My Weight Loss + Lifting Photo Updates *Update 09/17/12*

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#6561078 - 08/31/12 06:30 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
HX_Guy HX_Guy Please blame any typos on my executive assistant Post Master Supreme Registered: 02/06/01 Posts: 45792	Hey fuckers don't get my thread here closed! Fight in your own thread. $\:\)$ _________________________ 2015 Ferrari 458 Italia 2021 Tesla Model S 2019 Mercedes S560 Coupe 2022 GMC Sierra Denali Ultimate
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#6561080 - 08/31/12 06:31 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: HX_Guy]
Artvandelay Artvandelay Unregistered	Alright enough of this shit. I'm sorry OB1, can we be friends again? at least until the giants cowboys game?
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#6561100 - 08/31/12 06:44 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
137 137 Post Master Supreme Registered: 12/06/02 Posts: 41819 Loc: Newsomville, CA	Originally Posted By: OB1 All I ever wanted to be was friends. One edited quote somehow made us enemies. And somehow all of your guy's posts combined has made you faggots lol. _________________________ Wayne
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#6561102 - 08/31/12 06:44 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
Artvandelay Artvandelay Unregistered	non-sexual man hug
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#6562338 - 09/01/12 09:16 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Silock]
HX_Guy HX_Guy Please blame any typos on my executive assistant Post Master Supreme Registered: 02/06/01 Posts: 45792	Hit the gym today and it was squats/bench/cleans day... Tried the new wider grip bench and wow it feels like a completely different exercise. Fucking pisses me off, for 8 months I've been doing them wrong. I dropped the weight to 145lbs since it was the first time doing them like this but it felt good, felt a lot better thoughtout the whole exercise vs crashing on the last rep before. I'm guessing the crashing was due to triceps muscles tiring out faster than other, bigger muscles? With the narrower grip on bench press, my 5 rep set would feel like... Easy Easy Easy Medium Can't do it With the wider grip, it was more even... Easy Easy Easy-medium Medium Hard _________________________ 2015 Ferrari 458 Italia 2021 Tesla Model S 2019 Mercedes S560 Coupe 2022 GMC Sierra Denali Ultimate
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#6562345 - 09/01/12 09:22 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: HX_Guy]
Silock Silock Post Master Supreme Registered: 01/23/00 Posts: 60326 Loc: Jayhawk Country	Glad to hear it
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#6562367 - 09/01/12 09:42 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: HX_Guy]
gamby gamby Post Master Supreme Registered: 11/01/99 Posts: 40865 Loc: RI	Yep, way more power out of the wider grip. Glad it worked. I'll bet you start to see some progress/growth before long. _________________________ ___________________________________ gamby still have an EM1--go figure
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#6562429 - 09/01/12 10:42 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: gamby]
Ares Ares Post Master Supreme Registered: 04/01/02 Posts: 94761 Loc: Atlanta Ga	you should feel it in your chest the whole way through. not something I generally share, but I sometimes find myself "practicing" the bench press in the shower, standing up, just trying to "isolate" the pec. I expect to feel that same contraction on the bench. _________________________ Ignore list: bigal, DM, FortCollins, cheesegoggles. Don't bother talking to me, I wont see it.
