Didnt know B18c5s could do 200+ whp with bolt ons.Impressive.

That rsx always seems like it's faster than it should be.. what's it trap?

125 on the forums. 102 in real life.

but really...the maths say an eg with that set up should pull the rsx...imo

that is not very realistic, probably a high reading dyno. They dyno like 162-165 bone stock. To make 200whp you'd think it would take more than tuning and breathing mods.
As awesome as the dc2 itr was, it used to get spanked against rsx's with hondata and race headers. I'd seen it countless times. The outcome in the vid is not far fetched at all.

dude stole the hit bad in the first race

Here's a direct quote from the tuner about the dyno used.

"In fact most chassis dynos measure flywheel hp and calculate wheel...how come you can do a pull in 3rd gear or 4th gear and basically they measure the same

This is "comparison mode" which is Dyno Dynamics method of equating to Dynojet numbers...it says flywheel on the graphs (just like dynapack) but every car I have had report to me about going on a local Dynojet the numbers have been within 1-2% as far as I have been told"

and here is the thread. http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2974988

How come you didnt quote this: "It's an excellent tune and I'm sure the car works great but do people really think for a second that it's putting down an actual 208.6 whp to the ground?"
Anyway, he's going to Etown on Wednesday so we can keep an eye on what he's going to run, should be a nice night. I'm guessing around 14.1-14.2@97-98mph on street tires. To me this is more like a 185whp hatch.

Genius, you quoted the first part of his post, but not the last.
Anyway, blah blah blah...this is not a 200whp hatch. k thanx bye.

theres no way that hatch is putting down 208 whp imho... with that kind of weight advantage it wouldve been gone.

Lol at anyone here knowing what the hatch or rsx weighed that night

To add to the "debate"...

Unless something is seriously wrong with either motor, the k20 would also have a much fatter power band due not only to more displacement, but also b/c of i-vtAk. Peak power ain't everything.

To add to the "debate"...

Unless something is seriously wrong with either motor, the k20 would also have a much fatter power band due not only to more displacement, but also b/c of i-vtAk. Peak power ain't everything.

200whp is a cakewalk ...but that hatch isnt putting that down unless that rsx is a custom convertible.

*your experience isnt exactly a prime example of what you can do *
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[quote=cliff st-clair]Genius, you quoted the first part of his post, but not the last.
Anyway, blah blah blah...this is not a 200whp hatch. k thanx bye.

Yeah haven't been to yonkers since the civic days. But the 350 does not race, well...not for the time being anyway.

JDM 98 Spec ITR
65mm T/B
Hy-tec replica header 2.5" collector(heat wrapped)
2.5" Exhaust piping straight to Apex'i WS muffler
short ram intake/ K&N filter
440cc injectors
Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
Tuned on Hondata S300 93 octane
202.26HP/136.77TQ

o_O

Wait a minute...Why would you want shift when the result is going to be not only less HP, but less torque multiplication (higher gear) as well??

If revving higher nets you more power, you do it, lol. THAT's the "fatter part of the power band". It doesn't matter if you're "barely making more power" -- hell, you want to hold the gear with the better torque multiplier until some point PAST peak power, but NEVER before, lol. You only shift when the power dies off by more than the torque multiplier is gaining you, which is going to be different for different cars depending on how rapidly power dies off.

one thing that ive seen about low displacement 200whp motors is that for the most part when they break 200 SAE wheel hp they generally do it briefly at very high rpm, 7k+ and if you don't have the tranny or shifting correct you can fall out of your powerband very easily.