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#6559407 - 08/30/12 11:31 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Silock]
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Take steroids, do bench, get chesticles...
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#6559473 - 08/31/12 12:33 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Silock]
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 Originally Posted By: Silock
I put my ring finger on the rings.


That's what I was told to do way BITD and always did as a result.
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#6559535 - 08/31/12 02:23 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Silock]
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 Originally Posted By: Silock
I put my ring pinkly on the rings.

Fixed for me, but that's only a 1/2" dif between pinkies and ringe fingers.
Val, you are a bit close if your 2" narrower than that.

What angle are your elbows. I've heard your body should look like an arrow. I.e. elbows at about 45 deg from body as you bring the weight down and lower.

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#6559540 - 08/31/12 03:01 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: DieZel]
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 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Take steroids, do bench, get chesticles...


Said none truer! lol

And Andrew, I was suggesting to get the basics of using your chest down doing regular ass push ups rather than trying to pile 10 more lbs every week and trying to tell your body (now lift this with your chest only) you do something enough your body adapts to it. not everyone is going to activate their chest primarily on a bench.

Val is exercising for cosmetic purposes not to be strong. You want to fill that chest out do push ups, of course you want to do regular lifting incorporated with that but that endurance you mentioned is what will net you a few more reps so you're not pissing away sets due to lack of.

Doing a shitload of push ups has helped my bench capacity. Val is small and really has nothing to work with unlike everyone else giving him advice I think push ups like I mentioned would do wonders for him. Tom Hardy got as big as he is with just push ups and and kickboxing training.

edit : watched the video you posted... that's pretty much how people should be benching. that small correction has also helped immensely with my handstand push ups.


Edited by 137 (08/31/12 03:05 AM)
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#6559541 - 08/31/12 03:12 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: 137]
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 Originally Posted By: 137
not everyone is going to activate their chest primarily on a bench.


I agree. That's why I said he should google some chest activation exercises, as well.

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Val is exercising for cosmetic purposes not to be strong. You want to fill that chest out do push ups, of course you want to do regular lifting incorporated with that but that endurance you mentioned is what will net you a few more reps so you're not pissing away sets due to lack of.


I guess I'm more of the opinion that strong = cosmetic. Heavy lifting just looks the best, especially when combined with low body fat.

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Tom Hardy got as big as he is with just push ups and and kickboxing training.


He didn't build that body without 'roids and a ton of weight training. There's just no way.

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#6559562 - 08/31/12 05:34 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Silock]
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 Originally Posted By: Silock

He didn't build that body without 'roids and a ton of weight training. There's just no way.


LOLOLOLOL!!!! HATERAID!!!
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#6559569 - 08/31/12 05:57 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: 137]
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Fitness advice from 137? Lolz
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#6559581 - 08/31/12 06:20 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: Artvandelay
Fitness advice from 137? Lolz


Any kind of advice from ART... LOL!!!
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#6559614 - 08/31/12 07:17 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: 137]
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 Originally Posted By: 137
 Originally Posted By: Silock

He didn't build that body without 'roids and a ton of weight training. There's just no way.


LOLOLOLOL!!!! HATERAID!!!


Trutheraid!

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#6559616 - 08/31/12 07:18 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: OB1
Why nothing on dips or decline, Drew?
What about them? They're great.

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#6559723 - 08/31/12 08:21 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
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just stay away from the gimicky machines for dips bodyweight dips are ideal. I find it hard to get in the same position you would through natual dips on the various machines. Except the one knee rest that goes up and down.
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#6559810 - 08/31/12 09:07 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
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i had to google that tony guy.

youre delusional if you think hes natural. sorry trap thickness like that = not natural
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#6559858 - 08/31/12 09:26 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
i had to google that tony guy.

youre delusional if you think hes natural. sorry trap thickness like that = not natural


here is his workout for bronson
http://youtu.be/VJ0lHEd9Eyg

and he was doing that on top of everything included for warrior.

http://youtu.be/uKfqrzovecQ


Edited by 137 (08/31/12 09:33 AM)
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#6559892 - 08/31/12 09:43 AM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
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It's the same as Chris Evans, he put on about 30lbs for captain america on top of already being in awesome shape, and you can tell he wasn't as big when he did avengers. Hardy is probably right back at 165-170 now!

