and sleep
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#6916351 - 02/23/13 11:12 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: 137]
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I lift at 5am stfu

How can a person be so opinionated for years and still be fat?


Can you even bench your own body weight??

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#6916387 - 02/23/13 11:38 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: fuckin' banned]
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I'm a bit lost, but 10-7 is one easy shift.
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#6916411 - 02/24/13 12:11 AM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: Impulsive]
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I'm a bit lost, but 10-7 is one easy shift.


I have to drive through a possible 2 hours of traffic in, and 1 hour of traffic out. And that's not grave.
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#6916412 - 02/24/13 12:12 AM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: fuckin' banned]
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 Originally Posted By: fuckin' dumbo
I lift at 5am stfu

What do you lift again? your juicer and your lv gym back with your custom channel beats by dre headphones?

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How can a person be so opinionated for years and still be fat?

Same way you can be wealthy and never fit in.

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Can you even bench your own body weight??


Easily. I can even overhead squat 40lbs OVER my bodyweight, and yourself?


Edited by 137 (02/24/13 12:13 AM)
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#6916459 - 02/24/13 01:01 AM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: 137]
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Diesel, I hate to do this to you but.

http://articles.elitefts.com/nutrition/logic-does-not-apply-iii-a-calorie-is-a-calorie/

There is a part 1 and 2 there as well citing references with all that good stuff you love to read in there. dying to hear your thoughts.

Also...

http://waynescn.blogspot.com/2013/02/day-73-dedicated-to-diezel.html


Edited by 137 (02/24/13 01:52 AM)
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#6916504 - 02/24/13 03:47 AM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: 137]
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I swear I already refuted that tripe.

Still, I'm glad you're progressing, but I think it's because you are just burning more than you intake. I don't think it's the magic of a carb nite. But keep on keeping on, because it's working and it seems to be something you enjoy and can stick with.

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#6916589 - 02/24/13 08:01 AM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: Silock]
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Wait, dude what? I'm not wealthy.


And I can bench 100+ pounds more than my body weight

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#6916632 - 02/24/13 08:56 AM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: 137]
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 Originally Posted By: fuckin' dumbo
I lift at 5am stfu

What do you lift again? your juicer and your lv gym back with your custom channel beats by dre headphones?

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How can a person be so opinionated for years and still be fat?

Same way you can be wealthy and never fit in.

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Can you even bench your own body weight??


Easily. I can even overhead squat 40lbs OVER my bodyweight, and yourself?


I think fuckin' dumbo is Art, not Killerbee.

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#6916742 - 02/24/13 10:41 AM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: 65_289]
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73 days in, 4000+ cals and more talk and pics of eating shit food.

I don't think can't take this seriously anymore.


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#6916842 - 02/24/13 11:50 AM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: ]
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#6916911 - 02/24/13 12:42 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: 137]
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 Originally Posted By: fuckin' dumbo
I lift at 5am stfu

What do you lift again? your juicer and your lv gym back with your custom channel beats by dre headphones?

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How can a person be so opinionated for years and still be fat?

Same way you can be wealthy and never fit in.

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Can you even bench your own body weight??


Easily. I can even overhead squat 40lbs OVER my bodyweight, and yourself?




Uh, yeah, that's not me, smart guy

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#6916916 - 02/24/13 12:47 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: NapOB1leon
Who is FD?

100lbs over your BW isn't exactly record breaking. I'm 80lbs over on the 3x set (5th set) and I'm not that strong.
what do you bench?

I can rep 325. Rep.


I'd be surprised if you could even put up 225 once.

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#6916919 - 02/24/13 12:51 PM Re: Wayne... your blog... [Re: fuckin' banned]
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And I can bench more than 100 pounds more than my body weight


I'm just saying, you know how often I see skinny ass highschool kids get 405 off the ground with shitty form dead lifts? Daily. It's not that hard to pull big numbers with bad form.

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