#5851774 - 10/10/11 12:26 PM
My Weight Loss + Lifting Photo Updates *Update 09/17/12*
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#5851984 - 10/10/11 02:12 PM
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Doin any cardio?
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#5851994 - 10/10/11 02:16 PM
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Yes, my routine has been weights on Monday - Wednesday - Friday and cardio on Tuesday & Thursday. Cardio consists of either 1 hour of elliptical or 50 minutes of treadmill @ 5mph.
I've also been really watching my calories and keeping them at 1500 - 1600 per day...except on the weekends I slip here and there, but really strict Monday - Friday. And on the weekends I may have 1 bad meal on Saturday and one on Sunday, while still being strict for say breakfast and lunch.
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#5852440 - 10/10/11 06:29 PM
Re: Four weeks progress...
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6 months is my goal (though I plan on going indefinitely) for an actual body transformation but I'd like to see some progress along the way of course...maybe at 3 months it'll be noticeable. Either way I guess I can just use this thread to keep on ongoing blog on the progress.
You're not going to see a "transformation" in 6 months. Progress sure. The only people that see a "transformation" are those looking to cut a lot of weight. Because, surprise surprise, cutting 20lbs of fat actually isn't that hard over 6 months. If you commit. 4 weeks is nothing. Honestly it's amazing people expect much in 4 weeks. Unless you're going biggest loser and coming from grossly out of shape and then training 4+ hours a day with a trainer and working with a dietician.
That said, you can see great progress in 2-3 months, but it's incremental. It's not like you'll have washboards and 2" bigger arms one day.
Your generall persona as shown on the forums tend to be pretty much "I want it all and I want it now". That's not how the body works, you've got to work at it alot.
P.s. after 4 weeks you need to be going faster the 5mph. Push yourself. Oh and unless you have knee/feet problems ditch the elipical. I'm not saying this based on looks, but it just sounds pretty lax.
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#5853079 - 10/11/11 12:33 AM
Re: Four weeks progress...
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I can definitely tell a difference. Look at the thickness of your upper chest and your shoulders in the side profile pic.
Dude, just keep at it. Are you doing compound lifts and free weights?
Good observation, I guess from that side profile pic, you can tell a difference.
I am definitely getting stronger so I know something is happening. My leg press is up by 50lbs and my bench press is up by 40lbs (sounds more impressive than it is...I am still only benching 73% of my body weight 3 sets 10x each flat bench) and I can do 3 full chin-ups (couldn't even do one when I started 4 weeks ago).
I'm doing a mix of excercises...basically...
Legs: Hack Squats Seated Calf Raises Incline Leg Press
Back: Narrow underhand lat pulldown Wide overhand lat pulldown
Chest: Decline Bench Flat Bench Incline Bench
Biceps: Standing Barbell Curls Seated Scott Curls Concentration Curls
Shoulders: Military Press Lateral Raises Front Dumbell Raises
Triceps: Seated Overhead Extensions Cable Pulldowns
I do them...
Monday Wednesday Friday
...in the order that you see above...the ones listed only twice I repeat Monday's on Friday. For legs I do 5 sets, for back I do 4 sets and for everything else I do 3 sets.
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#5854011 - 10/11/11 01:56 PM
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Wait, you do all that stuff each time you go to the gym? Oh shit. Would it be possible to go 5 times a week for less time?
I don't do all the stuff listed every time I go...I do one of each from each group...so for example Monday would look like...
Legs: Hack squats x 5 sets x 12 reps Back: Close underhand lat pulldown x 4 sets x 12 reps Chest: Decline bench x 3 sets x 10 reps Biceps: Standing barbell curls x 3 sets x 10 reps Shoulders: Military Press x 3 sets x 10 reps Triceps: Seated Extensions x 3 sets x 10 reps
It takes right around one hour to complete and the routine came from the advice of Silock and a site he recommended for the most effective exercises (though I think they recommended regular squats, no hack squats).
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#5854021 - 10/11/11 01:59 PM
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Dude, instead of hack squats do a real barbell squat, even if you cannot do much weight. Just go really low and explode out of the bottom using your ass and hamstrings.
That's how low you're supposed to go with squats? On the hack squat machine, I go to 90º at my knees and back up, it's hard a fuck but I really feel it in my quads. I don't really it does much for my hamstrings or ass...but that's where the incline leg press comes in on Fridays...with that I go where my thighs are almost touching my chest and I really feel that in my hamstrings and ass.
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#5854029 - 10/11/11 02:02 PM
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Dude, instead of hack squats do a real barbell squat, even if you cannot do much weight. Just go really low and explode out of the bottom using your ass and hamstrings. That's how low you're supposed to go with squats? On the hack squat machine, I go to 90º at my knees and back up, it's hard a fuck but I really feel it in my quads. I don't really it does much for my hamstrings or ass...but that's where the incline leg press comes in on Fridays...with that I go where my thighs are almost touching my chest and I really feel that in my hamstrings and ass.