Edited by 137 (08/31/12 09:44 AM)
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#6560298 - 08/31/12 12:24 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: OB1
What am I missing? This doesn't look steroid-ish.



I always assume these guys are on steroids...

why? because why not... They have the means, and they are typically asked to be in amazing shape in relatively short amounts of time under heavy time constraints.

Thinking of 300, they had a few months to get ripped out of their minds. Sorry, but too many people in that crossfit gym not looking like sparta for me not to be a little skeptical.

Not that I care... I take a firm stance that anyone who can take steroids and come out looking like hardy, evans, jackman, ect; should damn well be juicing up if they are so inclined.

Many may fault me for wasting my time with it, and Im not disagreeing. But if you can make it work lol, hells yeah.
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#6560648 - 08/31/12 03:02 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Ares]
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Look at his pics of him as Bane. Dude was seriously on the sauce.
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#6560702 - 08/31/12 03:15 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Ares]
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I dunno. If it's your actual job to get ripped for a role and you're in a gym with a world class trainer for 3+ hours a day, I'm thinking major gains can be made over the course of 6 weeks
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#6560705 - 08/31/12 03:16 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Silock]
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Hollywood guys always talk about the "worked out hard for 3 months for this role" and yet they are totally transformed from normal. That doesn't just happen naturally. If they pay for lipo, plastic surgery, implants etc., they'll take drugs too.

I mean, how many guys here eat well, lift hard, do cardio, do crossfit and have done this for a long time - yet still don't look anything like movie "buff".
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#6560731 - 08/31/12 03:24 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: gamby]
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 Originally Posted By: g@mby
I dunno. If it's your actual job to get ripped for a role and you're in a gym with a world class trainer for 3+ hours a day, I'm thinking major gains can be made over the course of 6 weeks


Muscles take time to grow. It happens outside the gym; not in it. However, steroids greatly increase the growth rate.

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#6560806 - 08/31/12 03:52 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Impulsive]
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 Originally Posted By: Impetuous
I mean, how many guys here eat well, lift hard, do cardio, do crossfit and have done this for a long time - yet still don't look anything like movie "buff".


I'm sure if I knew about im when I was doing my 2 month cut instead of eating 2000 cals a day throughout it and controlling my insulin this would've been a greater yield.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/412392_10150565313225740_967472315_o.jpg

people think that you take steroids and it tells your brain to make your body huge, it just allows quicker recovery, you still have to do the work. weather he's on the sauce or not is debatable. I think it's believable for anyone to shift 30 pounds in 2 months time. I did it so someone who gets to live in a gym daily for 2 months I don't see how it's not possible.

Kid at my gym weak as shit works at the gym now, kids lifts have soared past mine, too bad he's asian so he'll never see the muscle tone and he eats like shit and he's also packed on 20lbs eating wahoo's every damn day. But I'm sure on that dudes diet of chicken, brocolli, and protein shakes anything is possible.

Look at Corey's transformation, he did in 6 months what would take someone 2 years. Body starts in the kitchen followed by the gym.
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#6560824 - 08/31/12 03:56 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: 137]
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I think most would be hindering themselves spending 3 hours a day in the gym daily. Presuming he isn't fucking around.

But with steroids maybe he could accelerate recovery to capture that
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#6560881 - 08/31/12 04:26 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: 137]
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 Originally Posted By: 137

Look at Corey's transformation, he did in 6 months what would take someone 2 years. Body starts in the kitchen followed by the gym.


He had been there and had the muscle before. He wasn't starting from average non-workout guy. He was a former weightlifter who ate too much and re-dedicated himself.

At any rate, people like to say steroids don't make you big without work - no shit, but almost everyone who is huge is on them. There is some myth out out there that people can just get huge and buff by working out harder/more. The biggest guys on this site are far from even a typical Hollywood or WWE "big" look.
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#6560897 - 08/31/12 04:34 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: 137]
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 Originally Posted By: 137

Look at Corey's transformation, he did in 6 months what would take someone 2 years. Body starts in the kitchen followed by the gym.