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#6562578 - 09/02/12 01:46 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
Impulsive Impulsive Post Master Supreme Registered: 11/28/99 Posts: 80860 Loc: Edmonton	I will add, you can't perpetually hit goals. Most of us gain quickly (everyone can), then struggle for a period. Mine was pure ignorance and genetics. Strong like bull, lummox. I do wonder why I bother and what the ceiling is. How many natural, lean lifters bench 300+? And if/when they do, how much more can they realistically add? Can they maybe get to 400? I've been at it for 15 years. I worked hard all 15, but didn't work smart. Not sure what else could have changed, but just keep at it. It's never as easy as people think. _________________________ 2020 Taycan Turbo
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#6562593 - 09/02/12 02:59 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Impulsive]
HX_Guy HX_Guy Please blame any typos on my executive assistant Post Master Supreme Registered: 02/06/01 Posts: 45792	I'm still in it for the looks, don't really have a goal of going higher and higher weight wise. If I looked good while benching 155lbs, that's all the weight I'd need. $\:D$ _________________________ 2015 Ferrari 458 Italia 2021 Tesla Model S 2019 Mercedes S560 Coupe 2022 GMC Sierra Denali Ultimate
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#6562737 - 09/02/12 10:41 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
HX_Guy HX_Guy Please blame any typos on my executive assistant Post Master Supreme Registered: 02/06/01 Posts: 45792	I didn't do jack shit athletically as a teen so you're right. On another note, my right shoulder is killing me today! _________________________ 2015 Ferrari 458 Italia 2021 Tesla Model S 2019 Mercedes S560 Coupe 2022 GMC Sierra Denali Ultimate
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#6563141 - 09/02/12 05:06 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
Artvandelay Artvandelay Unregistered	I don't lift for looks, it's a by-product. I lift for strength. No two people are identical but in order to grow big pecs you need to lift big weight (relative). You've seen great strength gains with SS but you may want to think about switching to an intermediate 5x5 and simply swapping the flat for incline bench. Dips, DB press, all that stuff are great but for truly big pecs you need big strength. Work incline for a couple months, swap back to flat. boom.
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#6563483 - 09/02/12 10:00 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
DieZel DieZel Post Master Supreme Registered: 07/16/06 Posts: 18220 Loc: 18th green	he's genetically disadvantaged... not being a dick, but it's pretty obvious... gonna HAVE TO WORK to get pecs to grow... some lucky fucks just have those armor plate looking chests... you sir are not one of them... i'm in the same boat though, so you can defintitely make improvements, but yeah you gotta lift some heavy ass weights in a mid rep range 6-10... i personally go 8-12 myself, but 6 reps will make muscle grow if you are progressively overloading it...
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#6563486 - 09/02/12 10:02 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: DieZel]
Silock Silock Post Master Supreme Registered: 01/23/00 Posts: 60326 Loc: Jayhawk Country	Any rep range between 3 and 15 will make a muscle grow.
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#6564015 - 09/03/12 10:03 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Silock]
DieZel DieZel Post Master Supreme Registered: 07/16/06 Posts: 18220 Loc: 18th green	Why not 1-2 then...? As long as you are progressively overloading it, it should be under enough stress to grow... I just recommend at least 6 from personal experience... He'll I went on the low end cause I RARELY do less than 8 reps... Last set I may only push out 6-7 on occassion...
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#6564817 - 09/03/12 09:44 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: DieZel]
Silock Silock Post Master Supreme Registered: 01/23/00 Posts: 60326 Loc: Jayhawk Country	1-2 reps haven't been shown to have statistically significant growth in studies. Reps over 15 haven't shown to be of greater benefit to growth than reps of 15 or less. I don't think there's enough stimulation in that range for some reason.
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#6564902 - 09/03/12 10:27 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Silock]
DieZel DieZel Post Master Supreme Registered: 07/16/06 Posts: 18220 Loc: 18th green	Well I'll stick in that middle range until I see studies that prove otherwise... I will throw in a set or 2 of high rep 15+ sets every now and again just to get that pump going...
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#6565121 - 09/04/12 01:55 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: DieZel]
Silock Silock Post Master Supreme Registered: 01/23/00 Posts: 60326 Loc: Jayhawk Country	There's nothing wrong with the middle range at all. Anywhere from 3-15 is fine.
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#6565272 - 09/04/12 08:14 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
137 137 Post Master Supreme Registered: 12/06/02 Posts: 41819 Loc: Newsomville, CA	all kinds of gains are possible Val. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiX9UcuQw4o&feature=share&list=UU4FhvdvgZU5CVbXi2uWgiZg _________________________ Wayne
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#6565318 - 09/04/12 08:45 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
137 137 Post Master Supreme Registered: 12/06/02 Posts: 41819 Loc: Newsomville, CA	Originally Posted By: OB1 Those guys are the definition of meat head. I made it about 20secs. I'd rather listen to them than read you and art going back and forth about your height and who's bigger. They're meatheads but their results speak for themselves. I actually just went through their videos from 6 months ago and till now where you can see them drop from 25% body fat to 5.6% while making. AAAALLL KINDS OF GAINS. But it's just advice OB1, you can do whatever the FUCK you wanna do $;\)$ _________________________ Wayne
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#6565443 - 09/04/12 09:41 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
DieZel DieZel Post Master Supreme Registered: 07/16/06 Posts: 18220 Loc: 18th green	I'm guessing that's a TMW vid... Those guys are entertaining but typically they flip flop their advice every couple of months... They are the definition of "bros"...
