But what are you actuall doing when you work out?

If you can run 50 @ 5 miles, get off the damn eliptical. If your body can take the impact elipticals are normally a way to slack.

Honestly I think you're not pushing yourself enough.

That said, 8 weeks still isn't that long. But for how few calories your on I would have expected to see more results that a 1/2 inch in your belly and no weight loss.

How much are you "cheating" on weekends and the bad meal? Is the one "bad" meal 1200 calories?

did you just eat 40oz of chicken all day or what?

not the diet for you... you arent looking to lose and if you had that kind of high protein diet youd gas so fast out on the ice you wouldnt even know which way was up.

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Lunch I had 12oz of lean chcien breast
330cals, 75Gs

The zone thing is fucking retarded.

The zone thing is fucking retarded.

Why not the Weight control (Fitness/Fat burn) zone? With the hiking, wearing my heart rate monitor, I average 125 bpm over 50 minutes with a max of 160 bpm.

Agreed...ditch the heart rate monitor!

By anaerobic I'm simply saying you need to get your body to the point of where your heart is beating fast and you're sucking wind.

OB1 is right....you're overthinking it. Get out there and make yourself suffer...it's he only way.

You guys are more hardcore than most on here and while I agree with you in principle, what I've learned about myself over years and years is that I do better at a slower pace than at a faster pace because I simply don't do it. I know I should, but I hate it and end up giving up. I just work better if I can do something I like at least somewhat and it takes 6 months to do vs doing something I hate and doing it in 3 months.

I'll be upfront and I know you guys will do a but as I type this, I'm on the elliptical and my heart rate is at 132 bpm but I don't hate it. Sure I could be on the treadmill and be at 158 bpm but I would do that for about two days and stop, I've tried it.

Instead of hiking your hike, jog it. When you're out of breath and feel shitty, I would alternate resting and powering through it - rinse/repeat.

looking good man. It's a very obvious improvement

It's not that running is all that tiring, that isn't what I don't like about it. What I don't like is that I'm panting the whole time and hating life. I get a little dizzy...time seems to move backwards, I look at the clock literally every 45 seconds and it feels like 5 minutes.

You guys are more hardcore than most on here and while I agree with you in principle, what I've learned about myself over years and years is that I do better at a slower pace than at a faster pace because I simply don't do it. I know I should, but I hate it and end up giving up. I just work better if I can do something I like at least somewhat and it takes 6 months to do vs doing something I hate and doing it in 3 months.

I'll be upfront and I know you guys will do a but as I type this on my iPad, I'm on the elliptical and my heart rate is at 132 bpm but I don't hate it. Sure I could be on the treadmill and be at 158 bpm but I would do that for about two days and stop, I've tried it.

I've lost 55lbs before so I'm not totally new at this.

It's not that running is all that tiring, that isn't what I don't like about it. What I don't like is that I'm panting the whole time and hating life. I get a little dizzy...time seems to move backwards, I look at the clock literally every 45 seconds and it feels like 5 minutes.

And I didn't say I'm not committed to results, I'm saying that I think there can be a middle ground where it takes longer to get the results vs all or nothing that many people on here seem to preach.
Right now I'm doing 1200 calories and the 3 days liftting & 3 days elliptical/hiking. I'll see how that goes over the next 4 weeks and adjust then if needed.