Tom Hardy is WAY bigger than Diezel.

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#6560946 - 08/31/12 04:57 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: gamby]
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 Originally Posted By: g@mby
I dunno. If it's your actual job to get ripped for a role and you're in a gym with a world class trainer for 3+ hours a day, I'm thinking major gains can be made over the course of 6 weeks


Clueless...? Hi I'm Cory...

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#6560963 - 08/31/12 05:09 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: DieZel]
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Hardy is 5'10"... Don't know his weight but from the pics I've seen he doesn't look to be more than 210 or so...

Cameras can make people look larger or smaller too... All those guys are on the sauce though if they go from 170-200+ in a few months...

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#6560983 - 08/31/12 05:28 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Impulsive]
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The biggest guys on this site are far from even a typical Hollywood or WWE "big" look.


If you put me next to some of these guys, or like ripped 80's stallone, I'd look like I was andre the fucking giant.

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#6561002 - 08/31/12 05:41 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
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You'd look taller, but he's one of the shortest "action" stars and he's still a juicing machine.
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#6561032 - 08/31/12 05:56 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: DieZel]
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 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Hardy is 5'10"... Don't know his weight but from the pics I've seen he doesn't look to be more than 210 or so...

Cameras can make people look larger or smaller too... All those guys are on the sauce though if they go from 170-200+ in a few months...


Sorry Val we have de-railed... lol Hardy sits at 165 and bulked up to 185 for fighter he put the 30lbs on for dark knight rises and was sitting at 210, and while he still looked muscular, it was more lighting and special effects because he was pretty soft too and all of his tattoo's were digitally removed.
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#6561034 - 08/31/12 05:57 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: Impulsive]
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 Originally Posted By: Impetuous
You'd look taller, but he's one of the shortest "action" stars and he's still a juicing machine.


I'm just saying. A lot of these guys are small as fuck.


I used to have a picture of me and the rock, I was taller and honestly, probably bigger.

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#6561035 - 08/31/12 05:58 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: OB1
And he'd tear Art apart with 1 arm and 1 leg.
you gonna keep barking little doggie or are you gonna bite?



Let's be honest, I could pick you up by your face and throw you across a room. I have no doubt that I could lift you up single arm by your face.

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#6561036 - 08/31/12 06:00 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygQvB6OjHOU

kinda like that, except, without the camera angle tricks to make stallone look like he's only 6 inches shorter than drago. lolz

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#6561043 - 08/31/12 06:04 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
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my girl is waaaaaaay hotter than your mexi-cunt.


You don't think I'm pretty?! oh no! I don't give a fuck, little guy. lol oh you ugly!


You're a fucking midget who lives on a message forum. Self-proclaimed or not I could crush you into a fine fucking powder without putting my beer down.

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#6561057 - 08/31/12 06:13 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
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It's funny you say that, you've said it before. If anything, I have a gigantic dome piece, not like it's a good thing or anything. It's just you're reaching for something. You talk a lot of shit on the internet, you basically live on this forum just projecting your shitty traveling salesman texas life onto everyone, screaming and grasping at anything you can to try an appear superior. It's so so see through bro. You have a gigantic head and disproportional body because you're a midget, just like your kids are midgets.


It's hilarious that you talk so much shit to me over the internet. You wouldn't say a god damn thing to my face, and even if you worked up the nerve to, you'd need a god damn ladder to do it.



My whole point in this thread, like justins, was that it's fucking easy to look at a picture of a person next to normal objects, their proportions, and judge height +/- a few inches. Which is why you're so upset, I know, I know "1000 dollars" and you'll do it. You won't because you sit on a phonebook to see over the steering wheel.

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#6561063 - 08/31/12 06:17 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
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#6561070 - 08/31/12 06:23 PM Re: Four weeks progress... [Re: ]
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you talk shit to someone three times your size over the internet. Congrats. You must feel pretty tough.
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