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#6593027 - 09/17/12 08:57 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: HX_Guy]
HX_Guy HX_Guy Please blame any typos on my executive assistant Post Master Supreme Registered: 02/06/01 Posts: 45792	Took some updated photos this morning since I'm moving on from Starting Strength, wanted to have a new baseline... Weight was 173.0 this morning, very similar to last time I look pics which was 07/09/12 at 172.5 lbs. however noticeably higher than on 05/09 when I was 166.6lbs, and you can tell in the picture. My wife actually says I look better now, that I was too "scrawny" in the left picture so there's that. May 09, 2012 (166.6lbs) vs September 17, 2012 (173.0lbs) My arms look decently sort-of-big in the picture, I don't feel like that when I look in the mirror though...maybe it's the angle of the camera. _________________________ 2015 Ferrari 458 Italia 2021 Tesla Model S 2019 Mercedes S560 Coupe 2022 GMC Sierra Denali Ultimate
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#6593188 - 09/17/12 10:08 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: HX_Guy]
Ares Ares Post Master Supreme Registered: 04/01/02 Posts: 94761 Loc: Atlanta Ga	you have a very odd physique lol but keep at it, and it can only improve I presume. _________________________ Ignore list: bigal, DM, FortCollins, cheesegoggles. Don't bother talking to me, I wont see it.
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#6593227 - 09/17/12 10:30 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Ares]
HX_Guy HX_Guy Please blame any typos on my executive assistant Post Master Supreme Registered: 02/06/01 Posts: 45792	Why odd? _________________________ 2015 Ferrari 458 Italia 2021 Tesla Model S 2019 Mercedes S560 Coupe 2022 GMC Sierra Denali Ultimate
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#6593312 - 09/17/12 11:25 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: HX_Guy]
gamby gamby Post Master Supreme Registered: 11/01/99 Posts: 40865 Loc: RI	At this point I think it only comes down to the lack of chest mass. More of an overall "V" taper in your upper body will help, too. I'm sure you're acutely aware of both of these things and I'm not out to diss you. Your chest HAS to come around at some point if you're working on it enough. I have no idea what it's gonna take, though. Your arms are looking great (no homo). _________________________ ___________________________________ gamby still have an EM1--go figure
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#6593825 - 09/18/12 09:32 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: HX_Guy]
Ares Ares Post Master Supreme Registered: 04/01/02 Posts: 94761 Loc: Atlanta Ga	Originally Posted By: HX_Guy Why odd? its as if you are missing pecs, your boobs are sad or something. _________________________ Ignore list: bigal, DM, FortCollins, cheesegoggles. Don't bother talking to me, I wont see it.
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#6595952 - 09/19/12 05:09 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Ares]
137 137 Post Master Supreme Registered: 12/06/02 Posts: 41819 Loc: Newsomville, CA	Originally Posted By: Aretard Originally Posted By: HX_Guy Why odd? its as if you are missing pecs, your boobs are sad or something. Do pushups until you want to die val, then supplement that with ring dips lol. I'm just kidding btw. _________________________ Wayne
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#6596816 - 09/19/12 12:08 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Ares]
1st-hybrid 1st-hybrid Major Member Registered: 09/07/01 Posts: 1289 Loc: Ri,USA	Originally Posted By: Aretard Originally Posted By: HX_Guy Why odd? its as if you are missing pecs, your boobs are sad or something. I see what you're saying. OP how often do you do decline work? It looks like you need to isolate the pecs a bit more and add more exercises/weight to up the volume if that makes any sense. Forgive me I didn't read through the entire thread so not too familiar with you're overall routine/diet. The before and afters look pretty good, just keep in mind as an ectomorph your gains will be harder, low rep/high intensity is key for you. _________________________ 09 Silverado 2500HD CC LTZ Duramax 4" Diamond Eye SS Exhaust, tuned with EFI. 09 Mercedes C300 4matic
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#6597244 - 09/19/12 01:49 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: 1st-hybrid]
DieZel DieZel Post Master Supreme Registered: 07/16/06 Posts: 18220 Loc: 18th green	He doesn't need "low rep"... And you can isolate the pecs plenty if you use proper form on the flat bench...