Combine the two and do it like you're supposed to.
Squats aren't just a quad exercise. You should be feeling it in your core, groin, hamstrings, ass, quads, calves and a few other places.
The way you're doing it isn't working your core at all, and not giving you enough overall stimulation in your lower body to really develop the muscles.
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#5854030 - 10/11/11 02:03 PM
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#5854037 - 10/11/11 02:05 PM
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Hey! Wait a second...I knew there was a reason I was doing hack squats...
http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2011/08/suppversity-emg-series-gluteaus-maximus.html
The most effective exercises with standard equipment: Hack squats, lying on machine, 50° knee angle Hack squats, lying on machine, 90° knee angle Squats, barbell, 70° knee angle 45° leg press, 90° knee angle Squats, barbell, 90° knee angle Squats, barbell, 40° knee angle
Image 2: Turns out the hack squat is the most effective exercise. In that, going deep (50° knee angle) is only slightly more taxing on the quads than the standard and much safer 90° knee angle.
While the EMG activity of the quads may be marginally improved in the case of the hack squat (+0.38%), doing one's squats "ass to the ground", as some people like to call it, actually reduces the quad activity by -10.34%.
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#5904976 - 11/03/11 01:11 AM
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Monday will be 8 weeks since I started lifting and I will be taking some new pictures then, but in the mean time, I decided to look through some older pictures from this year before I started on my diet. I may be getting a little bit too into this but it's kind of fun.
I've made a couple mouseover sites with progress and I'll keep these going as I progress, with notes to help me keep track of things at the bottom of each page.
First I have my pre-diet to dieting/4 weeks of lifting comparison: http://nitnelav.com/Body/Mouseover/190to187.html
Then after dieting/cardio for a couple months (no lifting) to 4 weeks of lifting: http://nitnelav.com/Body/Mouseover/0to4weeks1.html
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#5905005 - 11/03/11 01:45 AM
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I see zero difference between those two pics, except a lack of body hair.
Did you see the newest reply I made (directly above yours) with the links?
http://nitnelav.com/Body/Mouseover/190to187.html http://nitnelav.com/Body/Mouseover/0to4weeks1.html
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#5905784 - 11/03/11 12:36 PM
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]I see some minor differences. But lifting takes more time.
Also, I suspect your diet is slowing you down. 8 weeks should have gotten you a lot of weight down. What have you lost?
Honestly, nothing, which I'm finding very weird. It used to be fairly easy for me to drop 1.5lbs per week but since I've started lifting and keeping my calories at 1500/day I literally haven't dropped in weight...hell this morning I'm actually heavier than I was 8 weeks ago. I was 187.0 this morning compared to 186.1 8 weeks ago.
I'm noticing a difference though...a little bit in looks but more in how my body feels, it feels tighter...but as flabby and my wife says she can definitely see a chance so I guess I'll just keep on going.
What I always wonder is...what the hell would happen if I didn't watch everything I ate? Damn.
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#5906064 - 11/03/11 02:37 PM
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If I go to 1000-1100 per day, I don't think I can still meet the protein needs. As is with 1500 calories I get about 145g of protein per day.
I usually do take a day or two (usually Saturday and/or Sunday) where I am not as strict with my diet, I'll have one "bad" meal.
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#5906159 - 11/03/11 03:10 PM
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If I go to 1000-1100 per day, I don't think I can still meet the protein needs. As is with 1500 calories I get about 145g of protein per day.
I usually do take a day or two (usually Saturday and/or Sunday) where I am not as strict with my diet, I'll have one "bad" meal.
Just my severely limited opinion... But what are you actuall doing when you work out?
If you can run 50 @ 5 miles, get off the damn eliptical. If your body can take the impact elipticals are normally a way to slack. Get your heart rate up. And if you can do 50@5mph, push yourself to get faster. 12 minute miles aren't exactly going to melt the fat off. Sure slow and steady eats calories up, but if you can get your heart rate up you'll have longer burn. The goal should be something like 1 hour at about 7+mph. There's no reason a 30 y/o @ sub 190 shouldn't be able to work towards that. Start by doing 5-10minutes at a time at 6mph, and alternate. Even soft intervals will get your cardio system more active.
Oh and get a plan on weights. I'll admit I'm no expert here, but I've always had a plan at least.
Honestly I think you're not pushing yourself enough.
That said, 8 weeks still isn't that long. But for how few calories your on I would have expected to see more results that a 1/2 inch in your belly and no weight loss.
How much are you "cheating" on weekends and the bad meal? Is the one "bad" meal 1200 calories? I've never been a dieter, but it seem everyone I know with diet problems cheats too much.
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