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#6597252 - 09/19/12 01:52 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: DieZel]
HX_Guy HX_Guy Please blame any typos on my executive assistant Post Master Supreme Registered: 02/06/01 Posts: 45792	Yo DieZel I sent you a PM a couple days ago, did you get it _________________________ 2015 Ferrari 458 Italia 2021 Tesla Model S 2019 Mercedes S560 Coupe 2022 GMC Sierra Denali Ultimate
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#6597322 - 09/19/12 02:15 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: DieZel]
1st-hybrid 1st-hybrid Major Member Registered: 09/07/01 Posts: 1289 Loc: Ri,USA	Originally Posted By: DieZel He doesn't need "low rep"... And you can isolate the pecs plenty if you use proper form on the flat bench... I would tend to disagree, and I'm merely talking about his pecs. I read enough to know he just wants to look good, not get huge. He has nearly no volume in the lower pecs, no matter how good your form is on a flat bench I don't feel it stimulates the lower portion of the pecs nearly as well as decline. Not to mention you are putting more on your pecs and less on stabilizing muscle groups to assist with the lift. If he incorporates this into his routine and uses a good blend of weight/reps he should see some growth. If nothing else he is hitting the muscle group differently and creating new challenges for the his muscle fibers which is a fundamental part of any routine. _________________________ 09 Silverado 2500HD CC LTZ Duramax 4" Diamond Eye SS Exhaust, tuned with EFI. 09 Mercedes C300 4matic
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#6597376 - 09/19/12 02:30 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: 1st-hybrid]
Silock Silock Post Master Supreme Registered: 01/23/00 Posts: 60326 Loc: Jayhawk Country	I agree with doing decline, but for different reasons. IMO, Val should switch to something like the 5-3-1, and do decline bench for his accessory work on Military Press and Bench days.
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#6597454 - 09/19/12 02:50 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Silock]
HX_Guy HX_Guy Please blame any typos on my executive assistant Post Master Supreme Registered: 02/06/01 Posts: 45792	Drew, that's actually what I'm working on switching over to. Corey sent me an email with a bunch of stuff on 5-3-1 including a book on the whole program. It seems pretty straight forward in concept but I have to sit down and figure out all the starting weights and the increments to increase at plus what accessory work I should be doing, I'm going to need some help here and someone to tell me "Do this on this day and this on this day"...I hate the figuring out part, that's why Starting Strength was good for me...I don't want freedom to make choices. $\:D$ _________________________ 2015 Ferrari 458 Italia 2021 Tesla Model S 2019 Mercedes S560 Coupe 2022 GMC Sierra Denali Ultimate
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#6597701 - 09/19/12 04:36 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: HX_Guy]
Ares Ares Post Master Supreme Registered: 04/01/02 Posts: 94761 Loc: Atlanta Ga	squats, bench, shoulder press, dead lift... over and over with the heaviest weight you can pick up off the ground. _________________________ Ignore list: bigal, DM, FortCollins, cheesegoggles. Don't bother talking to me, I wont see it.
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#6597726 - 09/19/12 04:55 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Ares]
HX_Guy HX_Guy Please blame any typos on my executive assistant Post Master Supreme Registered: 02/06/01 Posts: 45792	Well I got that part...but what about the accessory exercises? The book on 5-3-1 has a crapload of different stuff...which ones should I do, on what days, and how many reps. _________________________ 2015 Ferrari 458 Italia 2021 Tesla Model S 2019 Mercedes S560 Coupe 2022 GMC Sierra Denali Ultimate
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